Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread George Gallen 
I always setup our printers to be "local" printers to the OS, which handled the 
queueing. As well the OS would then handle the printing.
So to UV it didn't know local from network - I'm not sure if this will be an 
issue, or a benefit.

George

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Subject: Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

We had a lot of network printer issues with Universe version 10 running on AIX 
5.3. When we upgraded to Universe version 11.1.4 (and AIX 6.1) most of the 
printer issues went away. I very rarely need to enable a network printer and 
never need to run the usa command to enable printing.


Jon Card
VP Special Projects
Combined Transport, Inc.
541-618-6565
Fax 541-826-9787

www.combinedtransport.com
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Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread George Gallen 
Currently we don't use uv/net - however, the EDA could pose useful, right now I
Have a workaround using tsql on linux and subroutines that return the data.

Is uv/net still an extra charge on the linux platform? I believe it's included
On the windows platform (at least it was back with 10.0.2).

As well, the data replication may prove useful - we have been using rdiff-backup
In the past - combination of replication and partial backups.


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George - please download and read UNV-16297.  Discretely put, anyone on UV 
below v11.1.14 needs to upgrade to be PCI or SOX compliant, OR, perform 
the mitigation strategies in that bulletin.
If you don't use uv/net however, then this doesn't apply -- just evaluate 
the decision based on benefits.

The main benefits IMHO are:
a) EDA - external database access
b) Data Replication

The zombie processes that Will mentioned in his post are also an issue for 
us.  That was fixed in 11.1.6

Regards,
R. Baker Hughes




From:   George Gallen 
To: U2 Users , 
Date:   02/06/2014 11:25 AM
Subject:    [U2] UV 11 vs 10
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OK. We are kicking around upgrading UV on Linux - from version 10.0.2 to 
the latest version of UV.

The question of what do we get from it (aside from being able to have 
support) to warrant the downtime for migration and
That everything is working fine now attitude.

What have been some features that upgrading has been beneficial for? That 
you couldn't do before?  (universe - not unidata)
I'd prefer to stay with linux, only because we use a lot of linux 
programs for support of our applications, and
   From our experience , has been more stable than a windows platform 
- so a side question would be are there
  Any advantages we might gain by migrating to windows as well?

I'm not just looking for VAR answers, but also end users as well.

Thanks
George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.com<http://www.wyanokegroup.com/>

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Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread Jon Card 
We had a lot of network printer issues with Universe version 10 running on AIX 
5.3. When we upgraded to Universe version 11.1.4 (and AIX 6.1) most of the 
printer issues went away. I very rarely need to enable a network printer and 
never need to run the usa command to enable printing.


Jon Card
VP Special Projects
Combined Transport, Inc.
541-618-6565
Fax 541-826-9787

www.combinedtransport.com
Division of Combined Transport Logistics Group, Inc


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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:37 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

George - please download and read UNV-16297.  Discretely put, anyone on UV 
below v11.1.14 needs to upgrade to be PCI or SOX compliant, OR, perform the 
mitigation strategies in that bulletin.
If you don't use uv/net however, then this doesn't apply -- just evaluate the 
decision based on benefits.

The main benefits IMHO are:
a) EDA - external database access
b) Data Replication

The zombie processes that Will mentioned in his post are also an issue for us.  
That was fixed in 11.1.6

Regards,
R. Baker Hughes




From:   George Gallen 
To: U2 Users , 
Date:   02/06/2014 11:25 AM
Subject:        [U2] UV 11 vs 10
Sent by:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org



OK. We are kicking around upgrading UV on Linux - from version 10.0.2 to the 
latest version of UV.

The question of what do we get from it (aside from being able to have
support) to warrant the downtime for migration and
That everything is working fine now attitude.

What have been some features that upgrading has been beneficial for? That you 
couldn't do before?  (universe - not unidata)
I'd prefer to stay with linux, only because we use a lot of linux programs 
for support of our applications, and
   From our experience , has been more stable than a windows platform
- so a side question would be are there
  Any advantages we might gain by migrating to windows as well?

I'm not just looking for VAR answers, but also end users as well.

Thanks
George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.com<http://www.wyanokegroup.com/>

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Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread Baker_Hughes 
George - please download and read UNV-16297.  Discretely put, anyone on UV 
below v11.1.14 needs to upgrade to be PCI or SOX compliant, OR, perform 
the mitigation strategies in that bulletin.
If you don't use uv/net however, then this doesn't apply -- just evaluate 
the decision based on benefits.

The main benefits IMHO are:
a) EDA - external database access
b) Data Replication

The zombie processes that Will mentioned in his post are also an issue for 
us.  That was fixed in 11.1.6

Regards,
R. Baker Hughes




From:   George Gallen 
To: U2 Users , 
Date:   02/06/2014 11:25 AM
Subject:        [U2] UV 11 vs 10
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OK. We are kicking around upgrading UV on Linux - from version 10.0.2 to 
the latest version of UV.

The question of what do we get from it (aside from being able to have 
support) to warrant the downtime for migration and
That everything is working fine now attitude.

What have been some features that upgrading has been beneficial for? That 
you couldn't do before?  (universe - not unidata)
I'd prefer to stay with linux, only because we use a lot of linux 
programs for support of our applications, and
   From our experience , has been more stable than a windows platform 
- so a side question would be are there
  Any advantages we might gain by migrating to windows as well?

I'm not just looking for VAR answers, but also end users as well.

Thanks
George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.com<http://www.wyanokegroup.com/>

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Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread Wjhonson 

Right, so with us those broken connections disappeared once we upgraded to 11
I don't mean the breaks stopped.
I just mean the running processes got cleaned away, when before they were not 
being so purged.



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From: George Gallen 
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Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:31 am
Subject: Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10


We still get those with linux, especially if the network connection gets broken 
in the middle, that is not
By either end. Sometimes the OS cleans them up, or with phantoms that are 
started by phantoms, until the
Parent phantom ends, the child phantoms don't die. 

Not sure if that is something that has been addressed.

George

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One thing for us, going from 10 to 11, was what happens to the Zombie Processes
Those processes where the user gets *kicked* out and the process is still there 
running in *windoze* (not necessarily in the LISTU)

We used to accumulate dozens of these over the course of a month
Now zero.




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Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread George Gallen 
We still get those with linux, especially if the network connection gets broken 
in the middle, that is not
By either end. Sometimes the OS cleans them up, or with phantoms that are 
started by phantoms, until the
Parent phantom ends, the child phantoms don't die. 

Not sure if that is something that has been addressed.

George

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Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:28 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10


One thing for us, going from 10 to 11, was what happens to the Zombie Processes
Those processes where the user gets *kicked* out and the process is still there 
running in *windoze* (not necessarily in the LISTU)

We used to accumulate dozens of these over the course of a month
Now zero.




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Re: [U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread Wjhonson 

One thing for us, going from 10 to 11, was what happens to the Zombie Processes
Those processes where the user gets *kicked* out and the process is still there 
running in *windoze* (not necessarily in the LISTU)

We used to accumulate dozens of these over the course of a month
Now zero.



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From: George Gallen 
To: U2 Users 
Sent: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 9:25 am
Subject: [U2] UV 11 vs 10


OK. We are kicking around upgrading UV on Linux - from version 10.0.2 to the 
latest version of UV.

The question of what do we get from it (aside from being able to have support) 
to warrant the downtime for migration and
That everything is working fine now attitude.

What have been some features that upgrading has been beneficial for? That you 
couldn't do before?  (universe - not unidata)
I'd prefer to stay with linux, only because we use a lot of linux programs 
for support of our applications, and
   From our experience , has been more stable than a windows platform - so 
a 
side question would be are there
  Any advantages we might gain by migrating to windows as well?

I'm not just looking for VAR answers, but also end users as well.

Thanks
George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
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[U2] UV 11 vs 10

2014-02-06 Thread George Gallen 
OK. We are kicking around upgrading UV on Linux - from version 10.0.2 to the 
latest version of UV.

The question of what do we get from it (aside from being able to have support) 
to warrant the downtime for migration and
That everything is working fine now attitude.

What have been some features that upgrading has been beneficial for? That you 
couldn't do before?  (universe - not unidata)
I'd prefer to stay with linux, only because we use a lot of linux programs 
for support of our applications, and
   From our experience , has been more stable than a windows platform - so 
a side question would be are there
  Any advantages we might gain by migrating to windows as well?

I'm not just looking for VAR answers, but also end users as well.

Thanks
George Gallen
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Accounting/Data Division, EDI Administrator
ggal...@wyanokegroup.com
ph:856.848.9005 Ext 220
The Wyanoke Group
http://www.wyanokegroup.com

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