Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[greatgnu]

Bella Lena

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[znavko]

Vivi, Dina, Meela, Sally, Polina, Bela, Leya

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[greatgnu]

Trixself :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[strypey]

Irony? Self-deprecating humour?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[lourivellini]

>I'm a "white heterosexual middle-class man" (yuck!). I'm definitely no  
female supremacist. And I don't like the idea of anybody's "supremacy" over  
anybody else. Be it of any kind.


You mind explaining the (yuck!) that you included after listing what you are?  
 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[nospam]

I think jxself is a god. We should have named it after him!

:)

Aiming to have had the subsequent Trisquel based on Bionic Beaver is, I  
sense, at the same time both over-ambitious and underambitious.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jason]

Trisquel 9 now has a name!!!

https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-90-development-plans

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[legimet . calc]

Female supremacy? Lol, I don't think Fil is the "SJW" here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[davesamcdxv]

It should be a "searchable" name (that is, a name that doesn't have many  
results on search engines, so we can "take it over." For example: Searching  
for Flidas has Trisquel in the top results.Just a (not-too-thoroughly though  
out, I have to say) thought but surely searching for a name we can "take  
over" won't help (since that means anyone searching for Flidas now is  
probably looking for Trisquel anyway and would just type "Trisquel Flidas"  
without being in the slightest deterred", whereas going for a name that's  
"taken over" on e.g. Google (i.e. has a lot of people searching for it  
already) would instead expose Trisquel to people who otherwise would've had  
no chance of encountering it?


tl;dr: wouldn't actively going for a name not taken over by anything be a bit  
of a preaching to the choir thing not exposing more people to Trisquel?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[leoo]

Congratulations on suggesting the name that got picked!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[strypey]

Hey onpon, it's good of you to say this, and I'm happy to be part of a  
community where we value being friendly and welcoming, and where it's ok and  
earns respect to admit when things go wrong. Respect.


For the record, I sympathize with the point you were making. As you know, I'm  
pretty good as laying on the rhetorical flushes myself, but in hindsight, I  
think just stating the facts about the genders of past names would have made  
your point for you. I didn't know many of the past names were female, and it  
was good to find out. Thanks to you for sharing the knowledge, and to Fil for  
making the comment that allowed the knowledge to be shared :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[onpon4]

I see I haven't been very diplomatic with my posts. To all involved parties,  
I apologize, and I'll try to do better next time.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[svenerik_vn]

When a person proposes a name, that person is "categorically opposed" to  
every other proposal?


What Fit did was proposing an entire group of names, hence he was "opposed  
to" all the other groups, which is a natural biproduct of proposing things.


What you did was attacking his proposal and questioning his intentions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[fil . bergamo]

I now see I could've done a mistake in the first place, by posting what was  
meant to be a naive and peaceful comment.


It's now evident to me that my initial wording wasn't perfectly chosen to  
reflect the naive intent of my comment.


>You just said that it "should" be female, which implies that it "should" not  
be male, i.e. that you are categorically opposed to all male name  
suggestions.


I'm not a native english speaker, but you seem to be, so I guess your  
exegesis of my words is to be considered accurate.

If that's the case, I must make ammends for messing up with words:
I am not opposed to giving Trisuel 9 a male name.
I'm totally ok with male names.

Furthermore, I'd like to assure you and everybody else that I did not want to  
start any "sex equality" quarrel, and the intent behind my original post had  
nothing to do with that.
If my words did suggest such a scenario, then *it's my own fault* and I'm  
sorry about all the noise.


I also want to make clear that I have no agenda to be pushed on this forum.

>A word of advice: ()
Got it.
I'd give you mine, If I may... most of the times, harsh quarrels can be  
avoided by giving others the "benefit of the doubt", instead of blindly  
pinning names on them before they have the opportunity to clarify their  
intentions..


That said, I have no acrimony on you personally. I think we just took an  
unfortunate path of misunderstanding.


Peace.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[onpon4]

This is what you said:

> I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should definitely be a  
*female* name.

>
> That would be a small but significant sign of not following the dominant  
patriarchy in technology (and in society in general).


You offered no suggestion for a name to use. You just said that it "should"  
be female, which implies that it "should" not be male, i.e. that you are  
categorically opposed to all male name suggestions. This is a female  
supremacist attitude, and your justification for this is the vague  
"patriarchy", the typical female supremacist excuse. You being male has no  
bearing on whether or not what you are championing is female supremacy.


> I just dropped down my own two cents, simply put. I have no intention to  
turn this thread into any discussion of any kind


In other words, you're willing to spread propaganda to support your bigoted  
ideology where it doesn't belong, but you aren't willing to actually defend  
it in a discussion.


A word of advice: if you aren't willing to follow up on something, such as by  
answering to the fact that Trisquel has exactly equal representation of the  
sexes as of Trisquel 8 and therefore doesn't fit into your "patriarchy"  
narrative, don't post it in the first place.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[fil . bergamo]

First of all, I didn't mean to hurt anybody's feelings with my simple and  
humble suggestion. I'm sorry if I did hurt yours.


>I was "shooting down" a female supremacist trying to inject female supremacy  
where it doesn't belong.


For the sake of clarity:
I'm a "white heterosexual middle-class man" (yuck!). I'm definitely no female  
supremacist. And I don't like the idea of anybody's "supremacy" over anybody  
else. Be it of any kind.


>Furthermore, it is you and Fil who are categorically shooting down every  
possible male name


I think you're mistaking me for somebody else. I wrote nothing about other  
people's suggestions nor did I "shoot down" any name.
I just dropped down my own two cents, simply put. I have no intention to turn  
this thread into any discussion of any kind, other that its original purpose.


Again.. I said mine. Nothing more.
You did all the rest.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[calmstorm]

Didn't even think female supremacists existed...  Although that in hindsight  
might have been a silly thing for me to think.


Abandinus isn't a bad name, as long as people get the inside joke. heh..

But meh...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

Agostinho Neto

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[trisquel]

If we were to go with Neto, the pronounciation could be "neat-o" ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[lucaguidetti]

This once I would like a name that ends with a vowel, such as Secuana or  
Habrena. Anyway, both are gods associated with rivers; this is suitable for  
the new version: if Ubuntu 18.04 is a beaver, we can give him a place to live  
in freedom. ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[msuzuqi]

Oh, this thread might get a record posts. There was a problem. Thanks. 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[leoo]

A few recommendations:

Telesphorus.  The name (via false cognates) suggests telecommunications and  
light, which in this age of the internet, fiber optics, and glowing screens,  
fits computers well.  The name apparently actually means "accomplisher" or  
"bringer of completion" which would be fitting once the distro is released.   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telesphorus_(mythology)


Neto.  Easy to say and pronounce.  Worshipped by ancient Celts in the Iberian  
peninsula, which fits Trisquel's origins as being targeted to  
Celtic-descended people in a region of Spain.  Downside for some is that this  
was a god of war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neto_(deity)


Ériu. Old name for Éire, the patron goddess of pre Christian Ireland.  Its  
appeal to the Irish and their diaspora could be seen as a feature (since the  
Irish are the largest Celtic group worldwide) but also a bug, obscuring  
Trisquel's Galician origins.


Llŷr. Has a very Celtic feel without being too difficult to spell.  Too  
specifically Welsh-sounding?


Clíona (a more accessible spelling of Clíodhna).  A pleasant ring to the  
name, with some pleasant aspects to the myth, such as being a goddess of love  
and beauty.  Downside: some beliefs about her were of her as a banshee, a  
wailing mourner of the dead.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cl%C3%ADodhna.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[leoo]

Perhaps this list would be useful:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Celtic_deities

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[intheforest]

I vote for Druid :)
it makes me remember Asterix stories. Druids are old and kind men  
creating magic somewhere in the village or forest to give a power for ones,  
who want to defend the freedom of brave people living in Gaul.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[David Philipe Gil]

I actually think Triquel may be able to ride popularity of Legend of Zelda with 
a name like Epona.


​​

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐

On March 31, 2018 4:57 PM,  wrote:

> ​​
> 
> You will never get any reference to trisquel if you enter "epona" into your
> 
> search engine, since it will always show results about the horse from "the
> 
> legend of zelda".

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[msuzuqi]

Now, now. What about lining up with the gods' name here? One post per one  
god. Then the author decides time limit. Then an user votes for her favorite.  
No trouble, no disorder, no chaos, if there is no problem.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jamathis]

Creidhne.  The god of metalworkers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creidhne

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[onpon4]

I was "shooting down" a female supremacist trying to inject female supremacy  
where it doesn't belong.


This thread is not about changing Trisquel's naming system. Trisquel already  
*has* a naming system which includes both male *and* female names, and  
incidentally, it has exactly equal representation of male and female names as  
of Trisquel 8.


Furthermore, it is you and Fil who are categorically shooting down every  
possible male name that could be on the table, including the "Abandinus"  
suggestion above that multiple people (myself included) like. So your "please  
do not shoot down suggestions" response is hypocritical.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[7en]

I like funny names that aren't ridiculous per se.
Great one

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[svenerik_vn]

For the record: I agree with Fil

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[svenerik_vn]

Please do not shoot down other people's suggestions and rant about why they  
are bad.


Do instead suggest something yourself.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[7en]

I whole-heartedly agree.
There is a set naming scheme for Trisquel releases, we should go with that as  
it stands and there is not reason to introduce any arbitrary rules.


It doesn't matter if the release code names are of male *or* female god*esses  
or one that's unisex, for lack of a better word, because that's not the  
*point*.
The argument is akin to discussing whether a release milestone should be  
named after a small or large clothing size, or it being a one-size-fits-all  
release name.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

I think software should always be female. Like ships.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[calmstorm]

Also in goldeneye. ;)

meh...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[onpon4]

That's what makes it such a great name, though! :) It's a nice little in-joke  
about all the drama and speculation about Trisquel being... abandoned. ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[onpon4]

"Patriarchy in technology". Rght.

In case my sarcasm doesn't show through clearly enough, please do *not* turn  
Trisquel into an SJW "muh womens representation" distro. "Female" is not a  
part of Trisquel's naming scheme; Trisquel releases are named after Celtic  
gods, either male *or* female. In fact, take a look at the past names: five  
of them are female, five of them are male, and one of them is unisex. Maybe  
actually look into what the distro is doing before shouting "patriarchy" and  
trying to inject your identity politics where they don't belong.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[fil . bergamo]

>What about Miss Heyjoe?

I'm  may be missing something, but I don't get it..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[greatgnu]

>maybe this time our beloved voting system can come in handy for once and be  
used for ... well, for voting.


+1 was just given to Abandinus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[msuzuqi]

I win this election.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[svenerik_vn]

Definitively! I vote for Miss Heyjoe

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[no-email]

Trisquel 9 -> Lugus

>I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should definitely be a  
*female* name.

Flidas is a female figure in Irish Mythology

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[msuzuqi]

What about Miss Heyjoe?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[fil . bergamo]

My two cents:

I don't have a particular preference, but I think it should definitely be a  
*female* name.


That would be a small but significant sign of not following the dominant  
patriarchy in technology (and in society in general).


Happy hacking!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[msuzuqi]

>voting system can come in handy for once and be used for ...

I have thought that too! I vote for that your idea +1. But I suppose too  
strict is fragile. Sometimes it needs play. Anyway, It was surprised a bit,  
"is he satori"?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[shiretoko]

I think just listing names won't do so much good here, we will just get a  
copy of the wikipedia list in the end...
maybe this time our beloved voting system can come in handy for once and be  
used for ... well, for voting.


So, I personally like the name "Convetina".

If you're also in favor of convetina, then please VOTE UP :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[pinmaritim]

Seahorse, sea horse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seahorse

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[pablo96es]

I like Convetina the godess of water 

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jason]

"Is there any reason why it cannot be simply "Trisquel 9", "Trisquel9",  
"TrisquelNine" etc?:)"


Yes: It does not follow the tradition to name releases after Celtic gods.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[ivan . baldinotti]

I vote for "Artur" without the h.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

Maybe we should name them after kings? Reminds me of Ananda Mahidol.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

Callahan:"These free libre distros are like assholes -- everybody has one."

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

It is called Trisquel 9, but it has a code name. having code names is  
long-standing practice in computer software development.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[ivan . baldinotti]

What about "Anand"?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[svenerik_vn]

> I don't suppose it "needs" to be anything right?

Fantastic!:) I love openness and fluidity! :D

I have limited/none programming skills/knowledge and I have never been part  
of any software project. Bear that in mind when I'm asking following  
question:


Is there any reason why it cannot be simply "Trisquel 9", "Trisquel9",  
"TrisquelNine" etc?:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[greatgnu]

What about Callahan, god of .44 Magnum?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[ivan . baldinotti]

What about Morrigan, goddess of War?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jodiendo]

jxself

"Why does it need to be a Celtic god?"
why not catholic, orthodox, Arabic names, Hebrew, Asian, mundane or biblical  
names?


in the other hand as names?
here is my list
 -priscal
s. m. Lugar en el campo donde se recogen los ganados por la noche

Cristal
glass of fine quality and a high degree of brilliance

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jason]

"Why does it need to be a Celtic god?"

I don't suppose it "needs" to be anything right? But to follow with  
tradition. You may as well ask why does Debian need to be named after Toy  
Story characters or why Ubuntu needs an adjective+animal combination. Or why  
any particular distro needs to be named in any particular way. Because  
someone, somewhere, made that decision. And this naming system is what  
Trisquel is using. Any naming system will be arbitrary so let's enjoy ours  
and get back to our regularly scheduled progrmaming and try to come up with  
names for Trisquel 9.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[shiretoko]

You will never get any reference to trisquel if you enter "epona" into your  
search engine, since it will always show results about the horse from "the  
legend of zelda".

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[svenerik_vn]

Why does it need to be a Celtic god?

Just wondering:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[greatgnu]

>Stop been a title molester..

ok :P

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[strypey]

Or what about Garmangabis?
"‘those  who  consider  the  bare  of  the  weaver’,  British  goddess   
of  fortune  that  is  revered  in Lancashire, northwest England. The Romans  
brought her to England."

http://www.sangreal.be/Downloads/Celtic_Gods.pdf

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[strypey]

What about Etiona?

"Etiona is a Celtic goddess worshipped in Gaul; she is known only from  
inscriptions in Etrechy, France, where she was accompanied by her fellow  
deities Carantana, Isosa, Gnatus, and Hidua ... The origin of Etiona’s name  
is unclear. I have seen it suggested that it derives from the Proto-Celtic  
*ett(n)jo or “kernel” and that this indicates that she is a goddess of  
wisdom (i.e. “kernel of knowledge”) but I wonder if it could equally well  
indicate a connection to agriculture or food stores."

https://hearthfirehandworks.com/about-the-gods/gaulish-and-brythonic-celtic-gods/etiona/

A name derived from an ancient word for kernel seems like a good GNU-Linux  
name, although it could also be a good name for a libre fork of the Linux  
kernel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[7en]

Camulus (Camulos, Camalos) is a god of war and sky.
Other terms that might be found are a German band (spelled Camulos) and a  
museum called Rancho Camulos. Those don't rank very high in the searches I  
made.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jodiendo]

supertamp83
oblītus m (feminine oblīta, neuter oblītum); first/second declension

forgotten
disregarded, neglected

Stop been a title molester..
lol

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jodiendo]

gnu-bori

awesome skull and flag! are you from the Island or raised in the USA,?

  About abandinus

Abandinus was a name used to refer to a Celtic god or male spirit worshipped  
in Godmanchester in Cambridgeshire during the Romano-Celtic period.


 Abandinus - "Defender of the Waters"

Known as ‘Defender of the Waters,’ not much is known of the Celtic god  
Abandinus, save for an inscription on a bronze votive found in  
Cambridgeshire, England which read “To the god Abandinus, Vatiaucus gave  
this from his own money.”



Diccionario de la lengua española © 2005 Espasa-Calpe:
abandonar conjugar ⇒

tr. Dejar, desamparar:
abandonar a un bebé.
Desistir, renunciar:
abandonar una idea. También intr.:
no abandones.
Dejar un lugar:
abandonar la casa.
prnl. Dejarse dominar por afectos, pasiones o vicios:
abandonarse a la bebida, a la suerte.
Descuidar los intereses, las obligaciones, el aseo personal o la  
compostura:

se ha abandonado mucho.
Rendirse ante las adversidades:
debe luchar contra su enfermedad y no abandonarse.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[strypey]

Janus is a cool god, but the same has already been used in tech:
https://janus.conf.meetecho.com/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[arod-gnu]

Abandinus ... the only issue that I see with this one is that in spanish it  
sound like "abandonado", left out. And we don't want to give the impression  
of Trisquel being abandon, left out  :-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[greatgnu]

+1 for Abandinus

I absolutely prefer Abandinus \o/

If I may add one: Oblitus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

Abandinus would be hilarious and future-proof if Ruben ever gets tired of  
pushing out new versions.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandinus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[arod-gnu]

Or ... what about a Roman god?  Janus, the god of gates, doors, and  
beginnings. The month of January was named after Janus, who had two  
faces​—one looking forward and the other looking backward, just like  
Trisquel (the distro) looking up for you. Just a thought friends!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[enduzzer]

Pritona

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[arod-gnu]

Samhain or Druid (ancient Celtic priesthood)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[khanhduongdv]

Lucubus/Lucubus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[julesverne]

Balor

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Needs A Name

[jason]

Oh, so as to avoid confusion it should also not re-use a name that's been  
used before or that might be confusingly similar. Past names are:


1.0: Arianrhod
2.0: Robur
3.0: Dwyn
3.5: Awen
4.0: Taranis
4.5: Slaine
5.0: Dagda
5.5: Brigantia
6.0: Toutatis
7.0: Belenos
8.0: Flidas