RE: [U2] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Adrian Matthews
You could add a security subroutine to the ED (and others like DELETE if
you wanted) voc item. If you put a subroutine name into field 4 of a
remote dict item then it will get called whenever that command is
executed.

We have one of these on the MASTER command. 
 MASTER

0001 R

0002 UV.VOCLIB

0003 MASTER

0004 *ITAudit

 UV.VOCLIB MASTER

0001 Verb - Used by System Administrator only!

0002 master

0003 E  



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To: u2-users
Subject: [U2] Monitoring file changes

Universe 9.6.2.1
Dec OSF1 V4.0F

In our payroll application, we've got a file, EMPMAST which is indexed
(Blacksmith Index for those that are curious).  Occasionally, records
are disappearing from the file, but not from the index.  The only way
that this should happen is from TCL.  I've checked the file for
corruption and it doesn't seem to be corrupt.  It's a dynamic file, but
so are most of our other files and we don't have any problems with
those.

Is there some way that I could monitor the file to see who deletes or
changes records?  Is there something else that I should be concerned
about?

I'm not sure if it will help, but I'm including an ANALYZE.FILE EMPMAST
STATS:

File name ..   EMPMAST
Pathname ...   EMPMAST
File type ..   DYNAMIC
Hashing Algorithm ..   GENERAL
No. of groups (modulus)    4501 current ( minimum 1, 93 empty,
1441 overflowed, 46 badly )
Number of records ..   18625
Large record size ..   1628 bytes
Number of large records    0
Group size .   2048 bytes
Load factors ...   80% (split), 50% (merge) and 80% (actual)
Total size .   12236800 bytes
Total size of record data ..   7385520 bytes
Total size of record IDs ...   82020 bytes
Unused space ...   4765164 bytes
Total space for records    12232704 bytes

-Mike Pflugfelder
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Re: [U2] UV wish list

2004-11-18 Thread Schalk van Zyl
Will,

But your wish had been true all the way!
I do it .  I am telnet(ting) from a Linux-box to the host AIX-box and UV 
10.1
Up and down arrows works, and I can go through the stack and enter on any 
one
(or change any and then enter)

Schalk van Zyl


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 I'd really love to be able to use the ^ and v arrows to scroll through
  my command stack, like in bash. I keep hitting ^ instead of .x!!

 My TCL stacker can be modified in any way you wish including use of 
 arrow keys.
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[U2] Certification

2004-11-18 Thread Brian Leach
Hi all,
 
I've been asked by a potential client to take the IBM U2 Family Developer
certification exam - tomorrow morning.
 
There doesn't seem to be any real material on the web to prepare for it.
Without giving away any of the contents grin could anyone tell me: 
 
Is it generic across UniVerse and UniData, or does it contain specifics to
each platform? 
In other words, being primarily a UniVerse consultant do I need to dust off
my UniData manuals?
 
Thanks,
 
Brian
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Re: [U2] [UV] Help with EVAL in SELECT statement

2004-11-18 Thread Mats Carlid
Brian Leach wrote:
Martin,
 

Not true!  Selection uses external format data. Where a field with a
   

conversion code is compared with a 
 

constant, the constant is converted to internal form prior to the
   

comparison. The LIKE operator works the 
 

other way around and converts the data to its external form as it couldn't
   

work any other way.
I think Mats is correct. 
 

No  Brian,  I  fatheaded   - the encephalagous? analog of fatfingering  
;^ ).

-- mats
The 'field' in question is an EVAL expression, so doesn't have its own
conversion code unless you explicitly state it using the CONV keyword. Hence
the confusion over the result.
Brian 
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Re: [U2] [UV] Help with EVAL in SELECT statement

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Phillips
Can't remember whether I said this yesterday but EVAL takes on the
properties of the first field referenced in the expression. Hence, if
BALANCE is defined as having an MD2 conversion, so will EVAL ABS(BALANCE)

It is interesting that the value for BALANCE shown in the original email has
more decimal places than any other field. My money is on the data stored in
the record having a non-printing character in it. The conversion then fails,
returning the original data.

I have deleted all the old messages from this thread so I cannot remember
who originally posted it.  Can you try going into ED for the relevant
record, type ^ to switch into up arrow mode so that non-printing
characters are displayed, and then look at the data.


Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4 6DB
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RE: [U2] Certification

2004-11-18 Thread Robert Paterson
The exam is generic, format masks seem to be useful - otherwise, if you
have a sufficient grounding and regular exposure to coding, you should not
find the exam a problem in my view.

(I took it on the off chance in Las Vegas and finished early and passed
with no preparation at all... So I would be confident that you would be
OK...)


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RE: [U2] wIntegrate text box

2004-11-18 Thread Ian Renfrew
Try adding the style property ES_WANTRETURN as part of the Opts variable.

Regards,  Ian Renfrew


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Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:08 PM
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Subject: [U2] wIntegrate text box

I've created a simple text box for wIntegrate and AccuTerm from within
BASIC.  The simple task is to allow data entry of up to 1200 characters.
When the [OK] button is pressed the contents of the text box is passed back
to BASIC.

AccuTerm works just fine.  However, wIntegrate is giving me no end of grief.
The problems are:

1) How can I press [Enter] in the text box without closing the text box?
2) What character(s) are passed back to BASIC for [Enter]s?
3) Does wIntegrate do what AccuTerm does and filter CrLf with VM/AMs?

Can anyone help?  It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill

Code snippet in calling programlooks like:
Opts = ES_MULTILINE|WS_VSCROLL|WS_BORDER
Opts-1 = 1200; ** the maximum length of field
WKAMT= NULL$   ; ** initialize the variable
CALL wIntDBEdit(DispData, 'News Item', 300, 125, 1200, 80, Opts, WKAMT)


The program wIntDBEDIT looks like (takenn from:
DBX  = NULL$
DLG.NAME = wIntDlgBox
dbName   = NewText
VER  = NULL$
tbxStart = INT((300 - 125) / 2)

** build dialog box
CALL WIN.DBNEW   (DBX, DLG.NAME, dlgTitle, 10, 10, 300, 125, '', Opts)
CALL WIN.DBEDIT  (DBX, dbName, tbxStart, 15, 1200, 80, Opts)
CALL WIN.DBBUTTON(DBX, OK, OK, (INT(300/2)-45), (125-25), '', '', 1)
CALL WIN.DBBUTTON(DBX, Cancel, Cancel, (INT(300/2)+15), (125-25), '',
'', 0)

** load the dialog box
CALL WIN.DBLOAD(DBX, ERR)

** test for already exists load errors
IF ERR = 3 THEN
   CALL WIN.DBDEL(DLG.NAME)   ; ** delete dialog box
   CALL WIN.DBLOAD(DBX, ERR)  ; ** load again
END

** test for load errors (in case we did it again
IF NOT(ERR) THEN
   CALL WIN.DBSET(DLG.NAME, dbName, strOut)
   CALL WIN.DBSHOW(DLG.NAME, 1, ERR)
   IF ERR THEN
  CALL WIN.DBDEL(DLG.NAME)
   END
END
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Re: [U2] PCL5/6 Universe / AIX printer setup question

2004-11-18 Thread TPellitieri
 Anyone have any insight on SMIT for AIX and how to set it up to eliminate
 character translations?

Here are the settings I currently have on my main print queue.  We use AIX
5.1 with UniData 5.2 and SB+ 5.2.

To see these settings, do the following:
1) At the AIX prompt, type smit
2) Choose Print Spooling
3) Choose Change / Show Print Queue Characteristics
4) Enter the Queue Name
5) Choose the Setup Option

Under Option 2: Default Print Job Attributes, I have the following:

[TOP]   [Entry Fields]
* Print queue name1ACCT
* Printer name[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  -- Text Print Options -
* TYPESTYLE and PITCH lineprinter  17
  Print QUALITY   600
  Print COLOR black

  --- Job Processing Options 
  PAGE NUMBER where printing should begin[1]
  Print file TYPE a
  Pre-processing FILTER NAME []
  INITIALIZE printer? no initialization
  RESTORE printer?yes

  --- Text Formatting Options ---
  TOP MARGIN (lines) [0]
  BOTTOM MARGIN (lines)  [0]
  Number of columns to INDENT[0]
  WRAP long lines?no
  Add LINE FEED or CARRIAGE RETURNLF-CRLF VT-CRVT
* CODE PAGE of print file[IBM-850]
  TITLE STRING for 'pr' filter   []
  LINES per page [0]
  COLUMNS per page   [2]

  - Paper/Page Options --
  Page ORIENTATIONportrait
  Input PAPER SOURCE  tray 2
  PAPER SIZE override for input paper source  letter
  DUPLEX output   simplex
(single-sided
  OUTPUT BIN destination  printer top bin

  - Header/Trailer Page Options -
  SEPARATOR PAGES none
  HOSTNAME for PRINTED AT: on HEADER PAGE  []

  - Messages/Diagnostics 
  DIAGNOSTIC LEVEL(normal) - print
job;
[BOTTOM]

Please note that the item's I've marked with the * need to match your
printer.  I believe that the critical settings are Print File TYPE (a =
ascii), WRAP long line?, and COLUMNS per page.

Hope this helps.

--Tom Pellitieri
  Century Equipment
  Toledo, Ohio
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Re: [U2] PCL5/6 Universe / AIX printer setup question

2004-11-18 Thread Lee Bacall
Craig,
Thank you - that could solve the problem.
Lee
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] PCL5/6 Universe / AIX printer setup question


 Hi Lee,
  Anyone have any insight on SMIT for AIX and how to set it up to
eliminate
  character translations?

 If you start smit, then go to Print Spooling - Change/Show Print Queue
 Characteristics.

 Enter your queue name or press F4 to list available queues. Select
 option 2 Default Print Job Attributes.

 Move down to Print file TYPE and select pass through or postscript to
 prevent AIX touching the job. You can also try setting INITIALISE
 printer and RESTORE printer to no.


 HTH,


 Craig
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[U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6

2004-11-18 Thread Carole A Cafasso
I have a custom application, originally written in Pick Basic, that is 
driven by Procs. 10 years ago, it was converted to Unibasic to run under 
Unidata (with the technical assistance of Unidata - oops I mean Ardent - 
oops I mean Informix - oops I mean IBM) to run under Unidata and the Procs 
are still in use. Now we are getting ready to upgrade from Unidata 5x to 
Unidata 6. Will the Procs still work?
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RE: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6

2004-11-18 Thread Kevin King
They should.  I don't believe any of the proc stuff has been EOL'd and
hopefully it won't be. 

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Cafasso
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Subject: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6

I have a custom application, originally written in Pick Basic, that is
driven by Procs. 10 years ago, it was converted to Unibasic to run
under Unidata (with the technical assistance of Unidata - oops I mean
Ardent - oops I mean Informix - oops I mean IBM) to run under Unidata
and the Procs are still in use. Now we are getting ready to upgrade
from Unidata 5x to Unidata 6. Will the Procs still work?
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RE: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6

2004-11-18 Thread Dave Tabor
--- Original Message ---
From: Carole A Cafasso
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 10:16 AM
snip  
Now we are getting ready to upgrade from Unidata 5x to 
Unidata 6. Will the Procs still work?
/snip
 

Hi,

Since I've been involved with Unidata (about 7 yrs), we've gradually been 
upgrading from Unidata 3.2 to our current version of Unidata 6.0.  We haven't 
had any problems with any procs running under 6.0 that were originally 
programmed with 3.2 or earlier.  They have been running flawlessly.

I should mention, though...  I can't promise that we're using ALL the 
commands/keywords/etc. that are in Unidata, so it's possible that there might 
be something out there that would be a problem.  If there is, it wouldn't be a 
regularly used command or keyword.

- Dave
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RE: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6

2004-11-18 Thread Murray Henderson
We still have plenty of Procs in use on our Unidata system and they seem to
work fine, haven't seen any issues with them.

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Subject: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6


I have a custom application, originally written in Pick Basic, that is 
driven by Procs. 10 years ago, it was converted to Unibasic to run under 
Unidata (with the technical assistance of Unidata - oops I mean Ardent - 
oops I mean Informix - oops I mean IBM) to run under Unidata and the Procs 
are still in use. Now we are getting ready to upgrade from Unidata 5x to 
Unidata 6. Will the Procs still work?
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RE: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6

2004-11-18 Thread Allen E. Elwood
I have done many upgrades using Unidata and have never had to do any changes
to any procs.  All the work was just re-customizing new versions of code.

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Subject: [U2] Using PROCs with Unidata 6


I have a custom application, originally written in Pick Basic, that is
driven by Procs. 10 years ago, it was converted to Unibasic to run under
Unidata (with the technical assistance of Unidata - oops I mean Ardent -
oops I mean Informix - oops I mean IBM) to run under Unidata and the Procs
are still in use. Now we are getting ready to upgrade from Unidata 5x to
Unidata 6. Will the Procs still work?
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread iggchamp
I've never used FILE.USAGE. Where can I find out more information such as where 
the information is stored, is there much of a performance hit while using it, 
etc...

Thanks

-- Original message -- 

 You can certainly collect statistics on the number of writes, deletes, 
 clear-files, etc., using the FILE.USAGE group of commands. 
 FILE.USAGE.CLEAR to reset statistics and enable collection 
 FILE.USAGE.OFF to disable further collection 
 FILE.USAGE to view statistics 
 
 This does not identify the culprit. However, we once used it to prove that a 
 file was being cleared (by a rogue ex-employee, as it turned out, who was 
 successfully prosecuted) even though the owners of the application swore 
 blind 
 (and could prove) that nowhere in the application was the file cleared. 
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Glenn Herbert
The information is stored IN the file header (see the Stats region if you 
have access to the internal file documentation).  And the performance hit 
comes when you close the file and all the numbers you collected over time 
(in memory) is added to the header values, which means you lock down the 
ENTIRE file (group 0) during that time.  It's not meant to be kept on for 
long periods of time.

At 12:59 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
I've never used FILE.USAGE. Where can I find out more information such as 
where the information is stored, is there much of a performance hit while 
using it, etc...

Thanks
-- Original message --
 You can certainly collect statistics on the number of writes, deletes,
 clear-files, etc., using the FILE.USAGE group of commands.
 FILE.USAGE.CLEAR to reset statistics and enable collection
 FILE.USAGE.OFF to disable further collection
 FILE.USAGE to view statistics

 This does not identify the culprit. However, we once used it to prove 
that a
 file was being cleared (by a rogue ex-employee, as it turned out, who was
 successfully prosecuted) even though the owners of the application 
swore blind
 (and could prove) that nowhere in the application was the file cleared.
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RE: [U2] wIntegrate text box

2004-11-18 Thread Bill H.
Ian:

Thanks very much.  My 1996 documentation doesn't have that style property.
After careful review of the 2003 pdf off IBMs website, I see it.

This gets the job done nicely.  :-)

Thanks again.

Bill

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 Try adding the style property ES_WANTRETURN as part of the Opts variable.

 Regards,  Ian Renfrew


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill H.
 Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 7:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [U2] wIntegrate text box

 I've created a simple text box for wIntegrate and AccuTerm from within
 BASIC.  The simple task is to allow data entry of up to 1200 characters.
 When the [OK] button is pressed the contents of the text box is
 passed back
 to BASIC.

 AccuTerm works just fine.  However, wIntegrate is giving me no
 end of grief.
 The problems are:

 1) How can I press [Enter] in the text box without closing the text box?
 2) What character(s) are passed back to BASIC for [Enter]s?
 3) Does wIntegrate do what AccuTerm does and filter CrLf with VM/AMs?

 Can anyone help?  It would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Bill

 Code snippet in calling programlooks like:
 Opts = ES_MULTILINE|WS_VSCROLL|WS_BORDER
 Opts-1 = 1200; ** the maximum length of field
 WKAMT= NULL$   ; ** initialize the variable
 CALL wIntDBEdit(DispData, 'News Item', 300, 125, 1200, 80, Opts, WKAMT)


 The program wIntDBEDIT looks like (takenn from:
 DBX  = NULL$
 DLG.NAME = wIntDlgBox
 dbName   = NewText
 VER  = NULL$
 tbxStart = INT((300 - 125) / 2)

 ** build dialog box
 CALL WIN.DBNEW   (DBX, DLG.NAME, dlgTitle, 10, 10, 300, 125, '', Opts)
 CALL WIN.DBEDIT  (DBX, dbName, tbxStart, 15, 1200, 80, Opts)
 CALL WIN.DBBUTTON(DBX, OK, OK, (INT(300/2)-45), (125-25), '', '', 1)
 CALL WIN.DBBUTTON(DBX, Cancel, Cancel, (INT(300/2)+15), (125-25), '',
 '', 0)

 ** load the dialog box
 CALL WIN.DBLOAD(DBX, ERR)

 ** test for already exists load errors
 IF ERR = 3 THEN
CALL WIN.DBDEL(DLG.NAME)   ; ** delete dialog box
CALL WIN.DBLOAD(DBX, ERR)  ; ** load again
 END

 ** test for load errors (in case we did it again
 IF NOT(ERR) THEN
CALL WIN.DBSET(DLG.NAME, dbName, strOut)
CALL WIN.DBSHOW(DLG.NAME, 1, ERR)
IF ERR THEN
   CALL WIN.DBDEL(DLG.NAME)
END
 END
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread iggchamp
Thanks a bunch Glenn

-- Original message -- 

 The information is stored IN the file header (see the Stats region if you 
 have access to the internal file documentation). And the performance hit 
 comes when you close the file and all the numbers you collected over time 
 (in memory) is added to the header values, which means you lock down the 
 ENTIRE file (group 0) during that time. It's not meant to be kept on for 
 long periods of time. 
 
 At 12:59 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote: 
 I've never used FILE.USAGE. Where can I find out more information such as 
 where the information is stored, is there much of a performance hit while 
 using it, etc... 
  
 Thanks 
  
 -- Original message -- 
  
   You can certainly collect statistics on the number of writes, deletes, 
   clear-files, etc., using the FILE.USAGE group of commands. 
   FILE.USAGE.CLEAR to reset statistics and enable collection 
   FILE.USAGE.OFF to disable further collection 
   FILE.USAGE to view statistics 
   
   This does not identify the culprit. However, we once used it to prove 
  that a 
   file was being cleared (by a rogue ex-employee, as it turned out, who was 
   successfully prosecuted) even though the owners of the application 
  swore blind 
   (and could prove) that nowhere in the application was the file cleared. 
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Dianne Ackerman
Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect information?
-Dianne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never used FILE.USAGE. Where can I find out more information such as where 
the information is stored, is there much of a performance hit while using it, 
etc...
Thanks
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You can certainly collect statistics on the number of writes, deletes, 
clear-files, etc., using the FILE.USAGE group of commands. 
FILE.USAGE.CLEAR to reset statistics and enable collection 
FILE.USAGE.OFF to disable further collection 
FILE.USAGE to view statistics 

This does not identify the culprit. However, we once used it to prove that a 
file was being cleared (by a rogue ex-employee, as it turned out, who was 
successfully prosecuted) even though the owners of the application swore blind 
(and could prove) that nowhere in the application was the file cleared. 
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Glenn Herbert
I believe if you run FILE.USAGE filename and all values are zero, then 
statistic collection is OFF.  You enable it using FILE.USAGE.CLEAR; disable 
it using FILE.USAGE.OFF.

At 02:54 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect information?
-Dianne
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've never used FILE.USAGE. Where can I find out more information such as 
where the information is stored, is there much of a performance hit while 
using it, etc...

Thanks
-- Original message --

You can certainly collect statistics on the number of writes, deletes, 
clear-files, etc., using the FILE.USAGE group of commands. 
FILE.USAGE.CLEAR to reset statistics and enable collection 
FILE.USAGE.OFF to disable further collection FILE.USAGE to view statistics
This does not identify the culprit. However, we once used it to prove 
that a file was being cleared (by a rogue ex-employee, as it turned out, 
who was successfully prosecuted) even though the owners of the 
application swore blind (and could prove) that nowhere in the 
application was the file cleared.
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[U2] [UV] Help with fnuxi

2004-11-18 Thread Jay Falck
I have some data files that I can't run fnuxi on because they have triggers.
How do I successfully move these files between *NIX and Windows without
having to drop the triggers?

 

Jay Falck, CISSP, CHSS

Unicorn Computing

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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Clifton Oliver
I don't think that's correct. I did some tests on this several years 
ago. If memory serves, when file usage is ON, counts are held in memory. 
They don't actually get written to the file header on disk until the 
file is closed.

Or am I mis-remembering again?
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Glenn Herbert wrote:
I believe if you run FILE.USAGE filename and all values are zero, then 
statistic collection is OFF.  You enable it using FILE.USAGE.CLEAR; 
disable it using FILE.USAGE.OFF.

At 02:54 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect information?
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Glenn Herbert
Yeah. I said that in a previous email.  The question was simply is there a 
way to determine if statistics are enabled and, without having to delve 
into the file header, listing out the statistics using FILE.USAGE is the 
only way to tell.   Of course, you are
correct that IF statistics collection HAS been enabled, yet the file has 
NEVER been closed, thus no header updates have occurred.

Ok. Tried this.  Statistics collection can definitely be determined using 
the FILE.USAGE command.  If they are enabled, the listing will also include 
a line such as:

Statistics last reset timestamp
(Statistics last reset Thu Nov 18 17:06:33 2004)
IF this line does NOT appear, statistics collection is definitely OFF.

At 04:22 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
I don't think that's correct. I did some tests on this several years ago. 
If memory serves, when file usage is ON, counts are held in memory. They 
don't actually get written to the file header on disk until the file is closed.

Or am I mis-remembering again?
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Clif
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Glenn Herbert wrote:
I believe if you run FILE.USAGE filename and all values are zero, then 
statistic collection is OFF.  You enable it using FILE.USAGE.CLEAR; 
disable it using FILE.USAGE.OFF.
At 02:54 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:

Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect information?
-Dianne
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RE: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Bob Woodward
If the file has never been closed, just do a quick LIST on the file.  If
FILE.USAGE is on then when you end the list, you'll at LEAST get some
read hits on it.

Bob Woodward
Programmer/Analyst
Harbor Wholesale Grocery
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Herbert
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes
 
 Yeah. I said that in a previous email.  The question was simply is
there a
 way to determine if statistics are enabled and, without having to
delve
 into the file header, listing out the statistics using FILE.USAGE is
the
 only way to tell.   Of course, you are
 correct that IF statistics collection HAS been enabled, yet the file
has
 NEVER been closed, thus no header updates have occurred.
 
 Ok. Tried this.  Statistics collection can definitely be determined
using
 the FILE.USAGE command.  If they are enabled, the listing will also
 include
 a line such as:
 
 Statistics last reset timestamp
 
 (Statistics last reset Thu Nov 18 17:06:33 2004)
 
 IF this line does NOT appear, statistics collection is definitely OFF.
 
 
 
 At 04:22 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
 I don't think that's correct. I did some tests on this several years
ago.
 If memory serves, when file usage is ON, counts are held in memory.
They
 don't actually get written to the file header on disk until the file
is
 closed.
 
 Or am I mis-remembering again?
 
 --
 
 Regards,
 
 Clif
 
 ~~~
 W. Clifton Oliver, CCP
 CLIFTON OLIVER  ASSOCIATES
 Tel: +1 619 460 5678Web: www.oliver.com
 ~~~
 
 
 Glenn Herbert wrote:
 
 I believe if you run FILE.USAGE filename and all values are zero,
then
 statistic collection is OFF.  You enable it using FILE.USAGE.CLEAR;
 disable it using FILE.USAGE.OFF.
 At 02:54 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
 
 Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect
 information?
 -Dianne
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Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread Clifton Oliver
Comments and responses embedded in the text below.
Glenn Herbert wrote:
Yeah. I said that in a previous email.
Oops. Missed that one. The perils of speed-reading.

Ok. Tried this.  Statistics collection can definitely be determined 
using the FILE.USAGE command.  If they are enabled, the listing will 
also include a line such as:

Statistics last reset timestamp
(Statistics last reset Thu Nov 18 17:06:33 2004)
IF this line does NOT appear, statistics collection is definitely OFF.
Very useful. Thanks!
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[U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guys,

Can someone who uses a current version of wIntegrate tell me
whether it supports connections via SSH?

I have a client who is switching boxes and looking to move
entirely away from telnet connections to SSH, but there are
one or two parts of the application which rely on
wIntegrate.  If we upgraded those wIntegrate licenses to
current versions could we just change the connection setup
and keep everything else the same?

Cheers,

Ken

Ken Wallis
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Blue Mountains, Sydney
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RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread Alfke, Colin
This was in the latest DB2 newsletter:

Announcing wIntegrate 6.0 
IBM wIntegrate, version 6.0, will be generally available on December 10, 2004. 
This feature rich release of wIntegrate delivers device independent deployment 
of MultiValue applications, advanced support of the Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) 
protocol and certification for sale in China. 
Check out the website for more details on this exciting release! 
http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=IMNL114J04


Following the link gave the wIntegrate overview with had:

Supports Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) communications for end-to-end encryption 
and authentication.

So it appears that you'll be OK.

Colin Alfke
finally back in Calgary!


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Guys,

Can someone who uses a current version of wIntegrate tell me
whether it supports connections via SSH?
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RE: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread FFT2001
In a message dated 11/18/2004 5:25:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bob Woodward 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If the file has never been closed, just do a quick LIST on the file.  If
FILE.USAGE is on then when you end the list, you'll at LEAST get some
read hits on it.

Bob Woodward

  If person A has the file open and person B does a list, is the updated 
information writen when person B ends her list?  Or when person A finally 
closes the file?  In other words, is the header information viewable, even 
though someone somewhere is still holding the file open?
Will


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Herbert
 Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes
 
 Yeah. I said that in a previous email.  The question was simply is
there a
 way to determine if statistics are enabled and, without having to
delve
 into the file header, listing out the statistics using FILE.USAGE is
the
 only way to tell.   Of course, you are
 correct that IF statistics collection HAS been enabled, yet the file
has
 NEVER been closed, thus no header updates have occurred.
 
 Ok. Tried this.  Statistics collection can definitely be determined
using
 the FILE.USAGE command.  If they are enabled, the listing will also
 include
 a line such as:
 
 Statistics last reset timestamp
 
 (Statistics last reset Thu Nov 18 17:06:33 2004)
 
 IF this line does NOT appear, statistics collection is definitely OFF.
 
 
 
 At 04:22 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
 I don't think that's correct. I did some tests on this several years
ago.
 If memory serves, when file usage is ON, counts are held in memory.
They
 don't actually get written to the file header on disk until the file
is
 closed.
 
 Or am I mis-remembering again?
 
 --
 
 Regards,
 
 Clif
 
 ~~~
 W. Clifton Oliver, CCP
 CLIFTON OLIVER  ASSOCIATES
 Tel: +1 619 460 5678Web: www.oliver.com
 ~~~
 
 
 Glenn Herbert wrote:
 
 I believe if you run FILE.USAGE filename and all values are zero,
then
 statistic collection is OFF.  You enable it using FILE.USAGE.CLEAR;
 disable it using FILE.USAGE.OFF.
 At 02:54 PM 11/18/2004, you wrote:
 
 Is there a way to tell if FILE.USAGE has been set to collect
 information?
 -Dianne
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Re: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread Bruce Nichol
Goo'day, Ken,
From my reading of the recent IBM pre-release of wIntegrate 6 (slated 
10th December, IIRC) and the trumpeting of SSH as being included, I'd 
venture that wIntegrate 6'll be the first.

At 10:08 19/11/04 +1100, you wrote:
Guys,
Can someone who uses a current version of wIntegrate tell me
whether it supports connections via SSH?
I have a client who is switching boxes and looking to move
entirely away from telnet connections to SSH, but there are
one or two parts of the application which rely on
wIntegrate.  If we upgraded those wIntegrate licenses to
current versions could we just change the connection setup
and keep everything else the same?
Cheers,
Ken
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Unclassified RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
Unfortunately NOT!

Ken wants SSH, but wIntegrate and the U2 server products support SSL.

Almost every other telnet client available - even free ones like
TeraTerm - supports SSH, but wIntegrate  Dynamic Connect don't.  Also
the U2 Windows telnet servers are not SSH-capable, so you can't use an
SSH telnet client at all on a Windows / U2 solution.

I have raised this before (with IBM, too) and cannot understand why they
have chosen the SSL approach rather than the more industry-standard SSH
for telnet connections. 


Mike

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Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 12:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

This was in the latest DB2 newsletter:

Announcing wIntegrate 6.0
IBM wIntegrate, version 6.0, will be generally available on December 10,
2004. This feature rich release of wIntegrate delivers device
independent deployment of MultiValue applications, advanced support of
the Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) protocol and certification for sale in
China. 
Check out the website for more details on this exciting release! 
http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=IMNL114J04


Following the link gave the wIntegrate overview with had:

Supports Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) communications for end-to-end
encryption and authentication.

So it appears that you'll be OK.

Colin Alfke
finally back in Calgary!


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Unclassified RE: [U2] RE: [UV] Monitoring file changes

2004-11-18 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
But unfortunately none of this FILE.USAGE stuff will work for the
original poster because his file is DYNAMIC, and FILE.USAGE doesn't
support DYNAMIC files, e.g.

FILE.USAGE A.DYNAMIC.FILE
Cannot process type 1, 19, 25 or 30 file path to file.


And since he's on UV 9.6.2, he can't use Triggers, either.
Hmmm

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Subject: [U2] Monitoring file changes

[snip]

Universe 9.6.2.1
Dec OSF1 V4.0F

[snip]

I'm not sure if it will help, but I'm including an ANALYZE.FILE EMPMAST
STATS:

File name ..   EMPMAST
Pathname ...   EMPMAST
File type ..   DYNAMIC

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Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread Bruce Nichol
Ken,
OOPS!  Sorry...
That's what I get for not knowing the difference  grin assuming there 
*is* a difference

At 13:24 19/11/04 +1300, you wrote:
Unfortunately NOT!
Ken wants SSH, but wIntegrate and the U2 server products support SSL.
Almost every other telnet client available - even free ones like
TeraTerm - supports SSH, but wIntegrate  Dynamic Connect don't.  Also
the U2 Windows telnet servers are not SSH-capable, so you can't use an
SSH telnet client at all on a Windows / U2 solution.
I have raised this before (with IBM, too) and cannot understand why they
have chosen the SSL approach rather than the more industry-standard SSH
for telnet connections.
Mike
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Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 12:45
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate
This was in the latest DB2 newsletter:
Announcing wIntegrate 6.0
IBM wIntegrate, version 6.0, will be generally available on December 10,
2004. This feature rich release of wIntegrate delivers device
independent deployment of MultiValue applications, advanced support of
the Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) protocol and certification for sale in
China.
Check out the website for more details on this exciting release!
http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=IMNL114J04
Following the link gave the wIntegrate overview with had:
Supports Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) communications for end-to-end
encryption and authentication.
So it appears that you'll be OK.
Colin Alfke
finally back in Calgary!
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Re: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread Craig Bennett
Ken,
Can someone who uses a current version of wIntegrate tell me
whether it supports connections via SSH?
Its a kind of backwards solution, but you could try using putty (a free 
ssh client) to connect to the system and then tunnel your wintegrate 
telnet connection through this.

Not elegant, but it would allow you to use SSH.
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Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Ken wants SSH, but wIntegrate and the U2 server products
 support SSL.
 
 Almost every other telnet client available - even free
 ones like TeraTerm - supports SSH, but wIntegrate 
 Dynamic Connect don't.  Also the U2 Windows telnet servers
 are not SSH-capable, so you can't use an SSH telnet client
 at all on a Windows / U2 solution.
 
 I have raised this before (with IBM, too) and cannot
 understand why they have chosen the SSL approach rather
 than the more industry-standard SSH for telnet
 connections. 

Thanks Mike,

Indeed, that is how it is.  My client would like to use SSH.
 Indeed, they currently have telnetd switched off on their
new boxes and they don't want to start it up unless
absolutely necessary.

I found an article (
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=686context=SSKJMPq1=SSHuid=swg21081430loc=en_UScs=utf-8lang=en
)on the IBM web site which included the following info:
-
wIntegrate version 5.1.0 and later supports the SSL (Secure
Sockets Layer) protocol for secure connections to the host.
There are no plans to officially support SSH (Secure SHell
or Secure Socket Shell) which is another way to secure
communications. SSH is incompatible with SSL. 

SSL is a protocol implemented in the communications layer so
most TCP/IP processes can support it. For example, HTTPS and
FTPS are SSL-secured implementations of HTTP and FTP. In
wIntegrate we use SSL with the Telnet process. SSL is a much
better solution than SSH and will be used by the U2
databases for secure connections.
-

I'm particularly interested in the line In wIntegrate we
use SSL with the Telnet process.  does anyone know what
that relly means?  How does one configure telnetd on a UNIX
box (Solaris 9 to be specific) to accept SSL connections and
talk to wIntegrate.  Further, if this can be done, can we
make sure that ONLY SSL connections are accepted?

Best Regards,

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RE: Unclassified RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

2004-11-18 Thread HENDERSON MICHAEL MR
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 Subject: Re: Unclassified RE: [U2] SSH and wIntegrate

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 How does one configure telnetd on a UNIX box (Solaris 9 to  
 be specific) to accept SSL connections and talk to wIntegrate.  

Ken,

As I understand it, you don't!
You configure your _U2 server_ to talk to your SSL-enabled 
IBM-supplied U2 client. Telnetd never gets involved in the 
security. This is more secure, as all the traffic is encrypted 
from U2 to wIntegrate, and would go through the telnet daemon 
encrypted, but it's of course completely different to the way 
everyone else does it.  Sigh.
Oh, yes and MUCH more complicated, too, as you need SSL Certificates
and all that kind of palaver

 Further, if this can be done, can we make sure that ONLY SSL 
 connections are accepted?
It's a Public Key Infrastructure problem, with Certificates  stuff.

 
 Best Regards,
 
 Ken
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