Re: [TV orNotTV] AGT wasting time with cheesy bits

[Kevin M.]

I recognize these words, but without any context, the words make very
little sense in this order.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 2:41 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I guess Sonic Drive-Ins probably paid for it, and I'd love me some tater
> tots if I can get to their nearest location, but last week, Sofia agreed to
> a lie-detector test while seated on the tater-tot throne, after having said
> something obviously phony about Simon, only to have Howie ask if anyone in
> the audience interested her...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywkiSgjl5Q (link; hat-tip Access H'wood)
>
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[TV orNotTV] AGT wasting time with cheesy bits

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

I guess Sonic Drive-Ins probably paid for it, and I'd love me some tater 
tots if I can get to their nearest location, but last week, Sofia agreed to 
a lie-detector test while seated on the tater-tot throne, after having said 
something obviously phony about Simon, only to have Howie ask if anyone in 
the audience interested her...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TywkiSgjl5Q (link; hat-tip Access H'wood)
B

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[TV orNotTV] Temporary Nexstar reprieve

[Brad Beam]

“You can have NewsNation back on the dish - for now.”
https://www.wowktv.com/national-news/nexstar-and-directv-agree-to-temporarily-return-tv-stations-newsnation-to-directv/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Drew Waves the White Flag

[Jim Ellwanger]

TV listings (online, and on cable boxes and other devices) always lag behind 
programming changes by up to 24 hours.

Of course, once upon a time, all you had was TV Guide, which would lag behind 
programming changes by up to two weeks. (Okay, okay, you also had the daily 
listings in the newspaper, which could be updated within 24-48 hours, depending 
on the newspaper's production process.)


> On Sep 17, 2023, at 11:59 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
> 
> They might have already been digitally distributed to stations. Good luck 
> getting them to not televise new content already paid for 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 10:03 AM Mark Jeffries  > wrote:
>> She says that the shows she taped last week will not air this week and she 
>> won't start up again until the resolution of the WGA strike--however, the 
>> cable box guide still shows new episodes for tomorrow (remember, her show is 
>> divided into two half-hours) and the rest of the week:
>> 
>> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/drew-barrymore-daytime-talk-show-not-returning-strike-1235725739/
>> 
>> For the record, her scheduled guests tomorrow are a menopause expert and a 
>> cooking segment--the rest of the week has the "CBS Mornings" gang (not 
>> affected by either strike) on Tuesday, Norah O'Donnell (not affected by 
>> either strike) on Wednesday, her hair stylist doing a makeover and a "Queer 
>> Eye" Fab Fiver (not affected by either strike) on Thursday and a TikToker on 
>> Friday.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Drew Waves the White Flag

[Kevin M.]

They might have already been digitally distributed to stations. Good luck
getting them to not televise new content already paid for

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 10:03 AM Mark Jeffries 
wrote:

> She says that the shows she taped last week will not air this week and she
> won't start up again until the resolution of the WGA strike--however, the
> cable box guide still shows new episodes for tomorrow (remember, her show
> is divided into two half-hours) and the rest of the week:
>
>
> https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/drew-barrymore-daytime-talk-show-not-returning-strike-1235725739/
>
> For the record, her scheduled guests tomorrow are a menopause expert and a
> cooking segment--the rest of the week has the "CBS Mornings" gang (not
> affected by either strike) on Tuesday, Norah O'Donnell (not affected by
> either strike) on Wednesday, her hair stylist doing a makeover and a "Queer
> Eye" Fab Fiver (not affected by either strike) on Thursday and a TikToker
> on Friday.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Jann Wenner defends...

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

In Windows and similar OSes, the context-menu options (right-click menu) 
for GG web, and I'm guessing Gmail too, include "Paste as plain text" 
(keyboard shortcut ctrl-shift-V). IDK how that would work on a phone.
B

PGage, Sept 17th:

Yikes! Apologies for the non standard font. I typed that in my notepad and 
copied and pasted. Have done that before without this overpowering font 
issue.

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[TV orNotTV] Drew Waves the White Flag

[Mark Jeffries]

She says that the shows she taped last week will not air this week and she 
won't start up again until the resolution of the WGA strike--however, the 
cable box guide still shows new episodes for tomorrow (remember, her show 
is divided into two half-hours) and the rest of the week:

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/drew-barrymore-daytime-talk-show-not-returning-strike-1235725739/

For the record, her scheduled guests tomorrow are a menopause expert and a 
cooking segment--the rest of the week has the "CBS Mornings" gang (not 
affected by either strike) on Tuesday, Norah O'Donnell (not affected by 
either strike) on Wednesday, her hair stylist doing a makeover and a "Queer 
Eye" Fab Fiver (not affected by either strike) on Thursday and a TikToker 
on Friday.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Jann Wenner defends...

[Mark Jeffries]

It should be pointed out that most of the criticism about Hall inductions
in recent years have been over the Hall not inducting heavy metal bands,
which does fit with Yawn's tastes, considering that RS and the rock elte
considered metal beneath them (as did the "free form" DJs, who would've
rather played folk singers or jazz cats than metalers, which is why
low-rated free form got replaced by AOR, which played what the
teen-and-twentysomething male audience considered "rock"). The metalheads
would also complain if the hall was considering rappers, Dolly Parton, ABBA
or Whitney Houston, more or less saying that they should be in a popular
music hall of fame, not a RAWK Hall of Fame.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 8:31 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The article in the Newhouse-owned *Star-Ledger*, who moved out of Newark
> years ago, is paywalled and can't be gifted like, say, the NYT, but a
> discussion of the book with Wenner at a church in Montclair, NJ (Colbert's
> hometown) scheduled for the 28th was cancelled, with ticketholders getting
> refunds... what's not blocked, is a V article where the Rock & Roll Hall of
> Fame Foundation has also sacked Wenner from its board (he is not on the
> separate museum's board)...
>
> https://variety.com/2023/music/news/jann-wenner-removed-from-rock-hall-of-fame-comments-black-female-musicians-1235725503/
>  (link)
> Hopefully this finally gets him out of the process of determining who gets
> inducted.
> B
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 9:30:03 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:
>
>> Wenner and RS have earned their high place in pop culture history. But,
>> also he leans into and embodies almost every horrible stereotype of white
>> male Boomers. I was born at the very tail end of that generation, and the
>> idea that Mick Jagger is an articulate philosopher of what the generation
>> was about, but Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Joni Mitchell
>> and Janis Joplin “didn’t measure up to that same historical standard” is
>> 100% horseshit.
>>
>> I mean, dude literally says (when asked if his close friendship with
>> Jagger biased his evaluation of his work)  “I confess: I probably went
>> too far. So what? I’m entitled.”
>>
>> What the actual fuck?  I Can forgive someone for not being able to
>> control their own bias - that is human. I can not forgive someone who
>> doesn’t even try, because, well, they can’t be bothered, and they
>> fundamentally believe their biases are actually closer to the truth than
>> anyone else’s.
>>
>> He confesses to allowing interview subject to edit and revise his
>> interviews prior to publication. He denies that his ass kissing led to any
>> distortion or subversion of journalistic standards.
>>
>> My anger at this crap runs deep; in adolescence and young adulthood I
>> thought Rolling Stone was the definitive, honest, real journalistic account
>> of contemporary culture. It wasn’t until my late 20s early 30s that I began
>> to question the honesty and integrity of those guys, and how they had led
>> us astray. The bullshit culture continues after Wenner’s retirement
>> reflected in weaknesses in some recent stories we have discussed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 at 5:09 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ...among other things, the fact that all the members of the "Masters,"
>>> the rock legends list he interviewed in his years at Rolling Stone covered
>>> in a new memoir, are white men...
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/arts/jann-wenner-the-masters-interview.html?campaign_id=9=edit_nn_20230916_id=102917=the-morning_id=5286999_id=144913=1_id=521f71863e00ec6b64320af7d97a6662
>>>  (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Jann Wenner defends...

[PGage]

Yikes! Apologies for the non standard font. I typed that in my notepad and
copied and pasted. Have done that before without this overpowering font
issue.

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 at 6:29 PM PGage  wrote:

> Wenner and RS have earned their high place in pop culture history. But,
> also he leans into and embodies almost every horrible stereotype of white
> male Boomers. I was born at the very tail end of that generation, and the
> idea that Mick Jagger is an articulate philosopher of what the generation
> was about, but Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Joni Mitchell
> and Janis Joplin “didn’t measure up to that same historical standard” is
> 100% horseshit.
>
> I mean, dude literally says (when asked if his close friendship with
> Jagger biased his evaluation of his work)  “I confess: I probably went
> too far. So what? I’m entitled.”
>
> What the actual fuck?  I Can forgive someone for not being able to control
> their own bias - that is human. I can not forgive someone who doesn’t even
> try, because, well, they can’t be bothered, and they fundamentally believe
> their biases are actually closer to the truth than anyone else’s.
>
> He confesses to allowing interview subject to edit and revise his
> interviews prior to publication. He denies that his ass kissing led to any
> distortion or subversion of journalistic standards.
>
> My anger at this crap runs deep; in adolescence and young adulthood I
> thought Rolling Stone was the definitive, honest, real journalistic account
> of contemporary culture. It wasn’t until my late 20s early 30s that I began
> to question the honesty and integrity of those guys, and how they had led
> us astray. The bullshit culture continues after Wenner’s retirement
> reflected in weaknesses in some recent stories we have discussed.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 at 5:09 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> ...among other things, the fact that all the members of the "Masters,"
>> the rock legends list he interviewed in his years at Rolling Stone covered
>> in a new memoir, are white men...
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/arts/jann-wenner-the-masters-interview.html?campaign_id=9=edit_nn_20230916_id=102917=the-morning_id=5286999_id=144913=1_id=521f71863e00ec6b64320af7d97a6662
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Jann Wenner defends...

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Jay Penske's company is puzzling... they own Variety and Hollywood 
Reporter, for which they only charge for "VIP" memberships and/or their 
print versions, and Deadline, at which I haven't found much of anything for 
a fee (also true of SheKnows, primarily aimed at young parents, but with 
lots of *People*-ish showbiz content), yet they also own RS and Billboard, 
who are a lot more strict with the $ub$criptions...
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Re: [TV orNotTV] SortaTV: Jann Wenner defends...

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

The article in the Newhouse-owned *Star-Ledger*, who moved out of Newark 
years ago, is paywalled and can't be gifted like, say, the NYT, but a 
discussion of the book with Wenner at a church in Montclair, NJ (Colbert's 
hometown) scheduled for the 28th was cancelled, with ticketholders getting 
refunds... what's not blocked, is a V article where the Rock & Roll Hall of 
Fame Foundation has also sacked Wenner from its board (he is not on the 
separate museum's board)...
https://variety.com/2023/music/news/jann-wenner-removed-from-rock-hall-of-fame-comments-black-female-musicians-1235725503/
 (link)
Hopefully this finally gets him out of the process of determining who gets 
inducted.
B

On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 9:30:03 PM UTC-4 PGage wrote:

> Wenner and RS have earned their high place in pop culture history. But, 
> also he leans into and embodies almost every horrible stereotype of white 
> male Boomers. I was born at the very tail end of that generation, and the 
> idea that Mick Jagger is an articulate philosopher of what the generation 
> was about, but Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Curtis Mayfield, Joni Mitchell 
> and Janis Joplin “didn’t measure up to that same historical standard” is 
> 100% horseshit.
>
> I mean, dude literally says (when asked if his close friendship with 
> Jagger biased his evaluation of his work)  “I confess: I probably went 
> too far. So what? I’m entitled.”
>
> What the actual fuck?  I Can forgive someone for not being able to control 
> their own bias - that is human. I can not forgive someone who doesn’t even 
> try, because, well, they can’t be bothered, and they fundamentally believe 
> their biases are actually closer to the truth than anyone else’s.
>
> He confesses to allowing interview subject to edit and revise his 
> interviews prior to publication. He denies that his ass kissing led to any 
> distortion or subversion of journalistic standards. 
>
> My anger at this crap runs deep; in adolescence and young adulthood I 
> thought Rolling Stone was the definitive, honest, real journalistic account 
> of contemporary culture. It wasn’t until my late 20s early 30s that I began 
> to question the honesty and integrity of those guys, and how they had led 
> us astray. The bullshit culture continues after Wenner’s retirement 
> reflected in weaknesses in some recent stories we have discussed.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 at 5:09 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> ...among other things, the fact that all the members of the "Masters," 
>> the rock legends list he interviewed in his years at Rolling Stone covered 
>> in a new memoir, are white men...
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/arts/jann-wenner-the-masters-interview.html?campaign_id=9=edit_nn_20230916_id=102917=the-morning_id=5286999_id=144913=1_id=521f71863e00ec6b64320af7d97a6662
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Drew Audience Members Kicked Out for Wearing WGA Pins

[JW]

 > One difference this go round is likely that late night programs are much
> less profitable than they were 15 years ago, so likely less pressure to
> return.

Another (huge) difference is that the actors are also on strike, so even if
a late-night show went back into production, the roster of available guests
wouldn't be all that appealing.

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