Re: [TV orNotTV] And Then There Were Five: Matthew Perry Dead

2024-05-23 Thread Kevin M.
Did the doctor(s) who overmedicated/killed Michael Jackson ever face
punishment?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 7:54 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The DEA and LAPD are jointly investigating Perry's death...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/matthew-perry-death-dea-lapd-criminal-investigation-ketamine-1235905358/
>  (link)
> B
>
> Steve Timko, to PGage, Kevin M and Joe Hass, 12/17/2023:
>
> A doctor gives an explanation
>
> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8uqHXvB/
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Zillow Gone Wild - The TV Show

2024-05-22 Thread Kevin M.
A little Jack McBrayer goes a long way. I mean, I like the guy, but we
binge-watched the first three episodes, and at a certain point his
enthusiasm for the exotic homes he was touring not only felt inauthentic
but it bordered on being sarcastic.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Benson/Stabler reunion still in works

2024-05-21 Thread Kevin M.
You’re not wrong, but there’s no need to promote it

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On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 3:05 PM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> One might say CBS has made a mint off of identical procedurals with
> identically indistinguishable characters solving the same crimes in the
> same way over and over for decades.
>
> --Dave Sikula
>
> On Monday, May 20, 2024 at 3:59:56 PM UTC-7 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> Except there is no depth to either character. They haven’t grown or
>> evolved beyond how they were originally conceived decades ago. Sure, the
>> actors have matured/aged, but aside from hairstyles (or lack of hair), why
>> would anyone stop to watch a carbon copy of what they’ve already seen?
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 3:56 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Despite "...Organized Crime"'s move to Peacock, Hargitay told V at an
>>> NBCU FYC Emmy showcase...
>>>
>>> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/mariska-hargitay-benson-stabler-reunion-law-and-order-svu-organized-crime-1236010634/
>>>  (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Benson/Stabler reunion still in works

2024-05-20 Thread Kevin M.
Except there is no depth to either character. They haven’t grown or evolved
beyond how they were originally conceived decades ago. Sure, the actors
have matured/aged, but aside from hairstyles (or lack of hair), why would
anyone stop to watch a carbon copy of what they’ve already seen?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


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> Despite "...Organized Crime"'s move to Peacock, Hargitay told V at an NBCU
> FYC Emmy showcase...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/mariska-hargitay-benson-stabler-reunion-law-and-order-svu-organized-crime-1236010634/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: 'Prank Panel' Writer Sues Knoxville for Tasting and Injuring Him

2024-05-19 Thread Kevin M.
You lost me at Knoxville

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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 8:30 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> The heading should say "Tasing." I know, the other way is more provocative.
>
> On Sunday, May 19, 2024 at 10:29:37 AM UTC-5 Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
>> The former "Jackass" star has been sued for $3M by one Daniel Curry,
>> creative partner of Johnny Knoxville's co-host Eric Andre (that guy with
>> the weird show on Adult Swim) and a "creative consultant" and "segment
>> producer" (reality TV for writer) on the ABC show, claiming that Knoxville
>> tased him on set while both were in a full run, causing severe injuries
>> when his body locked up and he fell--this was during the first week of
>> taping and the injuries were written on the accident report to be less
>> severe--Knoxville then sent threatening texts to Curry and Andre stayed
>> away from Knoxville off-camera:
>>
>>
>> https://www.thewrap.com/johnny-knoxville-sued-tasing-eric-andre-writer-prank-panel/
>>
>> Curry is also suing producers ITV America and Jimmy Kimmel's
>> Kimmelot--unsurprisingly, ABC has not renewed "The Prank Panel."
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[TV orNotTV] RIP Slap Maxwell

2024-05-17 Thread Kevin M.
Dabney Coleman was 92-years-old. To me, he’s been 92 for the last 40 years.

https://apnews.com/article/dabney-coleman-dead-95858897e5604502b37f6717c6ab991c?user_email=ceca0ba284fb24bc4c0c0fd80d30e042d4b6e2d6b1e8ff93ed3dcd7be32310c4_medium=APNews_Alerts_source=Sailthru_AP_campaign=NEWSALERTS_05/15_DC_term=AP%20News%20Alerts


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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Dark Matter

2024-05-16 Thread Kevin M.
The premise has been done better by countless shows in recent years. It
isn’t bad; it’s just derivative.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Beloved UK Panel Game Finally Coming to U.S.

2024-05-16 Thread Kevin M.
They will infuse the show with youth. The youth has too much contempt for
itself to watch themselves. It will go the way of DL Hughley’s short-lived
CNN series.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:38 PM Jon Delfin  wrote:

> my wish list: John Fugelsang, Sam Seder, Janeane Garofalo, Francesca
> Fiorentini, Hasan Minhaj, Lewis Black
>
> my understanding of reality: none of these people will ever get anywhere
> near this show
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 3:28 PM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>> "Have I Got News for You," the long-running UK comedy news panel quiz (66
>> cycles over 34 years on the BBC), which has been rumored to have an
>> American version coming for years (to give you an idea of how long it's
>> been, at one point Norm MacDonald was being considered for host), will
>> finally be coming in a U.S. version this fall to CNN (no date announced,
>> although it's believed it'll get a Saturday night slot next to the repeat
>> of HBO's "Real Time with Collie Molester"):
>>
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cnn-orders-bbc-comedy-quiz-show-have-i-got-news-for-you-1235899928/
>>
>> No indication either of host or anchor panelists, although the UK version
>> has been going without a regular host for years now.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] MSNBC's Alleged Progressivism Tearing Apart NBC News?

2024-05-16 Thread Kevin M.
I can’t stomach Olberman, who did much to discredit MSNBC as a legitimate
news organization. I don’t consider it both-sidesism to allege a liberal
slant to the network’s broadcasts, but I also don’t consider most of their
programming to be journalistic in nature. They are op-ed shows talking
about the news instead of reporting it. Is Olberman claiming otherwise?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:14 AM Mark Jeffries 
wrote:

> On his podcast this morning, Keith Olbermann tore apart this article (he
> must've received a gift link, since he claims to have cancelled his NYT
> subscription over the paper's boss PO'd over Biden's refusal to give him an
> interview and the general "both sidesing" at the NYT) and claimed that it
> could've been written when he was at MSNBC--he also said that no one
> complaints about CNBC's alleged rightwing bias--read the article for
> yourself:
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/15/business/media/nbc-msnbc-trump-biden.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU0.18bB.p72RHP3Pj9N4=url-share
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Re: [TV orNotTV] ABC Fall Annotated

2024-05-15 Thread Kevin M.
Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 10:02 AM Mark Jeffries 
wrote:

> Only  5 1/2 hours of scripted and only one sitcom, but no game shows.
> Strange.  Here we go:
>
> Monday
> 8 p.m.: ESPN Monday Night Football (select weeks, simulcast on The
> Worldwide Leader with the Manningcast on the Deuce--no indication how many
> games and what will air the other weeks)
>

My mother in law wants none of the games on ABC so she can watch Jeopardy
those nights


>
> Tuesday
> 8 p.m.: Dancing With the Stars (simulcast pn Disney+, we believe)
> 10 p.m.: HIGH POTENTIAL--In this Americanization of a French series,
> Kaitlin "Sweet Dee" Olson plays a mom with an exceptional talent for
> solving crimes. OK. In-house from ABC Signature.
>
> Wednesday
> 8 p.m.: THE GOLDEN BACHELORETTE--About as much a new show as "Celebrity
> Jeopardy!" and "Celebrity Wheel" were, but hey. The obvious extension of
> this version of the franchise, of course, but remember how the marriage for
> "The Golden Bachelor" turned out. From Warners Horizon, of course.
> 9:30 p.m.--Abbott Elementary (the only sitcom in the fall lineup--"The
> Connors" will wait for mid-season for their last season)
> 10 p.m.: SCAMANDA--It's that true crime everybody loves--based on a
> podcast, it's the story of Amanda Riley, a good Christian mom who lies
> through her teeth on social media and has a secret to hide. Officially from
> the news department, but actually produced by the reality arm of Lionsgate.
>
> THE NEW TGIT WITH RYAN MURPHY:
> 8 p.m.: 9-1-1
> 9 p.m.: DOCTOR ODYSSEY--Joshua Jackson from "Dawson's Creek" plays a
> cruise ship doctor., or what "The Lve Boat" would be like if Doc
> Brinker did actual medical work. From Murphy's once and future home at
> Disney's 20th.
> 10 p.m.: Grey’s Anatomy (the last remnant of Shondaland on the Thursday
> lineup)
>
> Friday
> 8 p.m.: Shark Tank
> 9 p.m.: 20/20
>
> Saturday
> 7:30 p.m.: Saturday Night College Football
>
> Sunday
> 7 p.m.: America’s Funniest Home Videos
> 8 p.m.: The Wonderful World of Disney (once again, you could watch those
> movies on Disney+ with no commercials, if you're on the commercial-free
> tier)
>
> Only the CW is left now.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Nicolas Cage puts on the Spidey suit

2024-05-14 Thread Kevin M.
Nicolas “I’ll do literally anything on camera for a paycheck” Cage

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On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 6:59 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> He'll star in the Prime Video series *Noir*, based on Marvel's *Spider-Man
> Noir* comic, about a 1930s private eye who once wore the togs... it'll
> first air on MGM+, né Epix, before moving to the streamer...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/spider-man-noir-nicolas-cage-amazon-1235898168/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Judge Judy Suing Tabloid Over...

2024-05-13 Thread Kevin M.
Does someone want to point out to her that, regardless of any particular
erroneous tabloid story, her character could not possibly be portrayed as
worse than she actually is?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 3:33 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Judy Sheindlin, who now does her TV judging for Amazon's Freevee while her
> previous syndicated series reruns forever, is suing the owner of several
> tabloids, including the National Enquirer, for a story that appeared in
> InTouch Weekly claiming that she is seeking a new trial for the Menendez
> brothers:
>
> https://www.thewrap.com/judge-judy-intouch-lawsuit-menendez-brothers/
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[TV orNotTV] Semi-OT: RIP David Sanborn

2024-05-13 Thread Kevin M.
Frequently sat in with Paul Shaffer and his band, wrote Tom Snyder’s CBS
theme song. Famously heard accompanying David Bowie on “Young Americans.”
Won some Grammys, too.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-sanborn-jazz-saxophonist-dead-obituary-1235019601/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Not really TV, but a Jenny McCarthy rant

2024-05-12 Thread Kevin M.
That creeped me out.

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On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 8:05 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Remember how Jenny McCarthy studied at the University of Google and
> decided that vaccines caught autism in her son?
> Here is that son.
> https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLq1PFqG/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Breaking News: Beauty Pageants harmful to mental health

2024-05-12 Thread Kevin M.
Yeah, saw that, too. I have one friend from college who has been heavily
into pageant management and another friend whose daughter was a pageant
winner. Both have gone radio silent on social media.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 3:29 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> Miss Teen USA resigned two days later.
>
>
> https://www.salon.com/2024/05/09/scandal-in-the-pageant-world-why-miss-usa-and-miss-teen-usa-both-quit/
>
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 6:22 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> In other news, water is wet.
>>
>>
>> https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/former-miss-usa-2023-alleges-toxic-work-environment/story?id=110103496
>>
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Breaking News: Beauty Pageants harmful to mental health

2024-05-12 Thread Kevin M.
In other news, water is wet.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/former-miss-usa-2023-alleges-toxic-work-environment/story?id=110103496


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Israeli Eurovision Contestant Target for Protestors?

2024-05-11 Thread Kevin M.
Backstage drama involving the Dutch

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-68993726?at_bbc_team=editorial_format=image_campaign=Social_Flow_link_type=web_link_medium=social_link_origin=BBC_News_campaign_type=owned_ptr_name=linked_in_page_link_id=3CD0835A-0F88-11EF-A7D1-A15769AFA27A


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On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:10 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:

> Yes - all kinds of shared footage.
>
> In the past, even the Olympics would have been bought by Eurovision for
> onward sharing by member stations across Europe (Warner Bros Discovery has
> it these days, although they sub licence footage to many national PSBs
> around Europe as required by law).
>
> On Fri, 10 May 2024, 16:24 Mark Jeffries,  wrote:
>
>> And doesn't the EBU provide shared news and events coverage with its
>> member broadcasters?  That's where the "Eurovision" name comes from (and
>> the blast of Charpentier's "Te Deum" that begins and ends Eurovision
>> broadcasts).
>>
>> Mark Jeffries
>> spotligh...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 9:34 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>>
>>> Eurovision is very expensive, although I'm never entirely sure why.
>>> Costs vary, but somewhere around $20m+ is probably fairly close. And from
>>> what I can tell, that cost is essentially borne by the host country - the
>>> host being the winner of the previous year's competition (the UK stepped in
>>> to host for Ukraine last year having finished 2nd in 2022).
>>>
>>> But I'm not sure that it's true to say that it would never happen if
>>> proposed today. The ratings are insanely good in most countries across
>>> Europe. In the UK it's about 10m, which placed it third in 2023 behind only
>>> the coronation (which isn't something that comes around that much) and the
>>> finale of Happy Valley. And in some European countries it is taken *much*
>>> more seriously than it is in the UK.
>>>
>>> And it has a bunch of things that continue to work in 2024. Years ago,
>>> they transitioned from juries being the sole arbiters in each country to
>>> phone lines and now online voting. That means audience participation. And
>>> there's the reality-show style lead-ups in many countries that go about
>>> choosing that country's entry (Not everyone does this. Someone in the UK
>>> just *picks* our entrant these days.)
>>>
>>> Eurovision itself is much bigger than just the Song Competition. There
>>> are other shared rights that member countries get access to. And these
>>> days, a lot of classical music created by various state broadcasters around
>>> Europe is shared this way. For example, many across Europe will watch the
>>> New Year's Day Concert from Vienna which plays a lot of Strauss waltzes
>>> (e.g. The Blue Danube) every year. The BBC Proms are shared across Europe
>>> too.
>>>
>>> As for the booing - I'm sure that they have really good sound mixers on
>>> the programme that means that they can easily turn up or down sections of
>>> the audience that are doing anything that they don't like. For a show like
>>> Eurovision, you would probably have lots of microphones scattered across
>>> the audience that you can mix between. In Premier League football fixtures,
>>> sections of the crowd will sometimes sing songs with words that can't be
>>> broadcast, and the sound mixer will dip the relevant mics and bring up
>>> others. And I'm sure they can "augment" the crowd mix if needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:57 PM Mark Jeffries 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In an interesting piece behind a paywall, the Ankler said that the very
>>>> expensive to run Eurovision song contest has kept going due only to
>>>> tradition and that if someone would propose it today, it would be turned
>>>> down in the wink of an eye. Of course, it was a much different beast in
>>>> 1958, with everyone in formal wear singing in front of a house orchestra in
>>>> a concert hall and no dancers or flashy special effects--and only seven
>>>> contestants.  And it was reflecting the mainstream western European adult
>>>> sensibility of easy listening music (none of that American rock and roll).
>>>> Even in 1974, when ABBA basically began their international career at
>>>> Eurovision, the production on their hit song "Waterloo" was understated
>>>> compared to the overblown spectacle Eurovision has become--and the fall of
>>>> the 

[TV orNotTV] Entertainment reporter who loved everything unconditionally passes away.

2024-05-10 Thread Kevin M.
San Rubin was one of those guys who got invited to every junket because he
worshipped all celebrities and all media fixtures.

>From the article it sounds like he passed away on air or preparing to go on
air. I’m not sure either is true.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/sam-rubin-dead-ktla-entertainment-reporter-1235998979/amp/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Israeli Eurovision Contestant Target for Protestors?

2024-05-10 Thread Kevin M.
I love and respect the younger generation choosing to speak out and protest
perceived wrongdoings; agree or disagree with them, they want to see a
change. The roadblock is that I don’t think any of the problems plaguing
our planet will be cured by protesting a singing competition. And the
backslide is that people on both sides cannot or will not distinguish
between common people and the regimes that control the region, which is how
the language becomes prejudicial and incendiary.

I’d like to see the protesters and demonstrators take to their nation’s
capitals. Or, if they really want to see change in Gaza, actually go to
Gaza. College campus encampments are more about the perception of doing
something than actually doing something. They’re on a perfectly manicured
tree-lined quad wedged between a Subway and a Starbucks… not exactly Kent
State.

Only other point I’ll mention is the cancellation of graduation ceremonies
is especially brutal for this generation, as many were denied their high
school graduations four years ago due to Covid restrictions. In our
collective abundance of caution, these kids aren’t getting the recognition
they deserve, and that’s going to have a deep cultural impact.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 6:57 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> In an interesting piece behind a paywall, the Ankler said that the very
> expensive to run Eurovision song contest has kept going due only to
> tradition and that if someone would propose it today, it would be turned
> down in the wink of an eye. Of course, it was a much different beast in
> 1958, with everyone in formal wear singing in front of a house orchestra in
> a concert hall and no dancers or flashy special effects--and only seven
> contestants.  And it was reflecting the mainstream western European adult
> sensibility of easy listening music (none of that American rock and roll).
> Even in 1974, when ABBA basically began their international career at
> Eurovision, the production on their hit song "Waterloo" was understated
> compared to the overblown spectacle Eurovision has become--and the fall of
> the eastern Soviet bloc has made a big difference in what the contest has
> become.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 8:38 AM John Edwards  wrote:
>
>> The EBU did apparently take steps to ensure that any booing last night
>> wasn't audible on the broadcast, and isn't above sweetening or inserting
>> sounds of cheering to ensure that any booing doesn't go out on TV. Social
>> media last night indicated that there was some booing, but I'm not sure if
>> it was as pronounced as during the dress rehearsal on Wednesday.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 7:42 PM Mark Jeffries 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Singer Eden Golan has been told not to leave her hotel in Malmo, Sweden,
>>> except for rehearsals and performances, as throngs outside are protesting
>>> Israel's presence in the annual song contest--the song was originally
>>> entitled "October Rain," but the Eurovision bosses rejected it as too
>>> controversial, so it was rewritten and retitled "Hurricane" (video of song
>>> in link)--Golan's rehearsal yesterday was interrupted by boos from the
>>> audience, although no boos were evident during today's semi-final heat
>>> telecast (I'm assuming that Sweden's SVT is not sweetening the audience
>>> response like some American reality comps)--she made it into the Saturday
>>> finals after an all-viewer vote (the finals are at 3 p.m. ET in the U.S. on
>>> Peacock), as did the Irish rock band Bambie Thug, who had to change their
>>> costumes on Tuesday's semi-final heat when it was found that Celtic writing
>>> on the costumes said "CEASE FIRE" and "FREEDOM FOR PALESTINE":
>>>
>>> https://www.thewrap.com/eurovision-protests-israel-eden-golan-hurricane/
>>>
>>> The European Broadcasting Union of pubcasters who organizes Eurovision
>>> has always maintained that the contest is apolitical and that Israel's
>>> pubcasters are valid members of the organization, but politics has always
>>> butt into the proceedings over the years (like the Ukraine winning in 2022
>>> after the Russian invasion) and with the panels of industry people voting
>>> on Saturday along with viewers, it will be interesting to see how Israel
>>> does and if the EBU will get hit with either coddling Zionism or supporting
>>> anti-Semitism.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Schmigadoon!' To Go on Stage in DC

2024-05-09 Thread Kevin M.
I liked the first few episodes but the concept wore thin … it might work
better as a one and done play instead of a series

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:38 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> The AppleTV+ musical theater satire gets a stage treatment of its first
> season parody of the Rodgers & Hammerstein school of musicals in January at
> the Kennedy Center in Washington--creator/showrunner Cisco Paul and
> choreographer Christopher Gattelli are involved, no indication yet how many
> of the original star-studded cast will appear:
>
>
> https://playbill.com/article/schmigadoon-stage-adaptation-will-make-world-premiere-at-kennedy-center?ueid=1a6970c7161a29a6b25c50cf34913fa6_source=Sailthru_medium=email_campaign=Stage%20Whisperer%20-%20May%208%2C%202024_term=Subscription%20List%20-%20Stage%20Whisperer
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Office US" sequel greenlighted at Peacock

2024-05-09 Thread Kevin M.
I suspect there might be more interaction with the “documentary” crew in
the new series… it started to happen towards the end of the original US
Office and I the creative team seemed to like it

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 11:00 AM M-D November  wrote:

> I'm glad it's more of a spiritual sequel than an outright reboot - the
> press says it's the same documentary crew from "The Office" - so I'm
> inclined to give it a chance.
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 6:39:47 PM UTC-4 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>> The streamer, exclusive home of the original, picks up the latest effort
>> from execs Greg Daniels and Michael Koman, where the docu crew that
>> epitomized Dunder Mifflin moves on to a "dying historic Midwestern
>> newspaper and the publisher trying to revive it with volunteer reporters."
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/the-office-follow-up-peacock-series-order-1235893670/
>>  (link)
>> B
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Unfrosted

2024-05-06 Thread Kevin M.
I do remember laughing at moments, but I just finished it and now I can’t
tell you what I laughed at. If there was a script, it was not readily
apparent. The movie should’ve been named “Who is that? They look familiar,
but I can’t remember their name.” Honestly the constant cameos distracted
me from the “plot” (sarcastic air quotes)

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Sugar

2024-05-05 Thread Kevin M.
Um… I was not expecting the last minute of the most recent episode

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 9:47 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Many have tried creating a noir detective set in the present day; few have
> succeeded. After two episodes, Sugar seems to succeeding. My only gripe so
> far is that Sugar’s backstory isn’t as interesting to me as the writers
> want it to be. But the main mystery is a good one.
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Pimp My Ride" making a comeback

2024-05-04 Thread Kevin M.
One of the car-centric YouTube channels I watch from time to time found one
of the vehicles that had been “pimped” by MTV back in the day. While they
did get it running again, pimping (or any sort of extensive customization)
makes long-term maintenance on a vehicle complicated and repairs
prohibitively expensive. But it did look better pimped, so I suppose if
that all that matters…

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> Maybe. My money's on Paramount+ getting it directly.
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/C6bnzjhxvxL/?utm_source=ig_embed_rid=f683a7ca-b503-4f52-b1f7-eca2dec1b482
>  (hat-tip Chris Burch
> <https://www.nj.com/entertainment/2024/05/classic-mtv-reality-show-making-comeback-host-teases-a-reboot.html?e=fc9dbcff200418991e7cd21fa0902da0=64b87703175ad5f401019b99_source=Sailthru_medium=email_campaign=Newsletter_pm_edition%202024-05-03_term=Newsletter_am_pm>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Surprise! CBS Fall Annotated

2024-05-02 Thread Kevin M.
I would watch the heck out of NCIS Babies, especially if the characters are
all Muppets

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 3:30 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> I saw the NCIS: Origins entry and thought that CBS had such a hit with
> Young Sheldon that they’re trying Young NCIS or NCIS Babies.
>
> If FX or HBO was going to make a new Matlock with Kathy Bates in the lead
> I’d give it a try. She can carry a show like that. At CBS it won’t have any
> edge or spark.
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 6:24 PM Joe Hass  wrote:
>
>> BuzzerBlog has Drew in the center square, with no identification of who's
>> hosting.
>>
>>
>> https://www.buzzerblog.com/2024/05/02/cbs-announces-revival-of-hollywood-squares/
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2024, 17:12 Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>>
>>> It seemed to me that I had heard had Paramount was not going to do an
>>> upfront presentation this year--and so CBS' fall lineup is out, with shows
>>> delayed from last year by the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes and mostly familiar
>>> IP--this is according to The Wrap, all times ET, new shows ALL CAPS:
>>>
>>> MONDAY
>>> 8:00 p.m. – The Neighborhood
>>> 8:30 p.m.  -  POPPA'S HOUSE--As we said last year, "Two generations of
>>> Damon Wayans, with Damon pere as a radio talk show host and Damon fils as
>>> his somewhat grounded son, who wants to achieve his dreams and responsibly
>>> raise his family.  Yeah, it's a multi-cam sitcom." Damon Jr. will have two
>>> shows in the CBS lineup with "Raid the Cage" returning.
>>> 9:00 p.m. – NCIS
>>> 10:00 p.m. – NCIS: ORIGINS--Austin Stowell plays Leroy Jethro Gibbs as
>>> he learns how to be an NCIS agent. Mark Harmon is narrating.
>>>
>>> DICK WOLF TUESDAY
>>> 8:00 p.m. – FBI
>>> 9:00 p.m. – FBI: International
>>> 10:00 p.m. – FBI: Most Wanted
>>>
>>> WEDNESDAY FALL
>>> 8:00-9:30 p.m. – Survivor
>>> 9:30 p.m.-11:00 p.m. – THE SUMMIT--This Americanization of an Australian
>>> series (on the Nine Network, not Paramount's Network 10) where a cash
>>> jackpot is divided into the backpacks of a group of contestants as they are
>>> sent to climb a mountain in New Zealand. Whoever makes it to the top gets
>>> the money. From the French format factory Banijay.
>>> WEDNESDAY WINTER
>>> 8:00 p.m. – The Price is Right at Night
>>> 9:00 p.m. – Raid the Cage (no indication if they're still going to tape
>>> on the set of the Mexican version again or move the show onto the Sony lot)
>>> 10:00 p.m. – HOLLYWOOD SQUARES--Hello stars! This is only the second
>>> prime time network airing of the evergreen game show now owned by CBS (it
>>> ran for nine months in 1968 on its original network NBC). Sitting in the
>>> chair where Peter Marshall and Tom Bergeron have sat (and yes, John
>>> Davidson and Bowser) will be--Drew Barrymore. Hoo boy (no regular panelists
>>> announced).
>>> WEDNESDAY SPRING
>>> 8:00-9:30 p.m. – Survivor
>>> 9:30 p.m.-11:00 p.m. – The Amazing Race (only cycle for the year)
>>>
>>> THURSDAY
>>> 8:00 p.m. – GEORGIE & MANDY'S FIRST MARRIAGE--This "Young Sheldon"
>>> spinoff is what it says on the tin--the story of the marriage of Sheldon's
>>> friends (played by Montana Jordan and Emily Osment). In the "Big Bang
>>> Theory" finale, Sheldon revealed that they were divorced, although all
>>> hopes for the series are that it will be after five seasons and 100
>>> episodes (if that is still a thing). From Chuck Lorre and Warners and it's
>>> a multi-cam ("Young Sheldon" was one-camera, no laugh track, even if some
>>> detractors on social media claimed that it did have a laugh track).
>>> 8:30 p.m. – Ghosts
>>> 9:00 p.m. – MATLOCK--As we said last year, "Just replace Andy Griffith
>>> with Kathy Bates and you get the idea."
>>> 10:00 p.m. – Elsbeth
>>>
>>> FRIDAY FALL
>>> 8:00 p.m. – S.W.A.T.
>>> 9:00 p.m. – Fire Country
>>> 10:00 p.m. – Blue Bloods (the end--sorry Grandma)
>>> FRIDAY SPRING
>>> 8:00 p.m. – NCIS: Sydney
>>> 9:00 p.m. – Fire Country
>>> 10:00 p.m. – S.W.A.T.
>>>
>>> SATURDAY:
>>> 8-10 - Reruns
>>> 10 p.m. - 48 Hours
>>>
>>> SUNDAY
>>> 7:00 p.m. – 60 Minutes
>>> 8:00 p.m. – Tracker (how many more jokes will Colbert make about this
>>> show?)
>>> 9:00 p.m. – The Equalizer
>>> 10:00 p.m. – WATSON--as in Sherlo

Re: [TV orNotTV] New all cartoon digital subchannel coming next month

2024-05-02 Thread Kevin M.
If it is on YouTubeTV, there might finally be something on YouTubeTV that I
watch

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 12:12 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> It’s from Weigel and is part of the MeTV brand. Jerry Beck is part of it
> and here’s the press release along with his comments. The new channel will
> launch on June 24.
>
> https://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/here-comes-metv-toons/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dan Schneider denies toxic-workplace claims as docu on Nick situation airs

2024-05-01 Thread Kevin M.
Arvid’s buddy is dying the documentary producers … he doesn’t have a leg to
stand on. He already apologized for offenses… you can’t apologize for
something, then sue stating you didn’t do the something. He’s gonna get
laughed out of court.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/dan-schneider-sues-defamation-over-quiet-on-set-docuseries-1235888146/


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On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 4:04 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> It wasn't just at Nick, said Mayim Bialik, on her podcast...
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/04/mayim-bialik-quiet-on-set-claims-abuse-nickelodeon-1235887779/
>  (link,
> with 'toob of the episode)
> B
>
> Kevin M, April 9th:
>
> We sat through the new episode today… it wasn’t an episode; it was a few
> interviews with people. The first four episodes deserved to stand-alone.
> This week’s episode didn’t feature in depth journalism. To me, the logical
> next step was to confront the people who would go on to hire the convicted
> child sex predator on more TV shows AFTER he was convicted. Because that’s
> the story… the deeply flawed system that not only allows criminal behavior
> but endorses it. Instead this week’s episode was just to invite back people
> previously interviewed to discuss the “impact” of the documentary and how
> it was received on social media. They’d have been better off just letting
> the documentary speak for (and stand for) itself.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Game Show Production 101?

2024-04-30 Thread Kevin M.
The Whammies ate my homework!

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 8:54 AM M-D November  wrote:

> "Kevin, you get in here right now and explain this grade of "ZONK" in
> TVP-205!"
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2024 at 2:22:59 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> “You can accept your grade and walk away… or you can choose what’s behind
>> door number three!!!”
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:30 AM M-D November  wrote:
>>
>>> If it doesn't involve spinning a big wheel to determine your final
>>> grade, I'm not interested.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:25:18 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. wrote:
>>>
>>>> CSU LA to offer courses on how to get jobs on game shows.
>>>>
>>>> I called Dick Clark Productions. I was hired five hours later. Worked
>>>> on roughly a dozen different game shows in five years.
>>>>
>>>> I’ll bet they don’t offer me a job teaching the class.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://laist.com/news/education/tv-game-shows-are-hot-so-california-state-university-los-angeles-created-classes-to-get-students-jobs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Game Show Production 101?

2024-04-29 Thread Kevin M.
“You can accept your grade and walk away… or you can choose what’s behind
door number three!!!”

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 10:30 AM M-D November  wrote:

> If it doesn't involve spinning a big wheel to determine your final grade,
> I'm not interested.
>
> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 11:25:18 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> CSU LA to offer courses on how to get jobs on game shows.
>>
>> I called Dick Clark Productions. I was hired five hours later. Worked on
>> roughly a dozen different game shows in five years.
>>
>> I’ll bet they don’t offer me a job teaching the class.
>>
>>
>> https://laist.com/news/education/tv-game-shows-are-hot-so-california-state-university-los-angeles-created-classes-to-get-students-jobs
>>
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Brooke Baldwin gets to do what not many in news have

2024-04-27 Thread Kevin M.
Baldwin finally offers details of her CNN departure

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/brooke-baldwin-found-her-voice-leaving-cnn

I remain unimpressed by her talents, but I remain even less impressed by
her bosses.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 2:07 PM Henry Fung  wrote:

> Remember they sidelined her for the election as well, and from what I
> could tell it was not at her request. No surprise she is moving on.
>
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 2:05 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:50 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Announce her departure, slated for April.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/02/16/brooke-baldwin-leaving-cnn-vpx.cnn
>>>  (link)
>>>
>>
>> She brings nothing of note to her broadcasts. She’s neither bad nor
>> good... she’s barely memorable, and won’t merit a footnote in broadcast
>> journalism.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> B
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[TV orNotTV] Semi OT: Is “SciFi World” a scam?

2024-04-25 Thread Kevin M.
https://scifiworld.org/

I started to see posts about a new science fiction “museum” soon to open in
Santa Monica, but the more I see of it, the worse it seems.

Photos of the replica sets look like they were built by my middle
schoolers. Posts on their social offer cryptic things like “a big name
comic will be at our opening night party” but not reveal who. Oh, and they
brought in an “expert” to determine whether their building is haunted… ugh.
It all feels… well… half-assed and a little loopy. I hope I’m wrong and it
turns out to be great.

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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[TV orNotTV] Game Show Production 101?

2024-04-25 Thread Kevin M.
CSU LA to offer courses on how to get jobs on game shows.

I called Dick Clark Productions. I was hired five hours later. Worked on
roughly a dozen different game shows in five years.

I’ll bet they don’t offer me a job teaching the class.

https://laist.com/news/education/tv-game-shows-are-hot-so-california-state-university-los-angeles-created-classes-to-get-students-jobs


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: New York appeals court torn over reversing Weinstein convictoin

2024-04-25 Thread Kevin M.
Yeah, the appellate court made the only decision they could make, and the
trial judge allowed the stupidity, but the prosecution never should have
done it.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 4:49 PM PGage  wrote:

> I agree with the Court of Appeals, but I don’t think the fault lies with
> the NY Prosecutors, but the trial judge. Even then, it was a close call,
> and the Appeals court was closely and bitterly divided. I do think when
> things are that close the decision should be in favor of the defendant.
>
> Weinstein will still do his time in California, even if they decide not to
> retry him in NY.
>
>
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 at 2:53 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Could somebody get the NY prosecutors a refresher course in proper
>> courtroom procedure? Either that or make them wear shirts in public with
>> the words “I help sexual predators get out of prison” printed on them?
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Front page" at V... the panel ruled 4-3 for Weinstein, finding that the
>>> NY judge prejudicially allowed women to testify about allegations that
>>> weren't in the original case (he remains jailed, as an appeal is
>>> planned)... the issue of "prior bad acts" also led to the overturning of
>>> Bill Cosby's case, tho on different grounds...
>>>
>>> https://variety.com/2024/film/news/harvey-weinstein-rape-conviction-overturned-new-york-1235981890/
>>>  (link)
>>> Next stop, California, where the defense plans to make a comparable case
>>> for tossing that conviction...
>>>
>>> https://variety.com/2024/film/news/harvey-weinstein-prison-overturned-conviction-explained-1235982257/
>>>  (link)
>>> B
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:54:16 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly four years after Harvey Weinstein was convicted
>>>> of rape
>>>> <https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-harvey-weinstein-sexual-assault-ca-state-wire-us-news-67057b46fcd3f1183cf6a699a399c886>
>>>>  and
>>>> sent to prison, New York’s highest court appeared torn at oral arguments
>>>> Wednesday about potentially overturning the landmark #MeToo-era verdict.
>>>>
>>>> Weinstein’s lawyers urged the state’s Court of Appeals to dismiss the
>>>> disgraced movie mogul’s 2020 conviction, arguing that the trial judge,
>>>> James Burke, trampled his right to a fair trial
>>>> <https://apnews.com/article/legal-proceedings-new-york-city-crime-metoo-manhattan-f20f473c61d348719cf7b269932419ca>
>>>>  with
>>>> pro-prosecution rulings that turned the trial into “1-800-GET-HARVEY.”
>>>>
>>>> “It was his character that was on trial. It wasn’t the evidence that
>>>> was on trial,” Weinstein's lawyer Arthur Aidala told the seven-member court
>>>> in Albany.
>>>>
>>>> Weinstein, 71, was convicted of a criminal sex act for forcibly
>>>> performing oral sex on a TV and film production assistant in 2006 and rape
>>>> in the third degree for an attack on an aspiring actress in 2013. He was 
>>>> sentenced
>>>> to 23 years in prison
>>>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/weinstein-sentenced-to-23-years-for-sexual-assaults>.
>>>> Last year, he was convicted in Los Angeles
>>>> <https://apnews.com/article/harvey-weinstein-verdict-los-angeles-rape-trial-1a3a9db4e4589a9e0fb03214bc01fecf>
>>>>  of
>>>> another rape and sentenced to an additional 16 years in prison
>>>> <https://apnews.com/article/harvey-weinstein-sentencing-los-angeles-c287c5fe310c1f125086207be2916a3e>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> A lawyer for the Manhattan district attorney’s office, which prosecuted
>>>> Weinstein’s New York case, told the appeals court that Burke's rulings were
>>>> proper and the conviction should stand.
>>>>
>>>> Weinstein’s lawyers want a new trial, but only for the criminal sexual
>>>> act charge. They argue the rape charge can’t be retried because it involves
>>>> alleged conduct outside the statute of limitations. Reversing the verdict
>>>> would reopen a painful chapter in America’s reckoning with sexual
>>>> misconduct by powerful figures. The court is unlikely to rule immediately.
>>>>
>>

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: New York appeals court torn over reversing Weinstein convictoin

2024-04-25 Thread Kevin M.
Could somebody get the NY prosecutors a refresher course in proper
courtroom procedure? Either that or make them wear shirts in public with
the words “I help sexual predators get out of prison” printed on them?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 2:48 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> "Front page" at V... the panel ruled 4-3 for Weinstein, finding that the
> NY judge prejudicially allowed women to testify about allegations that
> weren't in the original case (he remains jailed, as an appeal is
> planned)... the issue of "prior bad acts" also led to the overturning of
> Bill Cosby's case, tho on different grounds...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/film/news/harvey-weinstein-rape-conviction-overturned-new-york-1235981890/
>  (link)
> Next stop, California, where the defense plans to make a comparable case
> for tossing that conviction...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/film/news/harvey-weinstein-prison-overturned-conviction-explained-1235982257/
>  (link)
> B
>
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:54:16 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> NEW YORK (AP) — Nearly four years after Harvey Weinstein was convicted
>> of rape
>> <https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-harvey-weinstein-sexual-assault-ca-state-wire-us-news-67057b46fcd3f1183cf6a699a399c886>
>>  and
>> sent to prison, New York’s highest court appeared torn at oral arguments
>> Wednesday about potentially overturning the landmark #MeToo-era verdict.
>>
>> Weinstein’s lawyers urged the state’s Court of Appeals to dismiss the
>> disgraced movie mogul’s 2020 conviction, arguing that the trial judge,
>> James Burke, trampled his right to a fair trial
>> <https://apnews.com/article/legal-proceedings-new-york-city-crime-metoo-manhattan-f20f473c61d348719cf7b269932419ca>
>>  with
>> pro-prosecution rulings that turned the trial into “1-800-GET-HARVEY.”
>>
>> “It was his character that was on trial. It wasn’t the evidence that was
>> on trial,” Weinstein's lawyer Arthur Aidala told the seven-member court in
>> Albany.
>>
>> Weinstein, 71, was convicted of a criminal sex act for forcibly
>> performing oral sex on a TV and film production assistant in 2006 and rape
>> in the third degree for an attack on an aspiring actress in 2013. He was 
>> sentenced
>> to 23 years in prison
>> <https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/weinstein-sentenced-to-23-years-for-sexual-assaults>.
>> Last year, he was convicted in Los Angeles
>> <https://apnews.com/article/harvey-weinstein-verdict-los-angeles-rape-trial-1a3a9db4e4589a9e0fb03214bc01fecf>
>>  of
>> another rape and sentenced to an additional 16 years in prison
>> <https://apnews.com/article/harvey-weinstein-sentencing-los-angeles-c287c5fe310c1f125086207be2916a3e>
>> .
>>
>> A lawyer for the Manhattan district attorney’s office, which prosecuted
>> Weinstein’s New York case, told the appeals court that Burke's rulings were
>> proper and the conviction should stand.
>>
>> Weinstein’s lawyers want a new trial, but only for the criminal sexual
>> act charge. They argue the rape charge can’t be retried because it involves
>> alleged conduct outside the statute of limitations. Reversing the verdict
>> would reopen a painful chapter in America’s reckoning with sexual
>> misconduct by powerful figures. The court is unlikely to rule immediately.
>>
>> If the Court of Appeals were to rule in Weinstein's favor, he would
>> remain locked up because of his California conviction. Weinstein did not
>> attend the arguments but was said to be monitoring a livestream from the
>> state prison where he is incarcerated, Mohawk Correctional Facility, about
>> 100 miles (160 kilometers) northwest of Albany.
>>
>> Allegations against Weinstein, the once powerful and feared studio boss
>> behind such Oscar winners as “Pulp Fiction” and “Shakespeare in Love,” 
>> ushered
>> in the #MeToo movement
>> <https://apnews.com/arts-and-entertainment-general-news-2a32a7bc96a0756d7699e0fb690731b8>.
>> His New York trial drew intense publicity, with protesters chanting
>> “rapist” outside the courthouse
>> <https://apnews.com/article/new-york-trials-harvey-weinstein-manhattan-courts-4535e9bf0c8affed775236f58e6be4d5>
>> .
>>
>> Weinstein maintains his innocence. He contends any sexual activity was
>> consensual.
>>
>> His voice booming at times, Aidala argued that Burke swayed the trial
>> with two key decisions: allowing three women to testify about allegations
>> that weren't part of the case, and granting prosecutors permiss

Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Terry Carter

2024-04-23 Thread Kevin M.
One thing that put me off the Galactica reboot was that I appreciated how
many African Americans were featured in the original cast, and in the
reboot they all but vanished. Carter took what should’ve been a minor role
and made it prominent through shear force of acting talent. He took words
that weren’t important (and in many cases not well written) and made them
important. That’s a skill.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 7:29 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Versatile as an actor and filmmaker, he was Col. Tigh on the original
> "Battlestar Galactica" and Sgt Broadhurst on "McCloud"... and directed a
> 1988 PBS biography of Duke Ellington... and served both television and
> motion-picture Academies... 95.
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/people-news/terry-carter-dead-battlestar-galactica-mccloud-1235979429/
>  (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Bill Hayes

2024-04-23 Thread Kevin M.
She was one of my favorite MacGyver villains

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 3:10 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> Hope, IRL Kristian Alfonso, was on set in Burbank yesterday (22) as a
> tribute to Bill/Doug was taped for Peacock streaming in November...
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/04/days-of-our-lives-brings-back-kristian-alfonso-tribute-late-bill-hayes-1235892153/
>  (but
> takes from
>
> https://www.tvinsider.com/1132613/kristian-alfonso-return-days-of-our-lives-hope-brady/
>  (link))
> B
>
> Kevin M, 1/13/2024:
>
> Played Doug Williams, aka Hope’s dad, for over 50 years on Days of Our
> Lives. He and his wife Susan were as delightful off screen as they were on
> screen. When I was an NBC page, he and a few others set the tone of
> professionalism to be followed by the rest of the (younger) cast: keep it
> light, but do it right. He was 98.
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67967665.amp
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Conan O’Brien Must Go

2024-04-21 Thread Kevin M.
I like Conan’s road segments on his late night shows, so these are pleasant
for me. I feel like, at times, he should have Andy or Sona or someone with
him to play off of, but overall there were a lot of laughs in the Norway
episode. I needed extra laughs this week.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Another Hollywood catfight

2024-04-19 Thread Kevin M.
Agreed. I get, for instance, that Taylor Swift is currently an “it girl”
too, but I personally don’t understand the appeal. However, just because
she’s not my cup of tea doesn’t mean I think she’s either ugly or
talentless; I’m just not buying what she’s selling.

I personally thought Buffy the Vampire Slayer (both the movie and the
series) was contrived, poorly produced, and barely acted, but that doesn’t
mean I think Carol Baum is ugly or talentless. But she does seem to have an
embittered disposition, and I’m glad she was not one of my professors in
college because I don’t believe she has anything to teach me.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 9:38 AM M-D November  wrote:

> I get that it's cool to go after the 'it-girl' (it-person?), and obviously
> personal preference is a thing (I, for instance, don't understand Taylor
> Swift's appeal), and maybe the criticism against "Anyone But You" is valid,
> but I (as a red-blooded heterosexual male) would be hard pressed to call
> Sydney Sweeney unattractive.
>
> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 10:47:01 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> Sydney Sweeney gets called ugly and talentless by Buffy the Vampire
>> Slayer producer Carol Baum during an interview with NY Times critic Janet
>> Maslin. Maslin doubles down on social media by siding with Baum.
>>
>>
>> https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68844159.amp
>>
>> Meow.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Another Hollywood catfight

2024-04-18 Thread Kevin M.
Sydney Sweeney gets called ugly and talentless by Buffy the Vampire Slayer
producer Carol Baum during an interview with NY Times critic Janet Maslin.
Maslin doubles down on social media by siding with Baum.

https://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68844159.amp

Meow.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Netflix to end reporting subscriber numbers

2024-04-18 Thread Kevin M.
My wife tends to put on Netflix and fall asleep. So do a lot of people,
based on studies. Where is those statistics in their report?

Not that it matters, since the numbers they release still aren’t
independently verified, I just assume they make them up.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


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> V: *In its Q1 letter to shareholders, Netflix said that engagement — time
> spent with the service — is its “best proxy for customer satisfaction.” As
> such, it will no longer report quarterly membership numbers or average
> revenue per member (which it dubs “ARM”), as of Q1 2025. Netflix said it
> will announce “major subscriber milestones as we cross them” but will cease
> disclosing quarterly subscriber numbers.*
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/netflix-stop-reporting-subscriber-numbers-starting-2025-1235975341/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Golden Bachelor, "winner" engaged, to wed Jan 4th 2024

2024-04-14 Thread Kevin M.
Gee, I thought they’d go the distance.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 5:19 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
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> The union only lasted a few weeks. They went on GMA to announce their
> split.
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/golden-bachelor-divorce-1235872921/
>  (link)
> B
>
> Moi, Jan 3rd 2024:
>
> Meet the officiant for the wedding, from the Philly burbs... passing
> resemblance to another well-known reality star...
>
> https://www.mcall.com/2024/01/03/delaware-countys-susan-noles-a-former-contestant-will-officiate-the-golden-bachelor-wedding-on-abc/
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Franklin

2024-04-13 Thread Kevin M.
Did any of you see the John Wayne movie where he played a German freighter
captain in WWII? How about when Wayne played Ghengis Khan? Or when Sean
Connery played a Russian? Or a Spaniard? Yeah, as in those instances,
Michael Douglas makes no attempt whatsoever to sound unlike himself in his
portrayal of Benjamin Franklin. I suppose it is better than if he attempted
an accent, but it is distracting.

I know in these enlightened times, television and films are produced for
global audiences, but at the end of a long day, not everybody wants to read
subtitles while people speak in foreign languages. I actually enjoyed the
first episode, but I don’t know that the story was made better by forcing
audiences to hear Michael Douglas do that to the French language.

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[TV orNotTV] Star Trek Discovery season five

2024-04-13 Thread Kevin M.
I’ve nicknamed the series “volume up volume down” because it feels like I’m
adjusting the sound level every few minutes, as the show cannot resist hard
transitions from subdued dialogue scenes to explosive action sequences.

It took me until the fifth season to really understand what most annoys me
about the show. In the film “Tomorrow Never Dies”, James Bond discovers the
dead body of one of the great loves of his life, aka Teri Hatcher, and is
devastated. Moments later, he’s in a chase sequence driving his BMW from
the back seat using a remote control touchpad on his phone. And he’s
laughing and couldn’t be having a better day. Put mildly, Bond did not
waste a lot of time grieving. It felt wrong and it made me wonder if that
was a choice made by the actor, the writer, or the director. It made me
believe that Bond just doesn’t give a sh*t. Or those in charge of the
franchise don’t give a sh*t.

And that’s Discovery. The crew is tasked with hunting down the most
dangerous Deus Ex Machina in all of history. If it falls into the wrong
hands, the universe is doomed. But as the captain is flying around in her
space suit chasing the bad guys as explosions and certain death await her,
she’s having the time of her life. Or later when she’s on a Star Wars
speeder bike clearly stolen from George Lucas’ garage, and a landslide is
hurtling towards them threatening to take the lives of tens of thousands of
villagers, she’s cracking jokes.

The characters are angry or on the verge of tears, then suddenly smiling
annd laughing and whooping it up. In the future, nobody takes things too
seriously.

So why should I care about their peril? Why should I get invested in the
story or the characters when they clearly don’t? In their attempt to make
Discovery a fun space adventure, they made it bipolar. The characters care
about something only if doing so furthers the story. Emotions aren’t felt;
they are contrived. Consequently, I end up hate-watching this series
instead of watching it.

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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[TV orNotTV] CBS actually investing in news content?

2024-04-12 Thread Kevin M.
They appear to be dedicating more time and resources to is streaming news
service, including — brace yourselves — fact checking.

https://variety-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/variety.com/2024/tv/news/cbs-news-streaming-overhaul-whip-around-1235965338/amp/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] OJ Simpson Dead at 76 in Las Vegas

2024-04-11 Thread Kevin M.
The jurors in the criminal trial had no choice but to find OJ not guilty
based on the evidence actually presented, as well as the way in which the
evidence was presented. The sequestered jury members did not see everything
the rest of us saw. Reasonable dedicated viewers of the circus all
concluded that the police framed a guilty man, but the jury was really only
allowed to focus on the flawed evidence handling and then-unfamiliar DNA
evidence. The highly paid defense attorneys spun everything to OJ’s favor,
and the underpaid district attorneys didn’t do what they needed to do.

By contrast, the civil trial evidence was presented very differently by
very different lawyers. Even if the burden of proof had been the same as a
criminal trial, OJ would have lost the civil trial.

As we near the 30th anniversary of the murders, time has offered a bit of
perspective. The OJ trial paved the way for prime time shows (both
“reality” and fictional) with extended story arcs. It also made DNA
evidence so common that shows like CSI and NCIS didn’t have to waste
exposition teaching the viewers about it, which meant they could do more
story and character development. What it didn’t do was change any aspect of
the criminal justice system, nor did it lead to much needed reform in the
LAPD or DA’s offices. What it did do was provide money for the lawyers who
work at The Innocence Project.

Yeah, I watched every possible minute of the trial, and yeah I wrote a blog
which evolved into a book about it. And, yeah, that’s how I got to know
Aaron Barnhart, and that’s how I ended up in this group. I met most
everybody involved in the trial and Kato even followed me on Twitter. As an
intern, I sometimes chose the courtroom clips that Geraldo Rivera used on
his CNBC show when he was in LA. I believe that an embittered Robert
Kardashian leaked the autopsy results to me and others in an attempt to
sabotage the trial.

My personal belief is that at least one of OJ’s kids woke up to the sound
of the murders, and at least one of them knows exactly what happened, and
one day (sooner rather than later) they will come forward. I believe at
least some of the Kardashians also know exactly what happened, but it
didn’t serve their own self-serving interests to come forward.

No, I’m not a lawyer, but Jeffrey Toobin is a lawyer, and I am more
informed than he was about the OJ trial, and frankly my book was better
written than his. That said, I’m ashamed I wrote my book, and I’m ashamed I
read Toobin’s.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 7:17 PM PGage  wrote:

> Well, the Civil Jury found him liable for the deaths.
>
> But, to my point, that jury was quite different than the LA criminal jury.
> The criminal jury knew things about the LAPD that made the accusations of
> planting evidence and covering up even the most extreme police wrongdoing
> reasonable, though not necessarily true.
>
> Kevin is not a legal expert, but he is an expert on the OJ trial.
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
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>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2024 at 7:08 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> A civil jury found he caused the deaths.
>> Who is the legal expert?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 6:59 PM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>> From Prostate Cancer.
>>>
>>> We have an OJ trial expert on the list, so I will not attempt to sum up
>>> or draw conclusions, though I too watched a lot of that trial.
>>>
>>> I will just say this: while I do not object to obituary stories saying
>>> evidence presented at the criminal trial appeared to indicate he was
>>> guilty, it does outrage me when that observation action is not paired (as
>>> it rarely is) with some allusion to the Ramparts scandal, which at least
>>> should explain to most white people why that jury found the claims of
>>> Simpson’s lawyers reasonable
>>>
>>> https://apnews.com/article/5f2e659775684544b3034c380157cac9
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dan Schneider denies toxic-workplace claims as docu on Nick situation airs

2024-04-08 Thread Kevin M.
We sat through the new episode today… it wasn’t an episode; it was a few
interviews with people. The first four episodes deserved to stand-alone.
This week’s episode didn’t feature in depth journalism. To me, the logical
next step was to confront the people who would go on to hire the convicted
child sex predator on more TV shows AFTER he was convicted. Because that’s
the story… the deeply flawed system that not only allows criminal behavior
but endorses it. Instead this week’s episode was just to invite back people
previously interviewed to discuss the “impact” of the documentary and how
it was received on social media. They’d have been better off just letting
the documentary speak for (and stand for) itself.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 3:52 PM Melissa P 
wrote:

> I don't believe I've ever watched anything on Nickelodeon, and my only
> familiarity with Schneider is *Head of the Class*, which I did watch.
>
> But since he's a graduate of my high school, the subject may be discussed
> on the Facebook page, and I should know what's being talked about.  So,
> I've now set the DVR to pick up the series.
>
> If Kathy Bates, also a graduate of my high school, becomes embroiled in
> scandal, I'll be watching that, too -- and more enthusiastically.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:40 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> There'll at least be a fifth episode, Kev... coming April 7th.
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2024/03/quiet-on-set-breaking-the-silence-additional-episode-docuseries-1235868790/
>>  (link)
>> B
>>
>> Kevin M, to moi, March 22nd:
>>
>> Watched the full series this week. Some of the details I knew as it
>> happened, others I learned a few years ago, but there was a lot I did not
>> know. The names of the people who wrote letters to the court supporting a
>> pedophile (who was recorded admitting to the crime) and trying to blame the
>> victim was disheartening.
>>
>> Until now, I thought the worst thing that ever came out of the
>> “Nickelodeon on Sunset” building was “The Chevy Chase Show.”
>>
>> I wonder how much the Disney executives are praying they don’t produce a
>> second season focused on the Disney Channel?
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Sugar

2024-04-06 Thread Kevin M.
Many have tried creating a noir detective set in the present day; few have
succeeded. After two episodes, Sugar seems to succeeding. My only gripe so
far is that Sugar’s backstory isn’t as interesting to me as the writers
want it to be. But the main mystery is a good one.

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: A Gentleman In Moscow

2024-04-05 Thread Kevin M.
Yeah, it’s very much like the cheesy old Roman epics. Everybody (including
the kid) is overacting to the point of distraction. It’s not a bad story,
but I can’t tell how good the writing is when Obi Wan Kenobi is constantly
gnawing the scenery.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:02 PM Paul Murray  wrote:

> Hey, it worked for ancient Rome.
>
> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:38:20 PM UTC-4 Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
>> Set in Soviet Russia, but everybody is incredibly British.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: A Gentleman In Moscow

2024-04-05 Thread Kevin M.
Set in Soviet Russia, but everybody is incredibly British.

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[TV orNotTV] Disney won’t be controlled by a racist old man…

2024-04-03 Thread Kevin M.
… at least for now, as the stockholders voted against the guy who stated
there shouldn’t be black people in movies.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/business/disney-proxy-battle-bob-iger/index.html


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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Joe Flaherty

2024-04-02 Thread Kevin M.
Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 7:40 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> The SCTV regular... the dad on "Freaks and Geeks"... the "Jackass!" guy in 
> *Happy
> Gilmore**... 82.
>
> https://www.tvinsider.com/1129950/joe-flaherty-dead-tributes-sctv-freaks-and-geeks/
>  (link,
> featuring pertinent 'toobs)
> B
> *Adam Sandler will be on Dan Patrick's radio/Peacock show tentatively
> tomorrow, and I wonder if either will bring it up...
>

I don’t know whether they will bring it up, but I do know they won’t be
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Felicity Huffman resurfaces

2024-04-01 Thread Kevin M.
Because every other actress in LA was unavailable?!

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On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 3:54 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Her punishment for the college-admissions scandal complete, she'll guest
> star on Paramount+'s *Criminal Minds: Evolution* next season as a
> "brilliant biological psychiatrist" who's the widow of original
> investigator Jason Gideon...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/felicity-huffman-criminal-minds-scandal-1235863955/
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: STEVE! (martin)

2024-03-31 Thread Kevin M.
Having read his autobiography and enjoyed all aspects of his career, there
wasn’t much new in this documentary. But it was a touching, sweet, fun, and
funny watch.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ex-RNC chair sacked from NBC News

2024-03-27 Thread Kevin M.
Firing the election denying insurrectionist doesn’t fix the root problem.
Firing whoever hired her would be an admission of wrongdoing. Begs the
question: Specifically who hired her?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 4:43 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> Maddow and joy Reid spent significant air time ripping the {MS}NBC
> announcement last week.  On Monday Maddow spent her whole A-block on
> specific fascists, fascist-enablers (a fav topic of hers) and wrapping with
> the ultimate MSNBC decision on the weekend to Not have Ronna on MSNBC.
>
> I was kinda impressed that the shows were allowed to speak against the
> top.  But maybe that only happens at Fox.
>
>
>
> /Doug
> east...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2024, 21:16 PGage  wrote:
>
>> This sad episode really illustrates what is wrong with TV News. The
>> problem with hiring McDaniel was not that she is a conservative voice
>> incompatible with the liberal lean of the MSNBC side of the family, which
>> is how Conde is spinning it. The problem is that she is an election denier
>> (recently unconvincingly reformed) and supporter and apologist for
>> insurrectionists. It is harder to put balanced voices on your opinion page
>> when so many on one side are now hostile to constitutional democracy, but
>> that is due to the weaknesses and lack of courage of a majority of the
>> Republican Party,  not liberal intolerance.
>>
>> If NBC had offered a job to Nikki Haley or Mike Pence, they may have been
>> criticized by the Chris Hayeses of the world, but could also have safely
>> ignored them. They are hyper conservatives who enabled Trump and advocate
>> many policies that I find horrific and immoral, but have not disqualified
>> themselves from participation in public discourse with polite society by
>> betraying the fundamentals of our Republic. McDaniel has.
>>
>> If NBC was covering the last year of WW2 would they have hired Joseph
>> Goebbels as a paid consultant, just so they could claim to be giving equal
>> time to all views?
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2024 at 3:34 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just days after Ronna (Romney) McDaniel became a paid analyst there...
>>> even her reps gave her the Ziggy...
>>> https://deadline.com/2024/03/ronna-mcdaniel-out-nbc-news-caa-1235868701/
>>>  (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Baltimore bridge collapse already drawing X-polluting conspiracy theorists

2024-03-26 Thread Kevin M.
David Simon is the king of the stern rebuke

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> Including "MTG," and they all got a stern rebuke from David Simon...
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/03/david-simon-marjorie-taylor-greene-baltimore-bridge-1235868804/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Digest for tvornottv@googlegroups.com - 15 updates in 9 topics

2024-03-23 Thread Kevin M.
Pleshette was a frequent guest on Carson’s Tonight Show back in the day.
Between that and Newhart and Columbo, I always carried a torch for her.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 9:26 PM jbelkin  wrote:

> So, I just finished watching the entire run of the Bob Newhart Show - the
> 1970's were before my time but I'm curious about one thing - how come the
> show doesn't seem to acknowledge that Suzanne PLeshette was gorgeous? Did
> everyone in the 1970's just feel she was not unattractive but some sort of
> run of the mill attractive? I mean, there were a couple eps where she was
> jealous about Bob's old college girlfriends who were apparently super
> attractive (one was shown but others were not), I'm thinking - in that era,
> was Pleshette considered "average" or so she was more relatable to the avg
> viewer?  - also, is there a backstory to Newhart only making cameos
> appearances in a handful of eps in season 5 and 6, was he just bored??
> Curious what you think? Thanks.
>
> JB
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 2:22 AM  wrote:
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>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!forum/tvornottv/topics>
>>  Google
>> Groups
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email/#!overview>
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email/#!overview>
>> Topic digest
>> View all topics
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest_medium=email#!forum/tvornottv/topics>
>>
>>- Max Heading for Europe in May
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_0> - 3
>>Updates
>>- Dan Schneider denies toxic-workplace claims as docu on Nick
>>situation airs
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_1> - 1
>>Update
>>- Not all of the L renewed at NBC
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_2> - 1
>>Update
>>- Equity Firm Makes $11B Bid for Paramount Film, TV Studio
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_3> - 1
>>Update
>>- Dana Carvey apologizes for Sharon Stone undressing on SNL
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_4> - 1
>>Update
>>- BBC presenters told to hit back on transphobia accusations
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_5> - 3
>>Updates
>>- NBC's Paris Olympics opening ceremony coverage...
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_6> - 3
>>Updates
>>- NPH series leaps to Showtime, "Ripley" to Netflix
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_7> - 1
>>Update
>>- David Chase to do a horror film
>><#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_group_thread_8> - 1
>>Update
>>
>> Max Heading for Europe in May
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/52aafad101314ad9?utm_source=digest_medium=email>
>> Mark Jeffries : Mar 22 08:58AM -0700
>>
>> Just in time for the Paris Olympics, for which WBD's Eurosport has
>> exclusive non-terrestrial rights (and the second season of "House of the
>> Dragon")--it will include WBD-owned linear channels, including Eurosport,
>> and an extra-pay sports hub--it is not launching in countries where Sky
>> is
>> in operation and has rights to HBO programs:
>>
>> https://www.thewrap.com/max-europe-release-date-plans-details/
>> "Kevin M." : Mar 22 10:07AM -0700
>>
>> I read that as “Max Headroom is in Europe” and got excited.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> PGage : Mar 22 05:36PM -0700
>>
>> Same.
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> Back to top <#m_7969834961367511314_m_-8631299663714769329_digest_top>
>> Dan Schneider denies toxic-workplace claims as docu on Nick situation
>> airs
>> <http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv/t/9d8ef6001b2a5671?utm_source=digest_medium=email>
>> "Kevin M." : Mar 22 03:47PM -0700
>>
>> Watched the full series this week. Some of the details I knew as it
>> happened, others I learned a few years ago, but there was a lot I did not
>> know. The names of the people who wrote letters to the court supporting a
>> pedophile (who was recorded admitting to the crime) and trying to blame
>> the
>> victim was disheartening.
>>
>> Until now, I thought the worst thing that ever came out of the
>> “Nickelodeon
>> on Sunset” b

[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Palm Royale

2024-03-23 Thread Kevin M.
Watching the first episode was exhausting. So much overacting. As a woman
in a coma, Carol Burnett should be grateful she didn’t have to regurgitate
any of the predictable dialogue.

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Dan Schneider denies toxic-workplace claims as docu on Nick situation airs

2024-03-22 Thread Kevin M.
Watched the full series this week. Some of the details I knew as it
happened, others I learned a few years ago, but there was a lot I did not
know. The names of the people who wrote letters to the court supporting a
pedophile (who was recorded admitting to the crime) and trying to blame the
victim was disheartening.

Until now, I thought the worst thing that ever came out of the “Nickelodeon
on Sunset” building was “The Chevy Chase Show.”

I wonder how much the Disney executives are praying they don’t produce a
second season focused on the Disney Channel?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 3:11 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Schneider in full apology mode on his Youtube channel...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/dan-schneider-response-quiet-on-set-allegations-1235946272/
>  (link)
> ...or, for the video directly: https://youtu.be/MX9pLTuGX_M (link)
> B
>
> Mark Jeffries, to moi, March 18th:
>
> And it's streaming on Max.
>
> "Quiet on the Set: The Dark Side of Kids TV" began Sunday and concludes
> tonight on Investigation Discovery... the exec, through a spokesperson,
> asserts that officials on both coasts evaluated and approved every episode,
> while parents and caregivers observed all production...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/dan-schneider-denies-nickelodeon-stars-claims-quiet-on-the-set-doc-1235854769/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Max Heading for Europe in May

2024-03-22 Thread Kevin M.
I read that as “Max Headroom is in Europe” and got excited.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:58 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Just in time for the Paris Olympics, for which WBD's Eurosport has
> exclusive non-terrestrial rights (and the second season of "House of the
> Dragon")--it will include WBD-owned linear channels, including Eurosport,
> and an extra-pay sports hub--it is not launching in countries where Sky is
> in operation and has rights to HBO programs:
>
> https://www.thewrap.com/max-europe-release-date-plans-details/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] BBC presenters told to hit back on transphobia accusations

2024-03-22 Thread Kevin M.
So they can’t refer to someone as transphobia unless they, themselves,
“accept” the term?! Isn’t that akin to not calling someone racist unless
they call themselves racist? Can the BBC still refer to Trump as a
buffoonish, chauvinistic, tax-dodging, sexual predator if he doesn’t accept
the term?

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 6:46 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> After the network admitted that reports on JK Rowling fell short of
> standards... Deadline reprinted an internal memo on this and related
> subjects sent to journalists and staffs last year...
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/03/bbc-sex-and-gender-briefing-jk-rowling-1235864310/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] David Chase to do a horror film

2024-03-21 Thread Kevin M.
The movie picks up where the Sopranos finale left off.

As new zombie Tony Soprano emerges from the restaurant in search of brains,
Journey’s Don’t Stop Believing fades out and Journey’s Who’s Crying Now
fades in.

There will be blood… and power ballads… tonight!

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 6:14 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Co-written with his "Sopranos" mate Terence Winter, for New Line under his
> first-look deal with Warners...
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/03/the-sopranos-david-chase-terence-winter-set-untitled-horror-film-new-line-chase-to-direct-1235862423/
>  (link,
> hat-tip Amy Kuperinsky of the NJ Newhouse papers)
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[TV orNotTV] Reluctant Traveler recommendation

2024-03-19 Thread Kevin M.
Not sure if many (or any) watch the travel series hosted by Eugene Levy on
Apple TV, but I enjoy it, due almost entirely to Levy’s personality. I
normally run screaming from travel shows starring people who are generally
ignorant about the places they visit, but Levy is just likable.

The most recent episode about France gets special notice for anyone curious
about how Joan Collins is holding up after all these years. I recommend
watching the episode before you Google her age.


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Re: [TV orNotTV] DirecTV: Don't Want Local Stations? Save 12 Bucks

2024-03-19 Thread Kevin M.
Just think, if cable and dish providers had allowed a la carte channel
selections, they might still be power players in media instead of the
afterthoughts they are now, and there’d be no need for 50 different
streaming services.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 7:37 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> The satellite service that seems to always have negotiation problems with
> station groups over carriage fees says that it will knock $12 a month off
> the bill if the customer decides that they don't need their local stations,
> which should cover the cost of a digital antenna on top of the TV, but
> considering that the main draw these days for cable and satellite is easy
> access to local stations and the sports channels for live sports...
>
>
> https://www.nexttv.com/news/directv-drops-local-stations-from-lower-priced-bundle?utm_source=substack_medium=email
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher Down for Two More Years at HBO

2024-03-16 Thread Kevin M.
Grumpy McUnfunny didn’t get invited to the cool kids party, so he fired his
agents.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/bill-maher-fires-caa-oscar-party-snub-1235853885/?utm_source=twitter_medium=social


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On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:07 AM Marti Lawrence 
wrote:

> I still enjoy his show. I don't agree with all of his positions, but I
> find his discussions to be interesting, even if he or his guests make me
> angry.
> I am frustrated that so many people have put themselves in a media cage,
> and don't listen to anything they don't already agree with.
> I want the media to challenge me, and to offer opposing viewpoints.  I
> want to hear what the fringes of both sides have to say, if for no other
> reason than it serves the same purpose as spy intelligence, to let me know
> what is going on behind enemy lines.
>
> ~Marti
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 4:11:51 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:48 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>>
>>> Will take "Real Time" to 24 years on the air:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/real-time-with-bill-maher-renewed-through-2026-hbo-1235851545/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
>>>
>>> And he also molests collies. Beat you, Kevin.
>>>
>>
>> Grrr.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Snowpiercer" final season to AMC

2024-03-16 Thread Kevin M.
In my defense, everything sucks.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 8:16 AM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> The movie was by the same director who did "Parasite," and deals with
> similar themes of class warfare. (I think it's only a remake of "The Wizard
> of Oz" in the sense that any movie in which several people team up while on
> a journey to do battle with someone is a remake of "The Wizard of Oz.") The
> TV show expands on the world in which the movie is set, and I think it does
> it pretty effectively, especially in the first two seasons.
>
> Kevin hates everything, so take what he says with a grain of salt -- and
> my email address is "trainman," so take what I say with a grain of salt,
> too.
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:57 AM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> The movie upon which the series was based was a horrible remake of the
> Wizard of Oz only set in a train and including machine guns. I wouldn’t
> recommend it.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 7:55 AM Marti Lawrence 
> wrote:
>
>> I have heard of this program, but don't know much about it. Is it worth
>> watching?
>>
>> ~Marti
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>> It was done before all the housecleaning precursorily to the WBD merger;
>>> the originally-TNT first three seasons will drop on AMC+ this year, with
>>> the fourth débuting early 2025...
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snowpiercer-final-season-amc-1235852718/
>>>  (link)
>>> B
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Snowpiercer" final season to AMC

2024-03-16 Thread Kevin M.
The movie upon which the series was based was a horrible remake of the
Wizard of Oz only set in a train and including machine guns. I wouldn’t
recommend it.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 7:55 AM Marti Lawrence 
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> watching?
>
> ~Marti
>
> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:14:39 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>> It was done before all the housecleaning precursorily to the WBD merger;
>> the originally-TNT first three seasons will drop on AMC+ this year, with
>> the fourth débuting early 2025...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/snowpiercer-final-season-amc-1235852718/
>>  (link)
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Paramount sells half billion in assets

2024-03-15 Thread Kevin M.
Someone who needs content for their streaming app

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On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 8:15 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> On the other hand, who wants to buy a cable network today outside of Byron
> Allen?
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 9:45:58 PM UTC-5 Kevin M. wrote:
>
>> I realize this specific deal only affects international versions, but
>> this feels like a foot in the door for Disney, and historically when Disney
>> sees even a small opening, they rip a larger one.
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 7:27 PM Jim Ellwanger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like this is a subsidiary in India, so it would only apply to the
>>> Indian versions of MTV and Comedy Central.
>>>
>>> On Mar 14, 2024, at 7:25 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>>>
>>> Unless I’m misreading the tea leaves, when all this shakes out, I think
>>> Disney could end up in control of MTV and Comedy Central?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-global-sells-stake-in-viacom18-1235851971/amp/
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Paramount sells half billion in assets

2024-03-14 Thread Kevin M.
I realize this specific deal only affects international versions, but this
feels like a foot in the door for Disney, and historically when Disney sees
even a small opening, they rip a larger one.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 7:27 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> Looks like this is a subsidiary in India, so it would only apply to the
> Indian versions of MTV and Comedy Central.
>
> On Mar 14, 2024, at 7:25 PM, Kevin M.  wrote:
>
> Unless I’m misreading the tea leaves, when all this shakes out, I think
> Disney could end up in control of MTV and Comedy Central?
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-global-sells-stake-in-viacom18-1235851971/amp/
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[TV orNotTV] Paramount sells half billion in assets

2024-03-14 Thread Kevin M.
Unless I’m misreading the tea leaves, when all this shakes out, I think
Disney could end up in control of MTV and Comedy Central?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/paramount-global-sells-stake-in-viacom18-1235851971/amp/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Maher Down for Two More Years at HBO

2024-03-13 Thread Kevin M.
Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:48 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> Will take "Real Time" to 24 years on the air:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/real-time-with-bill-maher-renewed-through-2026-hbo-1235851545/#recipient_hashed=04cc8432e89af1614e2b95d666f830a827568c45d7e9abbbd46ed84bf99ddfc7_salt=f8f1afe78c2d990c75c3121d1fa116315cbb1eda09b65c89df333468970da653
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> And he also molests collies. Beat you, Kevin.
>

Grrr.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Don Lemon to launch new show on X

2024-03-13 Thread Kevin M.
Getting fired from social media is very on-brand for Don Lemon.


Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 1:06 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Musk cans Lemon. I couldn't think of anything more clever.
>
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/13/media/don-lemon-says-elon-deal-canceled/index.html
>
> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024, 10:19 AM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Don Lemon molests collies
>>
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 9:27 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Three shows a week, no other details.
>>> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/don-lemon-x-talk-show-cnn-1235866266/
>>> https://twitter.com/XBusiness/status/1744758555876430038 (links)
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The Regime

2024-03-11 Thread Kevin M.
After four years of Donald Trump as president, a fictional (even
cartoonish) story about Kate Winslet as an insane despot is damn near
quaint by comparison. I mean, throughout the first episode I’m sure the
writers wanted me shocked by her behavior, but the whole time I just kept
thinking to myself, “Trump was worse.”

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: TruTV Becomes TNT the Deuce in Prime Time

2024-03-10 Thread Kevin M.
I don’t miss cable TV at all

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 8:07 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> They wanted to be something more than just that fourth network in the
> men's NCAA hoops tourney deal... and buried in the third tier on most
> cablers...   B
>
> Mark Jeffries, March 9th:
>
> Starting Monday, the Turner/WBD channel, known for its alt-comedy shows
> but more recently known as the "Impractical Jokers" channel, starts
> programming in prime time sports, including backup NBA and NHL games, some
> NCAA men's tournament games and nightly studio shows branded "TNT
> Sports"--"Jokers" will move to TBS and have new episodes this summer:
>
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/trutv-rebrand-sports-channel-nba-mlb-nhl-1235845643/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Sen. Katie Britt's State of the Union response: Discuss

2024-03-09 Thread Kevin M.
Everybody seems to have had a lot to say about Britt. What is worth
reminding everybody is that her response was geared towards the 33% of the
nation that still supports Trump (and will always do so). It wasn’t to
change minds; it was to try to remind the Trump cult that they are still
there, still wallowing in the swamp. If you had liked (or even been able to
tolerate) her inane banter, it would be a failure. It pandered to those
blinded and stupefied by hatred and ignorance. The cult loves that the left
is making fun of this video.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 12:59 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> I wanted to comment on Sen. Katie Britt’s response to the president’s
> State of the Union address.
>
> I streamed her rebuttal with the sound on low. So I didn’t really hear it
> live. But I glanced at it from time to time. My first reaction was,
> “Putting her in a kitchen makes her look like a housewife, not a senator.”
>
> What really stopped me was her creepy smile. She is a successful
> politician but she can’t produce a decent smile? Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis
> has the same problem.
>
> Afterward, I heard the recap of what she said. And how she said it. The
> Republicans have known for four years they would be giving the response to
> the State of the Union and this is what they offer? Especially after
> previous flubs by Bobby Jindal and Marco Rubio.
>
> It’s like someone gave her the assignment to connect with the public and
> she proved herself incapable of doing that. It’s not that hard. Just speak
> with genuine emotion. Not the manufactured emotion she stumbled through.
>
> We all know the cold open for tonight’s “Saturday Night Live.”
>
> There’s a lot of good rebuttals to Britt’s rebuttal, but I like this best:
>
> https://www.tiktok.com/@joyreidofficial/video/730653272698154
>
> At the risk of being a complete chauvinist, Megyn Kelly is looking totally
> hot. I suspect there’s some digital manipulation of her image.
>
> https://youtu.be/iqxURf4EiKw?si=Q4c_Jud0ceyxu4zt
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Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Joe Rogan signs a $100 million-plus deal with Spotify

2024-03-07 Thread Kevin M.
Rogan would undoubtedly argue the libertarian perspective that it was the
head’s sovereign right to be detached from its body, and frankly you ought
to be ashamed of yourself for body-shaming it.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 7:50 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> A month after he appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast, a man was arrested when
> a head was found in his freezer.
>
>
> https://www.mediaite.com/crime/joe-rogan-guest-arrested-after-head-found-in-freezer/
>
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 4:51 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> Someone hired a skywriter to run a banner over Los Angeles that says Joe
>> Rogan is literally 5 foot 3 and Twitter explodes.
>> https://twitter.com/robintran04/status/1403827002633641985
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 9:01 PM Kevin M. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Re: Joe Rogan
>>>
>>> Rogan has been hanging out in Austin with Dave Chappelle and Elon Musk.
>>> Chappelle just tested positive, as did Musk’s girlfriend.
>>>
>>> https://amp.austin360.com/amp/6657281002
>>>
>>>
>>> https://amp.tmz.com/2021/01/21/dave-chappelle-positive-test-covid-19-cancel-show/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 8:25 PM Kevin M. 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What captured my interest in podcasts, both listening to and producing
>>>> them, is they don’t cost much to create... mostly the expense is in time,
>>>> not money. They are truly independent, and that independence has resulted
>>>> in brilliant conversations and the creative sharing of ideas. When podcasts
>>>> start charging, or licensing or joining a network, they don’t feel quite
>>>> the same as indie podcasts, and every podcast I can think of that left the
>>>> other host-sites and leapt over to Spotify, most notably “Movie Sign with
>>>> the Mads”, was shuttered within a year of the move.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 5:38 PM PGage  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am uninterested in Rogan, but I LOVE Spotify. We have a family plan
>>>>> for 5 users (forget how much it costs, but is a bargain assuming all 5
>>>>> would otherwise pay for premium individual, which is true in our case).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the problem that they can’t pay for the price of Rogan and other
>>>>> podcasts, or that the original model of music streaming is not 
>>>>> sustainable?
>>>>> If the latter, I think they could probably raise their prices like 10-25%
>>>>> and still feel worth it to me. I have zero tolerance for listening to ads.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 3:43 PM Steve Timko 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Rogan isn't doing much to help Spotify. An analyst downgraded Spotify
>>>>>> to sell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://world.wng.org/content/joe_rogan_hasn_t_saved_spotify_yet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 7:59 AM Steve Timko 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nevada has no income tax and it has the UFC headquarters in Las
>>>>>>> Vegas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 26, 2020, 9:26 PM 'bradfo...@dwx.com' via TVorNotTV <
>>>>>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll bet it's because of the tax situation. Back in the 1990s I
>>>>>>>> worked for a guy who sold
>>>>>>>> the company for a huge amount and then moved to Texas. When I asked
>>>>>>>> someone why he sold his
>>>>>>>> company, his house and left town I was advised that Texas had no
>>>>>>>> income tax. So when
>>>>>>>> you come into a large amount of moneysay a hundred
>>>>>>>> million.you're probably in a
>>>>>>>> position to avoid as much income tax as possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Original Message ---
>>>>>>>> *From :* Steve Timko[mailto:steveti...@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> *Sent :* 7/26/2020 4:19:50 PM
>>>>>>>> *To :* tvornottv@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> *Cc :*
>>>>>>>> *Subject :* RE: Re: [TV orNotTV] Joe Rogan signs a $100
>>>>>>>> million

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "Rust" update

2024-03-06 Thread Kevin M.
That was a quick verdict

They will appeal it for ten years, but it was a really quick decision all
things considered.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 3:19 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> Guilty of involuntary manslaughter.
>
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2024, 2:20 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> And it's in the jury's hands now...
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/entertainment/rust-trial-hannah-gutierrez-reed?cid=ios_app
>> B
>>
>> Moi, Feb 21st:
>>
>> Gutierrez-Reed's trial began today with jury selection, and is expected
>> to last about two weeks...
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/rust-armorer-involuntary-manslaughter-trial-b76e96b11f6452e61e3fb754054e94a1
>>  (link)
>> The judge in the case shot down efforts on both sides last week to
>> suppress evidence...
>>
>> https://apnews.com/article/alec-baldwin-rust-movie-set-shooting-trial-e1c015dc62757837535dc755365b5c87
>>  (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Elsbeth

2024-03-05 Thread Kevin M.
Imagine feeding all the elements of Columbo into a poorly programmed AI,
then asking it to produce a script. Then imagine taking that script and
running it through Google Translate into Swedish, then translating it back
into English.

Elsbeth is worse than that.

Kevin M. (RPCV)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] New Amazon quiz show to get second window at Fox

2024-03-04 Thread Kevin M.
I worked on the very short lived Dick Clark hosted (but not produced) game
show “Winning Lines”. It took over 12 hours to produce a single episode.
“Challenge Of The Child Geniuses” took longer than that… the second place
contestant literally collapsed from exhaustion after the winner was
announced. “Greed” took a couple hours to produce an episode.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 8:05 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:

> It's not so much the call time itself as it is the fact that the call time
> is so early because 1) there are 100 contestants, and 2) they're taking a
> full day to produce one hour's worth of game show.
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2024, at 7:53 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
>
> A 6:30 a.m. call time for contestants for a game show.
>
> Mark Goodson, Merrill Heatter, Bob Quigley, Stefan Hatos, Monty Hall and
> Chuck Barris are all doing the Lambada in their graves.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 4:32 PM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>> I tried out for "The 1% Club" back in May 2023 - actually, I tried out
>> for "untitled quiz show for a major streaming service," but based on the
>> questions that were asked during the Zoom tryout, I figured out what show
>> it was (and found episodes of the Australian version, which is hosted by
>> comedian Jim Jeffries, to watch so I knew exactly what it would be like).
>>
>> It was originally scheduled to tape in July 2023, but ended up being
>> pushed back to February 2024 by the strikes. Unfortunately, they ended up
>> only wanting me as a standby contestant, which would have meant having to
>> sit around for 8+ hours and getting paid a whole $100, so it wasn't worth
>> taking a day off from my actual job. (They also gave me less than one day's
>> notice for wanting me at Television City for a 6:30 A.M. call time.)
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2024, at 1:38 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> *The 1% Club*, Patton Oswalt's first-ever hosting gig, adapting a
>> British show co-produced by BBC but airing on itv, had been ordered to
>> series by Prime Video in '23...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/patton-oswalt-1-percent-club-game-show-amazon-fox-1235842137/
>>  (link)
>> Elsewhere on the Oswalt front, at the MPSE (film/video editors) awards,
>> he called himself out as "the a--hole that forced you to take out a second
>> mortgage on your home" during the strikes, and delivered a zinger about
>> Daddy Zaslav...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/patton-oswalt-david-zaslav-coyote-vs-acme-1235842255/
>>  (link)
>> B
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: You Knew It Was Coming...

2024-03-04 Thread Kevin M.
I found myself in Hollywood on Saturday for the first time since pre-Covid.
I was walking in the rain from the Farmers Market to Canters Deli for
lunch, and was inundated outside CBS TV City by people wanting me to
participate in “the Trials.” The kicker? They wanted me to pay to play. I
told them I’d consider it if they paid me $1,000 upfront. They were puzzled
by the very concept.


Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 7:50 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Speaking of said freezing conditions, a UK personal-injury law firm has
> taken on at least a few contestants who claim they weren't aware of them...
> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/nov/23/squid-game-the-challenge-contestants-threaten-legal-action-against-netflix-and-producers
>  (link)
> B
>
> Moi, Nov 22nd:
>
> The THR interview with ...*The Challenge*'s execs addresses things like
> the freezing conditions, why one game was omitted, and the whole process of
> boiling down footage of hundreds of contestants into hour-long-or-less
> episodes...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/squid-game-challenge-interview-1235647920/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] New Amazon quiz show to get second window at Fox

2024-03-04 Thread Kevin M.
Barris would probably have been fine with a 6:30am call time if it meant he
had stayed awake the previous night on a cocaine fueled bender

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 7:54 PM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> A 6:30 a.m. call time for contestants for a game show.
>
> Mark Goodson, Merrill Heatter, Bob Quigley, Stefan Hatos, Monty Hall and
> Chuck Barris are all doing the Lambada in their graves.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
> spotligh...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 4:32 PM Jim Ellwanger 
> wrote:
>
>> I tried out for "The 1% Club" back in May 2023 - actually, I tried out
>> for "untitled quiz show for a major streaming service," but based on the
>> questions that were asked during the Zoom tryout, I figured out what show
>> it was (and found episodes of the Australian version, which is hosted by
>> comedian Jim Jeffries, to watch so I knew exactly what it would be like).
>>
>> It was originally scheduled to tape in July 2023, but ended up being
>> pushed back to February 2024 by the strikes. Unfortunately, they ended up
>> only wanting me as a standby contestant, which would have meant having to
>> sit around for 8+ hours and getting paid a whole $100, so it wasn't worth
>> taking a day off from my actual job. (They also gave me less than one day's
>> notice for wanting me at Television City for a 6:30 A.M. call time.)
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2024, at 1:38 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> *The 1% Club*, Patton Oswalt's first-ever hosting gig, adapting a
>> British show co-produced by BBC but airing on itv, had been ordered to
>> series by Prime Video in '23...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/patton-oswalt-1-percent-club-game-show-amazon-fox-1235842137/
>>  (link)
>> Elsewhere on the Oswalt front, at the MPSE (film/video editors) awards,
>> he called himself out as "the a--hole that forced you to take out a second
>> mortgage on your home" during the strikes, and delivered a zinger about
>> Daddy Zaslav...
>>
>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/patton-oswalt-david-zaslav-coyote-vs-acme-1235842255/
>>  (link)
>> B
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Faraway Downs

2024-03-04 Thread Kevin M.
I’ve always wanted to like the directing style of Baz Luhrman, but I never
have. Allowing him to take six episodes to retell the same story he told in
a two hour movie makes me like him less.

Note to Hulu: Putting a note at the start of the series about how much you
appreciate and respect aboriginal people in Australia does not let you off
the hook for racist portrayals of aboriginal people.

That said, Nicole Kidman doesn’t age, apparently.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] D!ck Wolf bringing new true-crime stuff to Netflix

2024-03-04 Thread Kevin M.
Wolf must be stopped.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


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> Alfred Street (*Project Runway, Is It Cake?, *among others) is
> co-producing *Homicide: NY* and *Homicide: LA*, about those cities' most
> notorious murder cases...
>
> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/dick-wolf-netflix-true-crime-series-1235842156/
>  (link,
> featuring 'toob trailer for the NY series)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Barnhart and Trowbridge

2024-03-02 Thread Kevin M.
I stumbled upon Aaron 30-years-ago. He and I were both blogging before
blogging was a thing. His focus was Letterman; my focus was on the OJ
Simpson trial. I remember asking him for guidance uploading/attaching
pictures when an embittered member of OJ’s inner circle  Kardashian
<\cough> leaked the autopsy report to me. We subscribed to each other’s
email lists. Aaron turned his writing into a career, whereas I just became
another online lunatic ranting and raving about this and that.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 6:37 PM Melissa P  wrote:

> I know I wasn't the first subscriber to Late Show News, but was probably
> among the first.
>
> My agency was probably the first in the government to put a PC on every
> employee's desk.
>
> Curiosity took over, even before we were sent to class for Lotus 123 and
> WordPerfect.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 6:39 PM 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Part of a longer piece by the ex-Chief on the occasion of Late Show News'
>> 30th anniversary.
>>
>> https://mailchi.mp/71f65aa3803d/late-show-news-at-30?e=2ecf66baff
>>
>> If I remember the sequence of events correctly, Late Show News led to TV
>> Barn, which eventually spawned this list.  I wasn't here from jump, but I
>> think I've been around for 95 percent of it.  Which is sobering.  Thank you
>> Aaron.
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>>
>> On Friday, March 1, 2024 at 09:37:48 AM PST, Jon Delfin <
>> jondel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> definitely tv
>>
>> https://youtu.be/wmSB7mEqrIw?si=ycla1j5Jo5BoxNgl
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Duke leaves "Miss Scarlet and the Duke"

2024-03-02 Thread Kevin M.
Well, the Duke was barely present for most of the most recent season, so
the actor departing doesn’t leave as big a hole as it would have in season
one or two. But they did have terrific on screen chemistry.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 6:00 AM Diner  wrote:

> Well, this is a disappointing turn of events on one of the few series I
> actually watch.
>
> Miss Scarlet on her own can be a little hard to take, but what has made
> the show work was the way she interacted with everyone else. But first
> Moses disappeared at the beginning of season 4 (I think they only mentioned
> his absence in one line - shades of Susan Saint James' departure from
> "McMillan and Wife"). Then season 4 ended with Nash in jail and Eliza back
> to working on her own. And now she will have no Duke for her to play off
> of.
>
> So now Eliza has no romantic partner, no work partner, and no easy way to
> investigate cases unless they introduce a whole new supporting cast...
> what's the point of continuing the series?
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2024/02/miss-scarlet-and-the-duke-will-continue-without-duke-masterpiece-1235841918/
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[TV orNotTV] NCIS: TiVa

2024-02-28 Thread Kevin M.
A series for Tony and Ziva, set in Paris, has been announced for
Paramount+.

Hoping Mr. Weatherly has had attended a few workplace harassment seminars.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cote-de-pablo-michael-weatherly-return-to-ncis-verse-with-paramount-series-1235838782/amp/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Richard Lewis

2024-02-28 Thread Kevin M.
I don’t believe Lewis was one of the funniest stand-ups of all time (he was
good, but not great), but if I had to pick a comic to sit down to dinner
with who would guarantee that I’d fall out of my chair laughing, he’d be a
top candidate. He was just a naturally funny person, and the handful of
times I got to share a room with him, I felt blessed

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tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> He had developed Parkinson's disease last year, after passing on several
> 2021 episodes of *Curb* while recovering from multiple surgeries, but it
> was his ticker that gave out, said V... 76.
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/richard-lewis-dead-comedian-curb-your-enthusiasm-1235925744/
>  (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] "Tulsa King" next to get CBS run

2024-02-28 Thread Kevin M.
I’d rather watch Stallone’s porn film than endure another excruciating
moment of Tulsa King.

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> Before season two hits Par+, the first of the Stallone starrer will arrive
> over-the-air "this summer" (no specifics)... the streamer says it is their
> second-most-watched series, behind only "1923"...
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/tulsa-king-cbs-debut-summer-broadcast-1235925652/
>  (link)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] 'Y' Gets Ticket to 55 Years

2024-02-28 Thread Kevin M.
At some point they have to admit they are no longer young or restless

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On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 10:13 AM Mark Jeffries 
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> The long-running CBS soap has been given a four-year renewal that will
> take the tale of Genoa City to its 55th anniversary:
>
>
> https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/the-young-and-the-restless-renewed-cbs-1235924102/
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Re: [TV orNotTV] New LN news site from familiar faces

2024-02-26 Thread Kevin M.
A site about a dying time-slot on dying broadcast TV?

Sounds like a guaranteed moneymaker!

Kevin M. (RPCV)


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> This "about" page on LateNighter (part of Snugglefish, whom also hosts
> Primetimer) identifies AJ Katz (once of Newser, and son of WABC exec
> Michael). Bill Carter (yeah, *him*) and Jed Rosenzweig (once of Yahoo) as
> its brain-trust...
> https://latenighter.com/about-us (link)
> Among the fresh items: POTUS' return to the Meyers show
> <https://latenighter.com/news/biden-to-sit-down-with-seth-meyers-tonight/>
> (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Amazon sued over ads

2024-02-24 Thread Kevin M.
A class action lawsuit alleges Amazon acted inappropriately by including
ads for users who paid an annual fee for its services that were promoted as
commercial free.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/amazon-prime-video-ad-tier-lawsuit-1235822779/amp/

My wife pays for this one, not me, but I’ve almost entirely stopped using
it since the ads began. I think the only thing I watched was the
penultimate episode of The Grand Tour.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Constellation

2024-02-24 Thread Kevin M.
Over the last 15 or so years, showrunners started confusing nonlinear
storytelling with being creative. But instead of appearing creative, it
only calls attention to their inability to make me care about characters
without throwing them into a jackpot somewhere in their future. In the ‘70s
and ‘80s, shows would frequently begin with a 30 second preview, i.e.
“Tonight on Spenser For Hire”, showing that episode’s chases and
shoot-outs, but that was more of a commercial and not part of the show’s
narrative. I’d frankly prefer that to this new form of disjointed, even
fractured television episodes.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


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> Samuel Fuller once said, “If you don’t have the audience by the balls
> halfway down the first page of the script, go back and rewrite it.”
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 12:58 AM Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> Opening scene filled with intense drama and gripping suspense, then the
>> next scene has the words “five weeks earlier” on the screen. I switched it
>> off. I’m boycotting this sloppy writing. Stop the madness.
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Constellation

2024-02-23 Thread Kevin M.
Opening scene filled with intense drama and gripping suspense, then the
next scene has the words “five weeks earlier” on the screen. I switched it
off. I’m boycotting this sloppy writing. Stop the madness.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Monsieur Spade

2024-02-20 Thread Kevin M.
Just finished the season finale. Alfre Woodard should have her name legally
changed to deus ex machina, but overall a thoroughly enjoyable series. I
don’t hold out much hope for a second season, but I’ll be pleased if it
happens.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 7:50 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> At least his accent is passable. Some of them make me convinced the
> British still hold a grudge against Dick Van Dyke for his accent in Mary
> Poppins.
>
> I like that for Spade’s wardrobe, they seem to have taken a cue from what
> Bogart wore in his later years. Makes sense, considering he wore his own
> clothes in most of his movies.
>
> True Detective seemed to confuse noir with slow and pedantic.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:30 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> As always, I question yet another British actor playing yet another
>> American for no good reason, but there was enough here to bring me back.
>>
>> On the other hand, I found so much to dislike in the reincarnation of
>> "True Detective" that I won't be back. Too many unpleasant characters,
>> amateurish acting (I'm lookin' at you, Kali Reis), the horror-movie tropes,
>> and an overall feel of trying too hard were all turnoffs.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 9:50:11 PM UTC-8 Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>>> I like noir. This is not quite noir, but it’s close. If I was watching
>>> it on AMC instead of iTunes I’d be frustrated by commercial breaks
>>> seemingly every two minutes, often in the middle of scenes. Aside from
>>> that, it’s worth taking a look at.
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Dukes of Hazzard was racist…

2024-02-20 Thread Kevin M.
This will really tick him off. Beyoncé debuted at #1 on the Country chart.
Yee haw!

https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/beyonce-texas-hold-em-number-1-hot-country-songs-chart-1235610582/


Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 6:24 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> Do we really believe John Schneider says anything worth paying attention
> to? The people who need to jump on this are the country music companies.
> The US is currently 41% non-white and the only demographic group that is
> overwhelmingly white is old people. If they don’t want to speak out for
> inclusivity they will have no future.
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 12:20 AM Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> … and John Schneider is now undeniably racist, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=john%20schneider%20beyonce=nws=sh/x/gs/m2/5
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver offers Clarence Thomas $1 million a year to resign

2024-02-19 Thread Kevin M.
HBO is now delaying posting the show on YouTube until Thursdays, hoping to
boost traffic to Max. Oliver hopes they will reconsider.

https://deadline.com/2024/02/last-week-tonight-john-oliver-main-story-release-delayed-youtube-hbo-1235831235/amp/


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On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 9:39 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> John Oliver returned from hiatus with a bang. He offered Clarence Thomas
> $1 million a year and a $2.5 million motor coach if he resigned from the
> Supreme Court within a month.
> Normally, I could post a YouTube link to that part of the show. But HBO
> hasn't posted the show yet. Here's a link to a poor pirated copy. The offer
> is around the 31 minute mark.
> https://youtu.be/YceyOgpj_RE?si=c1d7MPnHBv990oui
>
> I wonder if this indicates turmoil at HBO over the show.
>
> Oliver said he is paying Thomas' salary personally, not HBO. I am guessing
> left leaning millionaires will chip in if it means Thomas is off the court.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] George Santos sues Jimmy Kimmel over use of Cameos

2024-02-17 Thread Kevin M.
I don’t believe using a fake name on social media (even for-profit social
media) is a crime. It might violate Cameo’s TOS, but I doubt that could
even be the basis of a civil lawsuit.

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> Kimmel showed several Cameos they requested from Santos under fake names.
> He said he had more to show but stopped over Santos threatened to sue.
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> https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-santos-sues-jimmy-kimmel-for-pranking-him-on-cameo
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[TV orNotTV] The Dukes of Hazzard was racist…

2024-02-16 Thread Kevin M.
… and John Schneider is now undeniably racist, too.


https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=john%20schneider%20beyonce=nws=sh/x/gs/m2/5


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[TV orNotTV] Breaking News: Les Moonves is still a scumbag…

2024-02-16 Thread Kevin M.
… and certain ranking members of the LAPD are also bags of scum.

Moonves bribed a cop for inside information about the case against him. I’m
sure Julie Chen will tell her kids that daddy is innocent of these charges,
too.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/investigations/former-cbs-ceo-pays-fine-for-alleged-interference-in-lapd-investigation/3341886/?amp=1


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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The New Look

2024-02-15 Thread Kevin M.
I couldn’t stomach five minutes. The music amped up the life or death
intensity… of a fashion show. A dramatic story doesn’t have to be
over-dramatic to be compelling or engaging. You don’t have to inflate
tension to make a story interesting. I remember when I watched the first
episode of Downton Abbey, I thought to myself “Nothing happened in that
entire episode,” followed immediately by “when is the next episode airing?”
The New Look felt like a textbook example of trying way too hard.

On the Apple

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Wil Wheaton Attacks David for His 'Today' Show Elmo Assault

2024-02-10 Thread Kevin M.
Wil Wheaton has mental health issues that clearly need to be addressed and
dealt with. If Larry David and Elmo hadn’t triggered him, something else
would have.

Muppets got hit, thrown, strangled, and blown up countless times over the
last sixty years. Broad (often violent) physical comedy is a large part of
what they are. David committed no offense that he needs to apologize for.
Wheaton needs to take a look inside himself (or better yet have a mental
health expert do it) to determine why he reacted the way he did.

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On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> I long for the days when random outrage wouldn’t go viral and we would not
> be expected to have opinions about these things.
>
> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 12:20 PM Joe Hass  wrote:
>
>> M-D: It wound up being debunked.
>> https://people.com/homer-continue-strangle-bart-the-simpsons-says-co-creator-exclusive-8400789
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 11:16 AM M-D November 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Joe - "times have changed":
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/nov/07/homer-strangle-bart-simpsons
>>>
>>> Mark - I don't think Boomers give much of a damn about Elmo one way or
>>> the other; it's us GEN-Xers that have an undying hatred for Elmo (or, at
>>> least, I did until I became a dad and realized that Sesame Workshop knows
>>> what the hell they're doing...)
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 12:02:54 PM UTC-5 Joe Hass wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wheaton's not going to like many episodes of The Simpsons.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 10:55 AM Mark Jeffries 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In a long Facebook post, the "Star Trek:  TNG" star compared Larry
>>>>> David's attack on the "Sesame Street" Muppet beloved by present-day
>>>>> children but hated by Boomers who grew up with BIg Bird and Bert and Ernie
>>>>> when the character and his father appeared on the "Today" show while he 
>>>>> was
>>>>> waiting to go on to plug "Curb Your Enthusiasm," comparing it to treatment
>>>>> Wheaton's father gave him as a child--the response has been predictably
>>>>> mixed, with alleged journalist Glenn Greenwald, the former "Democracy 
>>>>> Now!"
>>>>> regular turned rightwinger among the more negative towards Wheaton:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/wil-wheaton-larry-david-elmo-attack-abused-1235819558/
>>>>>
>>>>> In case you forgot, the impetus for Elmo's appearance on "Today" was
>>>>> his Muskmedia account post where he asked people how they were feeling and
>>>>> thousands of people sincerely opened up to the little red-furred Muppet, 
>>>>> in
>>>>> some cases in great detail.
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