Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 I have received an error from my client on test,
 the error is,
 _Revocation information for the security certificate for this site 
 is not available, do you want to proceed?_

 I am using the demo/test certificates delicered with ICS component 
 package because I am still doing a test period.

Don't use demo certificates, generate your own test SSL certificates for
the servers and maybe the clients.  When you go live, you'll need to buy
commercial SSL/TLS certificates, which may be expensive. 

And read the SSL/TLS book as suggested several weeks ago. 

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread daniel cc

Angus,
I remember all you said.
As mentioned,
I am still running tests.
What I need is a some kind of explanation about the error since I am not 
using IE or Mozilla.

Do you know the reason for the error?




-Original Message- 
From: Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:07 AM
To: twsocket@elists.org
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient


I have received an error from my client on test,
the error is,
_Revocation information for the security certificate for this site
is not available, do you want to proceed?_



I am using the demo/test certificates delicered with ICS component
package because I am still doing a test period.


Don't use demo certificates, generate your own test SSL certificates for
the servers and maybe the clients.  When you go live, you'll need to buy
commercial SSL/TLS certificates, which may be expensive.

And read the SSL/TLS book as suggested several weeks ago.

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread Fastream Technologies
SSL certificates expire after a period of time--usually 1 year.

Regards,

SZ
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:49 AM, daniel cc dan...@signedsource.com wrote:

 Angus,
 I remember all you said.
 As mentioned,
 I am still running tests.
 What I need is a some kind of explanation about the error since I am not
 using IE or Mozilla.
 Do you know the reason for the error?




 -Original Message- From: Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:07 AM
 To: twsocket@elists.org
 Subject: Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient


 I have received an error from my client on test,
 the error is,
 _Revocation information for the security certificate for this site
 is not available, do you want to proceed?_


 I am using the demo/test certificates delicered with ICS component
 package because I am still doing a test period.


 Don't use demo certificates, generate your own test SSL certificates for
 the servers and maybe the clients.  When you go live, you'll need to buy
 commercial SSL/TLS certificates, which may be expensive.

 And read the SSL/TLS book as suggested several weeks ago.

 Angus

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread Arno Garrels
daniel cc wrote:
 Hello,
 I have received an error from my client on test,
 the error is,
 “Revocation information for the security certificate for this site is
 not available, do you want to proceed?” 

This is not an error from your application, isn't it?
A certificate usually contains a link to a certificate revocation list CRL.
When Windows or Firefox verify a certificate they try to lookup
the presented certificate in that list. Applications may show that warning
if there's no link to a CRL included etc..

 
 Please notice,
 I am using the demo/test certificates delicered with ICS component
 package because I am still doing a test period. I just would like to
 know if someone else has the problem and what is the solution? 

With OpenSSL it's easy to generate a CRL and to include its weblink 
in self created certificates. If you will use commercial SSL server 
certificates 
you do not have to worry about CRLs.

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread daniel cc

Guys,
The certificate is not expired because I have checked it.


-Original Message- 
From: Fastream Technologies 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:49 AM 
To: ICS support mailing 
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient 


SSL certificates expire after a period of time--usually 1 year.

Regards,

SZ
On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:49 AM, daniel cc dan...@signedsource.com wrote:


Angus,
I remember all you said.
As mentioned,
I am still running tests.
What I need is a some kind of explanation about the error since I am not
using IE or Mozilla.
Do you know the reason for the error?




-Original Message- From: Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:07 AM
To: twsocket@elists.org
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient


I have received an error from my client on test,

the error is,
_Revocation information for the security certificate for this site
is not available, do you want to proceed?_



I am using the demo/test certificates delicered with ICS component

package because I am still doing a test period.



Don't use demo certificates, generate your own test SSL certificates for
the servers and maybe the clients.  When you go live, you'll need to buy
commercial SSL/TLS certificates, which may be expensive.

And read the SSL/TLS book as suggested several weeks ago.

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread daniel cc

Hi Arno,
Thanks for the response.
I am running the test with plain -- OverbyteIcsSimpleSslServer project demo 
which I have modified a bit (such as keepalive, error handling etc.).
I do use firefox in the client machine but that is not part of my 
application it is just the firefox for web use (downloading drivers etc.).


-Original Message- 
From: Arno Garrels

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:57 AM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

daniel cc wrote:

Hello,
I have received an error from my client on test,
the error is,
“Revocation information for the security certificate for this site is
not available, do you want to proceed?”


This is not an error from your application, isn't it?
A certificate usually contains a link to a certificate revocation list 
CRL.

When Windows or Firefox verify a certificate they try to lookup
the presented certificate in that list. Applications may show that warning
if there's no link to a CRL included etc..



Please notice,
I am using the demo/test certificates delicered with ICS component
package because I am still doing a test period. I just would like to
know if someone else has the problem and what is the solution?


With OpenSSL it's easy to generate a CRL and to include its weblink
in self created certificates. If you will use commercial SSL server 
certificates

you do not have to worry about CRLs.

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 What I need is a some kind of explanation about the error since I 
 am not using IE or Mozilla.
 Do you know the reason for the error?

Read Appendix B in the SSL and TLS Essentials book and pages 70 to 73 in
the Network Security with OpenSSL book.  

This mailing list is not for basic teaching, it is for support of the
TWSocket components. 

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread daniel cc

Angus,
I wouldn't type here and bother anyone if I could have found the answer from 
the book.
So far I couldn't find the answer from the book, chapters 70-73 tells many 
things but nothing about this particular error.
I have googled much and the answer everywhere seems to be managing the 
browser settings and I am wondering...

What this error got to do with the browser which isn't used.

one more thing,
Please don't answer to my questions, if you don't have the answer.
I have some brain which may not be as big as yours but I  do know how to use 
it for looking in the book or the internet.
There are always things which aren't in the books and I believe you also 
know that.




-Original Message- 
From: Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 11:41 AM
To: twsocket@elists.org
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient


What I need is a some kind of explanation about the error since I
am not using IE or Mozilla.
Do you know the reason for the error?


Read Appendix B in the SSL and TLS Essentials book and pages 70 to 73 in
the Network Security with OpenSSL book.

This mailing list is not for basic teaching, it is for support of the
TWSocket components.

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] Error with SSLWSocketClient

2011-02-03 Thread Angus Robertson - Magenta Systems Ltd
 Please don't answer to my questions

No problem, added to kill list. 

Also stop sending me private emails with other questions. 

Angus

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Re: [twsocket] FTPCli problem.

2011-02-03 Thread Antol
Hello Arno,


No,  it  was  reported  that the software with  FTPCLI_BUFFER_OLD also
hangs :(

Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:30:29 AM, you wrote:


AG const
AG //  BLOCK_SIZE   = 1460; { 1514 - TCP header size }

AG {$IFDEF FTPCLI_BUFFER_OLD}
AG   FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 1460;  { arno V7.18 }
AG   FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 4096;  { arno V7.18 }
AG {$ELSE}
AG   {$IFDEF FTPCLI_BUFFER_SMALL}
AG FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 8192;  { arno V7.18 }
AG FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 8192;  { arno V7.18 }
AG   {$ELSE}
AG {$IFDEF FTPCLI_BUFFER_MEDIUM}
AG   FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 16384;  { arno V7.18 }
AG   FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 16384;  { arno V7.18 }
AG {$ELSE}
AG   FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 32768;  { angus V7.00 increased from 1460 }
AG   FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 32768;  { angus V7.00 increased from 4096 }
AG {$ENDIF}
AG   {$ENDIF}
AG {$ENDIF}




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Re: [twsocket] FTPCli problem.

2011-02-03 Thread Arno Garrels
Antol wrote:
 Hello Arno,
 
 
 No,  it  was  reported  that the software with  FTPCLI_BUFFER_OLD also
 hangs :(

That's sad news :( 
I'm running out of ideas, anybody else?

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 Monday, January 24, 2011, 10:30:29 AM, you wrote:
 
 
 const
 //  BLOCK_SIZE   = 1460; { 1514 - TCP header size }
 
 {$IFDEF FTPCLI_BUFFER_OLD}
   FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 1460;  { arno V7.18 }
   FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 4096;  { arno V7.18 }
 {$ELSE}
   {$IFDEF FTPCLI_BUFFER_SMALL}
 FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 8192;  { arno V7.18 }
 FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 8192;  { arno V7.18 }
   {$ELSE}
 {$IFDEF FTPCLI_BUFFER_MEDIUM}
   FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 16384;  { arno V7.18 }
   FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 16384;  { arno V7.18 }
 {$ELSE}
   FTP_SND_BUF_SIZE = 32768;  { angus V7.00 increased from 1460 }
   FTP_RCV_BUF_SIZE = 32768;  { angus V7.00 increased from 4096 }
 {$ENDIF}
   {$ENDIF}
 {$ENDIF}
 
 
 
 
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Re: [twsocket] FTPCli problem.

2011-02-03 Thread Francois PIETTE

I'm running out of ideas, anybody else?


Is it confirmed that the server actually send the 226 answer and this is 
lost because the client doesn't see it ?


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Re: [twsocket] FTPCli problem.

2011-02-03 Thread Antol
Hello Francois,

By the moment the software was tested with 2 servers, and the behavior
is  the  same.  We could think that the router is the problem, but the
only unexplained thing remained is why ICS5 works...

Thursday, February 3, 2011, 9:19:16 PM, you wrote:

 I'm running out of ideas, anybody else?

FP Is it confirmed that the server actually send the 226 answer and this is
FP lost because the client doesn't see it ?

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Re: [twsocket] FTPCli problem.

2011-02-03 Thread Francois PIETTE

FP Is it confirmed that the server actually send the 226 answer and this is
FP lost because the client doesn't see it ?


By the moment the software was tested with 2 servers, and the behavior
is  the  same.  We could think that the router is the problem, but the
only unexplained thing remained is why ICS5 works...


I understood that, but nevertheless, I would like to confirm the server send 
the 226 answer when the download is done. It is possible that something is 
wrong at the closing of the data connection and so the server never send his 
226 status, or the server send it but ICS doesn't get it.


So before continuing with guessing, I would like to know the answer to my 
question, because this is the next thing I would check myself if I had that 
problem.


You said you reproduced the issue with your own server being interrogated, 
so it should be easy for you to spy on the network at your own server and 
see if the 226 answer is properly sent with his ending CR/LF.


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Re: [twsocket] Install ICS SSL Delphi 2007 Problem NO SSL

2011-02-03 Thread Marc Hale
I tried that. Still did not show the ssl installing but when I compiled the
sample project it died on every project that had the 

{$IFNDEF NOFORMS}
Bomb('Please add NOFORMS to your project defines to reduce exe size');
{$ENDIF}

I checked the defines in each one and it has NOFORMS;DEBUG

Its almost like it is not seeing any of the defines in the project

I restored my pc back to before in installed any application and just
installed Delphi 2007 did the 2007 updates and only installed ICS and still
same thing

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Behalf Of Francois PIETTE
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:27 AM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Install ICS SSL Delphi 2007 Problem NO SSL

 Any other suggestions. I tried everything I can think of

Restart everuthing from scratch.
First remove all files related to ICS from your harddisk, everywhere on your
hard disk, including pas, dpr, dfm, dsk, cfg, res, dcu, dcp, and bpl files. 
Remove ICS packages from the IDE (components / install component / packages
and REMOVE all ICS packages you can find).
Then use Tortoise or any other subversion client to download the latest
ICS-V7 from the version control system repository at
svn://svn.overbyte.be/ics/trunk or http://svn.overbyte.be:8443/svn/ics/trunk
(usercode and paswword are both ics).
Then start Delphi, and open
installdir/ics/trunk/install/D2007Install.grouproj. Rebuild the runtime
package, rebuild the design time package, install the design time package. 
Add installdir/ics/trunk/delphi/vc32 directory to Delphi search path (in
the IDE options).
Then open the sample projectgroup: 
installdir/ics/trunk/delphi/internet/OverbyteIcsD2007Sam.grouproj and
rebuild all samples.
This has to work ! If not, reinstall Delphi 2007 and start again.

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Re: [twsocket] Install ICS SSL Delphi 2007 Problem NO SSL

2011-02-03 Thread Marc Hale
I found this online 

I was wondering if someone could please confirm something for me. Recently I
found out that Delphi 2007 has problems with Conditional Defines,
something due to the use of MSBuild.

While it's been a recent find for me, apparently this problem has been
around since the release of Delphi 2007, and I was wondering if anyone knew
the status of this problem?

ie, the work-around is to disable MSBuild through the registry, but is this
a Codegear problem, or a Microsoft problem? Can we expect this bug to be
fixed, or are we eventually going to lose the ability to define conditional
compiles/builds within our applications with the migration to Microsoft
Build technology?


Trying to figure out how to disable it now

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Behalf Of Francois PIETTE
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:27 AM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Install ICS SSL Delphi 2007 Problem NO SSL

 Any other suggestions. I tried everything I can think of

Restart everuthing from scratch.
First remove all files related to ICS from your harddisk, everywhere on your
hard disk, including pas, dpr, dfm, dsk, cfg, res, dcu, dcp, and bpl files. 
Remove ICS packages from the IDE (components / install component / packages
and REMOVE all ICS packages you can find).
Then use Tortoise or any other subversion client to download the latest
ICS-V7 from the version control system repository at
svn://svn.overbyte.be/ics/trunk or http://svn.overbyte.be:8443/svn/ics/trunk
(usercode and paswword are both ics).
Then start Delphi, and open
installdir/ics/trunk/install/D2007Install.grouproj. Rebuild the runtime
package, rebuild the design time package, install the design time package. 
Add installdir/ics/trunk/delphi/vc32 directory to Delphi search path (in
the IDE options).
Then open the sample projectgroup: 
installdir/ics/trunk/delphi/internet/OverbyteIcsD2007Sam.grouproj and
rebuild all samples.
This has to work ! If not, reinstall Delphi 2007 and start again.

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Re: [twsocket] Install ICS SSL Delphi 2007 Problem NO SSL

2011-02-03 Thread Marc Hale
GOT IT WOKRING.

In the environment variables there was a setting platformbuild = BCB or HCB
I removed that and now the defines work all compiled fine.

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Behalf Of Francois PIETTE
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:27 AM
To: ICS support mailing
Subject: Re: [twsocket] Install ICS SSL Delphi 2007 Problem NO SSL

 Any other suggestions. I tried everything I can think of

Restart everuthing from scratch.
First remove all files related to ICS from your harddisk, everywhere on your
hard disk, including pas, dpr, dfm, dsk, cfg, res, dcu, dcp, and bpl files. 
Remove ICS packages from the IDE (components / install component / packages
and REMOVE all ICS packages you can find).
Then use Tortoise or any other subversion client to download the latest
ICS-V7 from the version control system repository at
svn://svn.overbyte.be/ics/trunk or http://svn.overbyte.be:8443/svn/ics/trunk
(usercode and paswword are both ics).
Then start Delphi, and open
installdir/ics/trunk/install/D2007Install.grouproj. Rebuild the runtime
package, rebuild the design time package, install the design time package. 
Add installdir/ics/trunk/delphi/vc32 directory to Delphi search path (in
the IDE options).
Then open the sample projectgroup: 
installdir/ics/trunk/delphi/internet/OverbyteIcsD2007Sam.grouproj and
rebuild all samples.
This has to work ! If not, reinstall Delphi 2007 and start again.

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Re: [twsocket] FTPCli problem.

2011-02-03 Thread Antol
Hello Francois,

Thursday, February 3, 2011, 11:03:36 PM, you wrote:


FP You said you reproduced the issue with your own server being interrogated,
FP so it should be easy for you to spy on the network at your own server and
FP see if the 226 answer is properly sent with his ending CR/LF.

No,  nobody  was able to reproduce the problem! By now I know only one
machine  that  has  this  problem.  I  only  gave  that user login and
password to my FTP server so he could try to find out whether it was a
server problem or client problem.

I've sent another FTP client to that user so he could test FTP passive
transfer with alternative software.




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