Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry
Blessings indeed, Judy. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 19, 2005 23:56 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] For Terry Judy, if speaking the Truth is love, then you deserve a crown of glory. Blessings to you and yours, Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy TaylorSent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:57 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry Terry, Thank you for your detailed response ... I would like to have an image that is pleasing to everyone and am truly sorry that I have missed the mark with this. I don't havemoney to show ppl love; and what I do have is constantly mocked and maligned. I never wanted to get into this back and forth volley of strife but I guess when we lay with the dogs we get up with fleas. I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give ismy time and love for God's Word. Actually I should - like Christine - be spending my time more wisely, especially at this time of year so I will follow her example and sign off for now. . Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season, judyt On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:56:34 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you could see the love you say you don't see in me - What would it look like? Can you describe it please? Does any person demonstrate it on TT? judyt If I could see it I could possibly describe it Judy, but I cannot see it. This concerns you so you obviously want to show people you love or care about them. The thing is, it just doesn't come through. I can see that you know your Bible. I can agree with much of what you post. I can see that you try to live a life pleasing to the Lord. The only thing missing is the love for others. Let me throw out a couple of possibilities for you to consider that might help. I am not suggesting that you stop being you. I am suggesting that you change your pattern a little to let others see the care you have in your heart. I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. (I seldom know what G or Bill is talking about, but I seldom comment on anything they say) Surprisingly, I think Bill cares about the people here, maybe as much as Dean does. I see John and Izzy at their best and at their worst. Both of them , I believe, make a decision to be kinder and more loving, but their button eventually gets pushed and they start replying as you do.I know personally of David Millers love. He offered me financial help that ,thank the Lord, I did not need at the time, but the offer was sincere. He wanted to help me. That makes it easy to love him, cause like Christ, he loved me first. Marlin wanted to help his neighbor a while back, so no need to question the love in his heart. The others on the list have probably not impressed me one way or the other. I choose to think the best of them.We all have a long way to go in this area, Judy. You are not in this boat by yourself. None of us has reached the other shore. I had to peek around my beam to write what I did. Please think about what I've said. I meant to help, even if the short term result is hurtful. I will be praying for you.Terry judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry
Terry wrote to Judy: I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. I have a very easy time seeing Judy as a very loving person. Others have expressed much grief over her posts, and much of the time I am somewhat surprised by such responses. Nevertheless, your advice here I think is very helpful if Judy will hear it. While I see a lot of love in Judy and her posts, she does have a tendency not to be able to hear the other side. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Many times in attempting to hear the other side, we ourselves lose a piece of truth that we should not. Many times Judy's posts have helped me from ignoring certain basic principles and truths in my effort to hear the other side. Therefore, what some might see as a defect or weakness, I see an aspect of strength in it. Perhaps love is not the right word choice in your comments to Judy concerning what she is lacking. Empathy is what you are really talking about. Love is concern and care for others. I think Judy has that. Empathy is the ability to understand and identify with another person's feelings or difficulties. There is perhaps some room for improvement in regards to this concerning theologians like Barth, Calvin, etc., or certain list members like John, Lance, Gary, Bill, etc. The question really is, should Judy be more empathic toward individuals such as these? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I ask you, David. Should Judy be more 'empathetic' toward these? - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 09:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry Terry wrote to Judy: I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. I have a very easy time seeing Judy as a very loving person. Others have expressed much grief over her posts, and much of the time I am somewhat surprised by such responses. Nevertheless, your advice here I think is very helpful if Judy will hear it. While I see a lot of love in Judy and her posts, she does have a tendency not to be able to hear the other side. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Many times in attempting to hear the other side, we ourselves lose a piece of truth that we should not. Many times Judy's posts have helped me from ignoring certain basic principles and truths in my effort to hear the other side. Therefore, what some might see as a defect or weakness, I see an aspect of strength in it. Perhaps love is not the right word choice in your comments to Judy concerning what she is lacking. Empathy is what you are really talking about. Love is concern and care for others. I think Judy has that. Empathy is the ability to understand and identify with another person's feelings or difficulties. There is perhaps some room for improvement in regards to this concerning theologians like Barth, Calvin, etc., or certain list members like John, Lance, Gary, Bill, etc. The question really is, should Judy be more empathic toward individuals such as these? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry
Judy wrote: I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give is my time and love for God's Word. I think what the Lord has done in you thus far is way above standard and needed by all of us. Please don't let criticisms, especially those offered with love, cause you to feel rejected or unloved. The wise man loves correction. You know this. I have often pondered how every President in this country, whether Republican or Democrat or whatever, never garners much more than 50% of the vote, and often much less. This conveys a message to me that in this country, any leader who is worthy will be rejected and wrongly criticized by at least about 50% of the people. The only people who are seemingly accepted by everyone are those who do nothing and say nothing. Clearly, the Lord does not want us to be in that category. Therefore, take the fact that someone has criticized something about you as evidence that you are on the right track in doing something. People only criticize those who are doing something. Be open for correction, hearing what is helpful in what is being said, and rejecting that which is not helpful. This is all we can do and it is all that God expects of us. On judgment day, we all come before the Lord to give account for ourselves. On that day, he will know how much you have worked on hearing and receiving the correction being given to you. He will not be calling for others to hear from them about you on that day. It will be only you and Him. He knows better than anyone, having lived in this flesh, that you must reject a lot of bad correction and receive only that which is good. The right response is to make that judgment of what is good and what is bad, and then move on. The wrong response is to retreat in order to avoid the tribulation that must necessarily come from doing what God would have you do. Wishing you the best in Christ, Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Lance wrote: I ask you, David. Should Judy be more 'empathetic' toward these? That is a difficult question for me because I think I err on the other side of being too empathetic at times. Judy helps balance me, and if she were as empathetic as me, we would lose something important. Personally, I think she could perhaps be a little more empathetic, but I fear to press that issue because I don't want to lose what Judy brings to the table. In many ways, I think I need to be more like her in this regard. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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I also do not wish to lose what Judy brings to the 'mix'. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 10:40 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry Lance wrote: I ask you, David. Should Judy be more 'empathetic' toward these? That is a difficult question for me because I think I err on the other side of being too empathetic at times. Judy helps balance me, and if she were as empathetic as me, we would lose something important. Personally, I think she could perhaps be a little more empathetic, but I fear to press that issue because I don't want to lose what Judy brings to the table. In many ways, I think I need to be more like her in this regard. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry
Well said, pastor. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 10:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry Judy wrote: I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give is my time and love for God's Word. I think what the Lord has done in you thus far is way above standard and needed by all of us. Please don't let criticisms, especially those offered with love, cause you to feel rejected or unloved. The wise man loves correction. You know this. I have often pondered how every President in this country, whether Republican or Democrat or whatever, never garners much more than 50% of the vote, and often much less. This conveys a message to me that in this country, any leader who is worthy will be rejected and wrongly criticized by at least about 50% of the people. The only people who are seemingly accepted by everyone are those who do nothing and say nothing. Clearly, the Lord does not want us to be in that category. Therefore, take the fact that someone has criticized something about you as evidence that you are on the right track in doing something. People only criticize those who are doing something. Be open for correction, hearing what is helpful in what is being said, and rejecting that which is not helpful. This is all we can do and it is all that God expects of us. On judgment day, we all come before the Lord to give account for ourselves. On that day, he will know how much you have worked on hearing and receiving the correction being given to you. He will not be calling for others to hear from them about you on that day. It will be only you and Him. He knows better than anyone, having lived in this flesh, that you must reject a lot of bad correction and receive only that which is good. The right response is to make that judgment of what is good and what is bad, and then move on. The wrong response is to retreat in order to avoid the tribulation that must necessarily come from doing what God would have you do. Wishing you the best in Christ, Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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What the Lord has done for Judy is not in question by anyone on this list. jd -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote: I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give is my time and love for God's Word. I think what the Lord has done in you thus far is way above standard and needed by all of us. Please don't let criticisms, especially those offered with love, cause you to feel rejected or unloved. The wise man loves correction. You know this. I have often pondered how every President in this country, whether Republican or Democrat or whatever, never garners much more than 50% of the vote, and often much less. This conveys a message to me that in this country, any leader who is worthy will be rejected and wrongly criticized by at l east about 50% of the people. The only people who are seemingly accepted by everyone are those who do nothing and say nothing. Clearly, the Lord does not want us to be in that category. Therefore, take the fact that someone has criticized something about you as evidence that you are on the right track in doing something. People only criticize those who are doing something. Be open for correction, hearing what is helpful in what is being said, and rejecting that which is not helpful. This is all we can do and it is all that God expects of us. On judgment day, we all come before the Lord to give account for ourselves. On that day, he will know how much you have worked on hearing and receiving the correction being given to you. He will not be calling for others to hear from them about you on that day. It will be only you and Him. He knows better than anyone, having lived in this flesh, that you must reject a lot of bad correctio n and receive only that which is good. The right response is to make that judgment of what is good and what is bad, and then move on. The wrong response is to retreat in order to avoid the tribulation that must necessarily come from doing what God would have you do. Wishing you the best in Christ, Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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! -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lance wrote: I ask you, David. Should Judy be more 'empathetic' toward these? That is a difficult question for me because I think I err on the other side of being too empathetic at times. Judy helps balance me, and if she were as empathetic as me, we would lose something important. Personally, I think she could perhaps be a little more empathetic, but I fear to press that issue because I don't want to lose what Judy brings to the table. In many ways, I think I need to be more like her in this regard. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http ://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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You are probably on to something here, David. I cannot say for sure. Anyone who loves the Lord will, if for no other reason than to be obedient, love the Lord's people. I am saying that I could not see it in the way she responded to people. Judy is not the only one on here to affect me that way. I see the same thing in myself and others at times. David Miller wrote: I have a very easy time seeing Judy as a very loving person. Others have expressed much grief over her posts, and much of the time I am somewhat surprised by such responses. Nevertheless, your advice here I think is very helpful if Judy will hear it. While I see a lot of love in Judy and her posts, she does have a tendency not to be able to hear the other side. This is not necessarily a bad thing. Many times in attempting to hear the other side, we ourselves lose a piece of truth that we should not. Many times Judy's posts have helped me from ignoring certain basic principles and truths in my effort to hear the other side. Therefore, what some might see as a defect or weakness, I see an aspect of strength in it. Perhaps love is not the right word choice in your comments to Judy concerning what she is lacking. Empathy is what you are really talking about. Love is concern and care for others. I think Judy has that. Empathy is the ability to understand and identify with another person's feelings or difficulties. There is perhaps some room for improvement in regards to this concerning theologians like Barth, Calvin, etc., or certain list members like John, Lance, Gary, Bill, etc. The question really is, should Judy be more empathic toward individuals such as these? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man. (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Ya know, I kinda had the same reaction but, thought I ought not say so. Now that you have expressed what I thought (!), I'll just say AMEN - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 20, 2005 11:56 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry ! -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lance wrote: I ask you, David. Should Judy be more 'empathetic' toward these? That is a difficult question for me because I think I err on the other side of being too empathetic at times. Judy helps balance me, and if she were as empathetic as me, we would lose something important. Personally, I think she could perhaps be a little more empathetic, but I fear to press that issue because I don't want to lose what Judy brings to the table. In many ways, I think I need to be more like her in this regard. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http ://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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cd: Judy I will miss you-know that we need you-that is why I came back-I hope you do the same-Terry is not who he seems don't let him hurt you -fight the good fight. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 12/19/2005 9:06:12 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry Terry, Thank you for your detailed response ... I would like to have an image that is pleasing to everyone and am truly sorry that I have missed the mark with this. I don't havemoney to show ppl love; and what I do have is constantly mocked and maligned. I never wanted to get into this back and forth volley of strife but I guess when we lay with the dogs we get up with fleas. I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give ismy time and love for God's Word. Actually I should - like Christine - be spending my time more wisely, especially at this time of year so I will follow her example and sign off for now. . Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season, judyt On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:56:34 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you could see the love you say you don't see in me - What would it look like? Can you describe it please? Does any person demonstrate it on TT? judytIf I could see it I could possibly describe it Judy, but I cannot see it. This concerns you so you obviously want to show people you love or care about them. The thing is, it just doesn't come through. I can see that you know your Bible. I can agree with much of what you post. I can see that you try to live a life pleasing to the Lord. The only thing missing is the love for others. Let me throw out a couple of possibilities for you to consider that might help. I am not suggesting that you stop being you. I am suggesting that you change your pattern a little to let others see the care you have in your heart. I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. (I seldom know what G or Bill i s talking about, but I seldom comment on anything they say) Surprisingly, I think Bill cares about the people here, maybe as much as Dean does. I see John and Izzy at their best and at their worst. Both of them , I believe, make a decision to be kinder and more loving, but their button eventually gets pushed and they start replying as you do.I know personally of David Millers love. He offered me financial help that ,thank the Lord, I did not need at the time, but the offer was sincere. He wanted to help me. That makes it easy to love him, cause like Christ, he loved me first. Marlin wanted to help his neighbor a while back, so no need to question the love in his heart. The others on the list have probably not impressed me one way or the other. I choose to think the best of them.We all have a long way to go in this area, Judy. You are not in this boat by yourself. None of us has reached the other shore. I had to peek around my beam to write what I did. Please think about what I've said. I meant to help, even if the short term result is hurtful. I will be praying for you.Terry judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
[TruthTalk] For Terry
Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you could see the love you say you don't see in me - What would it look like? Can you describe it please? Does any person demonstrate it on TT? judyt
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Judy Taylor wrote: Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you could see the love you say you don't see in me - What would it look like? Can you describe it please? Does any person demonstrate it on TT? judyt If I could see it I could possibly describe it Judy, but I cannot see it. This concerns you so you obviously want to show people you love or care about them. The thing is, it just doesn't come through. I can see that you know your Bible. I can agree with much of what you post. I can see that you try to live a life pleasing to the Lord. The only thing missing is the love for others. Let me throw out a couple of possibilities for you to consider that might help. I am not suggesting that you stop being you. I am suggesting that you change your pattern a little to let others see the care you have in your heart. I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. (I seldom know what G or Bill is talking about, but I seldom comment on anything they say) Surprisingly, I think Bill cares about the people here, maybe as much as Dean does. I see John and Izzy at their best and at their worst. Both of them , I believe, make a decision to be kinder and more loving, but their button eventually gets pushed and they start replying as you do. I know personally of David Millers love. He offered me financial help that ,thank the Lord, I did not need at the time, but the offer was sincere. He wanted to help me. That makes it easy to love him, cause like Christ, he loved me first. Marlin wanted to help his neighbor a while back, so no need to question the love in his heart. The others on the list have probably not impressed me one way or the other. I choose to think the best of them. We all have a long way to go in this area, Judy. You are not in this boat by yourself. None of us has reached the other shore. I had to peek around my beam to write what I did. Please think about what I've said. I meant to help, even if the short term result is hurtful. I will be praying for you. Terry
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Terry, Thank you for your detailed response ... I would like to have an image that is pleasing to everyone and am truly sorry that I have missed the mark with this. I don't havemoney to show ppl love; and what I do have is constantly mocked and maligned. I never wanted to get into this back and forth volley of strife but I guess when we lay with the dogs we get up with fleas. I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give ismy time and love for God's Word. Actually I should - like Christine - be spending my time more wisely, especially at this time of year so I will follow her example and sign off for now. . Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season, judyt On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:56:34 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you could see the love you say you don't see in me - What would it look like? Can you describe it please? Does any person demonstrate it on TT? judytIf I could see it I could possibly describe it Judy, but I cannot see it. This concerns you so you obviously want to show people you love or care about them. The thing is, it just doesn't come through. I can see that you know your Bible. I can agree with much of what you post. I can see that you try to live a life pleasing to the Lord. The only thing missing is the love for others. Let me throw out a couple of possibilities for you to consider that might help. I am not suggesting that you stop being you. I am suggesting that you change your pattern a little to let others see the care you have in your heart. I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. (I seldom know what G or Bill is talking about, but I seldom comment on anything they say) Surprisingly, I think Bill cares about the people here, maybe as much as Dean does. I see John and Izzy at their best and at their worst. Both of them , I believe, make a decision to be kinder and more loving, but their button eventually gets pushed and they start replying as you do.I know personally of David Millers love. He offered me financial help that ,thank the Lord, I did not need at the time, but the offer was sincere. He wanted to help me. That makes it easy to love him, cause like Christ, he loved me first. Marlin wanted to help his neighbor a while back, so no need to question the love in his heart. The others on the list have probably not impressed me one way or the other. I choose to think the best of them.We all have a long way to go in this area, Judy. You are not in this boat by yourself. None of us has reached the other shore. I had to peek around my beam to write what I did. Please think about what I've said. I meant to help, even if the short term result is hurtful. I will be praying for you.Terry judyt He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
RE: [TruthTalk] For Terry
Judy, if speaking the Truth is love, then you deserve a crown of glory. Blessings to you and yours, Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:57 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] For Terry Terry, Thank you for your detailed response ... I would like to have an image that is pleasing to everyone and am truly sorry that I have missed the mark with this. I don't havemoney to show ppl love; and what I do have is constantly mocked and maligned. I never wanted to get into this back and forth volley of strife but I guess when we lay with the dogs we get up with fleas. I'm really sorry that what the Lord has done in me so far is not up to standard. All I really have to give ismy time and love for God's Word. Actually I should - like Christine - be spending my time more wisely, especially at this time of year so I will follow her example and sign off for now. . Wishing everyone a joyous holiday season, judyt On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:56:34 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy Taylor wrote: Terry, You wrote a very explicit comment about me personally earlier today which caused me to respond with the following question. If you are walking in the kind of love you accuse me of being void of ... Then couldyou please answer the following for me. Terry, please tell me. If you could see the love you say you don't see in me - What would it look like? Can you describe it please? Does any person demonstrate it on TT? judyt If I could see it I could possibly describe it Judy, but I cannot see it. This concerns you so you obviously want to show people you love or care about them. The thing is, it just doesn't come through. I can see that you know your Bible. I can agree with much of what you post. I can see that you try to live a life pleasing to the Lord. The only thing missing is the love for others. Let me throw out a couple of possibilities for you to consider that might help. I am not suggesting that you stop being you. I am suggesting that you change your pattern a little to let others see the care you have in your heart. I would suggest first, that you need not respond to every post. Let some of them go by without a comment. Second, you might ask why a person came to his or her conclusion rather than just telling them flat out that they do not know what they are talking about. (I seldom know what G or Bill is talking about, but I seldom comment on anything they say) Surprisingly, I think Bill cares about the people here, maybe as much as Dean does. I see John and Izzy at their best and at their worst. Both of them , I believe, make a decision to be kinder and more loving, but their button eventually gets pushed and they start replying as you do. I know personally of David Millers love. He offered me financial help that ,thank the Lord, I did not need at the time, but the offer was sincere. He wanted to help me. That makes it easy to love him, cause like Christ, he loved me first. Marlin wanted to help his neighbor a while back, so no need to question the love in his heart. The others on the list have probably not impressed me one way or the other. I choose to think the best of them. We all have a long way to go in this area, Judy. You are not in this boat by yourself. None of us has reached the other shore. I had to peek around my beam to write what I did. Please think about what I've said. I meant to help, even if the short term result is hurtful. I will be praying for you. Terry judyt He that says I know Him and doesn't keep His Commandments is a liar (1 John 2:4)
