RE: [U2] UV Funny
Another Win-U2 oddities, ED/AE won't complain if you create a record with '*' or any other illegal DOS filename characters, but if it's in a Type 1, 19 or DIR type file, you'll never be able to access the record again. I disagree with this. We save many records where our keys have '*' in them across all types of file including 1 19 . I can access them any time going 'ED FILENAME SOMETHING*SOMETHINGELSE', at Windows level, the record is save as 'SOMETHING%ASOMETHINGELSE' Regards Bjorn --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV Funny
At 08:24 +0200 2005/09/16, Bjorn Behr wrote: Another Win-U2 oddities, ED/AE won't complain if you create a record with '*' or any other illegal DOS filename characters, but if it's in a Type 1, 19 or DIR type file, you'll never be able to access the record again. I disagree with this. We save many records where our keys have '*' in them across all types of file including 1 19 . I can access them any time going 'ED FILENAME SOMETHING*SOMETHINGELSE', at Windows level, the record is save as 'SOMETHING%ASOMETHINGELSE' Sounds like it's been fixed in a more recent version of uvNT than the last time I ran into this. I'll have to give it a test the next time I'm one a box with the most recent version of udNT. I don't think I have access to any uvNT boxes. I think they've all migrated to some *nix. Ray -- .=. | =-=-=-=-=-=-= Eagle Rock Information Systems Corp =-=-=-=-=-=-= | | -=-=-=-=-=-=- web and database business solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=- | | http://www.eriscorp.commailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Midwest Regional Office: 815-547-0662 (voice) 815-547-0353 (Fax)| .=. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV Funny
At 14:08 -0700 2005/09/15, Keith W. Roberts wrote: Well, if they were written, then they must be accessible by *some* name, I would think. They'd show with the proper name with LIST/SORT. They just coudn't be READ or edited with ED/AE I've had success accessing garbled IDs by doing a wildcard SELECT which includes them, then ED FILENAME, then when you get to it SAVE A.BETTER.NAME and FD. :) I don't remember this working. I remember deleting them at the DOS level and then adjusting the code to use -'s. Ray -- .=. | =-=-=-=-=-=-= Eagle Rock Information Systems Corp =-=-=-=-=-=-= | | -=-=-=-=-=-=- web and database business solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=- | | http://www.eriscorp.commailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Midwest Regional Office: 815-547-0662 (voice) 815-547-0353 (Fax)| .=. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV Funny
Look in the uv account at BP ED.B. Around line 270 it has: * E2835 UPCASE if casing is insensitive IF ECFLAG THEN SENT = UPCASE(SENT) It is one of a number of bugs regarding sentence casing I've found.. Try using the DELETE command on an item in a lower case file name. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Behr Sent: 15 September 2005 15:41 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV Funny System: Windows 2003 Server UniVerse: 10.1.3 I don't know if this is normal, if it is - can someone please explain why. I edited a TYPE 18 FILE WITH 'ed FILENAME record_name' and when I saved it, it changed the name to uppercase. I then typed in 'ED FILENAME record_name' and it opened a new record, but when I went 'ED FILENAME RECORD_NAME' it was there. Any idea why when I typed in ed in lowercase, it uppercased the record? __ __ Regards Bjvrn Behr Programmer HYFLO Southern Africa (Pty) Ltd Tel : +27 11 386 5800 Fax : +27 11 444 5391 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : http://www.hyflo.co.za __ __ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV Funny
What's the account type? I just did a test in a PICK type account and did not see the same situation as you. It did not matter what the case was for both ed and record_name. FILENAME, on the other hand, did have to be uppercase. Win2k3 and UV 10.1.11. BobW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjorn Behr Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:41 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] UV Funny System: Windows 2003 Server UniVerse: 10.1.3 I don't know if this is normal, if it is - can someone please explain why. I edited a TYPE 18 FILE WITH 'ed FILENAME record_name' and when I saved it, it changed the name to uppercase. I then typed in 'ED FILENAME record_name' and it opened a new record, but when I went 'ED FILENAME RECORD_NAME' it was there. Any idea why when I typed in ed in lowercase, it uppercased the record? Regards Bjvrn Behr Programmer HYFLO Southern Africa (Pty) Ltd Tel : +27 11 386 5800 Fax : +27 11 444 5391 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : http://www.hyflo.co.za --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] UV Funny
At 16:40 +0200 2005/09/15, Bjorn Behr wrote: System: Windows 2003 Server UniVerse: 10.1.3 I don't know if this is normal, if it is - can someone please explain why. It is unfortunately normal. I edited a TYPE 18 FILE WITH 'ed FILENAME record_name' and when I saved it, it changed the name to uppercase. Windows/DOS is case insensitive, non-case preserving. Where as most Unix sytems are case sensitive, case preserving. The one exception I know of is Apple's OS X, which is alway case preserving, but if you save the file on a UFD partition, you'll get case sensitivity, but if you save the file on a HFS+ (the default partition type) partition, it will be case insensitive. I then typed in 'ED FILENAME record_name' and it opened a new record, but when I went 'ED FILENAME RECORD_NAME' it was there. Any idea why when I typed in ed in lowercase, it uppercased the record? It looks like the record ID is converted on the save, so the lowercase record doesn't exist. Another Win-U2 oddities, ED/AE won't complain if you create a record with '*' or any other illegal DOS filename characters, but if it's in a Type 1, 19 or DIR type file, you'll never be able to access the record again. Ray -- .=. | =-=-=-=-=-=-= Eagle Rock Information Systems Corp =-=-=-=-=-=-= | | -=-=-=-=-=-=- web and database business solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=- | | http://www.eriscorp.commailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |Midwest Regional Office: 815-547-0662 (voice) 815-547-0353 (Fax)| .=. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV Funny
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond DeGennaro II Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:41 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: Bjorn Behr Subject: Re: [U2] UV Funny At 16:40 +0200 2005/09/15, Bjorn Behr wrote: System: Windows 2003 Server UniVerse: 10.1.3 [snip] Another Win-U2 oddities, ED/AE won't complain if you create a record with '*' or any other illegal DOS filename characters, but if it's in a Type 1, 19 or DIR type file, you'll never be able to access the record again. Ray Well, if they were written, then they must be accessible by *some* name, I would think. I've had success accessing garbled IDs by doing a wildcard SELECT which includes them, then ED FILENAME, then when you get to it SAVE A.BETTER.NAME and FD. :) -Keith --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] UV Funny
If your records have value marks or sub-value marks in the ID's you may not be able to look at them with the editor (AE). If you can select the records, try reading them in a basic program - if you can read them then you probably can delete them in the program too. One last thought, before I go, if you cannot access those records and don't need them, how about creating a temporary file, selecting the good records and copying them to the temporary file, now clear the file and copy the records from the temporary file back into the good file. Note, I can remember a software problem back in the 1980's where some records would be written to a file with a value mark in the ID's. Seems to me I was able to remove them but can't remember if I was able to use a basic program or if I had to remove them from the frames using the system debugger. The customer would have been running the old PICK O/S on ADDS, Microdata, Genecom, or one of the other systems DataWorks used to sell - in those days you had 'easy' access to the data stored in the frames... I sure fixed a lot of GFE's. Have a Great Day! Paul Trebbien Kore Technologies, Senior Support Tech. Solutions that work. People who care. V 858.678.0030 F 858.300.2600 W koretech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith W. Roberts Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 2:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: 'Bjorn Behr' Subject: RE: [U2] UV Funny -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond DeGennaro II Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 9:41 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: Bjorn Behr Subject: Re: [U2] UV Funny At 16:40 +0200 2005/09/15, Bjorn Behr wrote: System: Windows 2003 Server UniVerse: 10.1.3 [snip] Another Win-U2 oddities, ED/AE won't complain if you create a record with '*' or any other illegal DOS filename characters, but if it's in a Type 1, 19 or DIR type file, you'll never be able to access the record again. Ray Well, if they were written, then they must be accessible by *some* name, I would think. I've had success accessing garbled IDs by doing a wildcard SELECT which includes them, then ED FILENAME, then when you get to it SAVE A.BETTER.NAME and FD. :) -Keith --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
