[U2] UV telnet disconnects over WAN
Ever since we switched to a new network (but before as well), we've experienced lots of unexpected disconnects--people in the middle of transactions or actively doing things suddenly becoming disconnected, often leaving the transaction they were in locked which I then must clear manually. The new network is a DSL-based MPLS product, which basically means ISPs throughout the country resell last mile connectivity, and at the DSLAM tunnel it to our (private) network service provider, which then gets routed to us. Ping times are better and more consistent than the old frame relay network but disconnects more frequent. I am hoping that switching from Systech devices and Cisco 2500s serving ADDS terminals to thin clients with AccuTerm and the send keepalives option on in the telnet options will prevent this from happening. Anyone had experience with this type of problem? Thanks Gabe --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV telnet disconnects over WAN
I am going to take a wild guess that you are in the US and hence my UK experiences are probably worthless. For a long time, we have had a 512k ADSL connection because it was all that was available at our location. Ten days ago we upgraded to an 8M connection. It has been a disaster and is currently running at an effective rate of about 300k with frequent disconnects (Sometimes every few seconds). Our telecomms supplier tells us that some degree of difficulty is normal in the first few days of a new connection as it goes through a period of line training, however, what we are seeing is not to be expected. We had an engineer here this morning who has gone off scratching his head. If anything that might be applicable to you comes out of this, I'll post another reply. Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Ltd --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV telnet disconnects over WAN
The new network is a DSL-based MPLS product We use DSL at our Montreal office but over LAN Extension which is also a Bell network but no guaranteed service level. We run about 120 telnet connections, and we do not have any issues. Ping times vary from 20ms to 800ms. We had some issues early on, ping times over 2 seconds which caused disconnects. Bell had to come in and remove the staple that nicked the cable. Steve Ferries TCR Ltd --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV telnet disconnects over WAN
Probably not relevant ... I know some early Demon broadband adopters had nightmares when BT upgraded their kit. Because it wouldn't affect any subscribers they did it without informing any ISPs, with the result that when customers complained the ISPs didn't have a clue. If you were an early broadband adopter, I'd get the terminator in your exchange checked out, but it shouldn't be a problem. Note for non-brits - this upgrade is free because BT want to upgrade their kit, but it's a nightmare when things go wrong because they're not giving customers a choice. You go from a guaranteed 512Mb to a 8Mb at best connection, and a lot of people have reported connection speeds falling. I'm lucky - living maybe 100yds from the exchange I think I get about 5.7Mb connection speed :-) And when things go wrong, if you're not a BT customer it's a nightmare because they won't talk to you and everything goes the Chinese-whispers route via your ISP ... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: Martin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 June 2007 15:36 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] UV telnet disconnects over WAN I am going to take a wild guess that you are in the US and hence my UK experiences are probably worthless. For a long time, we have had a 512k ADSL connection because it was all that was available at our location. Ten days ago we upgraded to an 8M connection. It has been a disaster and is currently running at an effective rate of about 300k with frequent disconnects (Sometimes every few seconds). Our telecomms supplier tells us that some degree of difficulty is normal in the first few days of a new connection as it goes through a period of line training, however, what we are seeing is not to be expected. We had an engineer here this morning who has gone off scratching his head. If anything that might be applicable to you comes out of this, I'll post another reply. Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Ltd --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
Interesting attitude. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 02 November 2004 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2][UV]telnet Au contrair. Tom Firl was able to give me exactly what I needed. I was able to build a PAragraph with inputs that executed a sh -c script passing the inputs to allow login and execution of a shell script. I was after concept and Tom gave me concept. (See below.) I used echo to pass my inputs and all worked just fine. If you were frustrated with my posting then perhaps you didn't have the answer. SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' Adrian Matthews wrote: I must admit that the original post is a good example of one of the things I find really frustrating about this list. People just don't give enough info to get any real help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar Sent: 29 October 2004 13:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Bob: I think Stu is trying to run another data entry application via telnet, without the user realizing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Witney Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Stu: I think that you are attempting to so something akin to this; ftp -iv servername EOF cd /account cd ramis_archive cd /account/CRG.VENDOR get filename quit EOF Where the login would be a line in .netrc on your home account i.e machine servername login loginid password passwordone I don't think that you can invoke a telnet session the same way Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 28 October 2004 19:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
What I was getting at is that it easier to help people if they explain the issue they are trying to solve rather than a problem with a particular solution. For example, if you wanted to run a remote telnet session to another U2 server just to execute another program then I might have suggested an RPC call. It still might be the case that a telnet script is not the best solution to what you are doing, but without knowing why you want to do it... Besides I only made the comment after postings from other people saying perhaps he's doing this or maybe he's doing that so obviously a lot of people wanted more detail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 02 November 2004 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2][UV]telnet Au contrair. Tom Firl was able to give me exactly what I needed. I was able to build a PAragraph with inputs that executed a sh -c script passing the inputs to allow login and execution of a shell script. I was after concept and Tom gave me concept. (See below.) I used echo to pass my inputs and all worked just fine. If you were frustrated with my posting then perhaps you didn't have the answer. SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' Adrian Matthews wrote: I must admit that the original post is a good example of one of the things I find really frustrating about this list. People just don't give enough info to get any real help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar Sent: 29 October 2004 13:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Bob: I think Stu is trying to run another data entry application via telnet, without the user realizing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Witney Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Stu: I think that you are attempting to so something akin to this; ftp -iv servername EOF cd /account cd ramis_archive cd /account/CRG.VENDOR get filename quit EOF Where the login would be a line in .netrc on your home account i.e machine servername login loginid password passwordone I don't think that you can invoke a telnet session the same way Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 28 October 2004 19:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
I apologize for my incomplete response. Perhaps I should have said didn't have the quick answer I was looking for. This forum is a great place to share ideas and anyone who offends here may not get the help they are looking for. The only problem with this forum is the over response and analysis when a simple solution is wanted. I didn't want to reply to every email, nor do I have the time to do so, so I was waiting for sufficient reply to see if someone had my answer. Yes, there are other ways to solve my problem but Tom recognized my request for a simple example and an answer that met my needs. Sorry if I offended. Adrian Matthews wrote: What I was getting at is that it easier to help people if they explain the issue they are trying to solve rather than a problem with a particular solution. For example, if you wanted to run a remote telnet session to another U2 server just to execute another program then I might have suggested an RPC call. It still might be the case that a telnet script is not the best solution to what you are doing, but without knowing why you want to do it... Besides I only made the comment after postings from other people saying perhaps he's doing this or maybe he's doing that so obviously a lot of people wanted more detail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 02 November 2004 18:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2][UV]telnet Au contrair. Tom Firl was able to give me exactly what I needed. I was able to build a PAragraph with inputs that executed a sh -c script passing the inputs to allow login and execution of a shell script. I was after concept and Tom gave me concept. (See below.) I used echo to pass my inputs and all worked just fine. If you were frustrated with my posting then perhaps you didn't have the answer. SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' Adrian Matthews wrote: I must admit that the original post is a good example of one of the things I find really frustrating about this list. People just don't give enough info to get any real help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar Sent: 29 October 2004 13:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Bob: I think Stu is trying to run another data entry application via telnet, without the user realizing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Witney Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Stu: I think that you are attempting to so something akin to this; ftp -iv servername EOF cd /account cd ramis_archive cd /account/CRG.VENDOR get filename quit EOF Where the login would be a line in .netrc on your home account i.e machine servername login loginid password passwordone I don't think that you can invoke a telnet session the same way Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 28 October 2004 19:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
Au contrair. Tom Firl was able to give me exactly what I needed. I was able to build a PAragraph with inputs that executed a sh -c script passing the inputs to allow login and execution of a shell script. I was after concept and Tom gave me concept. (See below.) I used echo to pass my inputs and all worked just fine. If you were frustrated with my posting then perhaps you didn't have the answer. SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' Adrian Matthews wrote: I must admit that the original post is a good example of one of the things I find really frustrating about this list. People just don't give enough info to get any real help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Gozar Sent: 29 October 2004 13:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Bob: I think Stu is trying to run another data entry application via telnet, without the user realizing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Witney Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Stu: I think that you are attempting to so something akin to this; ftp -iv servername EOF cd /account cd ramis_archive cd /account/CRG.VENDOR get filename quit EOF Where the login would be a line in .netrc on your home account i.e machine servername login loginid password passwordone I don't think that you can invoke a telnet session the same way Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 28 October 2004 19:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
I started a project, but have not got around to completing it. This was to use the socket API in universe BASIC to talk to a telnet service. This was to enable a UniVerse Application to interface with external applications that have a telnet interface. I got it partly working, but have not had the time to fully configure the telnet functions and I am not that experienced with the telnet API, but this sounds like one type of solution to this problem Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
In a message dated 10/30/2004 3:50:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are right however, that most windows telnet clients/terminal emulators allow session startup to be scripted. If the original user will be connected via a PC, then perhaps the solution is to try and work out how the BASIC app can invoke a new terminal emulation session to another host FROM THE PC. Wintegrate has subroutine calls you can make to get something run on the PC, Accuterm probably does too. Yes it doesn't matter where the OP is. What matters is where the CONNECTOR is i.e. the human-machine connecting *into* that OP. I'm pretty confident that the answer has to be on a Windows PC... of course they may be running xterm or green-screen or Macintosh for that matter ;) At any rate, from a BASIC program, running in an OP on Unix, Windows, or Linux, or anything really, certain PRINT statements, piped through Accuterm make Accuterm wake up and say Hey they are asking ME to do something. In other words, certain characters are a *signal* to Accuterm to act, not just display. That action can be Launch a script. So at any point in any BASIC program you can launch an Accuterm script to do whatever you want. Either on the PC, or piping back into the BASIC program for that matter. SO you can say get the time which launches an Accuterm script to connect via your Internet gateway off your PC to the Universal clock in Greenwich, cuts and pastes the answer back into your BASIC program running MvBase on a native ADDS machine from 1994! (or something like that). In addition to launching on-demand scripts, you can also launch on-startup scripts. That is, your command line changes from C:/Program Files/Accuterm.exe to C:/Program Files/Accuterm.exe domystuff.scr When you click that desktop icon, it launches that script at startup. That script can then test the telnet session, wait for LOGIN, answer it, wait for PASSWORD, answer it, exit the menu, and run the command ERASEEVERYTHING_CAUSE_THEY_JUST_FIRED_ME :) You know... and stuff... just kidding by the way. Will Johnson --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
In a message dated 10/28/2004 7:10:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you just trying to fire up a telnet session and get it logged in so a user can then start interacting with a system? If so, then you essentially have to write your own telnet client/terminal emulator. Not true. Accuterm for example, can launch a script upon opening. That script can log you in. You don't have to write your own telnet ... Will --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you just trying to fire up a telnet session and get it logged in so a user can then start interacting with a system? If so, then you essentially have to write your own telnet client/terminal emulator. Not true. Accuterm for example, can launch a script upon opening. That script can log you in. You don't have to write your own telnet ... Will, the OP is on UNIX. If I understand correctly he wants to invoke the telnet session from the UNIX box where UV is running, and have it connect to another host of unknown type, log in and get to a certain point in the app, then transfer control back to the user. I can't see a way to do that with any telnet program I know of that runs on UNIX - they're all pretty dumb. You are right however, that most windows telnet clients/terminal emulators allow session startup to be scripted. If the original user will be connected via a PC, then perhaps the solution is to try and work out how the BASIC app can invoke a new terminal emulation session to another host FROM THE PC. Wintegrate has subroutine calls you can make to get something run on the PC, Accuterm probably does too. Cheers, Ken --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
Bob: I think Stu is trying to run another data entry application via telnet, without the user realizing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Witney Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Stu: I think that you are attempting to so something akin to this; ftp -iv servername EOF cd /account cd ramis_archive cd /account/CRG.VENDOR get filename quit EOF Where the login would be a line in .netrc on your home account i.e machine servername login loginid password passwordone I don't think that you can invoke a telnet session the same way Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: 28 October 2004 19:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2][UV]telnet
I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
I'm not sure you've given enough information. What would the script do? What's it for? I've created scripts that use ssh rather than telnet for automated processes but never telnet. Karl quote who=Stu Glancy I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Karl L. Pearson Director of IT, ATS Industrial Supply Direct: 801-978-4429 Toll-free: 800-789-9300 1,29 Fax: 801-972-3888 http://www.atsindustrial.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
Too simple. How do you pass the user id and password? Lance Jahnke wrote: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
What the script does is not so important just yet. How do you pass the login id and password? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure you've given enough information. What would the script do? What's it for? I've created scripts that use ssh rather than telnet for automated processes but never telnet. Karl quote who=Stu Glancy I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
Try: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver -l myuser EOF ' : char(10):' password ' : char(10): ' EOF' That should pass in the password to the prompt via the input chevron. The EOF signals where the inputs should stop... Andrew Andrew McLaughlin - Business Systems Manager - Shurflo Pump LLC - Pentair Water Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.shurflo.com/ 5900 Katella Ave - Cypress, CA 90630-5009 Main: 562-797-6668 - Cell: 714-270-6727 On Oct 28, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Stu Glancy wrote: Too simple. How do you pass the user id and password? Lance Jahnke wrote: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
I don't think you can. You could use rlogin, which will bypass the user/password, assuming your current user/password exists on the remote system. (Yes I know that rlogin is not secure, so get off the soapbox.) Another option is to use ssh. You can define key-pairs for the local and remote systems, or configure /etc/hosts.equiv to do what you want. Scott Ballinger Pareto Corporation Edmonds WA USA 206-713-6006 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2][UV]telnet Too simple. How do you pass the user id and password? Lance Jahnke wrote: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stu Glancy Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [U2][UV]telnet I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
Many emulators have scripting built-in. You may have to start a session that automatically runs your script. In effect, your execute statement would start the emulator which would run your script to do what you want. This doesn't really seem like a good solution. If you let the list know what you are trying to accomplish you may get some good ideas on other ways to solve your problem. Hth Colin Alfke -Original Message- From: Andrew McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver -l myuser EOF ' : char(10):' password ' : char(10): ' EOF' That should pass in the password to the prompt via the input chevron. The EOF signals where the inputs should stop... Andrew On Oct 28, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Stu Glancy wrote: Too simple. How do you pass the user id and password? Lance Jahnke wrote: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
Stu, If what you have to do is anything but mindlessly simple and you don't mind a bit of a learning curve, then I'd suggest using perl to drive your telnet session. EXECUTE 'SH -c perl mytelnet.pl arg1 arg2 ... argn' from BASIC and write yourself a perl script to drive the telnet session. There is a perl module you can download from CPAN (www.cpan.org) called Net::Telnet which takes care of pretty much everything you might want to do inside the telnet session, and if you vaguely care about the output which come back and it may be some sort of full screen application, then there is another module called Term::VT102 which you can use to grab anything you see on the telnet session and process it to produce clear text and tell you where the cursor is etc. I know this because I'm currently working with it for a different purpose - automating benchmarking and QA scripts, and originally, I thought about using expect, but found that perl was at least as easy as expect/tcl, but far more powerful. Cheers, Ken -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Firl Sent: Friday, 29 October 2004 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet For a variety of reasons (security being a big one), many people think that automating a telnet client isn't a good idea... Karl may be fishing for more information so as to suggest an alternative solution. At any rate, the following has worked all right for simple tasks on an AIX system running Universe: SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' Tom Firl Columbia Ultimate -Original Message- From: Stu Glancy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2][UV]telnet What the script does is not so important just yet. How do you pass the login id and password? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure you've given enough information. What would the script do? What's it for? I've created scripts that use ssh rather than telnet for automated processes but never telnet. Karl quote who=Stu Glancy I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
Didn't work. I tried several times just in case I fat fingered somewhere. Andrew McLaughlin wrote: Try: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver -l myuser EOF ' : char(10):' password ' : char(10): ' EOF' That should pass in the password to the prompt via the input chevron. The EOF signals where the inputs should stop... Andrew Andrew McLaughlin - Business Systems Manager - Shurflo Pump LLC - Pentair Water Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.shurflo.com/ 5900 Katella Ave - Cypress, CA 90630-5009 Main: 562-797-6668 - Cell: 714-270-6727 On Oct 28, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Stu Glancy wrote: Too simple. How do you pass the user id and password? Lance Jahnke wrote: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
Consider using the sockets interface in UniVerse to access the telnet session. Telnet is just another socket device and you have greater control than the execute command. Regards David Jordan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfke, Colin Sent: Friday, 29 October 2004 9:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2][UV]telnet Many emulators have scripting built-in. You may have to start a session that automatically runs your script. In effect, your execute statement would start the emulator which would run your script to do what you want. This doesn't really seem like a good solution. If you let the list know what you are trying to accomplish you may get some good ideas on other ways to solve your problem. Hth Colin Alfke -Original Message- From: Andrew McLaughlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver -l myuser EOF ' : char(10):' password ' : char(10): ' EOF' That should pass in the password to the prompt via the input chevron. The EOF signals where the inputs should stop... Andrew On Oct 28, 2004, at 2:36 PM, Stu Glancy wrote: Too simple. How do you pass the user id and password? Lance Jahnke wrote: CMD='SH -c telnet myserver' EXECUTE CMD END * UniVerse --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2][UV]telnet
This was close. I removed the exit and it sill exited. I'd like to take over manually once I get in. By the way, this example answered a question I've had for a while. I saw automated telnet sessions posting and retrieving cash register transactions with a UniData server running Datatel's school administration software and wondered how it was done. Wrap CAPTURE around this and I have the answer. Tom Firl wrote: For a variety of reasons (security being a big one), many people think that automating a telnet client isn't a good idea... Karl may be fishing for more information so as to suggest an alternative solution. At any rate, the following has worked all right for simple tasks on an AIX system running Universe: SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' Tom Firl Columbia Ultimate -Original Message- From: Stu Glancy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 2:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2][UV]telnet What the script does is not so important just yet. How do you pass the login id and password? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure you've given enough information. What would the script do? What's it for? I've created scripts that use ssh rather than telnet for automated processes but never telnet. Karl quote who=Stu Glancy I want to create a telnet script from a program and execute it. Can it be done? If it can, what would the EXECUTE look like? What would the script look like? I'm looking for concept and a little detail. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2][UV]telnet
Stu Glancy wrote: This was close. I removed the exit and it sill exited. I'd like to take over manually once I get in. What do you mean by 'manually'? Are you just trying to fire up a telnet session and get it logged in so a user can then start interacting with a system? If so, then you essentially have to write your own telnet client/terminal emulator. If the issue is that once you are in there is something complex that needs doing automatically, but first you have to work out what exactly has to be done, then life is a touch easier, but not much. Bottom line is, that with or without the 'exit', once your telnet session sees EOF on its input stream, it is going to terminate. To prevent this you'd have to come up with a way of redirecting your terminal io to the script you've piped into telnet. You could sort of do that with 'cat /dev/tty', but you'll see all sorts of buffering issues, and it won't work when there's no associated terminal. Trying to get around these problems in a shell script will be harder than learning expect or perl ... Tom Firl wrote: At any rate, the following has worked all right for simple tasks on an AIX system running Universe: SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; echo ls -l; sleep 3; echo exit) | telnet hostname' You could try: SH -c '(sleep 1; echo username; sleep 1; echo password; sleep 5; cat /dev/tty) | telnet hostname' But I don't think it'll work as you'd like. Cheers, Ken --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
