Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? If I can, I'd like to reiterate the questions I posed this time last year before I do vote. Hi all, I've posted an open letter regarding the U2UG elections to the nominees. I'd love to see more dialogue around these elections as I feel I don't really know what I'm voting for when I place my votes. http://u2tech.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/u2ug-elections-2011/ Along with this, I also wonder how many people on this list are members of the U2UG and how many actually vote? I've never seen any numbers. I know I'm one of two out of the roughly 20 U2 people at my work who know of the U2UG and am the only member. Not the greatest odds. On the positive side, it leaves a lot of room to expand. :) Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:56 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] Calling U2UG Members All, To those of you who are U2UG members (and if not, why not?) - a reminder that the elections for the 2012-13 board are under way. If you didn't receive an email about this, please (please) check your profile on the website - I've had a lot of bounces because email addresses are out of date. All U2UG members are eligible to vote, just cast your vote by logging in at: www.u2ug.net and selecting the U2UG Elections link between now and next Wednesday. If you don't see the link, you haven't confirmed your registration. Why does this matter? The U2UG is the recognized body for representing all users of U2 products - whether end users, developers or ISVs. The board meets fortnightly with Rocket to discuss concerns and future plans for U2 and to represent the views of the whole user community. Thanks all, Brian ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
You work for Rocket. There are 20 U2 people there, and only 2 have heard of U2UG. Words fail me. I'm not sure if I should be just amazed or righteously angry. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 9:12 am Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? If I can, I'd like to reiterate the questions I posed this time last year before do vote. Hi all, I've posted an open letter regarding the U2UG elections to the nominees. I'd ove to see more dialogue around these elections as I feel I don't really now what I'm voting for when I place my votes. http://u2tech.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/u2ug-elections-2011/ Along with this, I also wonder how many people on this list are members of he U2UG and how many actually vote? I've never seen any numbers. I know I'm ne of two out of the roughly 20 U2 people at my work who know of the U2UG nd am the only member. Not the greatest odds. On the positive side, it eaves a lot of room to expand. :) Regards, an Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Brian Leach ent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:56 AM o: 'U2 Users List' ubject: [U2] Calling U2UG Members All, To those of you who are U2UG members (and if not, why not?) - a reminder that he elections for the 2012-13 board are under way. If you didn't receive an mail about this, please (please) check your profile on the website - I've had a ot of bounces because email addresses are out of date. All U2UG members are eligible to vote, just cast your vote by logging in at: ww.u2ug.net and selecting the U2UG Elections link between now and next ednesday. If you don't see the link, you haven't confirmed your registration. Why does this matter? he U2UG is the recognized body for representing all users of U2 products - hether end users, developers or ISVs. The board meets fortnightly with Rocket o discuss concerns and future plans for U2 and to represent the views of the hole user community. Thanks all, Brian ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
Hold on, That is the quoted text from my email to this list last year. I don't think there is anyone on the Rocket U2 team that has not heard of U2UG. Also, there is many more than 20 U2 people here at Rocket. Cheers, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:52 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members You work for Rocket. There are 20 U2 people there, and only 2 have heard of U2UG. Words fail me. I'm not sure if I should be just amazed or righteously angry. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 9:12 am Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? If I can, I'd like to reiterate the questions I posed this time last year before do vote. Hi all, I've posted an open letter regarding the U2UG elections to the nominees. I'd ove to see more dialogue around these elections as I feel I don't really now what I'm voting for when I place my votes. http://u2tech.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/u2ug-elections-2011/ Along with this, I also wonder how many people on this list are members of he U2UG and how many actually vote? I've never seen any numbers. I know I'm ne of two out of the roughly 20 U2 people at my work who know of the U2UG nd am the only member. Not the greatest odds. On the positive side, it eaves a lot of room to expand. :) Regards, an Original Message- rom: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] n Behalf Of Brian Leach ent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 3:56 AM o: 'U2 Users List' ubject: [U2] Calling U2UG Members All, To those of you who are U2UG members (and if not, why not?) - a reminder that he elections for the 2012-13 board are under way. If you didn't receive an mail about this, please (please) check your profile on the website - I've had a ot of bounces because email addresses are out of date. All U2UG members are eligible to vote, just cast your vote by logging in at: ww.u2ug.net and selecting the U2UG Elections link between now and next ednesday. If you don't see the link, you haven't confirmed your registration. Why does this matter? he U2UG is the recognized body for representing all users of U2 products - hether end users, developers or ISVs. The board meets fortnightly with Rocket o discuss concerns and future plans for U2 and to represent the views of the hole user community. Thanks all, Brian ___ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
Will, How about a third choice? Dan's post is a RE-POSTING from last year, from before when he worked for Rocket... On 3/9/2012 12:51 PM, Wjhonson wrote: You work for Rocket. There are 20 U2 people there, and only 2 have heard of U2UG. Words fail me. I'm not sure if I should be just amazed or righteously angry. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 9:12 am Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? If I can, I'd like to reiterate the questions I posed this time last year before do vote. Hi all, I've posted an open letter regarding the U2UG elections to the nominees. I'd ove to see more dialogue around these elections as I feel I don't really now what I'm voting for when I place my votes. http://u2tech.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/u2ug-elections-2011/ Along with this, I also wonder how many people on this list are members of he U2UG and how many actually vote? I've never seen any numbers. I know I'm ne of two out of the roughly 20 U2 people at my work who know of the U2UG nd am the only member. Not the greatest odds. On the positive side, it eaves a lot of room to expand. :) Regards, an ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
I didn't comprehend that point at first. One would hope that Rocket would be solidly behind the U2UG -Original Message- From: Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 9:56 am Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members Will, How about a third choice? Dan's post is a RE-POSTING from last year, from before when he worked or Rocket... On 3/9/2012 12:51 PM, Wjhonson wrote: You work for Rocket. There are 20 U2 people there, and only 2 have heard of U2UG. Words fail me. I'm not sure if I should be just amazed or righteously angry. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 9:12 am Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? If I can, I'd like to reiterate the questions I posed this time last year efore do vote. Hi all, I've posted an open letter regarding the U2UG elections to the nominees. I'd ove to see more dialogue around these elections as I feel I don't really now what I'm voting for when I place my votes. http://u2tech.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/u2ug-elections-2011/ Along with this, I also wonder how many people on this list are members of he U2UG and how many actually vote? I've never seen any numbers. I know I'm ne of two out of the roughly 20 U2 people at my work who know of the U2UG nd am the only member. Not the greatest odds. On the positive side, it eaves a lot of room to expand. :) Regards, an __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
On 09/03/12 17:12, Daniel McGrath wrote: Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? When we set up the U2UG, that was one of the things we discussed. And seeing as you are eligible to stand in the elections, it would be a bit of a poor show if you couldn't vote! If you hunt up the constitution, it demands full disclosure if you work for a MultiValue vendor. That's all. If you wanted to stand for the committee, so long as you put I am a Rocket employee, and Rocket own U2 on your manifesto, that's fine. I can't speak for the current committee, but when I was on it we had several IBM as it was then people speak at meetings, and we would have been only too happy to have an IBM person elected on to it. Never happened ... Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
Dan Absolutely you should vote..! The U2UG is best served through its relationship with Rocket, so there is nothing to prevent members from Rocket from voting, standing or otherwise contributing. In fact, the more the merrier. (We do have Rocket U2UG members - though many haven't updated their email addresses from the IBM days so will have had their membership paused - otherwise we run foul of the anti-span people over here by having too many bounces when the newsblasts go out). And Wol is right, the main requirements for someone standing for elections are a) that they are/have been for a period a U2UG member at the time of their nomination and b) that they disclose their interests. So in the unlikely event that Larry Ellison signed up and wanted to stand - we feel the membership ought to be told. There's lots more stuff about that in our charter, which is available to view on the website. And regarding your questions, the board has been discussing pretty much exactly those same questions (and more) over the last month leading up to putting together our program for next year.. so any thoughts you or any other members may have would be welcomed. The U2UG is not a secret organisation and we(*) genuinely welcome contributions and ideas from everyone. Brian (*)That's we, if I get re-elected, or they, if I don't. Glutton for punishment. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members
Allen Egerton aeger...@pobox.com wrote: Will, How about a third choice? Dan's post is a RE-POSTING from last year, from before when he worked for Rocket... On 3/9/2012 12:51 PM, Wjhonson wrote: You work for Rocket. There are 20 U2 people there, and only 2 have heard of U2UG. Words fail me. I'm not sure if I should be just amazed or righteously angry. -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 9:12 am Subject: Re: [U2] Calling U2UG Members Hi Brian/U2UG, Now that I work for Rocket, I'm not sure if I should still vote. Thoughts? If I can, I'd like to reiterate the questions I posed this time last year before do vote. Hi all, I've posted an open letter regarding the U2UG elections to the nominees. I'd ove to see more dialogue around these elections as I feel I don't really now what I'm voting for when I place my votes. http://u2tech.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/u2ug-elections-2011/ Along with this, I also wonder how many people on this list are members of he U2UG and how many actually vote? I've never seen any numbers. I know I'm ne of two out of the roughly 20 U2 people at my work who know of the U2UG nd am the only member. Not the greatest odds. On the positive side, it eaves a lot of room to expand. :) Regards, an ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] New U2 BDT
I installed the new U2 BDT (Basic Developer's Toolkit) and attempted to
use it. In the U2 resource tab (after I created a server connection)
one gets a list of accounts. Drilling in one gets a list of files.
These include links ('Q'-files). When I click on one of the program
links I get the message:
Could not get contents of directory E:\UDAccounts\Dev\@ABO_SYS\BP on
server devserver. Error message: Unable to find the directory.
Ok, the file link I'm accessing looks like:
7 Dev (0)- AE VOC ABOBP
Top of ABOBP in VOC, 3 lines, 28 characters.
*--: P
001: LD
002: @ABO_SYS\BP
003: @ABO_SYS\D_BP
Bottom.
...so it appears the tool is appending the file path onto the VOC
information. Unfortunately, in UD on Windows we use environment
variables, so the reference @ABO_SYS is a defined environment variable
path. It appears, therefore, that one cannot reference programs and
data from links. Secondly, there doesn't seem to be any timeout manager
(or keepalive setting) because my RPC times-out because I've set it to
do so.
I guess this alone makes use of this tool problematic for me. Can
anyone inform me that I'm mistaken and simply have to make a few
settings to overcome these basic impediments? I guess I just have to go
back to WED. :-(
Thanks,
--
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[U2] Global Catalog: Universe vs. Unidata
On Unidata, globally cataloguing a program causes it to run in a separate memory space so that if 10 users are running the program, only one copy of the routine is loaded into memory. From the docs: Multiple users can run globally cataloged programs simultaneously — UniData brings one copy of the program into shared memory. Is the same true for globally cataloguing on Universe? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Global Catalog: Universe vs. Unidata
The concept is similar, but there's an additional step. See UV 11.1 Administering Universe pdF, Chapter 18, UniAdmin pdf, Chapter 16, Managing Catalog Shared Menu. Most UV shops in my experience don't bother with it, but I think it's a good tool and not difficult to master. cds On 3/9/2012 6:02 PM, Kevin King wrote: On Unidata, globally cataloguing a program causes it to run in a separate memory space so that if 10 users are running the program, only one copy of the routine is loaded into memory. From the docs: Multiple users can run globally cataloged programs simultaneously — UniData brings one copy of the program into shared memory. Is the same true for globally cataloguing on Universe? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Global Catalog: Universe vs. Unidata
Universe shared memory can bite. The speed improvement is probably not an issue, unless you are truly running a subroutine ten thousand times every hour. -Original Message- From: Charles Stevenson stevenson.c...@gmail.com To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Fri, Mar 9, 2012 4:48 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Global Catalog: Universe vs. Unidata The concept is similar, but there's an additional step. See UV 11.1 Administering Universe pdF, Chapter 18, UniAdmin pdf, Chapter 16, Managing Catalog Shared Menu. ost UV shops in my experience don't bother with it, but I think it's a ood tool and not difficult to master. cds On 3/9/2012 6:02 PM, Kevin King wrote: On Unidata, globally cataloguing a program causes it to run in a separate memory space so that if 10 users are running the program, only one copy of the routine is loaded into memory. From the docs: Multiple users can run globally cataloged programs simultaneously — UniData brings one copy of the program into shared memory. Is the same true for globally cataloguing on Universe? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users __ 2-Users mailing list 2-us...@listserver.u2ug.org ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] New U2 BDT
Hi Bill:
BDT uses UOJ for connection which does not support environmental variables.
You would have to shell out to get them and convert the files manually. I
looked in the manuals and did not find an alternative.
BDT does not have a keep alive. The default for a UOJ session is an hour.
If you do not do anything in that hour you have to reconnect again. BDT's
advance settings do not allow you to change the default even though UOJ
supports changing this parameter.
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bill Haskett wphask...@advantos.net wrote:
I installed the new U2 BDT (Basic Developer's Toolkit) and attempted to
use it. In the U2 resource tab (after I created a server connection) one
gets a list of accounts. Drilling in one gets a list of files. These
include links ('Q'-files). When I click on one of the program links I get
the message:
Could not get contents of directory E:\UDAccounts\Dev\@ABO_SYS\**BP on
server devserver. Error message: Unable to find the directory.
Ok, the file link I'm accessing looks like:
7 Dev (0)- AE VOC ABOBP
Top of ABOBP in VOC, 3 lines, 28 characters.
*--: P
001: LD
002: @ABO_SYS\BP
003: @ABO_SYS\D_BP
Bottom.
...so it appears the tool is appending the file path onto the VOC
information. Unfortunately, in UD on Windows we use environment variables,
so the reference @ABO_SYS is a defined environment variable path. It
appears, therefore, that one cannot reference programs and data from links.
Secondly, there doesn't seem to be any timeout manager (or keepalive
setting) because my RPC times-out because I've set it to do so.
I guess this alone makes use of this tool problematic for me. Can anyone
inform me that I'm mistaken and simply have to make a few settings to
overcome these basic impediments? I guess I just have to go back to WED.
:-(
Thanks,
--
Bill Haskett
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Re: [U2] New U2 BDT
Thanks Doug.
Just another product that forces me to dance to their tune rather than
letting me work in the most efficient manner that 20 years of experience
has taught me. Yes, they're much smarter and better than me.
But then, my daughter informs me just how stupid I am on a daily basis! :-)
So, I guess WED is my editor of choice. After all the crap I'm forced
to download and install, one would think simple editing functions would
work. I guess not. [sigh]
Bill
- Original Message -
*From:* dave...@gmail.com
*To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 3/9/2012 6:11 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] New U2 BDT
Hi Bill:
BDT uses UOJ for connection which does not support environmental variables.
You would have to shell out to get them and convert the files manually. I
looked in the manuals and did not find an alternative.
BDT does not have a keep alive. The default for a UOJ session is an hour.
If you do not do anything in that hour you have to reconnect again. BDT's
advance settings do not allow you to change the default even though UOJ
supports changing this parameter.
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Bill Haskettwphask...@advantos.net wrote:
I installed the new U2 BDT (Basic Developer's Toolkit) and attempted to
use it. In the U2 resource tab (after I created a server connection) one
gets a list of accounts. Drilling in one gets a list of files. These
include links ('Q'-files). When I click on one of the program links I get
the message:
Could not get contents of directory E:\UDAccounts\Dev\@ABO_SYS\**BP on
server devserver. Error message: Unable to find the directory.
Ok, the file link I'm accessing looks like:
7 Dev (0)- AE VOC ABOBP
Top of ABOBP in VOC, 3 lines, 28 characters.
*--: P
001: LD
002: @ABO_SYS\BP
003: @ABO_SYS\D_BP
Bottom.
...so it appears the tool is appending the file path onto the VOC
information. Unfortunately, in UD on Windows we use environment variables,
so the reference @ABO_SYS is a defined environment variable path. It
appears, therefore, that one cannot reference programs and data from links.
Secondly, there doesn't seem to be any timeout manager (or keepalive
setting) because my RPC times-out because I've set it to do so.
I guess this alone makes use of this tool problematic for me. Can anyone
inform me that I'm mistaken and simply have to make a few settings to
overcome these basic impediments? I guess I just have to go back to WED.
:-(
Thanks,
--
Bill Haskett
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