Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. Doug Chanco wrote: I downloaded the library set from there already (but thanks) its just that most of the admin sections deal with using uniadmin (see below for an example) Administering UniVerse Files To administer UniVerse files, choose File Tool from the UniAdmin menu. The File Tool window appears, as shown in the following example: The tasks you can perform from this window include: t Listing all files in all UniVerse accounts t Listing file properties and statistics t Running file diagnostics t Repairing damaged files What if I donbt have or donbt want to use uniadmin, so far I have not been able to find anything that covers the same topics WIHTOUT using uniadmin Dougc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KathleenC) M Hunter Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image002.gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA IT Wrangler and Database Thaumaturgist jeff at schasny dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
It may be evil and ugly but there have been times when I couldn't get through to use the uniadmin (unirpc was down, you can start it from the motif menu and for obvious reasons you can't from uniadmin) so it's been a blessing. Jerry Banker Sr Programmer Analyst Affiliated Acceptance Corp Sunrise Beach, MO 1-800-233-8483 www.affiliated.org -Original Message- From: Jeff Schasny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. Doug Chanco wrote: I downloaded the library set from there already (but thanks) its just that most of the admin sections deal with using uniadmin (see below for an example) Administering UniVerse Files To administer UniVerse files, choose File Tool from the UniAdmin menu. The File Tool window appears, as shown in the following example: The tasks you can perform from this window include: t Listing all files in all UniVerse accounts t Listing file properties and statistics t Running file diagnostics t Repairing damaged files What if I donbt have or donbt want to use uniadmin, so far I have not been able to find anything that covers the same topics WIHTOUT using uniadmin Dougc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KathleenC) M Hunter Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image002.gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA IT Wrangler and Database Thaumaturgist jeff at schasny dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
Susan: You can set up UniAdmin to manage any server from your client machine. They just need to open, and route, port 31438 (or whatever) to the U2 server. I do this with all the servers I manage and don't need remote desktop access. I'm not sure what minimum permissions are required to perform the dbms administration though as I'm normally connecting as an administrator. But then, the dbms server is normally a separate machine so security isn't compromised. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:24 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? Jeff, I don't know why Doug does not want to, but on UniData sites that I support, I usually only have SB Client access, not Remote Desktop to the server, so I need command line tools. UniAdmin is very nice, when you have access. But there are times when you need an alternative. Susan Lynch F. W. Davison Company, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jeff Schasny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. --- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
I think the point Doug was making regarding ibm docs is that they don't contain all the little tidbits of knowledge that most of the old timers have gleaned throughout the years. For example, the port.status hex address thingy and what it denotes. Toward that end, I want to encourage anyone and everyone who has this knowledge share it with the rest of us on PickWiki.com and/or u2ugWiki.com. I think Doug's frustration that the IBM administration docs typically focus on uniadmin, not so much on the details of port.status and similar utilities. I share that frustration too. rex --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
Well I suppose because I hate to point and click solutions without really understanding what's going on. The old motif stuff is still there at least in universe 10.1 I just like to know what going on 'under the covers' Dougc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Schasny Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. Doug Chanco wrote: I downloaded the library set from there already (but thanks) its just that most of the admin sections deal with using uniadmin (see below for an example) Administering UniVerse Files To administer UniVerse files, choose File Tool from the UniAdmin menu. The File Tool window appears, as shown in the following example: The tasks you can perform from this window include: t Listing all files in all UniVerse accounts t Listing file properties and statistics t Running file diagnostics t Repairing damaged files What if I donbt have or donbt want to use uniadmin, so far I have not been able to find anything that covers the same topics WIHTOUT using uniadmin Dougc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KathleenC) M Hunter Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image002.gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Jeff Schasny - Denver, Co, USA IT Wrangler and Database Thaumaturgist jeff at schasny dot com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by SecureMail, and is believed to be clean. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
We've never been able to use the fixtool with uniadmin (universe 10.2/windows2003). We get Unable to access file: no matter which file - then we have to break out as the 'OK' button never goes away. Nancy Fisher Peninsula Truck Lines, Inc Auburn, Washington 253/929-2040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Jeff Schasny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:42 AM Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
Check out the UniVerse System Description from that collection you downloaded. I found it (and this list) to be the most informative for more information about the actual database files. I admit that it isn't completely explanatory though and created some new questions for me. Kevin Smith -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Chanco Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:48 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I downloaded the library set from there already (but thanks) its just that most of the admin sections deal with using uniadmin (see below for an example) Administering UniVerse Files To administer UniVerse files, choose File Tool from the UniAdmin menu. The File Tool window appears, as shown in the following example: The tasks you can perform from this window include: t Listing all files in all UniVerse accounts t Listing file properties and statistics t Running file diagnostics t Repairing damaged files What if I donbt have or donbt want to use uniadmin, so far I have not been able to find anything that covers the same topics WIHTOUT using uniadmin Dougc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KathleenC) M Hunter Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/library/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of image002.gif] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
Bill, usually we do not load UniAdmin on client machines - only on the servers. But I will remember that if I ever need a feature that is only accessible via UniAdmin. My preference is to just shell out to a command prompt and type in the commands rather than making the client make another port accessible - I don't need pretty graphics, just information. I am not averse to SMIT or UniAdmin or any other nice tools, but I don't see why anyone would necessarily force their use rather than document the commands in addition to providing the pretty interface. Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: Bill Haskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? Susan: You can set up UniAdmin to manage any server from your client machine. They just need to open, and route, port 31438 (or whatever) to the U2 server. I do this with all the servers I manage and don't need remote desktop access. I'm not sure what minimum permissions are required to perform the dbms administration though as I'm normally connecting as an administrator. But then, the dbms server is normally a separate machine so security isn't compromised. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:24 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? Jeff, I don't know why Doug does not want to, but on UniData sites that I support, I usually only have SB Client access, not Remote Desktop to the server, so I need command line tools. UniAdmin is very nice, when you have access. But there are times when you need an alternative. Susan Lynch F. W. Davison Company, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jeff Schasny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. --- --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
Jeff, I don't know why Doug does not want to, but on UniData sites that I support, I usually only have SB Client access, not Remote Desktop to the server, so I need command line tools. UniAdmin is very nice, when you have access. But there are times when you need an alternative. Susan Lynch F. W. Davison Company, Inc. - Original Message - From: Jeff Schasny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? I don't understand. Why don't you just use Uniadmin? I not sure if the old motif (Agh) stuff even exists any more. Besides it was pretty much evil and ugly anyway. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ?
Susan: I'm not debating your point. I've found the software I use these days creates all kinds of new connections all over the place. Often, we find a lot of software piggybacks connections over HTTP, which require plug-ins (citrix, etc). So, I'm looking to minimize my use of software rather than trying to see what's happening under the covers. I don't care anymore. What I like about UniAdmin is it works on Unix or Windows, so the same tool can administer both U2 products from anywhere I have my machine. So, I install on one machine and access multiple servers. Anyway, my priorities are to reduce exposing myself to even more software that only works 95% of the time. :-) Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Lynch Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:19 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? Bill, usually we do not load UniAdmin on client machines - only on the servers. But I will remember that if I ever need a feature that is only accessible via UniAdmin. My preference is to just shell out to a command prompt and type in the commands rather than making the client make another port accessible - I don't need pretty graphics, just information. I am not averse to SMIT or UniAdmin or any other nice tools, but I don't see why anyone would necessarily force their use rather than document the commands in addition to providing the pretty interface. Susan Lynch - Original Message - From: Bill Haskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: RE: IBM DOCS was: RE: [U2] sigh phantom ? Susan: You can set up UniAdmin to manage any server from your client machine. They just need to open, and route, port 31438 (or whatever) to the U2 server. I do this with all the servers I manage and don't need remote desktop access. I'm not sure what minimum permissions are required to perform the dbms administration though as I'm normally connecting as an administrator. But then, the dbms server is normally a separate machine so security isn't compromised. Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
