[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-10 Thread TJ Luoma

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Emrah e...@ekanet.net wrote:
 That's the main point of my suggestion! It helps avoiding the need of
 making calculation to know at what time a Tweet has been posted
 according to the poster's timezone. It doesn't make sense to see that
 Jeff said Good morning at 12:30 even though it was 06:30 for him... Of
 course for a personal timeline I will need to have the 13:30
 information, but I would appreciate to have a mention of Jeff's timezone
 somewhere. For now, I must calculate each post's timestamp, whether it
 comes from India, Switzerland, New-York or Australia...

 If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another
 thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local
 timezone for end users.

 I am not going to repeat myself...

 I still believe this feature would emphasize the international impact of
 Twitter and improve the user experience.

 What do you think?

I think it's solving a problem that doesn't exist. It doesn't bother
me to see my friends in Australia talking about going to bed when it's
morning for me.  And how are you going to decide whether or not it's a
pertinent message? If my mom posts Not feeling well, going to bed
at 9pm, are you going to show that message if I'm in another timezone?
 Or if a friend posts Great night, just getting to bed at 4am their
time?  Good morning! I slept 18 hours!

Seriously, I don't see a) why this is a problem or b) even if you
accept that it is a problem, how you'd implement a solution.

Now if you could find a way to filter out political message or
pro-Yankees posts, THAT would solve a real world problem :-)

TjL


[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-09 Thread Zaudio

I actually totally prefer time's to all be UNC / GMT as they are
now...

it's the same erevywhere, and very easily converted to local timezones
for display - which is what I imagine most end users want to see...
they don't want to be working out timezones from around the world in
their heads!
If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another
thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local
timezone for end users.

Please leave as it is.

Just my thoughts

Simon

On Nov 8, 11:33 pm, Emrah e...@ekanet.net wrote:
 Raffi Krikorian wrote:

  hi emrah.

  this sounds interesting -- how do you handle people who are traveling
  and may not be in their home timezone when they say good morning?

 :) Timezone code could be set per Tweet as a parameter. E.g.: on mobile
 phones, the time is usually updated from the network operator and on
 most computers from an NNTP.
 Obviously the user experience should not be changed and the timezone
 must be discovered and set automatically.

 Regards,
 Emrah


[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-09 Thread Emrah

Zaudio wrote:
 I actually totally prefer time's to all be UNC / GMT as they are
 now...

   
And that won't change obviously. Messages would be marked with both
times (poster's and reader's)

 it's the same erevywhere, and very easily converted to local timezones
 for display - which is what I imagine most end users want to see...
   

Again, that won't change of course. But it may be preferable to have
both timestamps displayed.

 they don't want to be working out timezones from around the world in
 their heads!
   

That's the main point of my suggestion! It helps avoiding the need of
making calculation to know at what time a Tweet has been posted
according to the poster's timezone. It doesn't make sense to see that
Jeff said Good morning at 12:30 even though it was 06:30 for him... Of
course for a personal timeline I will need to have the 13:30
information, but I would appreciate to have a mention of Jeff's timezone
somewhere. For now, I must calculate each post's timestamp, whether it
comes from India, Switzerland, New-York or Australia...

 If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another
 thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local
 timezone for end users.

 I am not going to repeat myself...
   

I still believe this feature would emphasize the international impact of
Twitter and improve the user experience.

What do you think?

Cheers,
Emrah


[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-09 Thread Emrah

My mistake, I wrote 12:30 and 13:30, and it is not coherent. I ment
12:30 in both cases.
Btw, sorry for my English.

Regards,
Emrah
Emrah wrote:
 Zaudio wrote:
   
 I actually totally prefer time's to all be UNC / GMT as they are
 now...

   
 
 And that won't change obviously. Messages would be marked with both
 times (poster's and reader's)

   
 it's the same erevywhere, and very easily converted to local timezones
 for display - which is what I imagine most end users want to see...
   
 

 Again, that won't change of course. But it may be preferable to have
 both timestamps displayed.

   
 they don't want to be working out timezones from around the world in
 their heads!
   
 

 That's the main point of my suggestion! It helps avoiding the need of
 making calculation to know at what time a Tweet has been posted
 according to the poster's timezone. It doesn't make sense to see that
 Jeff said Good morning at 12:30 even though it was 06:30 for him... Of
 course for a personal timeline I will need to have the 13:30
 information, but I would appreciate to have a mention of Jeff's timezone
 somewhere. For now, I must calculate each post's timestamp, whether it
 comes from India, Switzerland, New-York or Australia...

   
 If tweets all start having variable timezones, it is just another
 thing that has to be calculated around to get times into the local
 timezone for end users.

 I am not going to repeat myself...
   
 

 I still believe this feature would emphasize the international impact of
 Twitter and improve the user experience.

 What do you think?

 Cheers,
 Emrah

   



[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-08 Thread Raffi Krikorian


hi emrah.

this sounds interesting -- how do you handle people who are traveling  
and may not be in their home timezone when they say good morning?




Hi,

Any plans to implement timezone support?
It's weird to say Good morning at 5h45 from Switzerland and see it
appear as 19h45 in the public timeline / on some profiles... It  
doesn't

make sense to me... The time should be written with the mention of the
time zone, e.g.: 05:45 CEST.
An other suggestion could be to display the time in both formats:  
e.g.:

05:45 CEST / 10:15 IST | poster's timezone / reader's timezone.
Choice should be given to the user whether to display the message
timestamps with timezone support or no.

Regards,
Emrah



--
Raffi Krikorian
Twitter Platform Team
ra...@twitter.com | @raffi






[twitter-dev] Re: Time zone support

2009-11-08 Thread Emrah

Raffi Krikorian wrote:

 hi emrah.

 this sounds interesting -- how do you handle people who are traveling
 and may not be in their home timezone when they say good morning?


:) Timezone code could be set per Tweet as a parameter. E.g.: on mobile
phones, the time is usually updated from the network operator and on
most computers from an NNTP.
Obviously the user experience should not be changed and the timezone
must be discovered and set automatically.

Regards,
Emrah