subject:"Fw\: \[TruthTalk\] More drivel from the heretic"




Neither of us have run down even one heretic 
and killed him so far Lance; if there are any
warnings, accusations, or threatenings they are 
from God Himself by way of His Word which
is the vehicle used by His Spirit to reveal 
Himself.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:13:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Augustine/Athanasius held different 
  understandings regarding the trinitarian nature of God. 
  
  Please explain 'what spirit YOU are of'! Both you 
  and DM seem given to 'warnings/accusations/threatenings'
  
From: Judy Taylor 

Methinks you know not what spirit you are 
of ... and you have undoubtedly become
just like your teachers ... (Augustine, 
Athanasius et al) Where's the love???


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted 
...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, 
  Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are 
  rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least been open with 
  him about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about Street 
  Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head 
  down there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like so long as 
it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't understand 
whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit 
under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about 
the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. 
Why don't you admit 
to him that it is a 
group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open 
with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

   "because the 
  understanding you have come back with is 
  that of the Church Fathers ..."
  
  If the Church fathers 
  make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  
  when speaking of God, I 
  am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
  
  problems with that, then 
  whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
  
  the bottle with 
  you. Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill 
because the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their 
words and actions (fruit) negated their 
  profession.
  -- This message has been scanned 
for viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed 
to be clean.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




I don't think so Lance, how does one 'model' 
how to live from afar and on a computer?
You know and Billknows (if you are 
honest) that I am not bitter, angry, and do not call either 

of you names. Also there is the issue 
ofBill holding me suspect andnot accepting anything I 

write to TT at face value because of conflicts 
with the patristic fathers, Baxter, Torrance, Polyani 
and because of what 
he considers to be my ignorance.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:15:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Perhaps 'model' would've been more 
  appropriate.
  
From: Judy Taylor 

Who set me up as your teacher - certainly 
not me?
Whats more this is a lie -You 
should be ashamed of yourself Bill Taylor

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:11:45 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I am fine with being responsible for what I say, Judy -- 
  but when it comes to being bitter, and angry, and calling names, I 
  amsimply modelingyou, my teacher.
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

None of what you are saying has 
anything to do with me
You are completely and totally 
responsible for your own words... (and the attitude behind 
them)

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  This must be an aberrent type 
  
  I don't know, Judy. I've always 
  thought it all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
  you.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Judy Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 
2:46 PM
    Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
        More drivel from the heretic

I've read books on "tough love" and 
none ever included bitterness and name 
calling.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  
From: Judy Taylor 

Methinks you know not what 
spirit you are of ... 
I know what 
Spirit I am of. 

and you have undoubtedly become 
just like your 
teachers ... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) 

You have 
more in common with Augustine than I. 


Where's the love??? 

You don't 
see the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always 
spouting. 
One would 
think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
yourself.

Bill


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  ... when you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are 
  rooted ...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs 
  are rooted, Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics 
  which are rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least 
  been open with him about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about 
  Street Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that 
  before we head down there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. 
  Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like 
so long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your 
conscience
that should be being defiled by 
such bitterness.I 
don't understand whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get 
Dean to sit under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about the "dancing trinity" This 
should be enlightening for him. Why don't you admit 

to him 
that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have 
you at least been open with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PR

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Muir




What you just did was an example of that which some 
find frustrating about you. IFO, mostly, do not. I do not see intent on your 
part when speaking this way concerning those named below. When I speak similarly 
concerning DM you see it differently, as did Iz. I'm actually in a better 
position to speak of DM than you are of those identified in this and, in 
numerous other posts. I assume that what you're getting at is that Scripture 
alone should be viewed and accessed as our authority in matters of 
faith/practice. May I ask whether you pulled all of your children from school so 
as to permit ONLY the reading of God's Word so as to free them from the taint of 
worldly wisdom? It'd appear that this was neither your solution nor that of DM 
or CM. Why?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: January 09, 2006 06:34
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel 
  from the heretic
  
  I don't think so Lance, how does one 'model' 
  how to live from afar and on a computer?
  You know and Billknows (if you are 
  honest) that I am not bitter, angry, and do not call either 
  
  of you names. Also there is the issue 
  ofBill holding me suspect andnot accepting anything I 
  
  write to TT at face value because of 
  conflicts with the patristic fathers, Baxter, Torrance, Polyani 
  
  and because of what he considers to be my ignorance.
  
  On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:15:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
Perhaps 'model' would've been more 
appropriate.

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  Who set me up as your teacher - certainly 
  not me?
  Whats more this is a lie -You 
  should be ashamed of yourself Bill Taylor
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:11:45 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
I am fine with being responsible for what I say, Judy 
-- but when it comes to being bitter, and angry, and calling names, I 
amsimply modelingyou, my teacher.

  From: Judy 
  Taylor 
  
  None of what you are saying has 
  anything to do with me
  You are completely and totally 
  responsible for your own words... (and the attitude behind 
  them)
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  

This must be an aberrent type 

I don't know, Judy. I've always 
thought it all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
you.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 
  2006 2:46 PM
      Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] 
      More drivel from the heretic
  
  I've read books on "tough love" 
  and none ever included bitterness and name 
  calling.
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  


  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  Methinks you know not what 
  spirit you are of ... 
  I know 
  what Spirit I am of. 
  
  and you have undoubtedly 
  become just like 
  your teachers ... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
  
  You have 
  more in common with Augustine than I. 
  
  
  Where's the love??? 
  
  You don't 
  see the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always 
  spouting. 
  One would 
  think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
  yourself.
  
  Bill
  
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
... when you agree 
that this is where your beliefs 
are rooted ...

I do not agree that this is where my 
beliefs are rooted, Judy. 
I hold beliefs in common with the 
Patristics which are rooted in Scripture.


... have you at least 
been open with him about that?

I am

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic









- Original Message - 
From: Judy Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/8/2006 3:30:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

You can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such bitterness.I don't understand whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't you admit 
to him that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with him about
that?
cd: Sister I thank you for your concern but if any member on this list is presenting the truth of God's word-regardless of it's origin I will support that truth. If this truth is presented incorrectly then I will disagree-some with strong disagreements other with my on timing as to when I will disagree or overlook to achieve a higher goal of destroying the wall completely-if possible.IfGod's words are presented to deceivethen trust God's work in me to discern that deception, but thank you again for your concern.Ihope this isn't taken as hard words as they are not meant to be so to you:-) I will add thatI believe it is wrong for John or Bill to speak to you in the manner they are doing andI hope they can change even asI am trying to change-why not help them change-kindness goes a long way even to one's enemies. Question: Is it possible that most are here to learn not to tear down?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 "because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers ..."

If the Church fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
when speaking of God, I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
problems with that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
the bottle with you. Bill

From: Judy Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill because the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their words and actions (fruit) negated their profession.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic






On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 07:27:37 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
cd: Sister I thank you for your concern but if any member on this 
list is presenting the truth of God's word-regardless of it's origin I will 
support that truth. If this truth is presented incorrectly then I will 
disagree-some with strong disagreements other with my on timing as to when I 
will disagree or overlook to achieve a higher goal of destroying the wall 
completely-if possible.

An honorable goal Dean

IfGod's words are presented to deceivethen trust God's 
work in me to discern that deception, but thank you again for your 
concern.

I do believe you would have discerned the error 
but it may have cost you financially becausethis 
man's
tapes online run from $340 - $370.00 so I 
figure a seminar would be costly also.

Ihope this isn't taken as hard words as they are not meant to 
be so to you:-) 

No Dean, youare not speaking as the 'sons 
of thunder' and I receive what you say as being said in 
love.

I will add thatI believe it is wrong for John or Bill to 
speak to you in the manner they are doing andI hope they can change even 
asI am trying to change-why not help them change-kindness goes a long way 
even to one's enemies. 

I don't consider them enemies Dean. We don't 
war against flesh and blood so these men are not our enemies; the war is against 
God's Word and I am aware ofwho my enemy is.

Question: Is it possible that most are here to learn not to tear 
down?

I sure hope so. I know this has been a learning 
experience for me.

  
  From: Judy Taylor 
  

You can call 
me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your 
conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't understand 
whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit 
under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about the 
"dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't 
you admit 
to him that it is a 
group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with 
him about
that?


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   "because the understanding 
  you have come back with is that of the Church 
  Fathers ..."
  
  If the Church fathers make 
  the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  when speaking of God, I am 
  orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
  
  problems with that, then 
  whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
  
  the bottle with you. 
  Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill because 
the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their 
words and actions (fruit) negated their 
  profession.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic


Judy is like a rebellious teenager, as far as I am concerned. She has been approached by those of us who seem (read: SEEM) to be opposed to her out of grace as well as frustration. It makes no difference. 

I have two choices. One is togive her credit for having the ability to usnerstand what is being said and respond with grace and patience while disagreeing. The other is to believe that she simply lacks the ability to carry on a discussion and to think on a critical level (and critical , here, means "to question, search seek ti apprehend) level. 

I do not regard it as "wrong" to protest being treated as a fraud, attached to the Accuser and full of blindness. 

If anyone of my loved ones were in need of loving counsel and patient understanding, I would not send them to Judy. 

I even took time to offer her a truce.I beleive the Spirit led me to write that post. She decided I was setting her up and refused to even ocnsider the post !!! 
I should have made this decision back then. 

A sign of fellowship with God is the attitude we have for the brethren (I John).
There are things that we do that indicate whether we are being submissive to the God within. I do not make judgment about her destiny -- just how she treats other people. 

DM does her no good whatsoever, as a pastor, to defend her belligerence. She needs correction. I am not excuding her from fellowship, by the way - I am just recognizing the obvious -- she does not regard me, Lance, Bill,G  and whoeveras being part of the fellowship of the saints and has nothing to gain from agreeing or even discussing anything with us.

Her attitude should be of great concern to those who continue to have her respect. 

jd













-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 









- Original Message - 
From: Judy Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/8/2006 3:30:21 PM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

You can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such bitterness.I don't understand whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't you admit 
to him that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with him about
that?
cd: Sister I thank you for your concern but if any member on this list is presenting the truth of God's word-regardless of it's origin I will support that truth. If this truth is presented incorrectly then I will disagree-some with strong disagreements other with my on timing as to when I will disagree or overlook to achieve a higher goal of destroying the wall completely-if possible.IfGod's words are presented to deceivethen trust God's work in me to discern that deception, but thank you again for your concern.Ihope this isn't taken as hard words as they are not meant to be so to you:-) I will add thatI believe it is wrong for John or Bill to speak to you in the manner they are doing andI hope they can change even asI am trying to change-why not help them change-kindness goes a long way even to one's enemies. Question: Is it possible that most are here to learn not to tear down?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 "because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers ..."

If the Church fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
when speaking of God, I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
problems with that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
the bottle with you. Bill

From: Judy Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill because the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their words and actions (fruit) negated their profession.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-09 Thread ttxpress




..'and the sun 
began to rain' (L Norman)

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:03:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I am not excuding her from fellowship, by the 
way

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-09 Thread David Miller

I think you are yet again misunderstanding what Judy meant by these words. 
The words you quote correspond exactly to what I have said.  I read her 
statement, None of what you are saying has anything to do with me, as 
saying, you are presenting straw men arguments.  She is saying that YOU, 
not HER, is the one totally responsible for the misunderstanding of her 
position by your constant misrepresentation of what she believes.

It seems to me that Judy just wants to deal with issues from a Scriptural 
perspective without all the personal attitude dialogue that you guys keep 
injecting into the discussion.  She also has an aversion to going outside 
the Bible for evidence or arguments.  You guys, for some reason, have a lot 
of problems with this.  Judy feels that the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit 
is enough to guide her into all truth.  Whether or not you agree with her 
about this persepctive, this is Judy.  If you are going to communicate with 
her, you will have to learn to understand and respect this aspect about her.

Peace be with you.
David Miller.

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

None of what you are saying has anything to do with me
You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the 
attitude behind them)  jt

DavidM  -- you might take to heart the words of Miz Judy above next time 
you see fit to blame her attitude on anyone other than herself.

jd

-- Original message -- 
From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

None of what you are saying has anything to do with me
You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the 
attitude behind them)

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This must be an aberrent type
I don't know, Judy. I've always thought it all aberrant. I'm just using what 
I've learned from you.
- Original Message - 
From: Judy Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic


I've read books on tough love and none ever included bitterness and name 
calling.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: Judy Taylor


Methinks you know not what spirit you are of ...
I know what Spirit I am of.

and you have undoubtedly become just like your teachers ... (Augustine, 
Athanasius et al)
You have more in common with Augustine than I.

Where's the love???
You don't see the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always 
spouting.
One would think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it yourself.

Bill


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted ...

I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, Judy.
I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are rooted in Scripture.


... have you at least been open with him about that?

I am sure there is much I do not know about Street Preaching:
do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head down there?
Mind your own business, heretic.  Bill
From: Judy Taylor

You can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators, 
it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such bitterness.  I don't understand why 
when you agree that
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit 
under Baxter Kruger
and hear all about the dancing trinity  This should be enlightening for 
him.  Why don't you admit
to him that it is a group who teach this perichoresis?  have you at least 
been open with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church 
Fathers ...

If the Church fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy:
when speaking of God, I am orthodox -- and that makes you the heretic. Got 
any
problems with that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad 
to share
the bottle with you.  Bill
From: Judy Taylor

You may need to take another trip Bill because the understanding you have 
come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their words and actions (fruit) negated 
their profession.


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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-09 Thread ttxpress




..poetically, the 
experience ofNT normalcy vis a vis the Apostolic witnesses--the 
status quoofthe Son of Godreigng today

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:24:16 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..'and the sun 
  began to rain' (L Norman)
  
  On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 15:03:28 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 I am not excuding her from fellowship, by the 
  way

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-09 Thread ttxpress





myth (Scriptural 
perspective is what she totallylacks equating her thought to 
God's, 1:1, Bro;meaning, basically,sheenlists as 
'friends'those whoallow her todominate the forumby 
equation/s--this not even the moderators can do partic among truly spiritual 
participants)

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:32:48 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:It 
seems to me that Judy just wants to deal with issues from a Scriptural 
perspective..

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




Who are these Gary? The "truly spiritual participants" 
that is (IYO of course).

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 08:41:47 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  myth (Scriptural 
  perspective is what she totallylacks equating her thought to 
  God's, 1:1, Bro;meaning, basically,sheenlists as 
  'friends'those whoallow her todominate the forumby 
  equation/s--
  this not even the 
  moderators can do partic among truly spiritual 
  participants)
  
  On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:32:48 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:It 
  seems to me that Judy just wants to deal with issues from a Scriptural 
  perspective..

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-09 Thread David Miller

JD wrote:
 Judy is like a rebellious teenager, as far
 as I am concerned.

On the contrary, as I have said before, she has integrity with the 
principles of learning which she has come to hold.

JD wrote:
 Her attitude should be of great concern to those
 who continue to have her respect.

Yet again, I repeat, from my perspective, you misjudge Judy's attitude.

This is suppose to be a discussion list and not a place to judge other list 
members as having a faulty attitude or as being someone who acts like a 
rebellious teenager just because that person is disagreeable with one's own 
personal thinking.  Talk about what Judy believes rather than about her.  Is 
it possible for you to do that?

Peace be with you.
David Miller. 

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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

Judy and her brand of logic/reality. She figures thus and so without even asking and this becomes her reality.Baxter's taped series does run around $350. Why? Well, for starters there is over 20 CD's in the series -- closer to 25 or 26 or whatever.

Part of the reason why Bill and I get along so well (Bill can correct me when he gets back from work) is that we respect well thought out opinions about the bible -- whether we believe them fully or not. When Bill and I get together , he does not speak andI say nothing but "amen." There is a constant exchange of ideas -- but we correct and build one onto another -- we do not take positions that are rigid. (all within the context of orthodoxy -- i.e. a reverent consideration for the written Word, a respect for what the Spirit is doing the lives of each other, and so on).

I don't think there is any charge for seminar - but if there is , we will take care of that. Mostly it will be a time to get to know each other. I don't about your friends, but me and mine enjoy discussing ("arguing") biblical points of view. I'd rather do that with my firends than shoot pool or dance.

Don't worry about what goes on at Baxter's. It is the wrong place to have an intellectual "knock down and drag out," that is for sure.And that is not why they attend . That is not why they invite others to attend.One thing that will become abucndantly clear is this: those stinking liberals know their bible just as good as anyone you have ever met. They are kind and gracious and always loaded for bear !!

Baxter is very forgiving sort of fellow, at least in his presentations. But he is not typical to what you are used to.

Here's my phone number. I would rather talk on the phone or in private memo about Baxter.

559-875-1465.

Again, the main purpose for this time, as far as I am concerned , is about the three of us. The rest will be what it is.

-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I do believe you would have discerned the error but it may have cost you financially becausethis man's
tapes online run from $340 - $370.00 so I figure a seminar would be costly also.

Bill, JD- Is this true?ShouldI expect a charge for this visit?I also feel compelled to tell you that I nor you (if you answer questions in public and preach with us in New Orleans) will be able to do much debating at Baxter's. And could you tell me more of Baxter-He is starting to sound interesting?

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cd: Sound good andI will give my # when I call you sometime in the next couple of days -This sound the same as with the street preachers. They also are good people-sometime an occasional oddball will come alone that cause more harm than good but that is to be expected andthey generally don't stay around long.I think we will have a great time learning about each other and you might be surprised how much knowledge the Street Preachers have-DavidM might be able to join us this year-David? I noticed a change in the last timeI was in N.O. in that Ruben went to the local church and rested ever three hours or so. That 14 hrs straight with no break was tough on the legs and mind.




- Original Message - 
From: 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/9/2006 1:50:48 PM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

Judy and her brand of logic/reality. She figures thus and so without even asking and this becomes her reality.Baxter's taped series does run around $350. Why? Well, for starters there is over 20 CD's in the series -- closer to 25 or 26 or whatever. 

Part of the reason why Bill and I get along so well (Bill can correct me when he gets back from work) is that we respect well thought out opinions about the bible -- whether we believe them fully or not. When Bill and I get together , he does not speak andI say nothing but "amen." There is a constant exchange of ideas -- but we correct and build one onto another -- we do not take positions that are rigid. (all within the context of orthodoxy -- i.e. a reverent consideration for the written Word, a respect for what the Spirit is doing the lives of each other, and so on).

I don't think there is any charge for seminar - but if there is , we will take care of that. Mostly it will be a time to get to know each other. I don't about your friends, but me and mine enjoy discussing ("arguing") biblical points of view. I'd rather do that with my firends than shoot pool or dance. 

Don't worry about what goes on at Baxter's. It is the wrong place to have an intellectual "knock down and drag out," that is for sure.And that is not why they attend . That is not why they invite others to attend.One thing that will become abucndantly clear is this: those stinking liberals know their bible just as good as anyone you have ever met. They are kind and gracious and always loaded for bear !! 

Baxter is very forgiving sort of fellow, at least in his presentations. But he is not typical to what you are used to. 

Here's my phone number. I would rather talk on the phone or in private memo about Baxter. 

559-875-1465. 

Again, the main purpose for this time, as far as I am concerned , is about the three of us. The rest will be what it is. 

Jd



-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 









I do believe you would have discerned the error but it may have cost you financially becausethis man's
tapes online run from $340 - $370.00 so I figure a seminar would be costly also.

Bill, JD- Is this true?ShouldI expect a charge for this visit?I also feel compelled to tell you that I nor you (if you answer questions in public and preach with us in New Orleans) will be able to do much debating at Baxter's. And could you tell me more of Baxter-He is starting to sound interesting?

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




In Australia they charge $99 but then I guess 
that will be covered for you - so no worries Dean
so long as you are walking in 
discernment. Don't get too tired during those long days in New 
Orleans
because you will need to be 
alert

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:50:42 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Judy and her brand of logic/reality. She figures thus and so 
  without even asking and this becomes her reality.Baxter's taped series 
  does run around $350. Why? Well, for starters there is over 20 
  CD's in the series -- closer to 25 or 26 or whatever. 
  
  
  Part of the reason why Bill and I get along so well (Bill can 
  correct me when he gets back from work) is that we respect well thought out 
  opinions about the bible -- whether we believe them fully or not. 
  When Bill and I get together , he does not speak andI 
  say nothing but "amen." There is a constant exchange of ideas 
  -- but we correct and build one onto another -- we do not take 
  positions that are rigid. (all within the context of 
  orthodoxy -- i.e. a reverent consideration for the written 
  Word, a respect for what the Spirit is doing the lives of each 
  other, and so on).
  
  I don't think there is any charge for seminar - but if there 
  is , we will take care of that. Mostly it will be a time to 
  get to know each other. I don't about your friends, but me 
  and mine enjoy discussing ("arguing") biblical points of view. I'd 
  rather do that with my firends than shoot pool or dance. 
  
  Don't worry about what goes on at Baxter's. It is 
  the wrong place to have an intellectual "knock down and drag out," that 
  is for sure.And that is not why they attend . That is 
  not why they invite others to attend.One thing that will become 
  abucndantly clear is this: those stinking liberals know their bible just 
  as good as anyone you have ever met. They are kind and gracious and 
  always loaded for bear !! 
  
  Baxter is very forgiving sort of fellow, at least in his 
  presentations. But he is not typical to what you are used 
  to. 
  
  Here's my phone number. I would rather talk on the phone or 
  in private memo about Baxter. 
  
  559-875-1465. 
  
  Again, the main purpose for this time, as far as I am concerned , is 
  about the three of us. The rest will be what it is. 
  
  Jd
  
  
  
  -- 
Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 







  
  
  I do believe you would have discerned the 
  error but it may have cost you financially becausethis 
  man's
  tapes online run from $340 - $370.00 so I 
  figure a seminar would be costly also.
  
  Bill, JD- Is this 
  true?ShouldI expect a charge for this visit?I also feel compelled to 
  tell you that I nor you (if you answer questions in public and preach with 
  us in New Orleans) will be able to do much debating at Baxter's. And could 
  you tell me more of Baxter-He is starting to sound 
  interesting?

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic









- Original Message - 
From: Judy Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/9/2006 2:17:27 PM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

In Australia they charge $99 but then I guess that will be covered for you - so no worries Dean
so long as you are walking in discernment. Don't get too tired during those long days in New Orleans
because you will need to be alert
cd: Thanks Judy- Can you recommend a site for Baxter? Are you sure you're concerned are for the right person(s) :-)

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:50:42 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Judy and her brand of logic/reality. She figures thus and so without even asking and this becomes her reality.Baxter's taped series does run around $350. Why? Well, for starters there is over 20 CD's in the series -- closer to 25 or 26 or whatever. 

Part of the reason why Bill and I get along so well (Bill can correct me when he gets back from work) is that we respect well thought out opinions about the bible -- whether we believe them fully or not. When Bill and I get together , he does not speak andI say nothing but "amen." There is a constant exchange of ideas -- but we correct and build one onto another -- we do not take positions that are rigid. (all within the context of orthodoxy -- i.e. a reverent consideration for the written Word, a respect for what the Spirit is doing the lives of each other, and so on).

I don't think there is any charge for seminar - but if there is , we will take care of that. Mostly it will be a time to get to know each other. I don't about your friends, but me and mine enjoy discussing ("arguing") biblical points of view. I'd rather do that with my firends than shoot pool or dance. 

Don't worry about what goes on at Baxter's. It is the wrong place to have an intellectual "knock down and drag out," that is for sure.And that is not why they attend . That is not why they invite others to attend.One thing that will become abucndantly clear is this: those stinking liberals know their bible just as good as anyone you have ever met. They are kind and gracious and always loaded for bear !! 

Baxter is very forgiving sort of fellow, at least in his presentations. But he is not typical to what you are used to. 

Here's my phone number. I would rather talk on the phone or in private memo about Baxter. 

559-875-1465. 

Again, the main purpose for this time, as far as I am concerned , is about the three of us. The rest will be what it is. 

Jd



-- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 









I do believe you would have discerned the error but it may have cost you financially becausethis man's
tapes online run from $340 - $370.00 so I figure a seminar would be costly also.

Bill, JD- Is this true?ShouldI expect a charge for this visit?I also feel compelled to tell you that I nor you (if you answer questions in public and preach with us in New Orleans) will be able to do much debating at Baxter's. And could you tell me more of Baxter-He is starting to sound interesting?

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David, I spoke of what you said and used the words of Judy to make my point. The fact of the matter is that no one can blame others for their poor attitude."The Devil made me do it" only worked with Flip Wilson.

-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think you are yet again misunderstanding what Judy meant by these words. The words you quote correspond exactly to what I have said. I read her statement, "None of what you are saying has anything to do with me," as saying, "you are presenting straw men arguments." She is saying that YOU, not HER, is the one totally responsible for the misunderstanding of her position by your constant misrepresentation of what she believes. It seems to me that Judy just wants to deal with issues from a Scriptural perspective without all the personal attitude dialogue that you guys keep injecting into the discussion. She also has an aversion to going outside the Bible for evidence or arguments. You guys, for some reason, have a lot of problems with this.
Judy feels that the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit is enough to guide her into all truth. Whether or not you agree with her about this persepctive, this is Judy. If you are going to communicate with her, you will have to learn to understand and respect this aspect about her. Peace be with you. David Miller. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic None of what you are saying has anything to do with me You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the attitude behind them) jt DavidM -- you might take to heart the words of Miz Judy above next time you see fit to blame her attitude on anyone other than herself. jd -- Origin
al message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> None of what you are saying has anything to do with me You are completely and totally responsible for your own words... (and the attitude behind them) On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: This must be an aberrent type I don't know, Judy. I've always thought it all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from you. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the hereticI've read books on "tough love" and none ever included bitterness and name calling. On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: From: Judy Taylor
; Methinks you know not what spirit you are of ... I know what Spirit I am of. and you have undoubtedly become just like your teachers ... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) You have more in common with Augustine than I. Where's the love??? You don't see the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. One would think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it yourself. BillOn Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: ... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted ... I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, Judy. I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are rooted in Scripture.... have you at least been open with him about that? I am sure there is much I do not know about Street Preaching: do what want Dean to come clean on
that before we head down there? Mind your own business, heretic. Bill From: Judy Taylor You can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience that should be being defiled by such bitterness. I don't understand why when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit under Baxter Kruger and hear all about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't you admit to him that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with him about that? On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>writes: "because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers ..." If the Church fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: when speaking of God, I am orthodox -- and that makes
you the heretic. Got any problems with that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share the bottle with you. Bill From: Judy Taylor You may need to take another trip Bill because the understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers who by their words and actions (fruit) negated their profession.-- &quo

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

If you are going to communicate with her, you will have to learn to understand and respect this aspect about her DM

The above has to do with DM's understanding that Judy thinks the scriptures and the Spirit are all she really needs.

And what anyone on this forum needs to understand is that what we sommunicate

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

If you are going to communicate with her, you will have to learn to understand and respect this aspect about her DM

The above has to do with DM's understanding that Judy thinks the scriptures and the Spirit are all she really needs.

And what anyone on this forum needs to understand is that what we sommunicate IS

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Now that's a thought Dean :) Try 
the sites below.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 15:56:02 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  cd: Thanks Judy- Can you recommend a site for 
  Baxter? Are you sure you're concerned are for the right person(s) 
  :-)
  
  [PDF] The Divine Dance as the Hermeneutical Key to Ontology and 
  ...File Format: 
  PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLKruger, C. Baxter. God 
  is for Us. 1995. Second edition. Jackson, MS: 
  Perichoresis.Press, 2000. . The Great Dance: The Christian Vision 
  Revisited. ...www.dwightfriesen.com/ WritingEssays-Dwight-DivineDance.pdf - 
  Similarpages 
  
  TheoCenTriC: Why the God-Man?[7] C. 
  Baxter Kruger, The Great Dance: The Christian Vision Revisited 
  (Jackson,Mississippi: Perichoresis Press, 2000), 31-32. [8] Kathryn 
  Tanner, Jesus, ...www.theocentric.com/theoarchives/000328.html - 34k - 
  Cached - Similarpages 
  
  
  [PDF] Registration Form Registration Form Registration Form 
  Registration ...File 
  Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTMLDr Baxter Kruger:. Dr 
  Baxter Kruger:. Dr Baxter Kruger:. Dr Baxter 
  Kruger:.Dr Baxter Kruger is the director of the. Jackson 
  Mississippi based Perichoresis ...www.perichoresis.org.au/ download/2005_Canberra_Conference.pdf 
  - Similarpages 
  
  COS: 
  Links... tapes, on-line articles and more 
  from friends Baxter Kruger and Cary Stockett)... Cary at 
  Christ UMC, Jackson, MS · Online conversions between unit 
  ...www.netdoor.com/com/umcos/links.html - 32k - Cached - Similarpages 
  
From: Judy Taylor 

In Australia they charge $99 but then I 
guess that will be covered for you - so no worries 
Dean
so long as you are walking in 
discernment. Don't get too tired during those long days in New 
Orleans
because you will need to be 
alert

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic


This is suppose to be a discussion list and not a place to judge other list members as having a faulty attitude

Really? Then why do you major in the practice, yourself? 

jd




-- Original message -- From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  JD wrote:   Judy is like a rebellious teenager, as far   as I am concerned.   On the contrary, as I have said before, she has integrity with the  principles of learning which she has come to hold.   JD wrote:   Her attitude should be of great concern to those   who continue to have her respect.   Yet again, I repeat, from my perspective, you misjudge Judy's attitude.   This is suppose to be a discussion list and not a place to judge other list  members as having a faulty attitude or as being someone who acts like a  rebellious teenager just because that person is disagreeable with one's own  personal thinking. Talk about what Judy believes rather than about her. Is  it possible for you 
to do that?   Peace be with you.  David Miller.   --  "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how  you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org   If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend  who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and  he will be subscribed.

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2006-01-09 Thread Taylor




Perichoresis (Baxter's ministry) offers a 
year-long series on 31 CDs, consisting of lectures on Christ, the Trinity, 
election and adoption, among other topics,for somethingover $300; 
which isquite reasonably priced considering the thousands you would spend 
receiving comparable instructionat seminary. Last year's two-day seminar 
was $50 and included a breakfast, lunch, and crawfish fry. I doubt that any left 
thinking it overpriced -- even if they didn't take to sucking the brains out of 
bugs.

And you must have misunderstood me, Dean: I said 
"learn from Baxter ..." Why must that involve debate?

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dean 
  Moore 
  


I do believe you would have discerned the 
error but it may have cost you financially becausethis 
man's
tapes online run from $340 - $370.00 so I 
figure a seminar would be costly also.

Bill, JD- Is this true?ShouldI 
expect a charge for this visit?I also feel compelled to tell you that I nor 
you (if you answer questions in public and preach with us in New Orleans) 
will be able to do much debating at Baxter's. And could you tell me more of 
Baxter-He is starting to sound interesting?
-- 
  This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed to be 
  clean.

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- Original Message - 
From: Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: 1/10/2006 12:34:32 AM 
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

Perichoresis (Baxter's ministry) offers a year-long series on 31 CDs, consisting of lectures on Christ, the Trinity, election and adoption, among other topics,for somethingover $300; which isquite reasonably priced considering the thousands you would spend receiving comparable instructionat seminary. Last year's two-day seminar was $50 and included a breakfast, lunch, and crawfish fry. I doubt that any left thinking it overpriced -- even if they didn't take to sucking the brains out of bugs.

And you must have misunderstood me, Dean: I said "learn from Baxter ..." Why must that involve debate?

Bill
cd: Bill I find you to be a thinking man-if Baxter has impressed you-thenI will give him the benefit of the doubt and listen to what he has to say-after that I will give you my opinion-only if you ask for that opinion-fair enough? By the way there are many crayfish in the springs above my house-boil them with corn on the cob:-)

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 "because the understanding you have 
come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
..."

If the Church fathers make the 
difference, then you are correct, Judy: when speaking of God, I am orthodox 
--and that makes you the heretic. Got any problems with that, then whine 
to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share the bottle with 
you.

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:57 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ as 
  the incarnate God
  
  You may need to take another trip Bill because the 
  understanding you have come back with
  is that of the Church Fathers who by their words and 
  actions (fruit) negated their 
profession.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




You can call me whatever you like so long as it's OK 
with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't understand 
whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs 
are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit under Baxter Kruger 

and hear all about the 
"dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't you 
admit 
to him that it is a group 
who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with him 
about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   "because the understanding you 
  have come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
  ..."
  
  If the Church fathers make the 
  difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  when speaking of God, I am 
  orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
  
  problems with that, then whine 
  to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
  
  the bottle with you. 
  Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill because the 
understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their words 
and actions (fruit) negated their profession.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

2006-01-08 Thread ttxpress




this isn't a Rock 
band?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:28:19 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Baxter Kruger..and the "dancing 
  trinity"

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




ROTFL!!!

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:46:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  this isn't a Rock 
  band?
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:28:19 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  
Baxter Kruger..and the "dancing 
trinity"

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




Methinks you know not what spirit you are of 
... and you have undoubtedly become
just like your teachers ... (Augustine, 
Athanasius et al) Where's the love???


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted ...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, 
  Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are 
  rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least been open with him 
  about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about Street 
  Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head down 
  there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like so long as it's 
OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't understand 
whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit 
under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about the 
"dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why don't 
you admit 
to him that it is a 
group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open with 
him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   "because the understanding 
  you have come back with is that of the Church 
  Fathers ..."
  
  If the Church fathers make 
  the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  when speaking of God, I am 
  orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
  
  problems with that, then 
  whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
  
  the bottle with you. 
  Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill because 
the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their 
words and actions (fruit) negated their 
  profession.
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viruses and dangerous content by Plains.Net, and is believed to 
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:29 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel 
  from the heretic

  Methinks you know not what spirit you are of 
  ... I know what Spirit I am of. 

  and you have undoubtedly become 
  just like your teachers ... 
  (Augustine, Athanasius et al) You have more in common with 
  Augustine than I. 

  Where's the love??? You 
  don't see the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. One 
  would think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
  yourself.

  Bill

  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted ...

I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, 
Judy. 
I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are 
rooted in Scripture.

... have you at least been open with 
him about that?

I am sure there is much I do not know about Street 
Preaching: 
do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head 
down there? 
Mind your own business, heretic. Bill

  From: Judy Taylor 

  You can call me whatever you like so long as it's 
  OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
  that should be being defiled by such 
  bitterness.I don't understand 
  whywhen you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit 
  under Baxter Kruger 
  and hear all about the 
  "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. Why 
  don't you admit 
  to him that it is a 
  group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open 
  with him about
  that?

  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 "because the understanding 
you have come back with is that of the Church 
Fathers ..."

If the Church fathers make 
the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 

when speaking of God, I am 
orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 

problems with that, then 
whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 

the bottle with you. 
Bill

  From: Judy 
  Taylor 

  You may need to take another trip Bill 
  because the understanding you have come back with
  is that of the Church Fathers who by their 
  words and actions (fruit) negated their 
profession.
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I've read books on "tough love" and none ever 
included bitterness and name calling.
This must be an aberrent 
type

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
From: Judy Taylor 

Methinks you know not what spirit you are 
of ... 
I know what Spirit I am 
of. 

and you have undoubtedly become 
just like your teachers ... 
(Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
You have more in common 
with Augustine than I. 

Where's the love??? 
You don't see the love, 
Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. 

One would think it 
recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
yourself.

Bill


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ... when you agree that this is where your beliefs are rooted 
...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are rooted, 
  Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are 
  rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least been open with 
  him about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about Street 
  Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head 
  down there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like so long as 
it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't understand 
whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to sit 
under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all about 
the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him. 
Why don't you admit 
to him that it is a 
group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been open 
with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

   "because the 
  understanding you have come back with is 
  that of the Church Fathers ..."
  
  If the Church fathers 
  make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  
  when speaking of God, I 
  am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
  
  problems with that, then 
  whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
  
  the bottle with 
  you. Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill 
because the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by their 
words and actions (fruit) negated their 
  profession.
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic

This must be an aberrent type I don't know, Judy. I've always thought it all aberrant. I'm just
using what I've learned from you.

- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel
from the heretic

I've read books on "tough love" and none ever
included bitterness and name calling.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

From: Judy Taylor

Methinks you know not what spirit you are
of ...
I know what Spirit I
am of.

and you have undoubtedly become
just like your teachers ...
(Augustine, Athanasius et al)
You have more in
common with Augustine than I.

Where's the love???

You don't see the
love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting.

One would think it
recognizable -- you being so familiar with it
yourself.

Bill

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

... when you agree that
this is where your beliefs are rooted
...

I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are
rooted, Judy.
I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which are
rooted in Scripture.

... have you at least been open
with him about that?

I am sure there is much I do not know about Street
Preaching:
do what want Dean to come clean on that before we head
down there?
Mind your own business, heretic. Bill

From: Judy
Taylor

You can call me whatever you like so long as
it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such
bitterness.I don't understand
whywhen you agree that
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to
sit under Baxter Kruger
and hear all about
the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for him.
Why don't you admit
to him that it is
a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least been
open with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

"because the
understanding you have come back with is
that of the Church Fathers ..."

If the Church fathers
make the difference, then you are correct, Judy:

when speaking of God,
I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any

problems with that,
then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share

the bottle with
you. Bill

From: Judy Taylor

You may need to take another trip Bill
because the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by
their words and actions (fruit) negated their
profession.
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None of what you are saying has anything to do 
with me
You are completely and totally responsible for 
your own words... (and the attitude behind them)

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  This must be an aberrent type 
  
  I don't know, Judy. I've always thought it 
  all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
  you.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Judy 
Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More 
    drivel from the heretic

I've read books on "tough love" and none 
ever included bitterness and name calling.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

Methinks you know not what spirit you 
are of ... 
I know what Spirit 
I am of. 

and you have undoubtedly become 
just like your teachers ... 
(Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
You have more in 
common with Augustine than I. 

Where's the love??? 

You don't see the 
love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. 

One would think it 
recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
yourself.

Bill


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  ... when you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are rooted 
  ...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are 
  rooted, Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which 
  are rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least been open 
  with him about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about Street 
  Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that before we 
  head down there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. Bill
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like so long 
as it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't understand 
whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean to 
sit under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all 
about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for 
him. Why don't you admit 
to him that it 
is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least 
been open with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

   "because the 
  understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
  ..."
  
  If the Church 
  fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  
  when speaking of 
  God, I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got any 
  
  problems with that, 
  then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to share 
  
  the bottle with 
  you. Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You may need to take another trip Bill 
because the understanding you have come back with
is that of the Church Fathers who by 
their words and actions (fruit) negated their 
profession.
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I am fine with being responsible for what I say, Judy -- but 
when it comes to being bitter, and angry, and calling names, I amsimply 
modelingyou, my teacher.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:56 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel 
  from the heretic
  
  None of what you are saying has anything to 
  do with me
  You are completely and totally responsible 
  for your own words... (and the attitude behind them)
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  

This must be an aberrent type 

I don't know, Judy. I've always thought it 
all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
you.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More 
      drivel from the heretic
  
  I've read books on "tough love" and none 
  ever included bitterness and name calling.
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  


  From: Judy 
  Taylor 
  
  Methinks you know not what spirit you 
  are of ... 
  I know what 
  Spirit I am of. 
  
  and you have undoubtedly become 
  just like your teachers 
  ... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
  You have more in 
  common with Augustine than I. 
  
  Where's the love??? 
  
  You don't see the 
  love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. 
  
  One would think 
  it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
  yourself.
  
  Bill
  
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
... when you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted 
...

I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are 
rooted, Judy. 
I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics which 
are rooted in Scripture.


... have you at least been 
open with him about that?

I am sure there is much I do not know about Street 
Preaching: 
do what want Dean to come clean on that before we 
head down there? 
Mind your own business, heretic. 
Bill

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  You can call me whatever you like so long 
  as it's OK with the moderators, it's your conscience
  that should be being defiled by such 
  bitterness.I don't 
  understand whywhen you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean 
  to sit under Baxter Kruger 
  and hear all 
  about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening for 
  him. Why don't you admit 
  to him that it 
  is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at least 
  been open with him about
  that?
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
 "because the 
understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
..."

If the Church 
fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 

when speaking of 
God, I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got 
any 
problems with 
that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad to 
share 
the bottle with 
you. Bill

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  You may need to take another trip 
  Bill because the understanding you have come back 
  with
  is that of the Church Fathers who by 
  their words and actions (fruit) negated their 
  profession.
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Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




Who set me up as your teacher - certainly not 
me?
Whats more this is a lie -You 
should be ashamed of yourself Bill Taylor

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:11:45 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I am fine with being responsible for what I say, Judy -- but 
  when it comes to being bitter, and angry, and calling names, I amsimply 
  modelingyou, my teacher.
  
From: Judy Taylor 

None of what you are saying has anything to 
do with me
You are completely and totally responsible 
for your own words... (and the attitude behind them)

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  This must be an aberrent type 
  
  I don't know, Judy. I've always thought 
  it all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
  you.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Judy 
Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 
PM
        Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More 
drivel from the heretic

I've read books on "tough love" and 
none ever included bitterness and name calling.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

Methinks you know not what spirit 
you are of ... 
I know what 
Spirit I am of. 

and you have undoubtedly become 
just like your teachers 
... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
You have more 
in common with Augustine than I. 

Where's the love??? 

You don't see 
the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. 

One would think 
it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
yourself.

Bill


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  ... when you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are rooted 
  ...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are 
  rooted, Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics 
  which are rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least been 
  open with him about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about 
  Street Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that before 
  we head down there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. 
  Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like so 
long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your 
conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't 
understand whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean 
to sit under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all 
about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening 
for him. Why don't you admit 
to him that 
it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at 
least been open with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

   "because the 
  understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
  ..."
  
  If the Church 
  fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  
  when speaking of 
  God, I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got 
  any 
  problems with 
  that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad 
  to share 
  the bottle with 
  you. Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You may need to take another trip 
Bill because the understanding you have come back 
with
is that of the Church Fathers who 
by their words and actions (fruit) negated their 
profession.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




You criticize me for going home early.Don't complain 
when I stay: this is all any of your discussions ever amount to. 

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Taylor 
  
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:11 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel 
  from the heretic
  
  I am fine with being responsible for what I say, Judy -- but 
  when it comes to being bitter, and angry, and calling names, I amsimply 
  modelingyou, my teacher.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Judy 
Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:56 
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More 
drivel from the heretic

None of what you are saying has anything to 
do with me
You are completely and totally responsible 
for your own words... (and the attitude behind them)

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  This must be an aberrent type 
  
  I don't know, Judy. I've always thought 
  it all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
  you.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Judy 
Taylor 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:46 
PM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More 
    drivel from the heretic

I've read books on "tough love" and 
none ever included bitterness and name calling.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  
  
From: Judy 
Taylor 

Methinks you know not what spirit 
you are of ... 
I know what 
Spirit I am of. 

and you have undoubtedly become 
just like your teachers 
... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
You have more 
in common with Augustine than I. 

Where's the love??? 

You don't see 
the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. 

One would think 
it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
yourself.

Bill


On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  ... when you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are rooted 
  ...
  
  I do not agree that this is where my beliefs are 
  rooted, Judy. 
  I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics 
  which are rooted in Scripture.
  
  
  ... have you at least been 
  open with him about that?
  
  I am sure there is much I do not know about 
  Street Preaching: 
  do what want Dean to come clean on that before 
  we head down there? 
  Mind your own business, heretic. 
  Bill
  
From: Judy Taylor 

You can call me whatever you like so 
long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your 
conscience
that should be being defiled by such 
bitterness.I don't 
understand whywhen you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get Dean 
to sit under Baxter Kruger 
and hear all 
about the "dancing trinity" This should be enlightening 
for him. Why don't you admit 
to him that 
it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have you at 
least been open with him about
that?

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

   "because the 
  understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
  ..."
  
  If the Church 
  fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 
  
  when speaking of 
  God, I am orthodox --and that makes you the heretic. Got 
  any 
  problems with 
  that, then whine to the moderators. I'm sure they'll be glad 
  to share 
  the bottle with 
  you. Bill

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic




Yeah Judy, I will admit, I'm feeling sort of smarmy. What 
mustit like being this way all the time? I am so thankful I don't know. 
Anyway, I think I've made my point. I'll leave you with any last 
words.

Bill

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy 
  Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:07 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel 
  from the heretic
  
  Who set me up as your teacher - certainly not 
  me?
  Whats more this is a lie -You 
  should be ashamed of yourself Bill Taylor
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:11:45 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I am fine with being responsible for what I say, Judy -- 
but when it comes to being bitter, and angry, and calling names, I 
amsimply modelingyou, my teacher.

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  None of what you are saying has anything 
  to do with me
  You are completely and totally 
  responsible for your own words... (and the attitude behind 
  them)
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 15:02:11 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
  

This must be an aberrent type 

I don't know, Judy. I've always thought 
it all aberrant. I'm just using what I've learned from 
you.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judy Taylor 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 
  2:46 PM
          Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More 
  drivel from the heretic
  
  I've read books on "tough love" and 
  none ever included bitterness and name calling.
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:53:10 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  


  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  Methinks you know not what spirit 
  you are of ... 
  I know what 
  Spirit I am of. 
  
  and you have undoubtedly become 
  just like your 
  teachers ... (Augustine, Athanasius et al) 
  You have more 
  in common with Augustine than I. 
  
  Where's the love??? 
  
  You don't see 
  the love, Judy? This is that tough love you are always spouting. 
  
  One would 
  think it recognizable -- you being so familiar with it 
  yourself.
  
  Bill
  
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 13:54:20 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
... when you agree that 
this is where your beliefs are rooted 
...

I do not agree that this is where my beliefs 
are rooted, Judy. 
I hold beliefs in common with the Patristics 
which are rooted in Scripture.


... have you at least been 
open with him about that?

I am sure there is much I do not know about 
Street Preaching: 
do what want Dean to come clean on that before 
we head down there? 
Mind your own business, heretic. 
Bill

  From: Judy Taylor 
  
  You can call me whatever you like so 
  long as it's OK with the moderators, it's your 
  conscience
  that should be being defiled by such 
  bitterness.I don't 
  understand whywhen you agree that 
  this is where your beliefs are rooted and are busy trying to get 
  Dean to sit under Baxter Kruger 
  and hear all about the "dancing trinity" This 
  should be enlightening for him. Why don't you admit 
  
  to him 
  that it is a group who teach this "perichoresis"? have 
  you at least been open with him about
  that?
  
  On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 09:03:22 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
 "because the 
understanding you have come back with is that of the Church Fathers 
..."

If the Church 
fathers make the difference, then you are correct, Judy: 

when speaking

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] More drivel from the heretic