Re: [U2] Determining double-byte status of a character

2007-12-28 Thread Ray Wurlod
Check out the BYTEVAL and BYTETYPE functions.
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RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Symeon Breen
Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - why is it 
an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.  


Symeon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
Sent: 28 December 2007 03:56
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] testing

Like many on this forum, I get around 80 emails a day. They are sorted by
date/time and if I read a u2-post on the email at 2:00 pm that says What is
1+1?, I may react and reply to it without reading the answer on the 3:00pm
email (and 3:05 and 3:10 and 3:15 etc). I may have gotten some ebay emails
at 2:05, some enhancement emails at 2:10, an offer to help a rich African
dignatary at 2:15, etc etc.

Part of the volume are the excessive answers. On the D3 forum (available
anywhere and not just on an email client), you can see the date of the last
post to a thread. Plus, you will see the complete thread's content, no more,
no less.

So when someone earlier replies to the question What is 1+1, you can see
if someone else responded with 2.

My 1+1 cents
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MAJ Programming u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [U2] testing


 MAJ,

 Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email client
 that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that

 Of course if people don't read first nothing can help

 DSig

 Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote:

 MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method (like
 MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).

 MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe question
and
 MP PH answer.

 MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already seen
PH
 MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig about
 MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a great
step
 MP in the reduction of all

 MP Have a Merry Christmas.

 MP My 1 cent
 MP Mark Johnson
 MP - Original Message -
 MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM
 MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing


  Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your
 MP PHANTOM
  command to get the specific item I'd
 
  Perry
 
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 MP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  Sent: Mon Dec 24 11:39:00 2007
  Subject: RE: [U2] testing
 
  A wonderous and happy holidays to all!
 
  If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
  phantom question
 
  Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
  way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
  started the phantom with logging)
 
  Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)
 
  Thanks,
 
  Dougc
 
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  Subject: [U2] testing
 
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Craig Bennett
   But Symeon. You dislike email lists I dislike forums.
   I guess this perennial topic is due again.
   Craig
   Symeon Breen wrote:

Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - why is it 
an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.

Symeon.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
.org] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
Sent: 28 December 2007 03:56
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] testing

Like many on this forum, I get around 80 emails a day. They are sorted by
date/time and if I read a u2-post on the email at 2:00 pm that says What is
1+1?, I may react and reply to it without reading the answer on the 3:00pm
email (and 3:05 and 3:10 and 3:15 etc). I may have gotten some ebay emails
at 2:05, some enhancement emails at 2:10, an offer to help a rich African
dignatary at 2:15, etc etc.

Part of the volume are the excessive answers. On the D3 forum (available
anywhere and not just on an email client), you can see the date of the last
post to a thread. Plus, you will see the complete thread's content, no more,
no less.

So when someone earlier replies to the question What is 1+1, you can see
if someone else responded with 2.

My 1+1 cents
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MAJ Programming u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [U2] testing

MAJ,

Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email client
that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that

Of course if people don't read first nothing can help

DSig

Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote:

MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method (like
MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).

MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe question

and

MP PH answer.

MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already seen

PH

MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig about
MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a great

step

MP in the reduction of all

MP Have a Merry Christmas.

MP My 1 cent
MP Mark Johnson
MP - Original Message -
MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM
MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing

Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your

MP PHANTOM

command to get the specific item I'd

Perry

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MP [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Mon Dec 24 11:39:00 2007
Subject: RE: [U2] testing

A wonderous and happy holidays to all!

If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
phantom question

Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was a
way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
started the phantom with logging)

Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)

Thanks,

Dougc

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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:34 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] testing

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RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread George R Smith
I disagree - I prefer lists.
Grs

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:54 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - why
 is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.
 
 
 Symeon.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
 Sent: 28 December 2007 03:56
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Like many on this forum, I get around 80 emails a day. They are sorted by
 date/time and if I read a u2-post on the email at 2:00 pm that says What
 is
 1+1?, I may react and reply to it without reading the answer on the
 3:00pm
 email (and 3:05 and 3:10 and 3:15 etc). I may have gotten some ebay emails
 at 2:05, some enhancement emails at 2:10, an offer to help a rich African
 dignatary at 2:15, etc etc.
 
 Part of the volume are the excessive answers. On the D3 forum (available
 anywhere and not just on an email client), you can see the date of the
 last
 post to a thread. Plus, you will see the complete thread's content, no
 more,
 no less.
 
 So when someone earlier replies to the question What is 1+1, you can see
 if someone else responded with 2.
 
 My 1+1 cents
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MAJ Programming u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM
 Subject: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 
  MAJ,
 
  Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email client
  that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that
 
  Of course if people don't read first nothing can help
 
  DSig
 
  Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote:
 
  MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method
 (like
  MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).
 
  MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe
 question
 and
  MP PH answer.
 
  MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already
 seen
 PH
  MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig
 about
  MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a
 great
 step
  MP in the reduction of all
 
  MP Have a Merry Christmas.
 
  MP My 1 cent
  MP Mark Johnson
  MP - Original Message -
  MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM
  MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
   Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in your
  MP PHANTOM
   command to get the specific item I'd
  
   Perry
  
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Sent: Mon Dec 24 11:39:00 2007
   Subject: RE: [U2] testing
  
   A wonderous and happy holidays to all!
  
   If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one universe
   phantom question
  
   Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there was
 a
   way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
   started the phantom with logging)
  
   Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Dougc
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry-u2ug
   Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:34 AM
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: [U2] testing
  
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RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Jerry Banker
There are forums on the u2ug website if you want to use them. If you
changed this list into a forum that would be just one more site my
employer would ban us from so you would loose several people from here.
We're not allowed to surf the net all day at work. Email they won't stop
because we use it in our business so this is the best form for us. Yes,
I could sign up from home but then you would only hear from me after
hours and not necessarily when you need the information.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Symeon Breen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 3:54 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list -
why is it an email
 list, forums are just so much easier all round.
 
 
 Symeon.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
 Sent: 28 December 2007 03:56
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: Re: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Like many on this forum, I get around 80 emails a day. They are sorted
by
 date/time and if I read a u2-post on the email at 2:00 pm that says
What is
 1+1?, I may react and reply to it without reading the answer on the
3:00pm
 email (and 3:05 and 3:10 and 3:15 etc). I may have gotten some ebay
emails
 at 2:05, some enhancement emails at 2:10, an offer to help a rich
African
 dignatary at 2:15, etc etc.
 
 Part of the volume are the excessive answers. On the D3 forum
(available
 anywhere and not just on an email client), you can see the date of the
last
 post to a thread. Plus, you will see the complete thread's content, no
more,
 no less.
 
 So when someone earlier replies to the question What is 1+1, you can
see
 if someone else responded with 2.
 
 My 1+1 cents
 Mark Johnson
 - Original Message -
 From: David Tod Sigafoos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: MAJ Programming u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 11:36 AM
 Subject: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 
  MAJ,
 
  Of course a simpler method would to be for users to use a email
client
  that can perform threading .. even may web based ones can do that
 
  Of course if people don't read first nothing can help
 
  DSig
 
  Monday, December 24, 2007, 10:28:42 AM, you wrote:
 
  MP Perhaps this is why this forum may like a single thread  method
(like
  MP Raining Data's D3, Mvbase etc).
 
  MP 5 of the responses were identical to the Phantom on Universe
question
 and
  MP PH answer.
 
  MP Had the first reply said PH, the other four would have already
seen
 PH
  MP and not bothered. This ain't a quiz and with everyone complainig
about
  MP bandwidth, cycles and extraneous email clutter, this would be a
great
 step
  MP in the reduction of all
 
  MP Have a Merry Christmas.
 
  MP My 1 cent
  MP Mark Johnson
  MP - Original Message -
  MP From: Perry Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MP To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
  MP Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:56 PM
  MP Subject: Re: [U2] testing
 
 
   Output is saved to the PH file. Include the SQUAWK keyword in
your
  MP PHANTOM
   command to get the specific item I'd
  
   Perry
  
   - Original Message -
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  MP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Sent: Mon Dec 24 11:39:00 2007
   Subject: RE: [U2] testing
  
   A wonderous and happy holidays to all!
  
   If anyone happens to be reading this list , I do have one
universe
   phantom question
  
   Is there anyway to see what a phantom did?  At my last job there
was a
   way to see phantom output (it wrote to a phantom log file, if you
   started the phantom with logging)
  
   Hopefully there is something similar in universe (10.1)
  
   Thanks,
  
   Dougc
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
gerry-u2ug
   Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:34 AM
   To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
   Subject: [U2] testing
  
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RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Brenda Price
I am sure our host would be happy to allow someone else to put in their
FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES to do this.

-Original Message-
From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:11 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

So why don't we create one on google groups?  jBASE did (now they are
much smaller than U2) but they moved over everyone rather easily and now
users on that list have 2 choices, email or view the google groups web
page (I personally prefer email) 

dougc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:54 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - why
is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.  


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[U2] U2 forum

2007-12-28 Thread Doug Chanco
I am willing but if the website already has a forum why reinvent on
google groups?  But if we wanted to do it I am certainly willing, while
I am still getting back to speed on universe, forums and such I can
handle with ease and it be honest I have a pitiful life and the would
give me something to do with my FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES

Dougc


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:52 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

I am sure our host would be happy to allow someone else to put in their
FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES to do this.

-Original Message-
From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:11 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

So why don't we create one on google groups?  jBASE did (now they are
much smaller than U2) but they moved over everyone rather easily and now
users on that list have 2 choices, email or view the google groups web
page (I personally prefer email) 

dougc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:54 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list - why
is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.  


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RE: [U2] U2 forum

2007-12-28 Thread Jerry Banker
Before setting up your own I think you should probably check out how
well the existing forums are doing. Evidently they are alive and well
but strange that I hardly ever get a posting sent to me from there.

Jerry Banker
Sr Programmer Analyst
Affiliated Acceptance Corp
Sunrise Beach, MO
1-800-233-8483
www.affiliated.org

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:22 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] U2 forum
 
 I am willing but if the website already has a forum why reinvent on
 google groups?  But if we wanted to do it I am certainly willing,
while
 I am still getting back to speed on universe, forums and such I can
 handle with ease and it be honest I have a pitiful life and the would
 give me something to do with my FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES
 
 Dougc
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Price
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:52 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 I am sure our host would be happy to allow someone else to put in
their
 FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES to do this.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:11 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 So why don't we create one on google groups?  jBASE did (now they are
 much smaller than U2) but they moved over everyone rather easily and
now
 users on that list have 2 choices, email or view the google groups web
 page (I personally prefer email)
 
 dougc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:54 AM
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 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing
 
 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail list -
why
 is it an email list, forums are just so much easier all round.
 
 
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RE: [U2] U2 forum

2007-12-28 Thread Brian Leach
Guys

If you prefer a forum interface, this list is also available through gmane
and nabble. 
Just follow the link on the website.

Incidentally, I subscribe to the jBase group on Google, and find the
overquoting and lack of immediacy are a real pain compared to the directness
of this list.

Regards

Brian

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 Sent: 28 December 2007 16:22
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 Subject: [U2] U2 forum
 
 I am willing but if the website already has a forum why 
 reinvent on google groups?  But if we wanted to do it I am 
 certainly willing, while I am still getting back to speed on 
 universe, forums and such I can handle with ease and it be 
 honest I have a pitiful life and the would give me something 
 to do with my FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES
 
 Dougc
 
 
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 I am sure our host would be happy to allow someone else to 
 put in their FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES to do this.
 
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 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:11 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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 So why don't we create one on google groups?  jBASE did (now 
 they are much smaller than U2) but they moved over everyone 
 rather easily and now users on that list have 2 choices, 
 email or view the google groups web page (I personally prefer email) 
 
 dougc
 
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 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail 
 list - why is it an email list, forums are just so much 
 easier all round.  
 
 
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RE: [U2] U2 forum

2007-12-28 Thread Laura Hirsh
Also, if you subscribe to any of the U2UG forums, you'll get new posts to
that forum emailed to you. Laura- Original Message -
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Subject: RE: [U2] U2 forum
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:51:58 -


Guys

If you prefer a forum interface, this list is also available through
gmane
and nabble.
Just follow the link on the website.

Incidentally, I subscribe to the jBase group on Google, and find the
overquoting and lack of immediacy are a real pain compared to the
directness
of this list.

Regards

Brian

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug
 Chanco
 Sent: 28 December 2007 16:22
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: [U2] U2 forum

 I am willing but if the website already has a forum why reinvent
 on google groups? But if we wanted to do it I am certainly
 willing, while I am still getting back to speed on universe,
 forums and such I can handle with ease and it be honest I have a
 pitiful life and the would give me something to do with my FREE
 TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES

 Dougc


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 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:52 AM
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 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

 I am sure our host would be happy to allow someone else to put in
 their FREE TIME and FREE COMPUTER RESOURCES to do this.

 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Chanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:11 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: Re[2]: [U2] testing

 So why don't we create one on google groups? jBASE did (now they
 are much smaller than U2) but they moved over everyone rather
 easily and now users on that list have 2 choices, email or view
 the google groups web page (I personally prefer email) dougc

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 Which brings me round to my pet hate again - this is an amail
 list - why is it an email list, forums are just so much easier
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Bill Haskett
Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.

Is this a particular IT mentality?  Does this explain the many standards that
saturate the IT industry.  Do we really need numerous protocols to do the same
stinking things over and over and over!  Perhaps we in the IT industry ought to 
heed
this proclivity of ours and try to do something about it.  A good new years
resolution, eh?  :-)

Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Anthony W. Youngman
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:44 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

Horses for courses ... if you prefer a forum, why aren't you using the 
forum on u2ug? My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

(Oh - and as for the multiple replies, it ought to be well known that 
the mail server is throttled. So there's a good chance that when I see 
the what's 1+1 post, chances are there are several answers on the 
server that haven't been sent to me. Tough - that's the way the system 
works, unfortunately.)

Cheers,
Wol
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[U2] Server Processors (Universe)

2007-12-28 Thread Liesse, Dave
I couldn't find anything on the IBM web site, so I'll ask the next batch
of experts.  Does anyone know whether Universe takes advantage of
multiple processors on a server?  Any difference - from a Universe
standpoint (I know there's a difference physically) - between a dual
processor and a single dual-core processor on a server?  Thanks.

Dave
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RE: [U2] Server Processors (Universe)

2007-12-28 Thread Glen Batchelor
  I would think that's more of an O/S process scheduling question than a
Universe question. What O/S are you asking about? IIRC on *nix each user
session is a user process that accesses a shared heap, so it will be
scheduled accordingly. If the O/S is running a balanced load then each
processer (core) should be sharing the user process load. It wouldn't
surprise me if I'm wrong, though.


Glen Batchelor
IT Director
All-Spec Industries
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
 Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:19 PM
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 Subject: [U2] Server Processors (Universe)
 
 I couldn't find anything on the IBM web site, so I'll ask the next batch
 of experts.  Does anyone know whether Universe takes advantage of
 multiple processors on a server?  Any difference - from a Universe
 standpoint (I know there's a difference physically) - between a dual
 processor and a single dual-core processor on a server?  Thanks.
 
 Dave
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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread doug chanco
I for one did not notice any if you don't playing our way go home in 
his email.  All he said is that if you prefer using  a forum why are you 
subscribed to email when a forum is available on u2ug (at least that how 
I read his email)


the reason we need so many stinking protocls is that different people 
like different things and I for one do not consider 2 (email or forum) 
to be too many, now if we had


forums
emails
sms
IM
regular mail
etc,etc,etc

then I might say whoa enough already but having an email and forum 
option seem perfectly logical to me


dougc

maybe we should quit having so many stinking pick version, so many 
computer models, so many stinking computer languages and just 
standardize on just one?


you should be laughing now
:)

Bill Haskett wrote:

Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.

Is this a particular IT mentality?  Does this explain the many standards that
saturate the IT industry.  Do we really need numerous protocols to do the same
stinking things over and over and over!  Perhaps we in the IT industry ought to 
heed
this proclivity of ours and try to do something about it.  A good new years
resolution, eh?  :-)

Bill

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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Paul Law
I don't reply often, but thought my two bits might be worth something.

Some of us prefer push (email)
Some of us prefer pull (forum)
Some of us have no choice other than push as some IT departments block Internet 
access, but not email.

Personally, I prefer push, but could live with pull.  However, I'd hate to 
loose the last group if we went to pull.

And there's my two bits,

Paul Law
Programmer / Analyst
Value Part, Inc
Direct: 847-918-6810
Fax: 847-367-1951
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.valuepart.com/

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Sent:   Friday, December 28, 2007 3:09 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject:RE: [U2] testing

Wol:

I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and go 
home?
To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are too 
many
postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated mess of
things.

Is this a particular IT mentality?  Does this explain the many standards that
saturate the IT industry.  Do we really need numerous protocols to do the same
stinking things over and over and over!  Perhaps we in the IT industry ought to 
heed
this proclivity of ours and try to do something about it.  A good new years
resolution, eh?  :-)

Bill

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Anthony W. Youngman
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:44 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

Horses for courses ... if you prefer a forum, why aren't you using the 
forum on u2ug? My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

(Oh - and as for the multiple replies, it ought to be well known that 
the mail server is throttled. So there's a good chance that when I see 
the what's 1+1 post, chances are there are several answers on the 
server that haven't been sent to me. Tough - that's the way the system 
works, unfortunately.)

Cheers,
Wol
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RE: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread Bill Haskett
Doug:

A direct quote from Wol; My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, 
not 
there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)

My apologies if I've misunderstood his meaning.

Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of doug chanco
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 2:06 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] testing

I for one did not notice any if you don't playing our way go home in 
his email.  All he said is that if you prefer using  a forum why are you 
subscribed to email when a forum is available on u2ug (at least that how 
I read his email)

[snipped]

Bill Haskett wrote:
 Wol:

 I just don't get this attitude.  Why is it necessary to pick up our toys and 
 go
home?
 To say, if you don't do things my way I'm quitting the team?  There are 
 too many
 postings that forswear any solution that doesn't result in a complicated 
 mess of
 things.

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Re: [U2] testing

2007-12-28 Thread doug chanco
no need to apologize, its the holiday season after all and even if it 
wasn't there still would not be a reason to


we all have different needs/preferences for different reasons and each 
of them are as valid as the next


happy holidays!

dougc


Bill Haskett wrote:

Doug:

A direct quote from Wol; My preference is for email, which is why I'm here, not 
  

there! (and if this became a forum, you'd probably lose me.)



My apologies if I've misunderstood his meaning.

Bill

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Re: [U2] Server Processors (Universe)

2007-12-28 Thread Craig Bennett

Dave,

as far as I'm aware UV uses a process model for load balancing.

This would mean that multiple processors will reduce CPU contention if 
you run multiple UV processes at the same time (assuming that the 
operating system allocates them to different CPUs).


However multiple processors will not speed up a single UV process such 
as a single process batch job running overnight since the single process 
cannot use multiple CPUs.


I recall a discussion of multiple threading for TCL SELECT/SORT 
operations so this may not apply to these and they may be able to take 
advantage of multiple CPUs -- see the UVTSORT uvconfig parameter from 
10.1 onwards.



Craig
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