RE: [U2] validate active directory username & password from within unidata?

[Ross Ferris]

What platform is UD running on . I assume *nix? Do "you" need to do
this, or is it enough that the host OS has validated logon credentials
against AD?

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage > Better by Design!


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>unidata?
>
>Any ideas how I might be able to validate active directory username &
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RE: [U2] IDE

[Ross Ferris]

 In case you are in any doubt, I'm going to talk about
VISAGE

Hi Rudy,

You should consider our Visage product
(http://www.stamina.com.au/Visage/visage.htm) if you are seeking an
enterprise class IDE that is fully aware of your UV environment, and has
been designed from the ground up to leverage the strengths of
multi-value, AND your existing skill set, you will be hard pressed to
find a better candidate. 

In terms of simple code editing you get a syntax highlighting editor
with auto-completion, even for your own subroutine libraries. As well as
"normal code", Visage also includes our "Snippet Technology", which
allows you to build your own extensible macro notation to drastically
reduce the keystrokes required to incorporate custom code that conforms
to your site standards.

In terms of "gui-izing" and screen/form design, the Visage.Designer lets
you simply drag & drop dictionary (and non-data bound) elements onto a
blank canvas and attach code as necessary (which can also be inherited
from our extended dictionaries) which can execute business rules on
either the UV or client end of the equation. You can also easily
construct your own re-usable UI components that can be dropped on forms
to give a consistent look & feel, and avoid replicated effort, and forms
can also be re-used across multiple "processes"

Simple enquiry & maintenance screens typically require no code, and
Visage screens can operate alongside green screen counterparts without
having to change ANY code (important if you use READU locks currently),
so you can migrate at your own pace, rather than having to adopt a BIG
BANG approach to migration

You can also design "printer" forms with the same drag & drop interface
to your dictionaries, and reports/forms can be previewed onscreen,
delivered via email, fax, sent to a file --> heck, if you want you can
even send them to an actual printer! Importantly, you can also generate
Visage.ReportServer documents from your green screen applications via a
simple EXECUTE statement!

If part of your (re-)development includes facilities like Business
Intelligence/Data Warehousing, or even if you want to deploy BI
facilities with your current Green Screen apps NOW, then you should
check out Visage.BIT

The Visage suite of products is an integrated toolset that provides all
of the features required to quickly & easily deliver a 21st Century
solution that leverages your existing business assets. You can deploy
just those facilities you need today, and add the extra pieces of the
puzzle as your needs dictate in the future.

It may also be comforting for you to know that our largest VAR now has
over 16,000 Visage licenses issued, and our largest single site tips in
at 1,000 users

If you would like more details, contact 

Drew Conboy
Drexel Management Services, Inc.
Suite 301
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Drexel also have people on the west coast :-)



Ross Ferris
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>I have lots of answers, so the next post will probably be an ad,
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Re: [U2] validate active directory username & password from within unidata?

[Steve Romanow]

Bruce McAdoo wrote:

Any ideas how I might be able to validate active directory username &
password from within unidata?
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Re: [U2] IDE

[Jeff Powell]

I would like to add my experience to this thread.

I am using UniObjects for Java with tomcat / glassfish.

Thread safety depends on where you place you UniSession object. If you 
create it in a method it is thread safe. If it is created in the class 
(HttpServlet ...) it is common to all processRequest calls and therefore 
not thread safe. You can leverage off the persistence and trim overhead 
by keeping a single connection open and allowing multiple clients to 
make requests. I have this implemented and working well at my company.


Just my 2 yen.


Brutzman, Bill wrote:

Here is another design angle...

Although we use MS Exchange and Outlook, Excel, and Word, my boss
eschews Microsoft IE.  As I am not looking to talk myself out of my job,
I am not looking to force .net on him.

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[U2] validate active directory username & password from within unidata?

[Bruce McAdoo]

Any ideas how I might be able to validate active directory username &
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RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App [ad]

[Tony G]

From: D Averch
> We would not recommend to anyone that you try to write 
> your own connection manager.  We been there and done 
> that.  However, that is what you have to do in order 
> to guarantee that you don't step on your connections.

Well, you don't need to "write" a connection manager.  You can
use one that already exists at a very reasonable price.  As I've
mentioned many times in my blog, you can use mv.NET connections
to U2 from a variety of clients and middle-tiers, including PHP,
Java, Adobe Flex, old ASP (not .NET), devices, and of course
.NET.

See how mv.NET manages connections in the video on this page:
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RE: [U2] IDE

[Tony G]

Yeah, that was a funny statement.  Sorry Bill.  IE isn't .NET.  I
wish it were, and MS Office too because there would be a lot less
problems.  Many of the security issues are precisely due to the
fact that IE doesn't employ the .NET security model which
authenticates and authorizes code.  After all of this time,
Microsoft still hasn't delivered fully managed applications based
on their own framework.

I won't argue with the general sentiment.  IE has had issues for
years with stability and standards.   But technical or political
aversion (or attraction) to .NET needs to be based on .NET and
not on applications that don't even use it.

T

> From: Symeon Breen 
> Off topic, but in reply - I develop all my web pages 
> (asp.net and others) using firefox as the browser - i 
> then tweak the stylesheets to cater for the bugs in 
> ie6.  Ie7 and 8 are much better.

> From: Jacques G.
> Using .NET doesn't mean you're stuck with IE.  The 
> webpages which make use of dot.net services can be any 
> webserver.  You'd just have to develop with your 
> customer's browser to make sure it displays correctly.

> From: "Brutzman, Bill"
> Although we use MS Exchange and Outlook, Excel, and 
> Word, my boss eschews Microsoft IE.  As I am not 
> looking to talk myself out of my job, I am not looking 
> to force .net on him.
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RE: [U2] IDE

[Symeon Breen]

Off topic, but in reply - I develop all my web pages (asp.net and others)
using firefox as the browser - i then tweak the stylesheets to cater for the
bugs in ie6.  Ie7 and 8 are much better.

-Original Message-
From: owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jacques G.
Sent: 17 March 2009 21:24
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] IDE

Using .NET doesn't mean you're stuck with IE.  The webpages which make use
of dot.net services can be any webserver.  You'd just have to develop with
your customer's browser to make sure it displays correctly.



- Original Message 
From: "Brutzman, Bill" 
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:35:04 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] IDE

Here is another design angle...

Although we use MS Exchange and Outlook, Excel, and Word, my boss
eschews Microsoft IE.  As I am not looking to talk myself out of my job,
I am not looking to force .net on him.

--Bill
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Re: [U2] IDE

[Jacques G.]

Using .NET doesn't mean you're stuck with IE.  The webpages which make use of 
dot.net services can be any webserver.  You'd just have to develop with your 
customer's browser to make sure it displays correctly.



- Original Message 
From: "Brutzman, Bill" 
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 2:35:04 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] IDE

Here is another design angle...

Although we use MS Exchange and Outlook, Excel, and Word, my boss
eschews Microsoft IE.  As I am not looking to talk myself out of my job,
I am not looking to force .net on him.

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Re: [U2] Developers permissions with Windows and UniData

[Charles_Shaffer]

>   Does anyone have a clue how I can give someone administrator access to
>   UniData commands but deny them write privileges to the source code in 
our
>   application directory?


If it's linux you could use the /etc/sudoers file to give limited sudo 
capabilities for the deleteuser and stopudt commands.  Here's a link.

http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/06/sudo-give-selective-super-user-powers.html

Charles Shaffer
Senior Analyst
NTN-Bower Corporation
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RE: [U2] IDE

[Brutzman, Bill]

Here is another design angle...

Although we use MS Exchange and Outlook, Excel, and Word, my boss
eschews Microsoft IE.  As I am not looking to talk myself out of my job,
I am not looking to force .net on him.

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RE: [U2] UniObjects in Web App

[D Averch]

Kathy,

We wrote our own middleware called U2WebLink that uses UniObjects for Java.
The logging capability of UniObjects is not very good.  We added an open
source package called Apache log4j to our middleware to handle logging for
UOJ.  UOJ is not thread safe and the connection software you write must take
that into account.

We would not recommend to anyone that you try to write your own connection
manager.  We been there and done that.  However, that is what you have to do
in order to guarantee that you don't step on your connections.

Regards,
Doug

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RE: [U2] IDE

[Tony G]

> From: Doug Averch
> The problem with all of these suggestions by our 
> fellow programmers is that they are piece meal.  Get 
> this tool for editing programs. Get this tool for 
> gui-izing forms.  Get this tool to from Microsoft to 
> do this or that.

I've been watching the frenzy with interest as well.  I've spoken
with Rudy about development in the past so I won't place an ad
here.  The problem with answering a question like this is that
other questions and answers preclude coming up with a "right"
answer to this one.

Rudy likes the elegance of working within Visual Studio.  Does
that mean he's inclined toward .NET development?  If so then we
should stick to solutions that facilitate .NET development with
MV.  I recently published a blog discussing Flex and Silverlight
development, and how they both respond in different ways to the
frequent requests we see in these forums (low-cost, platform
independent, well documented, well supported, easy to get
developers, etc).  But unless someone has made a decision about
what technology they want to use, it doesn't make a lot of sense
to propose tools.  Heck what about tools for Ruby, PHP, or Java?

Rudy asked about SB+.  I'm guessing he wants to do web
development but maybe thick-client is a possibility.  That would
prompt mention of some tools in our industry and not others.

I've been using NetBeans for PHP here.  It's free and quite
popular but it's not "integrated" with MV, and that's the next
point: Rudy asked for an Integrated Development Environment.
That precludes text editors.  In addition to something more firm
about what technology is preferred, the next questions should
really be:
- What do you mean by IDE?
- What features do you find attractive?
- What are your real requirements?

I have lots of answers, so the next post will probably be an ad,
but I prefer to understand the problem better before proposing
solutions.  :)

Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
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[U2] Developers permissions with Windows and UniData

[Bill Haskett]

   We have a network with several Windows development machines on it.  UniData
   is  on  one  machine and our Web server is on another machine.  Our UD
   environment is set up so that only the administrator (me) has access to
   everything.  We have three additional groups:
   developers
   appusers
   UniData
   UniData  has  access to every directory where UniData is involved.  In
   addition, appusers have full access to their local account directories and
   developers have access to the application directory.  However, both appusers
   and developers have only read and execute privileges to the application
   software account.  This way, they can use the software but can't modify it
   at all (developers develop on a development account).
   The problem I have is developers use UO connections to develop and when
   something goes wrong they need to kill the connection.  UD requires only
   administrators have access to the "deleteuser" and "stopudt" commands.
   Thus, if a developer has done something that is create ever-expanding log
   (or como) files they need to be able to kill the connection.  If I give them
   administrator privileges they have access to the entire machine.
   I tried to remove administrator privileges from our development account but
   then  I couldn't log into a development account within our development
   directory.  I tried to make numerous modifications to the permissions but
   could do nothing unless administrator privileges were implemented to our
   development environment, even though "developers" had full control of the
   entire development directory and I was a member of the "developers" group.
   Go figure...
   Does anyone have a clue how I can give someone administrator access to
   UniData commands but deny them write privileges to the source code in our
   application directory?
   Thanks,
   Bill
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RE: [U2] IDE

[D Averch]

Rudy,

The problem with all of these suggestions by our fellow programmers is that
they are piece meal.  Get this tool for editing programs.  Get this tool for
gui-izing forms.  Get this tool to from Microsoft to do this or that.

Why not go with one built-in set of tools?  You can edit your programs or
dictionaries, you can develop Web based forms all from one platform, you can
edit your web objects, you can use CVS or Subversion for source control, and
you can install all of this software from the same tool.  What is this amazing
tool, you ask?


XLr8 was the first tool built on the Eclipse.org open source framework from an
independent company.  XLr8 encompasses XLr8Editor, XLr8ObjectEditor,
XLr8WebDeveloper, XLr8Installer, XLr8Replicator, and XLr8Resizer.  Your web
applications run on open source Apache Tomcat in either JSP or HTML.  We
support the most popular browsers: IE, FireFox, Chrome, and Safari.

U2WebLink is our middleware and it uses open source jabsorb.org to handle
these simple and lightweight AJAX framework that allows access to Java methods
using JavaScript.  This technology uses open source json.org as the data
interchange format instead of the heavyweight format XML.  This middleware is
much much faster than all competing products out there today.

XLr8 has built-in menuing, grid entry, login security, prompt level security,
job scheduling, auditing, replication, user tracking, logging, and debugging.
Why reinvent the wheel?


Call me for a demonstration of this amazing tool set.

Regards,
Doug
303-768-9601 x31
www.u2logic.com

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Re: [U2] Hash / File Types in Unidata

[Kevin King]

The best answer I ever got (from a very qualified IBM technical resource)
was "I think one is left justified and the other is right justified".  No,
it's not an answer, but that's all I've ever been told.
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[U2] RE: IDE

[Israel, John R.]

Our UniData database is on a Unix box.  I have mapped the key dirs to my PC.  
This allows me to use any PC editor I wish.  I usually use SlickEdit because 
that is an editor that lots of other folks here use for other applications, but 
I have also used Primal Script (the 2nd most popular editor here).  But again, 
since all my Unix stuff is mapped, I use whatever I want.  Of course, this is 
only for things in non-hashed/PICK files, but that is what I spend 99% of my 
time doing.

Since we use Redback, I use these same editors for my web pages too.

John Israel
Sr. Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Dayton, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380
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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Cooper, Rudy
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:55 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] IDE

Hi List,



I need some recommendations.



We've been coding using our UV text editor.  You know the routine, copy
and paste from 1 program to another.



I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for
development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability,
gui-izing, etc.



Any recommendations?  I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET
(Since we have access to visual studio).



We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users.

If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your
opinion, good or bad.



thx,



rudy



Rudy Cooper

Technical Project Lead

Sage Publications Inc.

2455 Teller Road

Thousand Oaks, CA. 91320

USA


T: 805.410.7724

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[U2] Hash / File Types in Unidata

[Raymond de Bourbon]

Can anyone provide me with a link / info on the differences between Hash/ file 
types 0 and 1.. 

I would like to know more about how these work internally, so that at design / 
file creation time, the files can be created with the correct intended type, 
rather than just relying on file stats to check group allocation, and then 
switching file types if the allocation is sub-optimal.

Regards

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RE: [U2] IDE

[Brian Leach]

Hi Rudy

First, for a Windows based editor download the free mvDeveloper from my 
website. It's written in Delphi, uses UniObjects and it's lean and quick. And 
free, or did I say that?

Second, download my primer on 'writing your first universe application' from 
the U2UG site. I know you're not new to UniVerse, but it is really a primer for 
using UniObjects.Net with VB.Net. That might give you some insight.

Using .Net for developing screens is fine so long as you have a sensible 
grounding. For fun take a look at SilverLight - it's easier than Adobe Flex 
since it has a sensible programming language behind it (C# not actionscript) or 
otherwise regular Windows forms will do the job - much easier if you can use 
permanent sessions (like telnet) rather than web apps, especially since you can 
use regular locking and should be able to reuse much of your existing code. 

But read my articles on data binding to objects (not to datasets) and using 
LINQ with UniVerse XML, in the latest Spectrums before going down that route.

Regards

Brian

Hi List,



I need some recommendations.



We've been coding using our UV text editor.  You know the routine, copy
and paste from 1 program to another.



I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for
development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability,
gui-izing, etc.



Any recommendations?  I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET
(Since we have access to visual studio).



We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users.

If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your
opinion, good or bad.



thx,



rudy



Rudy Cooper

Technical Project Lead

Sage Publications Inc.

2455 Teller Road

Thousand Oaks, CA. 91320

USA


T: 805.410.7724

www.sagepub.com



Los Angeles | London | New Delhi

Singapore | Washington DC



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Re: [U2] IDE

[Craig Bennett]

Norman Bauer wrote:

I'll chime in that I use Emacs with
UniBasic.elfor basic code.

  
Well if someone is going to make claim to Emacs, I'll have to point out 
how great Vim with the mvbasic syntax file is for basic code ...

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RE: [U2] IDE

[Symeon Breen]

As for tools for development use the new u2 IDE that runs on eclipse - it
carries on from the old unidebugger and ads more functionality.

As for gui-izing I can recommend designbais for quick authoring of web forms
and more.

Or if you want to do it all yourself I would recommend asp.net with
uniobjects.net, maybe even go down the silverlight route if you want a rich
UI distributed via the browser.

Personnaly I did j2ee for 5 years at the beginning of the century and am not
looking back 



Rgds
Symeon.




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[mailto:owner-u2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Cooper, Rudy
Sent: 16 March 2009 20:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] IDE

Hi List,



I need some recommendations.



We've been coding using our UV text editor.  You know the routine, copy
and paste from 1 program to another.



I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for
development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability,
gui-izing, etc.



Any recommendations?  I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET
(Since we have access to visual studio).



We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users.

If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your
opinion, good or bad.



thx,



rudy



Rudy Cooper

Technical Project Lead

Sage Publications Inc.

2455 Teller Road

Thousand Oaks, CA. 91320

USA


T: 805.410.7724

www.sagepub.com



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Re: [U2] IDE

[Norman Bauer]

I'll chime in that I use Emacs with
UniBasic.elfor basic code.

Norm

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Cooper, Rudy wrote:

> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I need some recommendations.
>
>
>
> We've been coding using our UV text editor.  You know the routine, copy
> and paste from 1 program to another.
>
>
>
> I have finally been given the green light to get pricing on a tool for
> development, creating forms (screens), document as you go, reusability,
> gui-izing, etc.
>
>
>
> Any recommendations?  I was thinking of SB+, Redback, and even U2.NET
> (Since we have access to visual studio).
>
>
>
> We're a development team of 3 for about 100 UV users.
>
> If your using any of the newer development tools, I'd really like your
> opinion, good or bad.
>
>
>
> thx,
>
>
>
> rudy
>
>
>
> Rudy Cooper
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