[TV orNotTV] Next to get rebooted: Cagney & Lacey

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Played by Sarah Drew (about to leave "Grey's Anatomy") and Michelle Hurd. 
Transplanted to LA. Ordered to pilot at CBS.

Nellie 

 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: "SVU" pinch-hitter back with D!ck Wolf

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Moi, March 6th:
>
>
> "Wonder Woman" costar Connie Nielsen, who stepped into the procedural's 
> 2006/07 season while Mariska Hargitay had her first child, joins Wolf's 
> upcoming "FBI" for CBS as the agent in charge... Variety 
> 
>  
> (link)
>
>
> Ebonée Noel, from that Shakespeare-inspired ABC dud "Still Star-Crossed", 
added as a criminal analyst hired for her smarts (not that she doesn't look 
good)... Nellie 

 
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[TV orNotTV] Joy Behar apology for critique of VP Pence

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Deadline 

 
(link): A month ago, the "View" panelist likened Pence's counsel from 
Jesus, reported by Omarosa in that "Big Brother" conversation, to "mental 
illness." After the backlash, she called the Veep with her regrets, which 
he related on "Hannity"...

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crash your system... I have the auto-install blocked, as anybody with a 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] American Idol ratings

[PGage]

Well, now you are comparing the second episode of AI, which goes to the
quality of the show, which as I said is not very good. Their rating went
from 2.3 to 1.8 (about 22% loss). The Voice on the other hand is at 2.3,
down only one tenth from its premier.

Even do, AI was the second highest rated network show Monday night, and
that’s not nothing. If it continues to drop it may become a liability, but
I imagine if it stays a reasonable second place most nights it will have
justified itself.

Again, my point is more than ever tv ratings have to be understood in
context, not as absolutes. Probably the best matrix would be something like
what share of tvs tuned to network shows were tuned to the target show.

I have not been able to complete my data set of ratings for similar
programs over last 10 years, but so far most programs are down severely,
especially in last 2 years. It just doesn’t mean anything anymore to say a
program’s ratings are down compared to last year, without saying if the
decline is more or less than other programs.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:17 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> All that money brought them 3.4 million fewer viewers than The Voice.
>
>
> http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-monday-march-12-2018
> /
>
> Not sent from an iPhone
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:12 AM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> I don’t really care about AI (though I will confess to watching it), but
>> this is yet another example of how important it is to contextualize TV
>> ratings this year. The 2.3 rating was more than twice as high as what ABC
>> has been running in that slot this season, the highest rated show for ABC
>> in that slot in 4 years, the highest rated show of Sunday night, and was
>> roughly equivalent to the rating of the first episode of The Voice this
>> season (2.4). The 2.3 Rating exceeded industry predictions (most had it
>> coming in at under 2.0). AI functioned as a strong lead in to a new show on
>> ABC (can’t remember the name and don’t feel like looking it up), which gave
>> it a good number. The rating was 20% lower than the rating of the last
>> season premier of AI on Fox two years ago, which is in the ballpark of the
>> ratings declined shown by programs like the Daytona 500 and World Series
>> over that period.
>>
>> Which is to say, in the 2018 TV environment, a 2.3 rating is very good,
>> and probably worth whatever ABC paid for AI.
>>
>> The real question to me is will AI be able to maintain ratings near this
>> level (not sure what the typical season ratings curve looks like for AI).
>> Even by the standards of this kind of show I thought it was corny as hell.
>> I was surprise how well Richie did, and he would have an interesting take
>> on becoming a pop star, as he was one of those manufactured pop (R) stars
>> who actually had a really nice voice. I am not a huge Katie Perry fan, but
>> I thought at least she would be interesting (nope). I don’t know anything
>> about the country singer (I had never heard of the country singer on The
>> Voice when it premiered either, but found him to be both an interesting
>> personality and one of the better male voices in current popular music;
>> none of that seemed true of the AI guy - Luke something).
>>
>> The first episode did remind me of the difference between The Voice and
>> AI. While in many ways The Voice is a better show, it seems to produce
>> winners who are mediocre in the actual music business - partly I think now
>> because it seems to cull from opening acts, lounge acts, state fair acts.
>> The winner tends to be one of the best acts that has already proved it can
>> not appeal to a major fraction of the pop music audience. AI at least
>> presents itself as culling from acts that have not yet really had a chance
>> - so while they are often more raw and undeveloped, there seems to be a
>> chance that occasionally they will find a real pop music star (and,
>> occasionally, they have - which is more than The Voice can say).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:43 PM Steve Timko < steveti...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They had a 2.3 in the demo and TV by the Numbers called that solid.
>>> That's a lot of money to pay for 2.3. He said Seacrest had a low profile.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-march-11-2018/
>>>
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] American Idol ratings

[Steve Timko]

All that money brought them 3.4 million fewer viewers than The Voice.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-monday-march-12-2018/

⁣Not sent from an iPhone​

On Mar 13, 2018, 7:12 AM, at 7:12 AM, PGage  wrote:
>I don’t really care about AI (though I will confess to watching it),
>but
>this is yet another example of how important it is to contextualize TV
>ratings this year. The 2.3 rating was more than twice as high as what
>ABC
>has been running in that slot this season, the highest rated show for
>ABC
>in that slot in 4 years, the highest rated show of Sunday night, and
>was
>roughly equivalent to the rating of the first episode of The Voice this
>season (2.4). The 2.3 Rating exceeded industry predictions (most had it
>coming in at under 2.0). AI functioned as a strong lead in to a new
>show on
>ABC (can’t remember the name and don’t feel like looking it up), which
>gave
>it a good number. The rating was 20% lower than the rating of the last
>season premier of AI on Fox two years ago, which is in the ballpark of
>the
>ratings declined shown by programs like the Daytona 500 and World
>Series
>over that period.
>
>Which is to say, in the 2018 TV environment, a 2.3 rating is very good,
>and
>probably worth whatever ABC paid for AI.
>
>The real question to me is will AI be able to maintain ratings near
>this
>level (not sure what the typical season ratings curve looks like for
>AI).
>Even by the standards of this kind of show I thought it was corny as
>hell.
>I was surprise how well Richie did, and he would have an interesting
>take
>on becoming a pop star, as he was one of those manufactured pop (R)
>stars
>who actually had a really nice voice. I am not a huge Katie Perry fan,
>but
>I thought at least she would be interesting (nope). I don’t know
>anything
>about the country singer (I had never heard of the country singer on
>The
>Voice when it premiered either, but found him to be both an interesting
>personality and one of the better male voices in current popular music;
>none of that seemed true of the AI guy - Luke something).
>
>The first episode did remind me of the difference between The Voice and
>AI.
>While in many ways The Voice is a better show, it seems to produce
>winners
>who are mediocre in the actual music business - partly I think now
>because
>it seems to cull from opening acts, lounge acts, state fair acts. The
>winner tends to be one of the best acts that has already proved it can
>not
>appeal to a major fraction of the pop music audience. AI at least
>presents
>itself as culling from acts that have not yet really had a chance - so
>while they are often more raw and undeveloped, there seems to be a
>chance
>that occasionally they will find a real pop music star (and,
>occasionally,
>they have - which is more than The Voice can say).
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:43 PM Steve Timko 
>wrote:
>
>> They had a 2.3 in the demo and TV by the Numbers called that solid.
>That's
>> a lot of money to pay for 2.3. He said Seacrest had a low profile.
>>
>>
>>
>http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-march-11-2018
>> /
>>
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[TV orNotTV] ABC renews four reality series

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Variety 

 
(link): Three we all recognize, largely: "The Bachelor," "DWTS," and "AFV."

The fourth I don't: "Game show 'Child Support 
,'
 
with Fred Savage and Ricky Gervais [he created and is an exec], premiered 
in January, averaging a 0.7 [rating in the primary adult demo] and 3.7 
million viewers in its first season." It's basically "Are You As Smart As 
One Of Our Panel Of Youngsters?"  Did I report on its pickup?

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Fuller House showrunner is gone... guess why?

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Two co-execs of the show, with familiar series on their résumés, were 
promoted... Variety 

 
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[TV orNotTV] Enjoy at least some of March Madness® in VR

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Something else Turner developed thanks to its long-running deal with CBS 
and the NCAA... a new app, now obtainable "in Facebook’s Oculus Store and 
the Google Play store"... apparently only selected games will be available 
through the Elite Eight™, and all of the Final Four®... $3 per game, or $20 
for the whole package...  Variety 

 
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Re: [TV orNotTV] American Idol ratings

[PGage]

I don’t really care about AI (though I will confess to watching it), but
this is yet another example of how important it is to contextualize TV
ratings this year. The 2.3 rating was more than twice as high as what ABC
has been running in that slot this season, the highest rated show for ABC
in that slot in 4 years, the highest rated show of Sunday night, and was
roughly equivalent to the rating of the first episode of The Voice this
season (2.4). The 2.3 Rating exceeded industry predictions (most had it
coming in at under 2.0). AI functioned as a strong lead in to a new show on
ABC (can’t remember the name and don’t feel like looking it up), which gave
it a good number. The rating was 20% lower than the rating of the last
season premier of AI on Fox two years ago, which is in the ballpark of the
ratings declined shown by programs like the Daytona 500 and World Series
over that period.

Which is to say, in the 2018 TV environment, a 2.3 rating is very good, and
probably worth whatever ABC paid for AI.

The real question to me is will AI be able to maintain ratings near this
level (not sure what the typical season ratings curve looks like for AI).
Even by the standards of this kind of show I thought it was corny as hell.
I was surprise how well Richie did, and he would have an interesting take
on becoming a pop star, as he was one of those manufactured pop (R) stars
who actually had a really nice voice. I am not a huge Katie Perry fan, but
I thought at least she would be interesting (nope). I don’t know anything
about the country singer (I had never heard of the country singer on The
Voice when it premiered either, but found him to be both an interesting
personality and one of the better male voices in current popular music;
none of that seemed true of the AI guy - Luke something).

The first episode did remind me of the difference between The Voice and AI.
While in many ways The Voice is a better show, it seems to produce winners
who are mediocre in the actual music business - partly I think now because
it seems to cull from opening acts, lounge acts, state fair acts. The
winner tends to be one of the best acts that has already proved it can not
appeal to a major fraction of the pop music audience. AI at least presents
itself as culling from acts that have not yet really had a chance - so
while they are often more raw and undeveloped, there seems to be a chance
that occasionally they will find a real pop music star (and, occasionally,
they have - which is more than The Voice can say).




On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:43 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> They had a 2.3 in the demo and TV by the Numbers called that solid. That's
> a lot of money to pay for 2.3. He said Seacrest had a low profile.
>
>
> http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-march-11-2018
> /
>
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RE: [TV orNotTV] American Idol ratings

[Doug Fields]

You don’t necessarily **have** to do it regularly (although that’s absolutely a 
great habit to get into).  But that’s always one of the first things you should 
try whenever you experience any odd, seemingly unexplainable behavior.  And the 
fact that it only happens in Firefox, and no other browser, just reinforces the 
likelihood that it’s an issue isolated to that particular browser...such as 
cache issues.

Doug Fields
Tampa, FL


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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 8:37 PM
To: TVorNotTV 
Subject: Re: [TV orNotTV] American Idol ratings


Steve Timko, to moi, today (3/12):
Have you cleared your cache?

I forget to do that regularly. I found an add-on to do it with one click to the 
toolbar...I should try that again...

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