[twitter-dev] Re: all replies by friends

2009-05-13 Thread Swaroop

Umm, how do we discover new people?


[twitter-dev] Re: all replies by friends

2009-05-13 Thread Doug Williams
@chad
You just wanted to link to my typo :)

@all:
This is not an API issue so the discussion is somewhat off topic here. This
option's fate was a Twitter.com product decision and was axed by the product
folks, not the API team. @ev has said that he hears the small but vocal
minority of users that relied on this option for discovery. I'm sure we as a
company will talk about the impact, our options, and how to move forward
tomorrow.

Secondly, where is the entrepreneurial spirit to turn this into an
opportunity? For the users of this option, think about the ways having
@replies to strangers in your timeline helped you find people. How can you
use the API make similar connections? The data is still there, present it in
a compelling way. I'd use a service that sent an occasional email digest
like: The following 3 users were mentioned at least X number of times by
the people you follow, check 'em out.

Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw




On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Sarah Isaacson sarahisaac...@gmail.comwrote:


 I'm wondering what the justification is for removing the option for
 filtering replies?

 Surely with the way that you guys have included mentions, people will
 just circumvent this by not placing the @username at the start of the
 tweet?

 That leaves those who previously used the Show me @replies only for
 people I'm following with pretty much no option for any kind of
 filtering as people get around this. I think we'll particularly see
 this with the power users.

 Maybe I missed something?

 Regards,
 Sarah


 --
 Sarah Isaacson
 Flickr : http://www.flickr.com/photos/out/
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/velvetsarah
 Weblog: http://www.velvet.id.au
 Not a work of art or a showcase of my design skills, just a place for
 me to put my thoughts and get on my soapbox sometimes!



[twitter-dev] Re: all replies by friends

2009-05-13 Thread voorwiel

Yeah, lots of protest out there, just watch the 'Links to this post:'
below the Twitter blog post. There also is a hashtag to protest
against this decision: #fixreplies . It is already in the 'Trending
Topics' sidebar.

Let's see how this evolves...

Jack

On May 13, 7:19 am, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 In regard to Doug's recent tweet regarding this 
 change:http://twitter.com/dougw/status/1781551902

 As much as I hate for people to be upset with Twitter, I am partially
 happy to see I'm not the only one upset by this behavior change...  I
 could *swear* that show all @replies was the default at some point
 (maybe a long time ago when I joined).  Now my friend's timeline is
 just a closed loop, and for (at least) the power users and people that
 understood the setting, the timeline has gotten a lot less interesting
 to watch.

 I know I'm screaming into the wind... I'm just glad I'm not alone.

 -Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: Getting id for last status

2009-05-13 Thread Yazmin

I just tried posting from another server and it worked just fine!
*grrr*

So I guess that means there's something going on with my server and
the cURL install, maybe? Can someone try pointing me in the right
direction to see if I can get this corrected? (No sense in having a
development server if it's not working properly.) :/

Thanks!

On May 12, 7:40 pm, Peter Denton petermden...@gmail.com wrote:
 was that the problem? I ran a test with that script under a few different
 accounts and it was working fine. Did you try posting from another server?


[twitter-dev] in lieu of @replies, need better filters for applications

2009-05-13 Thread Ivan

Hi,

The recent @replies issue is a big problem for applications.

I think either the user needs to be given control, or API access needs
to be more flexible.

There are a multitude of apps that act like an echo of a set of users.
That is a really hard problem to solve if you aren't following the
whole set. In place of getting the friend stream, you would need to
poll each individually. With the API access limits, that inherently
prevents an app to scale beyond a few thousand users.

For example, in Tipjoy, we look for payment commands. We do this in 3
ways:
- Poll the search API across all Twitter users for keyword like 'tip'
'give' ,etc. Lots of users tweet the letter 'p' though
- Poll that same search but for an individual user in Tipjoy. This
takes a long time to cycle through all our users
- Poll @tipjoy's friends_timeline looking for payments

The third is by far the best option. But the change hurts the effort
as any payment from a user formatted like:
@ev p $2 wouldn't get caught.


Another app I'm building is @tatatweet**. It takes a set of twitter
users, and feeds their tweets to a single account. For example,
@TeamTipjoy is a test account that feeds tweets from Tipjoy employees.

Rather than poll each account individually, the app will make the
target account follow the sources. But every tweet starting with an
@reply will get filtered out, for no good reason as far as the app is
concerned.


I think one potential solution (in case the product people don't act)
is to give apps the ability to poll a set of users, with raw tweets
and all @replies. The model of having an app follow a user is a bit
klunky anyway.

Enable api endpoints to create, edit and share filters, which are sets
of users and perhaps a regex in place to filter the users. This would
also prevent the annoying following limits from being a problem. If a
user account is protected, mandate that your service authenticate as
the user to add them to the filter.

I'd pay for this.


Generally, changes put in place for a better user experience shouldn't
hurt applications. Users and apps are different.

Best,
Ivan
http://tipjoy.com

** @tatatweet is an open source premium twitter app built using
Tipjoy's API http://bit.ly/git_tatatweet
Please copy the code


[twitter-dev] Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford

Hi all,

Just a quick heads up. Our status id is fast approaching the
maximum unsigned integer value. Based on all of the feedback on
scaling I've received from this list I'm assuming everyone will be
fine. One thing to check is your table definitions … no amount of
interpreted language will save you from that. I think the tipping
point will be this afternoon sometime but with the planned maintenance
it might end up being later in the day.

Thanks;
  — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford

Make that *signed* integer. Writing too many emails at once, sorry.

On May 13, 7:38 am, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi all,

     Just a quick heads up. Our status id is fast approaching the
 maximum unsigned integer value. Based on all of the feedback on
 scaling I've received from this list I'm assuming everyone will be
 fine. One thing to check is your table definitions … no amount of
 interpreted language will save you from that. I think the tipping
 point will be this afternoon sometime but with the planned maintenance
 it might end up being later in the day.

 Thanks;
   — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Chad Etzel

I'm assuming this is just a friendly warning to developers... and that
the status IDs will continue to monotonically increase past (2^31 -
1), i.e. not rollover?

-Chad

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:

 Make that *signed* integer. Writing too many emails at once, sorry.

 On May 13, 7:38 am, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi all,

     Just a quick heads up. Our status id is fast approaching the
 maximum unsigned integer value. Based on all of the feedback on
 scaling I've received from this list I'm assuming everyone will be
 fine. One thing to check is your table definitions … no amount of
 interpreted language will save you from that. I think the tipping
 point will be this afternoon sometime but with the planned maintenance
 it might end up being later in the day.

 Thanks;
   — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Dossy Shiobara


When you say integer what are you referring to?  I'm _assuming_ 32-bit 
integers, not 64-bit integers, because ILP-32 is so commonplace.


When you're about to breach the 2^64 in your ID space, please give us a 
heads-up around 2^63 so we can upgrade our systems.  :)


On 5/13/09 10:40 AM, Matt Sanford wrote:

Make that *signed* integer. Writing too many emails at once, sorry.

On May 13, 7:38 am, Matt Sanfordm...@twitter.com  wrote:

Hi all,

 Just a quick heads up. Our status id is fast approaching the
maximum unsigned integer value. Based on all of the feedback on
scaling I've received from this list I'm assuming everyone will be
fine. One thing to check is your table definitions … no amount of
interpreted language will save you from that. I think the tipping
point will be this afternoon sometime but with the planned maintenance
it might end up being later in the day.

Thanks;
   — Matt Sanford / @mzsanford



--
Dossy Shiobara  | do...@panoptic.com | http://dossy.org/
Panoptic Computer Network   | http://panoptic.com/
  He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on. (p. 70)



[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:


 Make that *signed* integer. Writing too many emails at once, sorry.


That would be the MySQL (and any 32-bit OS) maximum signed integer, or
2,147,483,647,
I'm assuming.  So if we're using an unsigned INT in our tables, we're fine
for a while (months?) - status IDs will always be positive, right?  And
BIGINT, especially unsigned, is safe for a long, long time?

Just curious... does this mean Twitter really is closing in on 2 billion
tweets, or were some IDs skipped?  Is there a prize for whoever posts tweet
number 2 billion?  ;-)

Nick


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford

Hi Nick,

As mentioned to Dossy (probably still wending its way thought  
Google Groups) I did mean 32-bit signed integers. Unsigned ints in  
MySQL will be fine but the rails default is int(10) if I recall which  
would be a problem. As mentioned to Chad (Google Groups seems to be  
slow delivering my messages :/) status IDs will continue to increment  
as positive numbers. BIGINT and unsigned number should be fine for the  
time being, yes.
You know we don't comment on the number of users and tweets … but  
you almost tricked me. Sneaky, sneaky.


Thanks;
 – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 Twitter Dev

On May 13, 2009, at 8:13 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com  
wrote:


Make that *signed* integer. Writing too many emails at once, sorry.

That would be the MySQL (and any 32-bit OS) maximum signed integer,  
or 2,147,483,647, I'm assuming.  So if we're using an unsigned INT  
in our tables, we're fine for a while (months?) - status IDs will  
always be positive, right?  And BIGINT, especially unsigned, is safe  
for a long, long time?


Just curious... does this mean Twitter really is closing in on 2  
billion tweets, or were some IDs skipped?  Is there a prize for  
whoever posts tweet number 2 billion?  ;-)


Nick




[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Chad Etzel

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:
 When we breach 2^64 I'm not telling anyone … it seems to
 create more work for me when I send out friendly warnings :)

Well, if you *did* send out a warning at 2^64, it would mean either:

a) you have found the fountain of youth
b) you're a zombie
c) you wrote the most awesome cron job ever
d) you have a Delorean

-Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford


Have you not heard, we're tweeting from space these days. Birth rate  
changes are now considered optional.


No Humans Required™
  — Matt

On May 13, 2009, at 8:26 AM, Andrew Badera wrote:



or e) Twitter becomes even more massively popular while the world also
undergoes a birth rate revoluion.

Thanks-
- Andy Badera
- and...@badera.us
- Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew+badera
- This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com  
wrote:


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com  
wrote:

When we breach 2^64 I'm not telling anyone … it seems to
create more work for me when I send out friendly warnings :)


Well, if you *did* send out a warning at 2^64, it would mean either:

a) you have found the fountain of youth
b) you're a zombie
c) you wrote the most awesome cron job ever
d) you have a Delorean

-Chad





[twitter-dev] Re: Source request - no wait, listen...

2009-05-13 Thread Abraham Williams
So does this mean soon we will soon be able to use source=space and have it
look like we built our own rocket?

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 23:50, Arik Fraimovich arik...@gmail.com wrote:


 You guys rock ! :)

 On May 13, 2:10 am, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
  Wait, no really...
 
  I have a NASA contact that worked with us to make tweets flow from space.
  I'll ping him and see if we can get a source parameter patched into the
  update logic.
 
  Yay geeks!
 
  Thanks,
  Doug
  --
 
  Doug Williams
  Twitter Platform Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I know this may be goofy, but I think it would be awesome...
 
   You (twitter) should make a rule that when @Astro_Mike posts, it should
   say:
 
   xx minutes ago from SPACE!
 
   zomg that would rock.
 
   -Chad
 
 




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Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham
Web608 | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org
This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.


[twitter-dev] API FAQ can be reached in office but cann't at home

2009-05-13 Thread Coonay

http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQ can be reached in office,where IE PROXY
is needed .but it cann't be reached at home(direct internet
coonnection),where i cann't use the proxy.Is there any access
restriction to access the API site .

PS: the http://twitter.com/ can be reached both office and home


[twitter-dev] Re: [OAuth] GET parameters

2009-05-13 Thread Dmitriy Vyukov

On May 12, 10:40 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:
 Hi there,

      The parameters should be required for the OAuth signature. Can  
 you please provide the request and response headers for an example?


Hi Matt,

Forget about that nonsense, the fault was on my side. Now works as
expected.
When I've tried to collect headers and all other debug info, I've
noticed that GET parameters was just not appended to the URL. So
actual URL was http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml, not
surprisingly that you did not include my GET parameters into signature
calculation :)


--
Best regards,
Dmitriy V'jukov


[twitter-dev] Oauth SIgn-in

2009-05-13 Thread Jason Wong

Has anyone noticed that the Oauth Sign in for users is again constantly 
asking to allow / deny even though the account has already granted access?

I know this was the case before, but then it started detecting. And now 
it's back to this. Anyone else experiencing this?

Jason.


[twitter-dev] twitter on mobile

2009-05-13 Thread Omkaaraa

Hi all,

I had come here few days back also. now again after preparing my
design. I want to write twitter application which will contain my own
feature also, for MOBILE. for the time being, just forget which mobile
I am going to use. Instead of J2ME, I will use similar framework.
From here only I had got info about list of API's to develop twitter
application. But I need API's for J2ME in fact. I have not gone in
depth of these technical terms till now as far as mobile and twitter
api's are concern because I was working with GUI and data flow of my
own concept (which dont need any space on web server now because i
have changed it a bit).

So, would you please help me from where I will get those API's which
will run on J2ME platform?

please guide me properly considering I have basic idea of J2ME and
developing twitter application as well.

Thanks and Regards,

Omi
learner.


[twitter-dev] Few questions about rate limiting

2009-05-13 Thread szimek

Hi,

I'm using Sign in with twitter functionality - since account/
verify_credentials request is rate limited, how can I otherwise get
info about authenticated user?

How exactly requests are limited? I.e. I got 100 users logged in in my
web app and they all display page with their friends/followers list.
Will these requests be counted for these users' accounts or IP of my
server?

What's the limit for search requests? We're using jsonp for fetching
search results, so at least in this case the limit is for client's IP.
Is it ok to make search request i.e. every 15s?

Thanks in advance


[twitter-dev] Invalid JSON

2009-05-13 Thread Bill Kocik

Consider this status:

http://twitter.com/primerano/status/1784283306

The JSON for this, as found at http://twitter.com/statuses/show/1784283306.json,
is below (prettified by JSONLint - which, by the way, calls it valid).
Both Crack and ActiveSupport::JSON refuse to parse it, returning the
error Invalid JSON string. Can anyone see why? My first thought was
the emoticon in the status text, :-\, but even with that removed the
parsers fail.

Console:
 json_string = EOS
{
text: loving that I turned my 22 inch monitor  sideways.  great
for reading pdfs but the sta
nd doesn't support this configuration.,
in_reply_to_status_id: null,
user: {
description: web geek, accomplishment junkie, parent and
System Architect at AOL,
time_zone: Eastern Time (US  Canada),
utc_offset: -18000,
profile_sidebar_fill_color: e0ff92,
following: 0,
favourites_count: 0,
profile_sidebar_border_color: 87bc44,
profile_background_tile: true,
followers_count: 146,
url: http:\/\/tonycode.com\/,
name: Tony Primerano,
protected: false,
friends_count: 112,
profile_background_color: 9ae4e8,
created_at: Fri Jun 22 20:36:59 + 2007,
notifications: false,
statuses_count: 1973,
profile_background_image_url: http:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/
twitter_production\/profile_bac
kground_images\/1259422\/pattern2.JPG,
profile_text_color: 00,
profile_image_url: http:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/
twitter_production\/profile_images\/745684
29\/fire-1_normal.jpg,
location: DC Area,
id: 7023582,
profile_link_color: ff,
screen_name: primerano
},
in_reply_to_user_id: null,
favorited: false,
in_reply_to_screen_name: null,
created_at: Wed May 13 13:33:03 + 2009,
id: 1784283306,
truncated: false,
source: a href=\http:\/\/www.tweetdeck.com\/\TweetDeck\/
a
}
EOS
 Crack::JSON.parse(json_string)
Crack::ParseError: Invalid JSON string
from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/crack-0.1.1/lib/crack/json.rb:
14:in `parse'
from (irb):40
 ActiveSupport::JSON.decode(json_string)
ActiveSupport::JSON::ParseError: Invalid JSON string
from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.3.2/lib/
active_support/json/decoding.rb:14:in `decode'
from (irb):41


[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API's XML format

2009-05-13 Thread Chad Etzel

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:38 AM, bnagykek...@gmail.com
bnagykek...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Let me give an other point of view. By definition an XML must contain
 one and only one root document.

...Only from the point of view of the parser. If the parser is reset
upon each new status, then it wouldn't really care.
-Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API's XML format

2009-05-13 Thread Ianiv Schweber
I'm trying the delimited parameter but I don't see any difference in the
feed. I find it's description in the docs a little confusing:

Indicates that statuses should be delimited in the stream. Statuses are
represented by a length, in bytes, a newline, and the status text that is
exactly length bytes. Note that keep-alive newlines may be inserted before
each length. Values: length in bytes (integer)

Makes it sound like I have to use

http://stream.twitter.com/spritzer.xml?delimiter=length

But what is length in this case? No matter what I use, the feed always looks
the same.


In terms of efficiency, it would seem to me that letting the parser read
directly from one never ending XML document using a callback every time it
parses a status is better than having to wrap the parser inside another one
that splits the feed into documents then parsing each document individually.

Ianiv Schweber
ia...@blogaholics.ca
Skype: ianivs
Public Key: http://www.blogaholics.ca/ianivpubkey.asc



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:24 AM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:


 Ianiv,

 I'm glad you are giving the XML feed a close examination. Nearly all
 consumers so far have been on the JSON feed.

 The statuses begin their life upstream from Hosebird as these fully-
 formed documents. Hosebird doesn't alter their contents, as it's
 conceptualized as middleware and not a data-changing application. Both
 the XML and JSON feed are pretty symmetrical.

 I've found it easiest to parse the markup by using the delimited
 parameter to read an entire status at once, and then pass that on to
 the XML parser. If it is considerably more efficient to do something
 else, perhaps we can make a change.

 -John


 On May 12, 9:38 pm, Ianiv  Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
  Currently the spritzer stream looks like:
 
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
  status  /status
  \n
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
  status  /status
  \n
  ...
 
  I'm wondering why it contains a stream of XML documents instead of
  just one never ending document with the same format as the public
  timeline:
 
  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
  statuses
  status.../status
  status.../status
  status.../status
  ...
 
  To me it seems like it would be a lot easier just passing a stream
  like this to a parser. Instead, with the current stream of documents
  one has to look out for new prologs, split the stream at that point,
  parse that doc, reset the parser and continue. Not an insurmountable
  problem, but it seems like a lot of extra work that shouldn't really
  be needed.
 
  Just wondering what everyone else thinks.
 
  Ianiv Schweber



[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid JSON

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford


Hi Bill,

My first guess would be the URL fields. We escape the / in the  
URL which is optional [1]. I don't know either of the libraries  
showing the problem very well but you might want to try without the  
URL fields and see if that works to confirm.


Thanks;
 – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 Twitter Dev

[1] - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/json/message/249

On May 13, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Bill Kocik wrote:



Consider this status:

http://twitter.com/primerano/status/1784283306

The JSON for this, as found at http://twitter.com/statuses/show/1784283306.json 
,

is below (prettified by JSONLint - which, by the way, calls it valid).
Both Crack and ActiveSupport::JSON refuse to parse it, returning the
error Invalid JSON string. Can anyone see why? My first thought was
the emoticon in the status text, :-\, but even with that removed the
parsers fail.

Console:

json_string = EOS

{
   text: loving that I turned my 22 inch monitor  sideways.  great
for reading pdfs but the sta
nd doesn't support this configuration.,
   in_reply_to_status_id: null,
   user: {
   description: web geek, accomplishment junkie, parent and
System Architect at AOL,
   time_zone: Eastern Time (US  Canada),
   utc_offset: -18000,
   profile_sidebar_fill_color: e0ff92,
   following: 0,
   favourites_count: 0,
   profile_sidebar_border_color: 87bc44,
   profile_background_tile: true,
   followers_count: 146,
   url: http:\/\/tonycode.com\/,
   name: Tony Primerano,
   protected: false,
   friends_count: 112,
   profile_background_color: 9ae4e8,
   created_at: Fri Jun 22 20:36:59 + 2007,
   notifications: false,
   statuses_count: 1973,
   profile_background_image_url: http:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/
twitter_production\/profile_bac
kground_images\/1259422\/pattern2.JPG,
   profile_text_color: 00,
   profile_image_url: http:\/\/s3.amazonaws.com\/
twitter_production\/profile_images\/745684
29\/fire-1_normal.jpg,
   location: DC Area,
   id: 7023582,
   profile_link_color: ff,
   screen_name: primerano
   },
   in_reply_to_user_id: null,
   favorited: false,
   in_reply_to_screen_name: null,
   created_at: Wed May 13 13:33:03 + 2009,
   id: 1784283306,
   truncated: false,
   source: a href=\http:\/\/www.tweetdeck.com\/\TweetDeck\/
a
}
EOS

Crack::JSON.parse(json_string)

Crack::ParseError: Invalid JSON string
   from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/crack-0.1.1/lib/crack/json.rb:
14:in `parse'
   from (irb):40

ActiveSupport::JSON.decode(json_string)

ActiveSupport::JSON::ParseError: Invalid JSON string
   from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activesupport-2.3.2/lib/
active_support/json/decoding.rb:14:in `decode'
   from (irb):41




[twitter-dev] Re: Oauth SIgn-in

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford


Hi there,

There was a fix yesterday that fixed an error where the previous  
logged in users information was being returned when using force_login.  
When verifying that fix in production we came across the same issue  
you're reporting and a fix is waiting to go out. I've also managed to  
create a reproducible test case so we can keep this from happening  
again in the future. With the maintence window today it might be  
tomorrow before the fix goes out. I'll update the change log when it  
does.


Thanks;
 – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 Twitter Dev

On May 13, 2009, at 7:11 AM, Jason Wong wrote:



Has anyone noticed that the Oauth Sign in for users is again  
constantly
asking to allow / deny even though the account has already granted  
access?


I know this was the case before, but then it started detecting. And  
now

it's back to this. Anyone else experiencing this?

Jason.




[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API's XML format

2009-05-13 Thread John Kalucki

The delimited=length option causes the length, in bytes, of the next
status to be placed in the stream. You should see:

...
/status

1704
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
status
...

Whereas, without the parameter, you see:
...
/status

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
status
...

The length allows you process the stream deterministically, with no
error-prone pre-parsing and with the minimum number of reads. This
also ensures that you call your parser exactly once per status.
There's some pseudo code in the API docs that shows how this might
work:

  while (true) {
do {
  lengthBytes = readline()
} while (lengthBytes.length  1)
parseMarkup(read(Integer(lengthBytes).parseInt()))
  }

-John


On May 13, 9:00 am, Ianiv Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm trying the delimited parameter but I don't see any difference in the
 feed. I find it's description in the docs a little confusing:

 Indicates that statuses should be delimited in the stream. Statuses are
 represented by a length, in bytes, a newline, and the status text that is
 exactly length bytes. Note that keep-alive newlines may be inserted before
 each length. Values: length in bytes (integer)

 Makes it sound like I have to use

 http://stream.twitter.com/spritzer.xml?delimiter=length

 But what is length in this case? No matter what I use, the feed always looks
 the same.

 In terms of efficiency, it would seem to me that letting the parser read
 directly from one never ending XML document using a callback every time it
 parses a status is better than having to wrap the parser inside another one
 that splits the feed into documents then parsing each document individually.

 Ianiv Schweber
 ia...@blogaholics.ca
 Skype: ianivs
 Public Key:http://www.blogaholics.ca/ianivpubkey.asc

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:24 AM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ianiv,

  I'm glad you are giving the XML feed a close examination. Nearly all
  consumers so far have been on the JSON feed.

  The statuses begin their life upstream from Hosebird as these fully-
  formed documents. Hosebird doesn't alter their contents, as it's
  conceptualized as middleware and not a data-changing application. Both
  the XML and JSON feed are pretty symmetrical.

  I've found it easiest to parse the markup by using the delimited
  parameter to read an entire status at once, and then pass that on to
  the XML parser. If it is considerably more efficient to do something
  else, perhaps we can make a change.

  -John

  On May 12, 9:38 pm, Ianiv  Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
   Currently the spritzer stream looks like:

   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   status  /status
   \n
   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   status  /status
   \n
   ...

   I'm wondering why it contains a stream of XML documents instead of
   just one never ending document with the same format as the public
   timeline:

   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   statuses
   status.../status
   status.../status
   status.../status
   ...

   To me it seems like it would be a lot easier just passing a stream
   like this to a parser. Instead, with the current stream of documents
   one has to look out for new prologs, split the stream at that point,
   parse that doc, reset the parser and continue. Not an insurmountable
   problem, but it seems like a lot of extra work that shouldn't really
   be needed.

   Just wondering what everyone else thinks.

   Ianiv Schweber


[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API's XML format

2009-05-13 Thread Ianiv Schweber
Ok, so delimited=length does work. The docs say the value for delimited
must be a number, which is why I was confused.


Ianiv Schweber
ia...@blogaholics.ca
Skype: ianivs
Public Key: http://www.blogaholics.ca/ianivpubkey.asc



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:


 The delimited=length option causes the length, in bytes, of the next
 status to be placed in the stream. You should see:

 ...
 /status

 1704
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 status
 ...

 Whereas, without the parameter, you see:
 ...
 /status

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 status
 ...

 The length allows you process the stream deterministically, with no
 error-prone pre-parsing and with the minimum number of reads. This
 also ensures that you call your parser exactly once per status.
 There's some pseudo code in the API docs that shows how this might
 work:

  while (true) {
do {
  lengthBytes = readline()
} while (lengthBytes.length  1)
parseMarkup(read(Integer(lengthBytes).parseInt()))
  }

 -John


 On May 13, 9:00 am, Ianiv Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm trying the delimited parameter but I don't see any difference in the
  feed. I find it's description in the docs a little confusing:
 
  Indicates that statuses should be delimited in the stream. Statuses are
  represented by a length, in bytes, a newline, and the status text that is
  exactly length bytes. Note that keep-alive newlines may be inserted
 before
  each length. Values: length in bytes (integer)
 
  Makes it sound like I have to use
 
  http://stream.twitter.com/spritzer.xml?delimiter=length
 
  But what is length in this case? No matter what I use, the feed always
 looks
  the same.
 
  In terms of efficiency, it would seem to me that letting the parser read
  directly from one never ending XML document using a callback every time
 it
  parses a status is better than having to wrap the parser inside another
 one
  that splits the feed into documents then parsing each document
 individually.
 
  Ianiv Schweber
  ia...@blogaholics.ca
  Skype: ianivs
  Public Key:http://www.blogaholics.ca/ianivpubkey.asc
 
  On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:24 AM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Ianiv,
 
   I'm glad you are giving the XML feed a close examination. Nearly all
   consumers so far have been on the JSON feed.
 
   The statuses begin their life upstream from Hosebird as these fully-
   formed documents. Hosebird doesn't alter their contents, as it's
   conceptualized as middleware and not a data-changing application. Both
   the XML and JSON feed are pretty symmetrical.
 
   I've found it easiest to parse the markup by using the delimited
   parameter to read an entire status at once, and then pass that on to
   the XML parser. If it is considerably more efficient to do something
   else, perhaps we can make a change.
 
   -John
 
   On May 12, 9:38 pm, Ianiv  Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
Currently the spritzer stream looks like:
 
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
status  /status
\n
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
status  /status
\n
...
 
I'm wondering why it contains a stream of XML documents instead of
just one never ending document with the same format as the public
timeline:
 
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
statuses
status.../status
status.../status
status.../status
...
 
To me it seems like it would be a lot easier just passing a stream
like this to a parser. Instead, with the current stream of documents
one has to look out for new prologs, split the stream at that point,
parse that doc, reset the parser and continue. Not an insurmountable
problem, but it seems like a lot of extra work that shouldn't really
be needed.
 
Just wondering what everyone else thinks.
 
Ianiv Schweber



[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API's XML format

2009-05-13 Thread John Kalucki

Another benefit for large-scale feeds: You can get some parallelism
fairly easily. You can pipeline your parsing step by having one thread
read fully-formed statuses and pass the markup parsing and subsequent
processing off to a thread pool. This may not seem line an issue yet,
but the /firehose will soon, in all likelihood, swamp a single core.

-John

On May 13, 9:00 am, Ianiv Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm trying the delimited parameter but I don't see any difference in the
 feed. I find it's description in the docs a little confusing:

 Indicates that statuses should be delimited in the stream. Statuses are
 represented by a length, in bytes, a newline, and the status text that is
 exactly length bytes. Note that keep-alive newlines may be inserted before
 each length. Values: length in bytes (integer)

 Makes it sound like I have to use

 http://stream.twitter.com/spritzer.xml?delimiter=length

 But what is length in this case? No matter what I use, the feed always looks
 the same.

 In terms of efficiency, it would seem to me that letting the parser read
 directly from one never ending XML document using a callback every time it
 parses a status is better than having to wrap the parser inside another one
 that splits the feed into documents then parsing each document individually.

 Ianiv Schweber
 ia...@blogaholics.ca
 Skype: ianivs
 Public Key:http://www.blogaholics.ca/ianivpubkey.asc

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:24 AM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:

  Ianiv,

  I'm glad you are giving the XML feed a close examination. Nearly all
  consumers so far have been on the JSON feed.

  The statuses begin their life upstream from Hosebird as these fully-
  formed documents. Hosebird doesn't alter their contents, as it's
  conceptualized as middleware and not a data-changing application. Both
  the XML and JSON feed are pretty symmetrical.

  I've found it easiest to parse the markup by using the delimited
  parameter to read an entire status at once, and then pass that on to
  the XML parser. If it is considerably more efficient to do something
  else, perhaps we can make a change.

  -John

  On May 12, 9:38 pm, Ianiv  Schweber ian...@gmail.com wrote:
   Currently the spritzer stream looks like:

   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   status  /status
   \n
   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   status  /status
   \n
   ...

   I'm wondering why it contains a stream of XML documents instead of
   just one never ending document with the same format as the public
   timeline:

   ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
   statuses
   status.../status
   status.../status
   status.../status
   ...

   To me it seems like it would be a lot easier just passing a stream
   like this to a parser. Instead, with the current stream of documents
   one has to look out for new prologs, split the stream at that point,
   parse that doc, reset the parser and continue. Not an insurmountable
   problem, but it seems like a lot of extra work that shouldn't really
   be needed.

   Just wondering what everyone else thinks.

   Ianiv Schweber


[twitter-dev] Re: Few questions about rate limiting

2009-05-13 Thread Josh Roesslein
The hits are charged to the user's account if you authenticate. If you don't
provide
authentication credentials then the hits are charged to your IP address.
You are limited to 100 requests per a hour. This limit applies to all API
endpoints that are rate limited.
So calling a search every 15s will cause you to run out of requests pretty
quick.

Hope that clears things up for you.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM, szimek szi...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm using Sign in with twitter functionality - since account/
 verify_credentials request is rate limited, how can I otherwise get
 info about authenticated user?

 How exactly requests are limited? I.e. I got 100 users logged in in my
 web app and they all display page with their friends/followers list.
 Will these requests be counted for these users' accounts or IP of my
 server?

 What's the limit for search requests? We're using jsonp for fetching
 search results, so at least in this case the limit is for client's IP.
 Is it ok to make search request i.e. every 15s?

 Thanks in advance



[twitter-dev] Re: Few questions about rate limiting

2009-05-13 Thread Josh Roesslein
Correction:

Search API uses a higher limit then the other endpoints. It is not
documented in the API, so I'm not sure what the limit would be.

http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Rate-limiting

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Josh Roesslein jroessl...@gmail.comwrote:

 The hits are charged to the user's account if you authenticate. If you
 don't provide
 authentication credentials then the hits are charged to your IP address.
 You are limited to 100 requests per a hour. This limit applies to all API
 endpoints that are rate limited.
 So calling a search every 15s will cause you to run out of requests pretty
 quick.

 Hope that clears things up for you.


 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:59 AM, szimek szi...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm using Sign in with twitter functionality - since account/
 verify_credentials request is rate limited, how can I otherwise get
 info about authenticated user?

 How exactly requests are limited? I.e. I got 100 users logged in in my
 web app and they all display page with their friends/followers list.
 Will these requests be counted for these users' accounts or IP of my
 server?

 What's the limit for search requests? We're using jsonp for fetching
 search results, so at least in this case the limit is for client's IP.
 Is it ok to make search request i.e. every 15s?

 Thanks in advance





[twitter-dev] User Icon in RSS Feed?

2009-05-13 Thread 51productions

I'm building a little sidebar on a website with a twitter RSS feed,
and I'd love to be able to use the user icons with it. I do not see
this included in the feed, nor do they appear to have consistent URLs.
Is there anyway to do this?

I only found one post on the matter from two years ago in which it was
said that the developers were getting to it. Has that happened yet?


[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid JSON

2009-05-13 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 I'm waiting on a JS expert I know to get back to his desk to tell me
 whether {a:b\\} is valid JSON or not (as before, JSONLint says it
 is).

I read it as valid (i.e., DOUBLEQUOTE b BACKSLASH DOUBLEQUOTE).

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -- G. Marx -


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 I see that the product manager/APIs position is still on your site... does
 that mean the position is still open?  Does teasing the API team help as a
 qualification?

It may get you an interview, but only so they can surreptitiously get a
photo and send it to the nice Italian men with the kneecappers.

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them. ---


[twitter-dev] Re: Invalid JSON

2009-05-13 Thread Bill Kocik


Yeah, JSONLint calls it valid, and every JS person I've talked to says
it should be valid - so it seems there's a bug in ActiveSupport.

In any case, this isn't Twitter's problem. Thanks...


On May 13, 1:42 pm, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:
  I'm waiting on a JS expert I know to get back to his desk to tell me
  whether {a:b\\} is valid JSON or not (as before, JSONLint says it
  is).

 I read it as valid (i.e., DOUBLEQUOTE b BACKSLASH DOUBLEQUOTE).

 --
  personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/--
   Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com
 -- Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -- G. Marx 
 -


[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-05-13 Thread Marco Kaiser
John,

this looks pretty interesting!

Two questions:

1) you are requiring to send a username and password for Basic Auth - how
does that map to apps / services using OAuth, as they won't have access to a
user's passwords? (and related, how does this fit into your general roadmap
to move everything to OAuth?)

2) the docs only mention http as a protocol, not https. In combination with
requiring passwords, only making http available seems quite unsecure. Any
plans to also support https soon (or any other mechanism which gives better
security?)

Thanks,
Marco

2009/5/13 John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com


 Chad,

 Yes, I think this is called POSTDATA in browsers. I don't recall what
 the actual name of this part of the HTTP protocol is, but it's the
 body section after the headers.

 I corrected the file name error. Thanks.

 -John



 On May 12, 8:49 pm, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi John,
 
  /follow looks very interesting.  Since you're asking for feedback
 
  I'm copying the follow parameter example documentation:
 
  Example: Create a file called 'follow' that contains, exactly and
  excluding the quotation marks: follow=12 13 15 16 20 87. Execute:
  curl -d @followinghttp://stream.twitter.com/follow.json
  -uAnyTwitterUser:Password.You will receive JSON updates from Jack Biz,
  Crystal, Ev, Krissy, but not from Jeremy, as he's a private user.
 
  I'm assuming that follow is just a POSTDATA variable in the normal
  case (you're just using curl's file posting ability in the example)?
 
  In the example, should the file be called following instead of
  follow (since you are using -d @following in the curl line)?
 
  Thanks,
  -Chad
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Note: The Streaming API is currently under a limited alpha test,
   details below.
 
   The /follow Streaming API resource is now publicly available. This
   resource streams near-real-time public updates posted by an arbitrary
   set of users. Streaming by user_id may be interesting to a variety of
   developers who wish to provide a nearly instantaneous experience
   without the drawbacks of continuous polling, polling rate limits, auto-
   following and follow limits.
 
   For example, a desktop client could simulate a user's /home timeline,
   minus private updates and mentions, via the /follow resource.
   Continuous polling would no longer be necessary or desired. Upon
   receipt of a new streamed message, the REST API may be periodically
   polled to back-fill mentions, private statuses and other updates not
   available via the Streaming API.
 
   This stream may also be interesting to service developers that follow
   their subscribers solely to receive their replies or for data mining
   purposes. Auto-following, following limit and rate limit hassles could
   be exchanged for real-time streaming subscriber updates.
 
   Currently this resource is limited to following 200 user_ids.
   Developers requiring considerably more followings and/or back-filling
   via the count parameter should consider applying for the restricted
   /shadow resource.
 
   Feedback is encouraged as we determine the ease-of-use, value, tuning
   and operational viability of this resource. With any luck, streaming
   might also be easier on the Twitter service. Our flock of orange whale-
   hoisting birds are pretty tuckered out.
 
   Important Alpha Test Note:
   The Streaming API (aka Hosebird) is currently under an alpha test. All
   developers using the Streaming API must tolerate possible unannounced
   and extended periods of unavailability, especially during off-hours,
   Pacific Time. New features, resources and policies are being deployed
   on very little, if any, notice. Any developer may experiment with the
   unrestricted resources and provide feedback via this list. Access to
   restricted resources is extremely limited and is only granted on a
   case-by-case basis after acceptance of an additional terms of service
   document. Documentation is available:
 http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Streaming-API-Documentation.



[twitter-dev] Re: twitter on mobile

2009-05-13 Thread Omkaaraa

One more silly question.. I still wonder how to find
friends_timeline (xml/json).

http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml

I mean, http://twitter.com/statuses/ after this URL.. how I will know
that which name (with .xml or .json) I am suppose to write?? from
where I will get those lists where names like friends_timeline is
mentioned??

I am new so please help me.



On May 13, 6:59 pm, Omkaaraa badshaah.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I had come here few days back also. now again after preparing my
 design. I want to write twitter application which will contain my own
 feature also, for MOBILE. for the time being, just forget which mobile
 I am going to use. Instead of J2ME, I will use similar framework.
 From here only I had got info about list of API's to develop twitter
 application. But I need API's for J2ME in fact. I have not gone in
 depth of these technical terms till now as far as mobile and twitter
 api's are concern because I was working with GUI and data flow of my
 own concept (which dont need any space on web server now because i
 have changed it a bit).

 So, would you please help me from where I will get those API's which
 will run on J2ME platform?

 please guide me properly considering I have basic idea of J2ME and
 developing twitter application as well.

 Thanks and Regards,

 Omi
 learner.


[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Matt Sanford


Quick update …

While looking at the code that reminded me of this error I see it  
had some bugs of its own. We seem to have a matter of weeks rather  
than days before this change. Mobile developers and other who deride  
our lack of early notice take heed … now is the time to go unsigned.


Thanks;
 – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
 Twitter Dev

On May 13, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:



I see that the product manager/APIs position is still on your  
site... does
that mean the position is still open?  Does teasing the API team  
help as a

qualification?


It may get you an interview, but only so they can surreptitiously  
get a

photo and send it to the nice Italian men with the kneecappers.

--
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ 
 --

 Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them.  
---




[twitter-dev] Re: all replies by friends

2009-05-13 Thread Kee Hinckley


On May 13, 2009, at 2:50 AM, voorwiel wrote:

Yeah, lots of protest out there, just watch the 'Links to this post:'
below the Twitter blog post. There also is a hashtag to protest
against this decision: #fixreplies . It is already in the 'Trending
Topics' sidebar.

Let's see how this evolves...


I'm happy to say that I created that hashtag.

@biz has posted and claimed that the reason for this change has to do  
with the underlying system architecture, which wasn't going to support  
viewing replies to unfollowed people much longer. (Personally, my mind  
boggles at that, filtering replies by a dynamically changing list of  
people is *easier* than not filtering them at all? Whatever.) Clearly  
this is a side effect of an architecture change in the past, since  
originally @foo didn't mean anything at all to the database. So  
somebody made an architecture decision sometime ago without  
considering the social ramifications. That sucks. My recommendation is  
to back the change out real quick to mollify folks, and then have an  
emergency meeting about how you're going to fix the architecture  
before whatever you did wrong breaks it--because you just took the  
viral out of Twitter. (And worse, made #followfriday a permanent  
fixture!)


How major a change is this?

Well, I wouldn't have my current job, house or girlfriend without  
being able to see other people's replies. I wouldn't have hired my  
virtual admin, or had a vacation this summer in Florida. I have two  
sets of friends who wouldn't be engaged without that feature. There  
are high-level analysts following me because I interjected something  
useful into a conversation they were having with a client--that  
wouldn't have happened. There are people I don't know, whose problems  
I solved because I saw a friend talking with them--that wouldn't have  
happened.


On May 13, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Doug Williams wrote:
Secondly, where is the entrepreneurial spirit to turn this into an  
opportunity? For the users of this option, think about the ways  
having @replies to strangers in your timeline helped you find  
people. How can you use the API make similar connections? The data  
is still there, present it in a compelling way. I'd use a service  
that sent an occasional email digest like: The following 3 users  
were mentioned at least X number of times by the people you follow,  
check 'em out.


Somewhere along the line, Twitter appears to have fallen for the add  
10,000 followers in one month crap. This isn't about how many people  
you can follow. This isn't some grade school popularity competition.  
This is about conversations. It's about listening to people talk to  
each other, learning who you like, who you don't. It's about learning  
new things and helping other people. There *is* no replacement for  
this feature that will provide the same functionality, or even *close*  
to the functionality. This isn't an opportunity for a third-party to  
use the API, this is an opportunity for Google to eat your lunch.


Were lots of people using the feature? I have no idea. Certainly your  
core early adopters were. Certainly the social media folks (who write  
most of your press) were. Are the new folks who come to follow celebs  
or just chat with their friends using it? No, probably not. The fact  
of the matter is the UI for that setting sucked rocks. First you have  
the fundamental confusion between followers (a noun) and  
following (a verb AND a noun). Put the two together and you can  
figure it out, have following by itself, and you have no idea. That  
you get used to, but it's confusing to new users. Add in that  
sometimes the site talks about friends--g*d knows what those are.  
Then you attempted to explain the settings in a menu item instead of  
using a simple English sentence, and finally you had the wrong default  
(don't see replies sent to people I don't follow) for new users. Every  
time I told someone about that setting, they were like Oh! *That's*  
why I never saw anyone talking! I *knew* what the settings did and I  
still found the text confusing. Whenever I told someone about it, I  
had to reread the site to make sure I got it right. Blaming lack of  
use on a bad UI is just lazy.


Twitter is a transport. Different people use it very differently. What  
Twitter just did is like someone taking email and deciding that  
mailing lists aren't really very important, since they are used by  
very few people, so we'll just remove the ability to have a mailing  
list. After all, it simplifies authentication, and it reduces traffic.  
Unfortunately, a core set of very important people really, really need  
mailing lists. It's how they network, meet people, develop ideas, and  
improve software like... Twitter. Oops.






[twitter-dev] Re: User Icon in RSS Feed?

2009-05-13 Thread Shannon Whitley

I don't think anything has changed.  You can take a look at SPIURL   -
http://code.google.com/p/spiurl/

On May 13, 10:35 am, 51productions chrisgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm building a little sidebar on a website with a twitter RSS feed,
 and I'd love to be able to use the user icons with it. I do not see
 this included in the feed, nor do they appear to have consistent URLs.
 Is there anyway to do this?

 I only found one post on the matter from two years ago in which it was
 said that the developers were getting to it. Has that happened yet?


[twitter-dev] Re: all replies by friends

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Payne
As I mentioned on Twitter: only 3% of users had opted to see replies to
users they weren't following. Given that this setting was putting the hurt
on our servers, we decided to remove it in the interest of a faster, more
reliable Twitter experience for the vast majority of users. We have,
however, heard the feedback.

We have a conversation underway internally about bringing back this feature.
My impression is that if it's technically feasible to do so, we'll take the
user feedback we've received under consideration and bring it back. If it's
not, we'll try to deliver an experience that's similar but supportable in
the long term.
We're aware of this issue and the arguments involved. As this discussion
isn't directly related to the API, let's move on. Thanks.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:31, Kee Hinckley naz...@somewhere.com wrote:


 On May 13, 2009, at 2:50 AM, voorwiel wrote:

 Yeah, lots of protest out there, just watch the 'Links to this post:'
 below the Twitter blog post. There also is a hashtag to protest
 against this decision: #fixreplies . It is already in the 'Trending
 Topics' sidebar.

 Let's see how this evolves...


 I'm happy to say that I created that hashtag.

 @biz has posted and claimed that the reason for this change has to do with
 the underlying system architecture, which wasn't going to support viewing
 replies to unfollowed people much longer. (Personally, my mind boggles at
 that, filtering replies by a dynamically changing list of people is *easier*
 than not filtering them at all? Whatever.) Clearly this is a side effect of
 an architecture change in the past, since originally @foo didn't mean
 anything at all to the database. So somebody made an architecture decision
 sometime ago without considering the social ramifications. That sucks. My
 recommendation is to back the change out real quick to mollify folks, and
 then have an emergency meeting about how you're going to fix the
 architecture before whatever you did wrong breaks it--because you just took
 the viral out of Twitter. (And worse, made #followfriday a permanent
 fixture!)

 How major a change is this?

 Well, I wouldn't have my current job, house or girlfriend without being
 able to see other people's replies. I wouldn't have hired my virtual admin,
 or had a vacation this summer in Florida. I have two sets of friends who
 wouldn't be engaged without that feature. There are high-level analysts
 following me because I interjected something useful into a conversation they
 were having with a client--that wouldn't have happened. There are people I
 don't know, whose problems I solved because I saw a friend talking with
 them--that wouldn't have happened.

 On May 13, 2009, at 3:08 AM, Doug Williams wrote:

 Secondly, where is the entrepreneurial spirit to turn this into an
 opportunity? For the users of this option, think about the ways having
 @replies to strangers in your timeline helped you find people. How can you
 use the API make similar connections? The data is still there, present it in
 a compelling way. I'd use a service that sent an occasional email digest
 like: The following 3 users were mentioned at least X number of times by
 the people you follow, check 'em out.


 Somewhere along the line, Twitter appears to have fallen for the add
 10,000 followers in one month crap. This isn't about how many people you
 can follow. This isn't some grade school popularity competition. This is
 about conversations. It's about listening to people talk to each other,
 learning who you like, who you don't. It's about learning new things and
 helping other people. There *is* no replacement for this feature that will
 provide the same functionality, or even *close* to the functionality. This
 isn't an opportunity for a third-party to use the API, this is an
 opportunity for Google to eat your lunch.

 Were lots of people using the feature? I have no idea. Certainly your core
 early adopters were. Certainly the social media folks (who write most of
 your press) were. Are the new folks who come to follow celebs or just chat
 with their friends using it? No, probably not. The fact of the matter is the
 UI for that setting sucked rocks. First you have the fundamental confusion
 between followers (a noun) and following (a verb AND a noun). Put the
 two together and you can figure it out, have following by itself, and you
 have no idea. That you get used to, but it's confusing to new users. Add in
 that sometimes the site talks about friends--g*d knows what those are.
 Then you attempted to explain the settings in a menu item instead of using a
 simple English sentence, and finally you had the wrong default (don't see
 replies sent to people I don't follow) for new users. Every time I told
 someone about that setting, they were like Oh! *That's* why I never saw
 anyone talking! I *knew* what the settings did and I still found the text
 confusing. Whenever I told someone about it, I had to reread the site to
 make sure I got it 

[twitter-dev] Can't reach twitter.com from Amazon Cloud instance after twitter maintenance

2009-05-13 Thread RC

I have a couple of Amazon Cloud instances that haven't been able to
contact twitter.com after Twitter came back up this afternoon from the
database maintenance.  I can reach it fine through other machines not
on the Amazon cloud.  Anyone else having this trouble?

Just a simple telnet www.twitter.com 80  goes unresponded to.  A
browser trying to get to twitter.com also fails on two differen Amazon
instances.

Any ideas on what might be happening or have I just jumped the gun
before Twitter is all the way back up?

Randy


[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-05-13 Thread Abraham Williams
The main API does support HTTPS.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 16:50, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:


 I'll attempt to answer these questions, but I can only do so with some
 speculation and humble ignorance.

 1) OAuth allows clients to authenticate with the Twitter REST API via
 third-party services. These services should not also need to interact
 with the Streaming API on a per client basis. Instead, the service
 should establish a single query that satisfies all clients' needs.
 This may not be practical in all cases, but I suspect we can
 approximate the desired behavior with the current set of primitives.

 2) There are no immediate plans to support HTTPS, mainly because we're
 not really trying to keep the data private. Also, and I am probably
 totally wrong here, I don't think we use HTTPS on the main WWW site or
 on the REST API, so this doesn't make things much worse than they
 already are. A possible workaround would be for sensitive service to
 create an account just for streaming. Should the password be
 compromised, there's only a denial of service risk and no further
 risk.

 -John


 On May 13, 11:18 am, Marco Kaiser kaiser.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
  John,
 
  this looks pretty interesting!
 
  Two questions:
 
  1) you are requiring to send a username and password for Basic Auth - how
  does that map to apps / services using OAuth, as they won't have access
 to a
  user's passwords? (and related, how does this fit into your general
 roadmap
  to move everything to OAuth?)
 
  2) the docs only mention http as a protocol, not https. In combination
 with
  requiring passwords, only making http available seems quite unsecure. Any
  plans to also support https soon (or any other mechanism which gives
 better
  security?)
 
  Thanks,
  Marco
 
  2009/5/13 John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com
 
 
 
   Chad,
 
   Yes, I think this is called POSTDATA in browsers. I don't recall what
   the actual name of this part of the HTTP protocol is, but it's the
   body section after the headers.
 
   I corrected the file name error. Thanks.
 
   -John
 
   On May 12, 8:49 pm, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi John,
 
/follow looks very interesting.  Since you're asking for feedback
 
I'm copying the follow parameter example documentation:
 
Example: Create a file called 'follow' that contains, exactly and
excluding the quotation marks: follow=12 13 15 16 20 87. Execute:
curl -d @followinghttp://stream.twitter.com/follow.json
-uAnyTwitterUser:Password.You will receive JSON updates from Jack
 Biz,
Crystal, Ev, Krissy, but not from Jeremy, as he's a private user.
 
I'm assuming that follow is just a POSTDATA variable in the normal
case (you're just using curl's file posting ability in the example)?
 
In the example, should the file be called following instead of
follow (since you are using -d @following in the curl line)?
 
Thanks,
-Chad
 
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com
   wrote:
 
 Note: The Streaming API is currently under a limited alpha test,
 details below.
 
 The /follow Streaming API resource is now publicly available.
 This
 resource streams near-real-time public updates posted by an
 arbitrary
 set of users. Streaming by user_id may be interesting to a variety
 of
 developers who wish to provide a nearly instantaneous experience
 without the drawbacks of continuous polling, polling rate limits,
 auto-
 following and follow limits.
 
 For example, a desktop client could simulate a user's /home
 timeline,
 minus private updates and mentions, via the /follow resource.
 Continuous polling would no longer be necessary or desired. Upon
 receipt of a new streamed message, the REST API may be periodically
 polled to back-fill mentions, private statuses and other updates
 not
 available via the Streaming API.
 
 This stream may also be interesting to service developers that
 follow
 their subscribers solely to receive their replies or for data
 mining
 purposes. Auto-following, following limit and rate limit hassles
 could
 be exchanged for real-time streaming subscriber updates.
 
 Currently this resource is limited to following 200 user_ids.
 Developers requiring considerably more followings and/or
 back-filling
 via the count parameter should consider applying for the
 restricted
 /shadow resource.
 
 Feedback is encouraged as we determine the ease-of-use, value,
 tuning
 and operational viability of this resource. With any luck,
 streaming
 might also be easier on the Twitter service. Our flock of orange
 whale-
 hoisting birds are pretty tuckered out.
 
 Important Alpha Test Note:
 The Streaming API (aka Hosebird) is currently under an alpha test.
 All
 developers using the Streaming API must tolerate possible
 unannounced
 and extended periods of unavailability, especially during
 

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-05-13 Thread Chad Etzel

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:50 PM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote:
 2) There are no immediate plans to support HTTPS, mainly because we're
 not really trying to keep the data private. Also, and I am probably
 totally wrong here, I don't think we use HTTPS on the main WWW site or
 on the REST API, so this doesn't make things much worse than they
 already are. A possible workaround would be for sensitive service to
 create an account just for streaming. Should the password be
 compromised, there's only a denial of service risk and no further
 risk.

Yes, there is HTTPS available on both the main site and the REST API,
and several clients/apps have been heavily chided when it was
discovered they were not using it to authenticate users.  I don't
think the concern is keeping the data private, but keeping the
credentials private. But, as you said, another account could be used
instead...

However, since this is an open stream, it may be problematic to use
HTTPS since the normal encryption case would encrypt/sign the entire
response headers + body... which it can't really do in this case.
That certainly is an interesting problem for long-poll solutions like
this.

-Chad


[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-05-13 Thread John Kalucki

I'll attempt to answer these questions, but I can only do so with some
speculation and humble ignorance.

1) OAuth allows clients to authenticate with the Twitter REST API via
third-party services. These services should not also need to interact
with the Streaming API on a per client basis. Instead, the service
should establish a single query that satisfies all clients' needs.
This may not be practical in all cases, but I suspect we can
approximate the desired behavior with the current set of primitives.

2) There are no immediate plans to support HTTPS, mainly because we're
not really trying to keep the data private. Also, and I am probably
totally wrong here, I don't think we use HTTPS on the main WWW site or
on the REST API, so this doesn't make things much worse than they
already are. A possible workaround would be for sensitive service to
create an account just for streaming. Should the password be
compromised, there's only a denial of service risk and no further
risk.

-John


On May 13, 11:18 am, Marco Kaiser kaiser.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 John,

 this looks pretty interesting!

 Two questions:

 1) you are requiring to send a username and password for Basic Auth - how
 does that map to apps / services using OAuth, as they won't have access to a
 user's passwords? (and related, how does this fit into your general roadmap
 to move everything to OAuth?)

 2) the docs only mention http as a protocol, not https. In combination with
 requiring passwords, only making http available seems quite unsecure. Any
 plans to also support https soon (or any other mechanism which gives better
 security?)

 Thanks,
 Marco

 2009/5/13 John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com



  Chad,

  Yes, I think this is called POSTDATA in browsers. I don't recall what
  the actual name of this part of the HTTP protocol is, but it's the
  body section after the headers.

  I corrected the file name error. Thanks.

  -John

  On May 12, 8:49 pm, Chad Etzel jazzyc...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi John,

   /follow looks very interesting.  Since you're asking for feedback

   I'm copying the follow parameter example documentation:

   Example: Create a file called 'follow' that contains, exactly and
   excluding the quotation marks: follow=12 13 15 16 20 87. Execute:
   curl -d @followinghttp://stream.twitter.com/follow.json
   -uAnyTwitterUser:Password.You will receive JSON updates from Jack Biz,
   Crystal, Ev, Krissy, but not from Jeremy, as he's a private user.

   I'm assuming that follow is just a POSTDATA variable in the normal
   case (you're just using curl's file posting ability in the example)?

   In the example, should the file be called following instead of
   follow (since you are using -d @following in the curl line)?

   Thanks,
   -Chad

   On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:24 PM, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Note: The Streaming API is currently under a limited alpha test,
details below.

The /follow Streaming API resource is now publicly available. This
resource streams near-real-time public updates posted by an arbitrary
set of users. Streaming by user_id may be interesting to a variety of
developers who wish to provide a nearly instantaneous experience
without the drawbacks of continuous polling, polling rate limits, auto-
following and follow limits.

For example, a desktop client could simulate a user's /home timeline,
minus private updates and mentions, via the /follow resource.
Continuous polling would no longer be necessary or desired. Upon
receipt of a new streamed message, the REST API may be periodically
polled to back-fill mentions, private statuses and other updates not
available via the Streaming API.

This stream may also be interesting to service developers that follow
their subscribers solely to receive their replies or for data mining
purposes. Auto-following, following limit and rate limit hassles could
be exchanged for real-time streaming subscriber updates.

Currently this resource is limited to following 200 user_ids.
Developers requiring considerably more followings and/or back-filling
via the count parameter should consider applying for the restricted
/shadow resource.

Feedback is encouraged as we determine the ease-of-use, value, tuning
and operational viability of this resource. With any luck, streaming
might also be easier on the Twitter service. Our flock of orange whale-
hoisting birds are pretty tuckered out.

Important Alpha Test Note:
The Streaming API (aka Hosebird) is currently under an alpha test. All
developers using the Streaming API must tolerate possible unannounced
and extended periods of unavailability, especially during off-hours,
Pacific Time. New features, resources and policies are being deployed
on very little, if any, notice. Any developer may experiment with the
unrestricted resources and provide feedback via this list. Access to

[twitter-dev] Re: twitter on mobile

2009-05-13 Thread Abraham Williams
This might help you get started: http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Getting-Started

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 13:08, Omkaaraa badshaah.k...@gmail.com wrote:


 One more silly question.. I still wonder how to find
 friends_timeline (xml/json).

 http://twitter.com/statuses/friends_timeline.xml

 I mean, http://twitter.com/statuses/ after this URL.. how I will know
 that which name (with .xml or .json) I am suppose to write?? from
 where I will get those lists where names like friends_timeline is
 mentioned??

 I am new so please help me.



 On May 13, 6:59 pm, Omkaaraa badshaah.k...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I had come here few days back also. now again after preparing my
  design. I want to write twitter application which will contain my own
  feature also, for MOBILE. for the time being, just forget which mobile
  I am going to use. Instead of J2ME, I will use similar framework.
  From here only I had got info about list of API's to develop twitter
  application. But I need API's for J2ME in fact. I have not gone in
  depth of these technical terms till now as far as mobile and twitter
  api's are concern because I was working with GUI and data flow of my
  own concept (which dont need any space on web server now because i
  have changed it a bit).
 
  So, would you please help me from where I will get those API's which
  will run on J2ME platform?
 
  please guide me properly considering I have basic idea of J2ME and
  developing twitter application as well.
 
  Thanks and Regards,
 
  Omi
  learner.




-- 
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Hacker | http://abrah.am | http://twitter.com/abraham
Web608 | Community Evangelist | http://web608.org
This email is: [ ] blogable [x] ask first [ ] private.


[twitter-dev] replies blog post clarification...

2009-05-13 Thread Steve Brunton

from @biz and his post :

First, we're making a change such that any updates beginning with
@username (that are not explicitly created by clicking on the reply
icon) will be seen by everyone following that account.

for us folks that fiddle with the API. Can we read this as Tweets that
start with @username, but don't have the in_reply_to_status_id
parameter set?

-steve


[twitter-dev] Re: Can't reach twitter.com from Amazon Cloud instance after twitter maintenance

2009-05-13 Thread RC

Evidently Jumped the gun is the answer.  It was about 20 minutes
after other machines were able to get to Twitter that the Amazon
instances were getting a response from Twitter.

On May 13, 2:30 pm, RC bioscienceupda...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a couple of Amazon Cloud instances that haven't been able to
 contact twitter.com after Twitter came back up this afternoon from the
 database maintenance.  I can reach it fine through other machines not
 on the Amazon cloud.  Anyone else having this trouble?

 Just a simple telnetwww.twitter.com80  goes unresponded to.  A
 browser trying to get to twitter.com also fails on two differen Amazon
 instances.

 Any ideas on what might be happening or have I just jumped the gun
 before Twitter is all the way back up?

 Randy


[twitter-dev] Re: Bad Celebrity Search Results

2009-05-13 Thread Hayes Davis
I'm also curious about this phenomenon. It does seem that certain
high-profile users are indexed poorly in search. It doesn't seem to
correlate exactly with follower numbers but I've not done much in the way of
empirical analysis on that.

It's causing me some trouble on tweetreach.com as I often get requests to
run reach reports about things tweeted by high profile users only to find
that tweets from those users aren't returned by search.

Should I file an issue for this?

Hayes



On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM, rob robsew...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm doing a project that deals specifically with P Diddy (twitter.com/
 iamdiddy). When I do a search, no tweets newer than May 6th show up.
 However, looking at his timeline, more recent tweets exist. This isn't
 a problem with my tweets (twitter.com/robseward). Also, it appears
 search is not returning accurate results for other celebrities online.
 Does anyone know what's going on here? Is the problem isolated to
 users with a high number of followers or is it something non celebrity-
 related. Some examples below:


 P Diddy:
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aiamdiddy
 http://twitter.com/iamdiddy

 Ashton Kutcher:
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aaplusk
 http://twitter.com/aplusk

 Shaq:
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from=THE_REAL_SHAQ
 twitter.com/THE_REAL_SHAQ


 Me (not a celebrity. Accurate search results).
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=+from%3Arobseward
 twitter.com/robseward



 Rob



[twitter-dev] Re: Status ID closing in on maximum unsigned integer

2009-05-13 Thread Craig Hockenberry

Let me be the first to say THANK YOU for this advance notice. I found
and fixed some bugs in our iPhone client today because of it — and I'm
very happy to hear that we have some time to get the code approved in
the App Store.

We love to complain when the process goes awry, but it's also
important to remember to give credit when it's well and truly due.
Thanks again!

-ch

On May 13, 12:12 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote:
 Quick update …

      While looking at the code that reminded me of this error I see it  
 had some bugs of its own. We seem to have a matter of weeks rather  
 than days before this change. Mobile developers and other who deride  
 our lack of early notice take heed … now is the time to go unsigned.

 Thanks;
   – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford
       Twitter Dev

 On May 13, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:





  I see that the product manager/APIs position is still on your  
  site... does
  that mean the position is still open?  Does teasing the API team  
  help as a
  qualification?

  It may get you an interview, but only so they can surreptitiously  
  get a
  photo and send it to the nice Italian men with the kneecappers.

  --
   personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/
   --
   Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com
  -- They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them.  
  ---


[twitter-dev] Re: replies blog post clarification...

2009-05-13 Thread Doug Williams
Non-confirmed @replies will still be seen by all. Confirmed @replies, or
those with in_reply_to_status_id set, will only be seen by mutual followers.

Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Steve Brunton sbrun...@gmail.com wrote:


 from @biz and his post :

 First, we're making a change such that any updates beginning with
 @username (that are not explicitly created by clicking on the reply
 icon) will be seen by everyone following that account.

 for us folks that fiddle with the API. Can we read this as Tweets that
 start with @username, but don't have the in_reply_to_status_id
 parameter set?

 -steve



[twitter-dev] twitter digest not available

2009-05-13 Thread AJ

Hi, thanks to twitter's api and the api team, the data feed for data
mining is just wonderful. I have put together a real time system that
takes in the feed and does some NLP analysis on tweets using open
tools like Open Calais and openNLP.  The results are freely available
on http://web2express.org/.  Using this twiiter web app, you can
spot   daily hot topics and for each hot topic, quickly find the top
contributing twitter users. I hope this real time information will
help users to understand the popular topics at any given moment and
easily identify who to follow.

Please let me know if you have any comment.

-aj
AJ Chen, PhD
Co-Chair, Semantic Web SIG, sdforum.org
http://web2express.org
Palo Alto, CA


[twitter-dev] Re: Bad Celebrity Search Results

2009-05-13 Thread Brendan O'Connor
i just found out some high-volume users aren't indexed at all.  for example:

http://search.twitter.com/search?q=+from%3Athe_real_shaq

and it's not just the from: operators that's broken.  if I search for some
text from one of his most recent tweets, nothing from him shows up.

for this tweet: http://twitter.com/THE_REAL_SHAQ/status/1785949479
this search doesn't get it:
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=Listen+in+tonite+7p+to+9p+Shaq

-Brendan


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Hayes Davis ha...@appozite.com wrote:

 I'm also curious about this phenomenon. It does seem that certain
 high-profile users are indexed poorly in search. It doesn't seem to
 correlate exactly with follower numbers but I've not done much in the way of
 empirical analysis on that.

 It's causing me some trouble on tweetreach.com as I often get requests to
 run reach reports about things tweeted by high profile users only to find
 that tweets from those users aren't returned by search.

 Should I file an issue for this?

 Hayes




 On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM, rob robsew...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi,

 I'm doing a project that deals specifically with P Diddy (twitter.com/
 iamdiddy). When I do a search, no tweets newer than May 6th show up.
 However, looking at his timeline, more recent tweets exist. This isn't
 a problem with my tweets (twitter.com/robseward). Also, it appears
 search is not returning accurate results for other celebrities online.
 Does anyone know what's going on here? Is the problem isolated to
 users with a high number of followers or is it something non celebrity-
 related. Some examples below:


 P Diddy:
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aiamdiddy
 http://twitter.com/iamdiddy

 Ashton Kutcher:
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aaplusk
 http://twitter.com/aplusk

 Shaq:
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=from=THE_REAL_SHAQ
 twitter.com/THE_REAL_SHAQ


 Me (not a celebrity. Accurate search results).
 http://search.twitter.com/search?q=+from%3Arobseward
 twitter.com/robseward



 Rob





[twitter-dev] Re: Bad Celebrity Search Results

2009-05-13 Thread explicious

Hi Brendan,

found out how? references? or merely observed per the link? It's
curious because it might be throwing off my calculated 'coolness
vector' - I noticed the coolness vector of a tweet containing a celebs
name seemed lower than anticipiated - however it wasn't the point of
the experiment, mind you - I just found the downplay sorta odd and mad-
ening. :-)

Thanks
Waitman


On May 13, 6:44 pm, Brendan O'Connor breno...@gmail.com wrote:
 i just found out some high-volume users aren't indexed at all.  for example:


[twitter-dev] Re: Bad Celebrity Search Results

2009-05-13 Thread Brendan O'Connor
i wanted to get all of shaq's tweets with the search api and i couldn't :)

going through random ones on twitterholic ..
from:aplusk barely works
from:scobleizer works
from:adventuregirl works
from:timoreilly works

haven't tried the standard API for these.

bleah
Brendan

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:57 PM, explicious avail4...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi Brendan,

 found out how? references? or merely observed per the link? It's
 curious because it might be throwing off my calculated 'coolness
 vector' - I noticed the coolness vector of a tweet containing a celebs
 name seemed lower than anticipiated - however it wasn't the point of
 the experiment, mind you - I just found the downplay sorta odd and mad-
 ening. :-)

 Thanks
 Waitman


 On May 13, 6:44 pm, Brendan O'Connor breno...@gmail.com wrote:
  i just found out some high-volume users aren't indexed at all.  for
 example:



[twitter-dev] Re: replies blog post clarification...

2009-05-13 Thread Zac Bowling

Riddle me this, what happens in this scenario:

I'm following user A and user B
1. User A sends an @reply to user B.
2. User B changes his name.
3. Tweet is going to user B's old name.

Will I see the tweet?



Zac Bowling




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Non-confirmed @replies will still be seen by all. Confirmed @replies, or
 those with in_reply_to_status_id set, will only be seen by mutual followers.

 Thanks,
 Doug
 --

 Doug Williams
 Twitter Platform Support
 http://twitter.com/dougw




 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Steve Brunton sbrun...@gmail.com wrote:

 from @biz and his post :

 First, we're making a change such that any updates beginning with
 @username (that are not explicitly created by clicking on the reply
 icon) will be seen by everyone following that account.

 for us folks that fiddle with the API. Can we read this as Tweets that
 start with @username, but don't have the in_reply_to_status_id
 parameter set?

 -steve




[twitter-dev] oauth just to post status

2009-05-13 Thread tayknight

Hi all. My app, once it gets going, is mainly going to post status
updates as mentions to followers. For instance, the app, called
DummyOauthApp will post a statuses/update like '@tayknight blah blah
blah'.

So, i don't need my app to authenticate itself  to oauth as tayknight,
but as itself DummyOauthApp. Does this mean I need to generate an
access token/secret pair for the app itself and continually reuse this
pair to call statuses/update?

Thanks.


[twitter-dev] Re: replies blog post clarification...

2009-05-13 Thread Doug Williams
This change is not owned by the API team. If you test this, please report
back.

Thanks,
Doug
--

Doug Williams
Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw




On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Zac Bowling zbowl...@gmail.com wrote:


 Riddle me this, what happens in this scenario:

 I'm following user A and user B
 1. User A sends an @reply to user B.
 2. User B changes his name.
 3. Tweet is going to user B's old name.

 Will I see the tweet?



 Zac Bowling




 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
  Non-confirmed @replies will still be seen by all. Confirmed @replies, or
  those with in_reply_to_status_id set, will only be seen by mutual
 followers.
 
  Thanks,
  Doug
  --
 
  Doug Williams
  Twitter Platform Support
  http://twitter.com/dougw
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Steve Brunton sbrun...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  from @biz and his post :
 
  First, we're making a change such that any updates beginning with
  @username (that are not explicitly created by clicking on the reply
  icon) will be seen by everyone following that account.
 
  for us folks that fiddle with the API. Can we read this as Tweets that
  start with @username, but don't have the in_reply_to_status_id
  parameter set?
 
  -steve
 
 



[twitter-dev] Re: oauth just to post status

2009-05-13 Thread Abraham Williams
Updates have to come from a twitter account. Your app can not post updates
by itself. You will either have to use the OAuth flow for what ever account
you use or you could use basic auth.

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 21:50, tayknight taykni...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi all. My app, once it gets going, is mainly going to post status
 updates as mentions to followers. For instance, the app, called
 DummyOauthApp will post a statuses/update like '@tayknight blah blah
 blah'.

 So, i don't need my app to authenticate itself  to oauth as tayknight,
 but as itself DummyOauthApp. Does this mean I need to generate an
 access token/secret pair for the app itself and continually reuse this
 pair to call statuses/update?

 Thanks.




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[twitter-dev] Timelines/search frozen?

2009-05-13 Thread Michael Ivey
I haven't gotten any tweets in over an hour, and search is frozen, too.
Individual profile pages show new tweets, and public timeline seems to have
them, too.
Am I the only one seeing this?

 -- ivey


[twitter-dev] Re: Timelines/search frozen?

2009-05-13 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 I haven't gotten any tweets in over an hour, and search is frozen, too.
 Individual profile pages show new tweets, and public timeline seems to have
 them, too.
 Am I the only one seeing this?

No, I'm noticing it's stuck also. DMs are coming through however.

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[twitter-dev] It looks like timelines and search are stuck

2009-05-13 Thread Hayes Davis
Guys,

I don't see any notice on the status blog or other official channels so I
figured I might as well say something. None of my account timelines have
updated in more than 45 minutes and all search queries I'm looking at are
that old as well.

Hayes


[twitter-dev] Re: API FAQ can be reached in office but cann't at home

2009-05-13 Thread Coonay

 is apiwiki.twitter.com  just a workplace for twitter.com api hosted
by pbworks?
 so it's the problem with pbwork.com,not with twitter.com?


On May 13, 6:50 pm, Coonay fla...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQcan be reached in office,where IE PROXY
 is needed .but it cann't be reached at home(direct internet
 coonnection),where i cann't use the proxy.Is there any access
 restriction to access the API site .

 PS: thehttp://twitter.com/can be reached both office and home


[twitter-dev] Re: API FAQ can be reached in office but cann't at home

2009-05-13 Thread Coonay

use https://proxytea.appspot.com/ to access it if you have the problem
also

On May 13, 6:50 pm, Coonay fla...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://apiwiki.twitter.com/FAQcan be reached in office,where IE PROXY
 is needed .but it cann't be reached at home(direct internet
 coonnection),where i cann't use the proxy.Is there any access
 restriction to access the API site .

 PS: thehttp://twitter.com/can be reached both office and home


[twitter-dev] Re: oauth just to post status

2009-05-13 Thread tayknight

I meant to add, I want to use oauth for this so I get the 'via
DummyOauthApp' line in the tweet.

On May 13, 9:50 pm, tayknight taykni...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all. My app, once it gets going, is mainly going to post status
 updates as mentions to followers. For instance, the app, called
 DummyOauthApp will post a statuses/update like '@tayknight blah blah
 blah'.

 So, i don't need my app to authenticate itself  to oauth as tayknight,
 but as itself DummyOauthApp. Does this mean I need to generate an
 access token/secret pair for the app itself and continually reuse this
 pair to call statuses/update?

 Thanks.


[twitter-dev] Re: It looks like timelines and search are stuck

2009-05-13 Thread Doug Williams
Ops guys are on it, fixing a problem with back end machines. Thanks for the
report.

Thanks,
Doug
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Twitter Platform Support
http://twitter.com/dougw



On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Hayes Davis ha...@appozite.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I don't see any notice on the status blog or other official channels so I
 figured I might as well say something. None of my account timelines have
 updated in more than 45 minutes and all search queries I'm looking at are
 that old as well.

 Hayes




[twitter-dev] Re: It looks like timelines and search are stuck

2009-05-13 Thread elversatile

Confirming the same issue. I've been observing this for the last 24
hours or so.

On May 13, 9:18 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:
 Ops guys are on it, fixing a problem with back end machines. Thanks for the
 report.

 Thanks,
 Doug
 --

 Doug Williams
 Twitter Platform Supporthttp://twitter.com/dougw

 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Hayes Davis ha...@appozite.com wrote:
  Guys,

  I don't see any notice on the status blog or other official channels so I
  figured I might as well say something. None of my account timelines have
  updated in more than 45 minutes and all search queries I'm looking at are
  that old as well.

  Hayes


[twitter-dev] Re: Timelines/search frozen?

2009-05-13 Thread Doug Williams
Repairs are finished. Things should be on their way back to normal once the
queues empty.

Thanks,
Doug

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Sent from my mobile device.


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote:

 Looks like there are some problems on the back end right now. Ops guys are
 on it.

 Thanks,
 Doug
 --

 Doug Williams
 Twitter Platform Support
 http://twitter.com/dougw





 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.comwrote:


  I haven't gotten any tweets in over an hour, and search is frozen, too.
  Individual profile pages show new tweets, and public timeline seems to
 have
  them, too.
  Am I the only one seeing this?

 No, I'm noticing it's stuck also. DMs are coming through however.

 --
  personal:
 http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com *
 ckai...@floodgap.com
 -- There are few problems that the liberal usage of high explosives can't
 cure.