Re: [U2] Licensing
I think that is correct -- you have to 'buy' device licensing additionally if you have 'Server' licenses. In that case, you can 'pick' how many device seats you want to add on per IP address - 10 is not the only answer - we have sites with 3 or 5 since it was an 'add on' cost against the Server license. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:44 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I thought Enterprise licences included device licences, Server didn't ...? Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 2:34 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing As I understand, some of it depends on whether you have WorkGroup, Server, or Enterprise. You can have X count of device licenses allowed per IP address, with 10 I think being the maximum (10 is the 'standard count' for WorkGroup level licenses as well I think - it's 'built in' to WorkGroup licenses.) For server you 'choose' you Device License 'count'. And your example is correct - only thing to note is that if one machine has 12 connections and you have '10' as you Device License count, I think you'd end up being dinged 3 seats (1 for the first 10, then 1 for every seat used past 10). That's why if you are 'choosing' your device license count (as you would on the server licensing) you want to choose wisely! DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Marcos Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained
Re: [U2] Licensing
I think that is correct -- you have to 'buy' device licensing additionally if you have 'Server' licenses. In that case, you can 'pick' how many device seats you want to add on per IP address - 10 is not the only answer - we have sites with 3 or 5 since it was an 'add on' cost against the Server license. If you have say 100 licenses, can you buy 10 device licenses and assign them to particular users? Or is it necessary to buy 100 licenses? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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No - device licenses are across ALL seats -- hence the reason our server customer chose fewer than 10! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 8:36 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think that is correct -- you have to 'buy' device licensing additionally if you have 'Server' licenses. In that case, you can 'pick' how many device seats you want to add on per IP address - 10 is not the only answer - we have sites with 3 or 5 since it was an 'add on' cost against the Server license. If you have say 100 licenses, can you buy 10 device licenses and assign them to particular users? Or is it necessary to buy 100 licenses? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
No - device licenses are across ALL seats -- hence the reason our server customer chose fewer than 10! So for example, if you have a few users that use several sessions then it would be more cost effective to buy for example 3 seats. Most users would only use 1, but the power users would use maybe 2 licensesfor 6 separate sessions. You have to balance wasted sessions against the users who would use multiple licenses. Thanks. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
But that device license limit is PER SESSION... So you buy 3. Power user uses 4 -- Power user eats TWO real licenses. One for the '3' device licensed, then one for each thereafter. Even if every other user is just using one seat. SO -- if you had 300 seats, and only 2 or 3 users needed 2 or 3 sessions, it may be CHEAPER to just buy more seats on a server license than to waste device licensing on all... It's all math! BUT -- where we installed it, it seems that most users immediately used them -- they ALL needed (wanted?) more connections, but were locked out. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:20 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing No - device licenses are across ALL seats -- hence the reason our server customer chose fewer than 10! So for example, if you have a few users that use several sessions then it would be more cost effective to buy for example 3 seats. Most users would only use 1, but the power users would use maybe 2 licensesfor 6 separate sessions. You have to balance wasted sessions against the users who would use multiple licenses. Thanks. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
But that device license limit is PER SESSION... So you buy 3. Power user uses 4 -- Power user eats TWO real licenses. One for the '3' device licensed, then one for each thereafter. Even if every other user is just using one seat. SO -- if you had 300 seats, and only 2 or 3 users needed 2 or 3 sessions, it may be CHEAPER to just buy more seats on a server license than to waste device licensing on all... It's all math! BUT -- where we installed it, it seems that most users immediately used them -- they ALL needed (wanted?) more connections, but were locked out. DW I guess I am a little unsure of the terminology. In terms of the licensing agreement, what is a SESSION? Is it the same as a login? Assuming device licenses with a limit of 3 connections, can you login twice and get all 6 connections? Or is it based on the IP address and 6 sessions will use 4 licenses? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Based on the IP -- so 6 connections (Sessions) from a single IP that is 3-device licensed will indeed use 4 'licenses' (seats) - 1 for the first 3, then one for each over 3. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 9:50 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing But that device license limit is PER SESSION... So you buy 3. Power user uses 4 -- Power user eats TWO real licenses. One for the '3' device licensed, then one for each thereafter. Even if every other user is just using one seat. SO -- if you had 300 seats, and only 2 or 3 users needed 2 or 3 sessions, it may be CHEAPER to just buy more seats on a server license than to waste device licensing on all... It's all math! BUT -- where we installed it, it seems that most users immediately used them -- they ALL needed (wanted?) more connections, but were locked out. DW I guess I am a little unsure of the terminology. In terms of the licensing agreement, what is a SESSION? Is it the same as a login? Assuming device licenses with a limit of 3 connections, can you login twice and get all 6 connections? Or is it based on the IP address and 6 sessions will use 4 licenses? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
A session is a open telnet / uniobjects session. OPEN is the key word (as in active open in use) :-) It's just like you have now, but a single MAC / IP address is allowed multiple sessions up to X to combine into 1 license. I think Enterprise edition already has the 10 device. It would be nice for Rocket to chime in here, and clarify in black and white... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 10:50 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing But that device license limit is PER SESSION... So you buy 3. Power user uses 4 -- Power user eats TWO real licenses. One for the '3' device licensed, then one for each thereafter. Even if every other user is just using one seat. SO -- if you had 300 seats, and only 2 or 3 users needed 2 or 3 sessions, it may be CHEAPER to just buy more seats on a server license than to waste device licensing on all... It's all math! BUT -- where we installed it, it seems that most users immediately used them -- they ALL needed (wanted?) more connections, but were locked out. DW I guess I am a little unsure of the terminology. In terms of the licensing agreement, what is a SESSION? Is it the same as a login? Assuming device licenses with a limit of 3 connections, can you login twice and get all 6 connections? Or is it based on the IP address and 6 sessions will use 4 licenses? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
A session is a open telnet / uniobjects session. OPEN is the key word (as in active open in use) :-) It's just like you have now, but a single MAC / IP address is allowed multiple sessions up to X to combine into 1 license. I think Enterprise edition already has the 10 device. It would be nice for Rocket to chime in here, and clarify in black and white... I agree. It seems like a small point, but it could affect cost substantially. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
NOTE that WorkGroup and Enterprise have DeviceLicensing BAKED IN -- but that you can AUTHORIZE these (at least on UniData) with ZERO Device Licenses, and it will do so, with a tiny message at the bottom of the screen that you are 'authorizing below your limits' -- we had sites that never had DeviceLicensing 'on' even though they were 'licensed' to use it for this reason! Just an FYI -- something I asked IBM (this was a long time ago!) to make more 'bold' in the auth process (haven't had reason to test/review if they ever made a change there!) DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 11:23 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing A session is a open telnet / uniobjects session. OPEN is the key word (as in active open in use) :-) It's just like you have now, but a single MAC / IP address is allowed multiple sessions up to X to combine into 1 license. I think Enterprise edition already has the 10 device. It would be nice for Rocket to chime in here, and clarify in black and white... I agree. It seems like a small point, but it could affect cost substantially. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Are they all real users? We have times on UV / Unix where a uv process goes zombie and doesn't release the seat. After we manually kill of the zombie process, the seat opens back up. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:21 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Are they all real users? We have times on UV / Unix where a uv process goes zombie and doesn't release the seat. After we manually kill of the zombie process, the seat opens back up. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:08 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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There has been a lot of discussion about that. If there is a way to take advantage of device licenses or connection pooling, we would like to take a look at that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Our users are accessing UniData through a VB-based GUI interface and it appears that it is using a license per session. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:31 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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You will find connection pooling much faster for your web connections. I presume they are using uniobjects (.net or java). IF they are not pooled, each connection has to login, do its work, and logout. Pools are ideal if your web transactions are in and out pretty quick. If your web connections come in and stay in for a while then you had best stick with non pooled. The idea of a pooled connection is that a smaller number of connections stay logged in and can then handle lots of web transactions coming in and out. Device licensing means you can have up to ten connections from one ip using a single licence. This is meant for a single PC user who may have a telnet client and a .net client using uniobjects open at the same time, in reality they are just one user so should not be taking multiple licences. However non pooled uniobjects connections from a web server will also use device licensing so the first 10 connections will use 1 licence and any subsequent ones take a full licence each. Whether this is in the spirit of device licensing i am not sure... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: 21 October 2010 20:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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That's where the device licensing comes in - but it will only work on products that are device licensing enabled, such as Accuterm and apparently Anzio mentioned below. I'm not sure what other products it will work with. -Dianne On 10/21/2010 3:36 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Our users are accessing UniData through a VB-based GUI interface and it appears that it is using a license per session. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Bob Rasmussenr...@anzio.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:31 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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There is a dll such products can use to do device licencing - it is also built into uniobjects, so his VB app may have it anyway. However it has to be switched on and licenced at ud/uv as well. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: 21 October 2010 20:51 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing That's where the device licensing comes in - but it will only work on products that are device licensing enabled, such as Accuterm and apparently Anzio mentioned below. I'm not sure what other products it will work with. -Dianne On 10/21/2010 3:36 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Our users are accessing UniData through a VB-based GUI interface and it appears that it is using a license per session. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Bob Rasmussenr...@anzio.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:31 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users Listu2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Symeon, Good advice. Right now most of our usage is from users who are logging in to multiple sessions from one IP. Sounds like device licensing would work for that. Our web access is completely quick in and outs. Right now it is less of our usage than the user logins, although it is growing. Sounds like connection pooling is something we should look at down the road. Thanks everyone. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:51 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing You will find connection pooling much faster for your web connections. I presume they are using uniobjects (.net or java). IF they are not pooled, each connection has to login, do its work, and logout. Pools are ideal if your web transactions are in and out pretty quick. If your web connections come in and stay in for a while then you had best stick with non pooled. The idea of a pooled connection is that a smaller number of connections stay logged in and can then handle lots of web transactions coming in and out. Device licensing means you can have up to ten connections from one ip using a single licence. This is meant for a single PC user who may have a telnet client and a .net client using uniobjects open at the same time, in reality they are just one user so should not be taking multiple licences. However non pooled uniobjects connections from a web server will also use device licensing so the first 10 connections will use 1 licence and any subsequent ones take a full licence each. Whether this is in the spirit of device licensing i am not sure... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: 21 October 2010 20:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I like to use a small script in the .profile of *ix to limit the number of simultaneous logins to say 3 Roy -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:00 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: 'U2 Users List'; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Symeon, Good advice. Right now most of our usage is from users who are logging in to multiple sessions from one IP. Sounds like device licensing would work for that. Our web access is completely quick in and outs. Right now it is less of our usage than the user logins, although it is growing. Sounds like connection pooling is something we should look at down the road. Thanks everyone. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:51 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing You will find connection pooling much faster for your web connections. I presume they are using uniobjects (.net or java). IF they are not pooled, each connection has to login, do its work, and logout. Pools are ideal if your web transactions are in and out pretty quick. If your web connections come in and stay in for a while then you had best stick with non pooled. The idea of a pooled connection is that a smaller number of connections stay logged in and can then handle lots of web transactions coming in and out. Device licensing means you can have up to ten connections from one ip using a single licence. This is meant for a single PC user who may have a telnet client and a .net client using uniobjects open at the same time, in reality they are just one user so should not be taking multiple licences. However non pooled uniobjects connections from a web server will also use device licensing so the first 10 connections will use 1 licence and any subsequent ones take a full licence each. Whether this is in the spirit of device licensing i am not sure... From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: 21 October 2010 20:08 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Hello, We have always used only RDBMS licenses and have always had plenty of seats. Recently we are hitting our limit. We also access our Unidata dabases from web apps. I am hoping for some advise on connection pooling and device licensing as a way to allow more sessions without more licenses. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1136 / Virus Database: 422/3210 - Release Date: 10/21/10 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
I like to use a small script in the .profile of *ix to limit the number of simultaneous logins to say 3 Roy The users feel they have a legitimate need for having quick access to all of the screens. I'm not sure if they do, but I've never done their jobs so I hesitate to argue with them. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Could you convert the licenses, or did you have to rebuy them? We changed from standard licensing to device licensing because of the fact that many of our users have multiple sessions open of the same IP. It has helped tremendously. We use to run out of licenses on a regular basis with only 75 users on a 117 license system. Now we have kept the same number of licenses except they are device licenses and we hardly ever run out. The only time that we have is when we had too many objects left as zombies and it was a heavy day for the web. Just as an aside we use Accuterm which has a configuration selection for device licensing. Jerry Banker Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email and any attached files. Corporate Express advises that this email and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. Corporate Express accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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As I understand, some of it depends on whether you have WorkGroup, Server, or Enterprise. You can have X count of device licenses allowed per IP address, with 10 I think being the maximum (10 is the 'standard count' for WorkGroup level licenses as well I think - it's 'built in' to WorkGroup licenses.) For server you 'choose' you Device License 'count'. And your example is correct - only thing to note is that if one machine has 12 connections and you have '10' as you Device License count, I think you'd end up being dinged 3 seats (1 for the first 10, then 1 for every seat used past 10). That's why if you are 'choosing' your device license count (as you would on the server licensing) you want to choose wisely! DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Marcos Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email and any attached files. Corporate Express advises that this email and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. Corporate Express accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Would depend on the TYPE of licences you have as to wether device licencing would work for you I believe Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:34 AM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing There has been a lot of discussion about that. If there is a way to take advantage of device licenses or connection pooling, we would like to take a look at that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn- bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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I thought Enterprise licences included device licences, Server didn't ...? Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 2:34 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing As I understand, some of it depends on whether you have WorkGroup, Server, or Enterprise. You can have X count of device licenses allowed per IP address, with 10 I think being the maximum (10 is the 'standard count' for WorkGroup level licenses as well I think - it's 'built in' to WorkGroup licenses.) For server you 'choose' you Device License 'count'. And your example is correct - only thing to note is that if one machine has 12 connections and you have '10' as you Device License count, I think you'd end up being dinged 3 seats (1 for the first 10, then 1 for every seat used past 10). That's why if you are 'choosing' your device license count (as you would on the server licensing) you want to choose wisely! DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Marcos Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:22 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Not sure if I read DW's message correctly, but we have device licensing here and it works as follows; 1 device license means from 1 IP/device you can login to a maximum 10 uv sessions (thus only using 1 license) So 10 device licenses (10 individual IP's) equates to maximum number of 100 sessions . And can you mix your licenses on one machine?? Regards, Jeff Marcos -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:38 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing You have to BUY device licensing for this to be true... If you device license 3 devices - and connect 4 sessions from one IP, you will end up using TWO seats - one for the first 3 sessions, and then 1 for every session thereafter. DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bob Rasmussen Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 2:32 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Note that (unless something changed recently) your licensing actually is based on number of users, not sessions. If you have a terminal emulator that can handle this, properly configured, one user on one machine with 5 open sessions will consume only one license. Our Anzio emulators can do this. Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users The information contained in this email and any attached files are strictly private and confidential. This email should be read by the intended addressee only. If the recipient of this message is not the intended addressee, please call Corporate Express Australia Limited on +61 2 9335 0555 or Corporate Express New Zealand Limited on +64 9 271 7600 and promptly delete this email and any attachments. The intended recipient of this email may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this email and any attached files with Corporate Express' permission. If you are not the intended addressee, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email and any attached files. Corporate Express advises that this email and any attached files should be scanned to detect viruses. Corporate Express accepts no liability for loss or damage (whether caused by negligence or not) resulting from the use of any attached files. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http
Re: [U2] Licensing
On UniVerse (10.2 onwards), the uvregen command will tell you if device licensing is active, and the max connections per device. SH $cd `cat /.uvhome` $uvregen -z UniVerse Ver.: 10.2.4 Serial#..: 99887766 Expiry Date..: 1/1/2500 Max Logins...: 162 Device Licn..: Enabled Conn per Dev.: 10 Authorized...: Yes UV master key: SYSTEMICMEZMERISM Package NameUser Limit Expiry Date -UVNET 0 uv -GCI162 1/1/2500 -UCI162 1/1/2500 -UVCS 162 1/1/2500 -UVADM 162 1/1/2500 -UVODBC 162 1/1/2500 -iPHANTOM 162 1/1/2500 -CONNPL 2 1/1/2500 You might need to be root user to run this command, as it relies on the user's access to the .uvconfig file I nthe UniVerse installation directory. The Device Licn setting indicates that it is active. The Conn per Dev setting indicates how many connections from one device will consume 1 database license. NOTE: Each and every connection above this setting from the same device will consume an additional license. With the above setting, an device that established 12 connections will use 3 database licenses. Gregor -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ross Ferris Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 2:39 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing Would depend on the TYPE of licences you have as to wether device licencing would work for you I believe Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com Sent: Friday, 22 October 2010 6:34 AM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing There has been a lot of discussion about that. If there is a way to take advantage of device licenses or connection pooling, we would like to take a look at that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com Sent by: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 10/21/2010 02:28 PM Please respond to U2 Users List To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org cc: Subject:Re: [U2] Licensing Shorten the autologout limit? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of charles_shaf...@ntn- bower.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:28 PM To: U2 Users List Cc: U2 Users List; u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Licensing I think there is some of that, but for the most part they are real. Some folks like to keep 4 or 5 sessions open at a time instead of moving around between screens. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1AWMsrgsiI/5ghGrz6Xtf89aqmIKuCadR/0 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Licensing
We converted them. Jerry On 10/21/2010 4:03 PM, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote: Could you convert the licenses, or did you have to rebuy them? We changed from standard licensing to device licensing because of the fact that many of our users have multiple sessions open of the same IP. It has helped tremendously. We use to run out of licenses on a regular basis with only 75 users on a 117 license system. Now we have kept the same number of licenses except they are device licenses and we hardly ever run out. The only time that we have is when we had too many objects left as zombies and it was a heavy day for the web. Just as an aside we use Accuterm which has a configuration selection for device licensing. Jerry Banker Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [U2] Licensing Question
You wouldn't happen to have a link to the second part, would ya? Clicking on the link yields Our apologies, The IBM developerWorks Web site is currently under maintenance. Please try again later. (It's one of the reasons that going to the IBM web site is a last resort for me...) But I'd like to see the 2nd part. Thx, -- Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:55 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Licensing Question And you'll want to read the DeveloperWorks article on just this topic to boot... http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0612xia/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Question I am looking into developing a PHP driver for Unidata using Intercall. In the InterCall Developer's Guide when it refers to the Intercall libraries, it states --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Licensing Question
I just clicked the link and went right in... H... I found it by Google-ing UniData PHP as well ... You can likely find it that way as well if this link does not work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Walker Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:49 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Licensing Question You wouldn't happen to have a link to the second part, would ya? Clicking on the link yields Our apologies, The IBM developerWorks Web site is currently under maintenance. Please try again later. (It's one of the reasons that going to the IBM web site is a last resort for me...) But I'd like to see the 2nd part. Thx, -- Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:55 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Licensing Question And you'll want to read the DeveloperWorks article on just this topic to boot... http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0612xia/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Question I am looking into developing a PHP driver for Unidata using Intercall. In the InterCall Developer's Guide when it refers to the Intercall libraries, it states --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Licensing Question
Googling worked. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 9:36 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Licensing Question I just clicked the link and went right in... H... I found it by Google-ing UniData PHP as well ... You can likely find it that way as well if this link does not work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Walker Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 7:49 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Licensing Question You wouldn't happen to have a link to the second part, would ya? Clicking on the link yields Our apologies, The IBM developerWorks Web site is currently under maintenance. Please try again later. (It's one of the reasons that going to the IBM web site is a last resort for me...) But I'd like to see the 2nd part. Thx, -- Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 5:55 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Licensing Question And you'll want to read the DeveloperWorks article on just this topic to boot... http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0612xia/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Question I am looking into developing a PHP driver for Unidata using Intercall. In the InterCall Developer's Guide when it refers to the Intercall libraries, it states --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Licensing Question
Charles, No, you're not violating licensing by moving the icsdk to another machine; the server program mentioned in the licensing is the unirpc daemon. If you haven't already read it, PickWiki.com has a page discussing U2 - PHP access: http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Accessing_U2_From_PHP Also keep in mind that IBM says that InterCall is not thread-safe, so program accordingly. rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking into developing a PHP driver for Unidata using Intercall. In the InterCall Developer's Guide when it refers to the Intercall libraries, it states You can make as many copies as you want of the client part of InterCall without further payment. You may not copy or redistribute the server program unless your license agreement explicitly allows you to. The software is on a Linux box that will be the database server. The driver will be running on a Linux box that is the web server. I would like to move the /usr/unishared/icsdk directory over to the web server and do the develoment there, since that is where the driver will be running. Am I violating any licensing agreements? Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Licensing Question
And you'll want to read the DeveloperWorks article on just this topic to boot... http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db2/library/techarticle/dm-0612xia/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 12:43 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Licensing Question I am looking into developing a PHP driver for Unidata using Intercall. In the InterCall Developer's Guide when it refers to the Intercall libraries, it states --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
