Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Arno Garrels wrote: SSH (Secure Shell) is available on nix platforms. Well, it is typically used on Unix-like platforms but there is software available for Windows most notably the popular Putty and WinSCP tools. Due to the lack of SSL SSH has been used in the past to tunnel unsecure FTP on those platforms. Today however most FTP server even in the Unix wourld do support SSL as well. Hmm, do you talk about SFTP? AFAIK SFTP is not just FTP tunneled over SSH but an own protocol (see [1]). If you talk about tunneling using SSH in general then I would say that this feature is still popular today as it does not need a full-fledged public-key infrastructure (see [2]) and is very easy to setup. The fact that SSL support is implemented in FTP servers by now might be more related to the fact that SSH is considered too powerful to be enabled on a public server :-) (see [3]). IMO the effort to implement an antiquated protocol, that is specific to the Unix platform, doesn't make much sense. IMHO it would make sense to implement such a feature-rich multi-purpose protocol in ICS but of course this wouldn't be an easy task. Regards, Tobias [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell#Uses_of_SSH [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell#Security_cautions -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Hi! Does the ICS FTP Client support SSH ? No, SSH is not supported by ICS. I don't know of any SSH implementation based on ICS (or any other Delphi library) so most likely you will have to implement it on your own. We want to use ICS ftp client in a secure mode. And the secure mode must be SSH (not SSL). If it's ok, how can I do or does a sample exist ? I would suggest to do port forwarding using Putty (see [1]) on the machine where the ftp client is running. Then you could use the standard ICS FTP client inside of your application by connecting to the forwarded port on the local machine instead of the remote port. Regards, Tobias [1] http://www.cs.uu.nl/technical/services/ssh/putty/puttyfw.html -- NOA Audio Solutions Vertriebsges. m.b.H. Tel: +43-1-5452700 Johannagasse 42/4 Fax: +43-1-545270014 A - 1050 Wien Www: http://www.noa-audio.com -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Tobias Rapp wrote: Due to the lack of SSL SSH has been used in the past to tunnel unsecure FTP on those platforms. Today however most FTP server even in the Unix wourld do support SSL as well. Hmm, do you talk about SFTP? AFAIK SFTP is not just FTP tunneled over SSH but an own protocol (see [1]). Ah ok, long time ago since I read about it. If you talk about tunneling using SSH in general then I would say that this feature is still popular today as it does not need a full-fledged public-key infrastructure (see [2]) and is very easy to setup. That makes it less secure, at least in a public environment. SSH keys do neither allow validation of key integrity nor identity of the key owner, AFAIK. IMHO it would make sense to implement such a feature-rich multi-purpose protocol in ICS but of course this wouldn't be an easy task. That's why I doubt that somebody will take the job unless required in a commercial project, in such a case it would make sense of course. -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
http://www.eldos.com/sbbdev/index-packages.php Full Delphi implmentation of PKI, SSL, TLS, SSH, SFTP, PGP, XMLEnc, XMLDSig, XAdES, S/MIME, PGP/MIME, etc. A nice addition to use with the ICS stuff for encryption. Tobias Rapp wrote: Hi! Does the ICS FTP Client support SSH ? No, SSH is not supported by ICS. I don't know of any SSH implementation based on ICS (or any other Delphi library) so most likely you will have to implement it on your own. We want to use ICS ftp client in a secure mode. And the secure mode must be SSH (not SSL). If it's ok, how can I do or does a sample exist ? I would suggest to do port forwarding using Putty (see [1]) on the machine where the ftp client is running. Then you could use the standard ICS FTP client inside of your application by connecting to the forwarded port on the local machine instead of the remote port. Regards, Tobias [1] http://www.cs.uu.nl/technical/services/ssh/putty/puttyfw.html -- Del Texley IS Administrator LIPA (541) 484-6430 This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Fastream Technologies wrote: Well the idea of SSH is still encryption. It would be an addition to ICS-SSL, not to ICS--IMO. SSH (Secure Shell) is available on nix platforms. Due to the lack of SSL SSH has been used in the past to tunnel unsecure FTP on those platforms. Today however most FTP server even in the Unix wourld do support SSL as well. IMO the effort to implement an antiquated protocol, that is specific to the Unix platform, doesn't make much sense. -- Arno Garrels [TeamICS] http://www.overbyte.be/eng/overbyte/teamics.html -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
[twsocket] FTP and SSH
Hi, Does the ICS FTP Client support SSH ? We want to use ICS ftp client in a secure mode. And the secure mode must be SSH (not SSL). If it's ok, how can I do or does a sample exist ? Arnold -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Hello Arnold, First of all, I think it would be better if you posted this to ICS-SSL mailing list. Second, ICS-SSL does NOT support SSH. We (Fastream) would be gald to see the start of a new project for it. Best Regards, SZ On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Arnold FLUTEAUX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does the ICS FTP Client support SSH ? We want to use ICS ftp client in a secure mode. And the secure mode must be SSH (not SSL). If it's ok, how can I do or does a sample exist ? Arnold -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Fastream Technologies wrote: Hello Arnold, First of all, I think it would be better if you posted this to ICS-SSL mailing list. Why, SSL SSH? -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
Re: [twsocket] FTP and SSH
Well the idea of SSH is still encryption. It would be an addition to ICS-SSL, not to ICS--IMO. Regards, SZ On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Arno Garrels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fastream Technologies wrote: Hello Arnold, First of all, I think it would be better if you posted this to ICS-SSL mailing list. Why, SSL SSH? -- Arno Garrels -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be -- To unsubscribe or change your settings for TWSocket mailing list please goto http://lists.elists.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/twsocket Visit our website at http://www.overbyte.be
