Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Report: Megyn Kelly's first NBC interview will be the Kardashians

2017-09-29 Thread Steve Timko 
A piece in Vulture says Megyn Kelly's show needs to be rebuilt.
http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/megyn-kelly-today-needs-to-be-torn-down-and-rebuilt.html

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:

> This is an interesting analysis of Megyn Kelly's attempt at hosting a
> morning show.
> covfefe
> 
>
> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 1:38 AM, Steve Timko 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Washington Post says Kelly's daytime debut bombed.
>>>
>>> NBC’s Megyn Kelly experiment unveils its latest creation, a morning-show
>>> Bride of Frankenstein
>>> http://wapo.st/2yE09zM
>>>
>>
>> Debut shows are usually a mess. That's low hanging fruit for a critic and
>> I thought Stuever handled it well - he called it an experiment and a work
>> in progress.
>>
>> The success or failure of a show like this is the connection the home
>> audience feels with the host. A lot of TV sets will have the Today Show on
>> at 9, having watched the previous hour. How many are still tuned in at 9:15
>> will be what's important.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Kevin M. 
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:25 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> That location will fetch top dollar. There's got to be a lot of places in
> The Valley or Pasadena or wherever for much less.
>

When I interviewed former KCBS/KCAL anchorman Paul Magers, we chatted about
how the news studio is in the valley instead of TV City because
logistically it would be a nightmare dispatching people from the Fairfax
District. No quick access to freeways, clogged roads, tourists everywhere.

Pasadena real estate is extremely high. In 1999 I sublet a one bedroom
apartment in an 80-year-old building in South Pasadena. It had a leaky
roof, dangerous wiring, no parking, and a rickety floor. At $500 a month,
it was overpriced. The same apartment with no major modifications now rents
for nearly $2500.

The Valley will almost certainly be where the Tiffany Network relocates,
but there’s no romance or glamour attached to it.

“Live, from the Valley near Hollywood...”?


Andy Richter had a couple of Tweets about the Tribune Building and said The
> Tribune and WGN are moving. I could not find news articles about that.
> https://twitter.com/AndyRichter/status/913933948530634752
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
>
>> That game show announcer quote is exactly one of the reasons I wanted to
>> go there.   Price is Right; Carol Burnett; and I eventually went there for
>> Scottish Conan Guy and corden.
>>
>> But yeah the place is aging.   And I'm guessing it's easier to move ...
>> Unlike NYC.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017, 1:53 PM Kevin M.,  wrote:
>>
>>> It is prime real estate. Two decades ago, before they built a mall
>>> behind the adjacent Farmer’s Market, the property — while not worthless —
>>> wasn’t worth the hassle of selling. Now it is.
>>>
>>> It might be tough for people who don’t live in history-deprived Southern
>>> California to consider a building historic if it was only built a half
>>> century or so ago. But the “mid century modern” style is quickly
>>> evaporating in a part of the country it once dominated (Google the Stahl
>>> house to see perhaps the most iconic example of it). Mostly it is because
>>> the buildings weren’t designed with functionality at their core... they
>>> were designed to evoke the sorts of dreams people have about this place if
>>> they’ve never been. When you heard a game show announcer say “From
>>> Television City in Hollywood...” the dream expanded. But as John Lennon
>>> once crooned, the dream is over.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:23 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>>
 On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Adam Bowie 
 wrote:

> It's a trend in London too, although that is driven by some extreme
> property prices. The BBC sold its iconic Television Centre to developers.
> There is still some studio space, but also a lot of luxury homes on the
> site.
>
> Meanwhile ITV is working on redeveloping its London Studios which are
> on the Thames near Southbank. Inevitably, the planning application is for
> very limited studio facilities, and lots of luxury apartments.
>
> Both of these were relatively central London studio facilities.
>
> (Sidenote: there continues to be an insane property bubble in London
> for excessive numbers of luxury properties, many of which are almost
> certainly traded as part of international money laundering operations, or
> international million/billionaires.)
>
> The result of all this is that if you want to go to a TV recording in
> London, you often have to head out of town to studio complexes like 
> Elstree
> or Pinewood. 
>

 From reading the LA Times article, CBS is eventually going to sell
 Television City. CBS doesn't get much use out of it, the land will continue
 to be expensive, and they will be able to use the revenue to cover for a
 bad quarter. If they were determined to keep the building they would not
 have brought on a real estate brokerage firm. The building was built for
 black & white production and has to be frequently retrofitted for
 technology changes. The cost of upgrading to 4K might not be worth it to
 them.

 As far as getting the building historical status, a historic marker on
 the edge of the property should be enough. The real historic artifacts are
 the shows and they are still mostly accessible to the public. The building
 they were shot in is not as important.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Steve Timko 
That location will fetch top dollar. There's got to be a lot of places in
The Valley or Pasadena or wherever for much less.
Andy Richter had a couple of Tweets about the Tribune Building and said The
Tribune and WGN are moving. I could not find news articles about that.
https://twitter.com/AndyRichter/status/913933948530634752

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Doug Eastick  wrote:

> That game show announcer quote is exactly one of the reasons I wanted to
> go there.   Price is Right; Carol Burnett; and I eventually went there for
> Scottish Conan Guy and corden.
>
> But yeah the place is aging.   And I'm guessing it's easier to move ...
> Unlike NYC.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017, 1:53 PM Kevin M.,  wrote:
>
>> It is prime real estate. Two decades ago, before they built a mall behind
>> the adjacent Farmer’s Market, the property — while not worthless — wasn’t
>> worth the hassle of selling. Now it is.
>>
>> It might be tough for people who don’t live in history-deprived Southern
>> California to consider a building historic if it was only built a half
>> century or so ago. But the “mid century modern” style is quickly
>> evaporating in a part of the country it once dominated (Google the Stahl
>> house to see perhaps the most iconic example of it). Mostly it is because
>> the buildings weren’t designed with functionality at their core... they
>> were designed to evoke the sorts of dreams people have about this place if
>> they’ve never been. When you heard a game show announcer say “From
>> Television City in Hollywood...” the dream expanded. But as John Lennon
>> once crooned, the dream is over.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:23 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Adam Bowie 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It's a trend in London too, although that is driven by some extreme
 property prices. The BBC sold its iconic Television Centre to developers.
 There is still some studio space, but also a lot of luxury homes on the
 site.

 Meanwhile ITV is working on redeveloping its London Studios which are
 on the Thames near Southbank. Inevitably, the planning application is for
 very limited studio facilities, and lots of luxury apartments.

 Both of these were relatively central London studio facilities.

 (Sidenote: there continues to be an insane property bubble in London
 for excessive numbers of luxury properties, many of which are almost
 certainly traded as part of international money laundering operations, or
 international million/billionaires.)

 The result of all this is that if you want to go to a TV recording in
 London, you often have to head out of town to studio complexes like Elstree
 or Pinewood. 

>>>
>>> From reading the LA Times article, CBS is eventually going to sell
>>> Television City. CBS doesn't get much use out of it, the land will continue
>>> to be expensive, and they will be able to use the revenue to cover for a
>>> bad quarter. If they were determined to keep the building they would not
>>> have brought on a real estate brokerage firm. The building was built for
>>> black & white production and has to be frequently retrofitted for
>>> technology changes. The cost of upgrading to 4K might not be worth it to
>>> them.
>>>
>>> As far as getting the building historical status, a historic marker on
>>> the edge of the property should be enough. The real historic artifacts are
>>> the shows and they are still mostly accessible to the public. The building
>>> they were shot in is not as important.
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Doug Eastick 
That game show announcer quote is exactly one of the reasons I wanted to go
there.   Price is Right; Carol Burnett; and I eventually went there for
Scottish Conan Guy and corden.

But yeah the place is aging.   And I'm guessing it's easier to move ...
Unlike NYC.


On Fri, Sep 29, 2017, 1:53 PM Kevin M.,  wrote:

> It is prime real estate. Two decades ago, before they built a mall behind
> the adjacent Farmer’s Market, the property — while not worthless — wasn’t
> worth the hassle of selling. Now it is.
>
> It might be tough for people who don’t live in history-deprived Southern
> California to consider a building historic if it was only built a half
> century or so ago. But the “mid century modern” style is quickly
> evaporating in a part of the country it once dominated (Google the Stahl
> house to see perhaps the most iconic example of it). Mostly it is because
> the buildings weren’t designed with functionality at their core... they
> were designed to evoke the sorts of dreams people have about this place if
> they’ve never been. When you heard a game show announcer say “From
> Television City in Hollywood...” the dream expanded. But as John Lennon
> once crooned, the dream is over.
>
> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:23 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>> It's a trend in London too, although that is driven by some extreme
>>> property prices. The BBC sold its iconic Television Centre to developers.
>>> There is still some studio space, but also a lot of luxury homes on the
>>> site.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile ITV is working on redeveloping its London Studios which are on
>>> the Thames near Southbank. Inevitably, the planning application is for very
>>> limited studio facilities, and lots of luxury apartments.
>>>
>>> Both of these were relatively central London studio facilities.
>>>
>>> (Sidenote: there continues to be an insane property bubble in London for
>>> excessive numbers of luxury properties, many of which are almost certainly
>>> traded as part of international money laundering operations, or
>>> international million/billionaires.)
>>>
>>> The result of all this is that if you want to go to a TV recording in
>>> London, you often have to head out of town to studio complexes like Elstree
>>> or Pinewood. 
>>>
>>
>> From reading the LA Times article, CBS is eventually going to sell
>> Television City. CBS doesn't get much use out of it, the land will continue
>> to be expensive, and they will be able to use the revenue to cover for a
>> bad quarter. If they were determined to keep the building they would not
>> have brought on a real estate brokerage firm. The building was built for
>> black & white production and has to be frequently retrofitted for
>> technology changes. The cost of upgrading to 4K might not be worth it to
>> them.
>>
>> As far as getting the building historical status, a historic marker on
>> the edge of the property should be enough. The real historic artifacts are
>> the shows and they are still mostly accessible to the public. The building
>> they were shot in is not as important.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick review: The Opposition with Jordan Klepper

2017-09-29 Thread Steve Timko 
I think I'm going to check out of The Opposition for a month or so to see
if Klepper can't find his voice. Oddly enough, Klepper comes out of
improv, but he can't shake the frat boy persona. He is trying to play a
conspiracy nut but he comes across as Craig Kilborn's younger brother.
There's one or two solid jokes each show, but much of the rest of the show
is him floundering.
For me, the strongest part has been the two alt-right gay guys, a parody of
Milo Yiannopoulos. They are so over the top it's almost offensive. But they
were able to inhabit comedic characters. I wonder if they would work better
as hosts?
His interviews have been mixed. The Washington Post op-ed editor kept
cracking jokes and showed that humor should be left to the professionals.
Others were better but Klepper never clicked with any of them like Colbert
or Wilmore could.
Wlmore took a few months to find his legs and maybe Klepper should get the
same chance.

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:02 PM, 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I thought the second show was much weaker than the first. One thing I both
> appreciated and despaired of in the premiere was the introduction of the
> correspondents. While I liked getting to see who was going to be on the
> show, all of them seemed particularly unfunny (even moreso than Noah's
> current crop - Wood and Minhaj excepted). I'll give it the rest of the
> week, but Wilmore's show was far more entertaining, on point, relevant --
> especially given the events of this week -- and dedicated to giving us
> points of view we weren't seeing anywhere else in the mainstream media.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:54:15 AM UTC-7, Steve Timko wrote:
>>
>> The second show was better. More jokes instead of introductions. Still,
>> the character seems to be an I'll fit for Klepper.
>> The Roy Woods Jr. field piece on The Daily Show Tuesday night was the
>> best I have seen under Trevor Noah's tenure. Lettermanesque.
>>
>> Not sent from an iPhone.
>> On Sep 26, 2017, at 7:41 PM, PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am 100% sure Colbert stared at the top, The discussion on this page
>>> was all about how would he ever be able to maintain that high standard over
>>> time. As Steve points out Colbert had the advantage of having worked on the
>>> main elements of the character for some time on TDS.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:18 AM Jon Delfin < jond...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Steve Timko 
 wrote in part:

> I don’t remember Colbert’s first shows. He had the advantage of
> creating the character on “The Daily Show.”
>

 My memory may be playing tricks, but it seems to me Colbert started
 like a house afire. The first CR had the "truthiness" bit. They knew what
 they were doing from day one.

 I've always found a little bit of Klepper goes a long way. Plus, we've
 got Colbert and Meyers, and if TDS can maintain what they did Monday night,
 that will make the new show even less necessary.

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[TV orNotTV] SNL’s other Trump

2017-09-29 Thread Kevin M. 
I read the whole article, and my biggest takeaway was how much money
Darrell Hammond gets paid to do a private show.

Oh, and all the really sad and depressing stuff.

But mostly the private show money.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/2017/09/27/darrell-hammond-was-snls-best-donald-trump-and-its-best-impressionist-ever-so-what-went-wrong/
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Harry Shearer sues Vivendi for $125m

2017-09-29 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 

Moi, February 8th '17:
>
>
> Moi, October 16th 2016:
>>
>>
>> The conglom that's held the rights to *Spinal Tap* since the 80s fibbed 
>> about its profits, charges the actor... think amounts less than $100 AOT in 
>> the hundreds of millions... Deadline 
>> 
>>  
>> (link)
>>
>>
>> Guest, McKean, and Reiner joined the action Tuesday (2/7), and the sought 
> damages leap to $400mil... Billboard 
> ,
>  
> by way of THR (link)
>
> Vivendi continues to express surprise...
>
>
>
The judge kicked corporations held by Shearer, Reiner, and McKean off the 
case, keeping Guest, but left open the possibility that the first three 
could re-enter as individuals... she also tossed a fraud claim, which would 
soften any monetary blow against Vivendi... still, the conglom wonders if 
statutes of limitations could be in play...

Billboard 

 
(link)

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] OT: Los Angeles loses another rock station

2017-09-29 Thread Jim Ellwanger 


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> For the rest of us who want actual variety, we still have no terrestrial 
> choice. 

Have you heard KCSN 88.5 (the Cal State Northridge station)? They recently 
expanded their reach with a simulcast on KSBR 88.5 (the Saddleback College 
station), although they may still not be receivable where you are.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tony Romo to be CBS sports analyst

2017-09-29 Thread Kevin M. 
A friend who is more into sports than me shared this on the Book of Face

https://www.texasmonthly.com/article/let-us-now-praise-tony-romo-the-best-nfl-color-commentator/

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Jim Ellwanger 
wrote:

> I watched some of the Thursday night game on Amazon Prime with the "UK
> English" audio feed, which had soccer announcers Ross Dyer and Tommy Smyth
> on the call of the game. It had been advertised that it was specifically
> geared to international viewers who were not necessarily familiar with
> American football, although they really didn't do much explaining of the
> rules while I was watching (portions of the 1st and 2nd quarters). It was
> fun to hear some different voices and phrasings, but for next Thursday's
> game when "my" team is involved, I'll probably watch with the regular
> announcers.
>
>
> > On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> >
> > Having gotten Romo twice in four days due to the Packers schedule, I
> would say this take is more due to the fact Romo sounds genuinely excited
> doing his analysis, which can be interpreted as a fresh voice if you're not
> used to it (or a desire to neuter the little mongrel if you're not as much
> of a fan).
> >
> > On Sep 29, 2017 17:22, "Steve Timko"  wrote:
> > Well, I had this pop up in my timeline last night. I honestly have not
> paid attention to the broadcasts, other than to see if they were
> protesting. I did not have the volume up for Thursday night's game. There
> were several people who agreed with my Facebook friend and none in dissent.
> What does the group think? Is Romo doing a good job?
> >
> > 
> > ​
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> >
> > Moi, April 4th:
> >
> > He could just end up in the studio. The other week, Tony Gonzalez, the
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[TV orNotTV] OT: Los Angeles loses another rock station

2017-09-29 Thread Kevin M. 
100.3fm The Sound will become Christian station K-LOVE, because why the
fuck not?

I gave this radio station every opportunity to build upon the old KMET 94.7
legacy, but despite hiring some of the best DJs in the city, they played
the same 30 songs from the same 30 artists as K-Earth, KOLA, KLOS, KCAL,
and on and on. So to all of you who wanted background music in the waiting
room of your dentist's office, you have one less choice. For the rest of us
who want actual variety, we still have no terrestrial choice.

http://www.entercom.com/entercom-announces-agreement-to-divest-stations-in-los-angeles-san-diego-and-wilkes-barre-to-educational-media-foundation#.Wc7PUVtSzIV

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tony Romo to be CBS sports analyst

2017-09-29 Thread Jim Ellwanger 
I watched some of the Thursday night game on Amazon Prime with the "UK English" 
audio feed, which had soccer announcers Ross Dyer and Tommy Smyth on the call 
of the game. It had been advertised that it was specifically geared to 
international viewers who were not necessarily familiar with American football, 
although they really didn't do much explaining of the rules while I was 
watching (portions of the 1st and 2nd quarters). It was fun to hear some 
different voices and phrasings, but for next Thursday's game when "my" team is 
involved, I'll probably watch with the regular announcers.


> On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Joe Hass  wrote:
> 
> Having gotten Romo twice in four days due to the Packers schedule, I would 
> say this take is more due to the fact Romo sounds genuinely excited doing his 
> analysis, which can be interpreted as a fresh voice if you're not used to it 
> (or a desire to neuter the little mongrel if you're not as much of a fan).
> 
> On Sep 29, 2017 17:22, "Steve Timko"  wrote:
> Well, I had this pop up in my timeline last night. I honestly have not paid 
> attention to the broadcasts, other than to see if they were protesting. I did 
> not have the volume up for Thursday night's game. There were several people 
> who agreed with my Facebook friend and none in dissent. What does the group 
> think? Is Romo doing a good job?
> 
> 
> ​
> 
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
> 
> Moi, April 4th:
> 
> He could just end up in the studio. The other week, Tony Gonzalez, the 
> ex-Chief and Falcon, announced he was leaving "The NFL Today." (Philly dot 
> com link)   B
> 
> And today many outlets say he will, e.g. SI's Deitsch (link), who noted that 
> Simms' son, Chris, now with Bleacher Report, broke the news to him before CBS 
> Sports chief Sean McManus did...
> 
> B
> 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tony Romo to be CBS sports analyst

2017-09-29 Thread Joe Hass 
Having gotten Romo twice in four days due to the Packers schedule, I would
say this take is more due to the fact Romo sounds genuinely excited doing
his analysis, which can be interpreted as a fresh voice if you're not used
to it (or a desire to neuter the little mongrel if you're not as much of a
fan).

On Sep 29, 2017 17:22, "Steve Timko"  wrote:

> Well, I had this pop up in my timeline last night. I honestly have not
> paid attention to the broadcasts, other than to see if they were
> protesting. I did not have the volume up for Thursday night's game. There
> were several people who agreed with my Facebook friend and none in dissent.
> What does the group think? Is Romo doing a good job?
>
>
> ​
>
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:
>
>>
>> Moi, April 4th:
>>>
>>>
>>> He could just end up in the studio. The other week, Tony Gonzalez, the
>>> ex-Chief and Falcon, announced he was leaving
>>> 
>>> "The NFL Today." (Philly dot com link)   B
>>>
>>> And today many outlets say he will, e.g. SI's Deitsch
>> 
>> (link), who noted that Simms' son, Chris, now with Bleacher Report, broke
>> the news to him before CBS Sports chief Sean McManus did...
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Tony Romo to be CBS sports analyst

2017-09-29 Thread Steve Timko 
Well, I had this pop up in my timeline last night. I honestly have not paid
attention to the broadcasts, other than to see if they were protesting. I
did not have the volume up for Thursday night's game. There were several
people who agreed with my Facebook friend and none in dissent. What does
the group think? Is Romo doing a good job?


​

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Bob Jersey  wrote:

>
> Moi, April 4th:
>>
>>
>> He could just end up in the studio. The other week, Tony Gonzalez, the
>> ex-Chief and Falcon, announced he was leaving
>> 
>> "The NFL Today." (Philly dot com link)   B
>>
>> And today many outlets say he will, e.g. SI's Deitsch
> 
> (link), who noted that Simms' son, Chris, now with Bleacher Report, broke
> the news to him before CBS Sports chief Sean McManus did...
>
> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Send me your Erik Estrada questions by 4:15 p.m. Pacific time

2017-09-29 Thread Steve Timko 
He came in for an interview. He is grand marshal of Street Vibrations, a 
motorcycle rally.

⁣Not sent from an iPhone.​

On Sep 29, 2017, 12:20 AM, at 12:20 AM, Melissa P  
wrote:
>Why was he visiting your office?
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Steve Timko 
>wrote:
>> 
>> Nothing. No one had questions. He got friendly, very friendly, with a
>front office worker.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Kevin M. 
>wrote:
>>> So, what did you ask him?
>>> 
 On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:28 PM Steve Timko 
>wrote:
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Kevin M. 
It is prime real estate. Two decades ago, before they built a mall behind
the adjacent Farmer’s Market, the property — while not worthless — wasn’t
worth the hassle of selling. Now it is.

It might be tough for people who don’t live in history-deprived Southern
California to consider a building historic if it was only built a half
century or so ago. But the “mid century modern” style is quickly
evaporating in a part of the country it once dominated (Google the Stahl
house to see perhaps the most iconic example of it). Mostly it is because
the buildings weren’t designed with functionality at their core... they
were designed to evoke the sorts of dreams people have about this place if
they’ve never been. When you heard a game show announcer say “From
Television City in Hollywood...” the dream expanded. But as John Lennon
once crooned, the dream is over.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 10:23 AM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> It's a trend in London too, although that is driven by some extreme
>> property prices. The BBC sold its iconic Television Centre to developers.
>> There is still some studio space, but also a lot of luxury homes on the
>> site.
>>
>> Meanwhile ITV is working on redeveloping its London Studios which are on
>> the Thames near Southbank. Inevitably, the planning application is for very
>> limited studio facilities, and lots of luxury apartments.
>>
>> Both of these were relatively central London studio facilities.
>>
>> (Sidenote: there continues to be an insane property bubble in London for
>> excessive numbers of luxury properties, many of which are almost certainly
>> traded as part of international money laundering operations, or
>> international million/billionaires.)
>>
>> The result of all this is that if you want to go to a TV recording in
>> London, you often have to head out of town to studio complexes like Elstree
>> or Pinewood. 
>>
>
> From reading the LA Times article, CBS is eventually going to sell
> Television City. CBS doesn't get much use out of it, the land will continue
> to be expensive, and they will be able to use the revenue to cover for a
> bad quarter. If they were determined to keep the building they would not
> have brought on a real estate brokerage firm. The building was built for
> black & white production and has to be frequently retrofitted for
> technology changes. The cost of upgrading to 4K might not be worth it to
> them.
>
> As far as getting the building historical status, a historic marker on the
> edge of the property should be enough. The real historic artifacts are the
> shows and they are still mostly accessible to the public. The building they
> were shot in is not as important.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Tom Wolper 
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Adam Bowie  wrote:

> It's a trend in London too, although that is driven by some extreme
> property prices. The BBC sold its iconic Television Centre to developers.
> There is still some studio space, but also a lot of luxury homes on the
> site.
>
> Meanwhile ITV is working on redeveloping its London Studios which are on
> the Thames near Southbank. Inevitably, the planning application is for very
> limited studio facilities, and lots of luxury apartments.
>
> Both of these were relatively central London studio facilities.
>
> (Sidenote: there continues to be an insane property bubble in London for
> excessive numbers of luxury properties, many of which are almost certainly
> traded as part of international money laundering operations, or
> international million/billionaires.)
>
> The result of all this is that if you want to go to a TV recording in
> London, you often have to head out of town to studio complexes like Elstree
> or Pinewood. 
>

>From reading the LA Times article, CBS is eventually going to sell
Television City. CBS doesn't get much use out of it, the land will continue
to be expensive, and they will be able to use the revenue to cover for a
bad quarter. If they were determined to keep the building they would not
have brought on a real estate brokerage firm. The building was built for
black & white production and has to be frequently retrofitted for
technology changes. The cost of upgrading to 4K might not be worth it to
them.

As far as getting the building historical status, a historic marker on the
edge of the property should be enough. The real historic artifacts are the
shows and they are still mostly accessible to the public. The building they
were shot in is not as important.

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Send me your Erik Estrada questions by 4:15 p.m. Pacific time

2017-09-29 Thread Diner 
The late Robert B. Parker, author of the Spenser detective novels, told a 
story of how when he objected to Robert Urich being cast as his hero in the 
"Spenser For Hire" series, the producer told him that if he didn't like 
Urich, they would go with Erik Estrada instead. 
Parker replied "I think Urich will be just fine."


On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 6:28:11 PM UTC-4, Steve Timko wrote:
>
> Erik Estrada will visit my workplace. Send any pressing questions you have 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Send me your Erik Estrada questions by 4:15 p.m. Pacific time

2017-09-29 Thread Doug Eastick 
too late, but I wonder if he ever disliked the name Paunch.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Adam Bowie 
It's a trend in London too, although that is driven by some extreme
property prices. The BBC sold its iconic Television Centre to developers.
There is still some studio space, but also a lot of luxury homes on the
site.

Meanwhile ITV is working on redeveloping its London Studios which are on
the Thames near Southbank. Inevitably, the planning application is for very
limited studio facilities, and lots of luxury apartments.

Both of these were relatively central London studio facilities.

(Sidenote: there continues to be an insane property bubble in London for
excessive numbers of luxury properties, many of which are almost certainly
traded as part of international money laundering operations, or
international million/billionaires.)

The result of all this is that if you want to go to a TV recording in
London, you often have to head out of town to studio complexes like Elstree
or Pinewood.


Adam

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:

> For 3/4 of a billion dollars, they are considering it
>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cbs-television-
> city-20170928-story,amp.html
>
> NBC Burbank was my home base, but I have fond memories of TV City, too. I
> spun the Price Is Right wheel backstage, watched several tapings of Craig
> Ferguson’s Late Late Show, and slept in a soap opera actress’ dressing
> room. That said, the facility desperately needs an upgrade. Many of the
> stages are not sized for the sort of large-scale tv that people expect now.
> The electrical system is stone-age, and the roof leaks.
>
> I would join a campaign to make it a historic landmark if it would help,
> but it didn’t work for NBC Burbank. Time marches on.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Send me your Erik Estrada questions by 4:15 p.m. Pacific time

2017-09-29 Thread Melissa P 
Why was he visiting your office?

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:59 PM, Steve Timko  wrote:
> 
> Nothing. No one had questions. He got friendly, very friendly, with a front 
> office worker.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:52 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>> So, what did you ask him?
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 3:28 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>> Erik Estrada will visit my workplace. Send any pressing questions you have 
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[TV orNotTV] CBS to sell Television City?

2017-09-29 Thread Kevin M. 
For 3/4 of a billion dollars, they are considering it

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cbs-television-city-20170928-story,amp.html

NBC Burbank was my home base, but I have fond memories of TV City, too. I
spun the Price Is Right wheel backstage, watched several tapings of Craig
Ferguson’s Late Late Show, and slept in a soap opera actress’ dressing
room. That said, the facility desperately needs an upgrade. Many of the
stages are not sized for the sort of large-scale tv that people expect now.
The electrical system is stone-age, and the roof leaks.

I would join a campaign to make it a historic landmark if it would help,
but it didn’t work for NBC Burbank. Time marches on.
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