Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions
On 14/09/11 03:44, Bob Wyatt wrote: I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4. It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it. Sounds like (and it's quite likely) that uvbackup creates the backup in a temporary location, and only moves it to the z drive once it completes. This is normal behaviour for many programs. Makes sense - avoids trashing the old file until you know the replacement is sound. I'd check your universe temporary directory while the backup is running... Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions
Is it just me, or does anybody else absolutely cringe when here in late 2011 we see anyone still running W2K for any reason? - Original Message - From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:44:27 PM Subject: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4. It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it. The uvbackup command is essentially uvbackup -f -limit 1 -v -s logfile -t z:\backupfile.img -walk d:\uvdb\accounts The backup starts at 10 P.M., and finishes around 7 A.M. for a 37 GB database resulting in a 28.4 GB backup image file. The z:\backupfile.img file is a remote server path for the backup only. For the entire 9 hours, z:\backupfile.img file never exists - it doesn't get created until the job is done, it runs out of resources, or falls into some error that causes uvbackup to ask to continue with the current file, change the file, or quit. The z: location still has plenty of disk space - more than triple the space needed. It happens with or without the -limit 1 argument. The next day, it may run fine - completes the backup without error. The hardware is a 3.06 GHz Xeon processor with 3 GB of memory, SATA-1 drives on a RAID controller in a RAID-5 array (doing over 400 MB/sec transfer speed on Reads), and the network is 1 Gb. Has anyone noticed that their backup file does not (or did not) grow or exist until the backup is done? Does anyone know of a way to convince uvbackup to use the target file immediately without awaiting completion? Does anyone know if this happens in newer UniVerse releases this same way? Lastly, if d:\uvdb\accounts has a few accounts I don't want to back up, it looks like I cannot skip them in the backup unless I create a file with a list of all of the files I want to back up. This would be several hundred thousand files, and there are new files created every day. And I can't move the accounts I don't care about. I was thinking about SourceForge findutils, but am wondering if someone has experience with this or similar Windows find utilities and uvbackup? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Bob Wyatt ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions
It's just you. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of cheetah...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:03 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions Is it just me, or does anybody else absolutely cringe when here in late 2011 we see anyone still running W2K for any reason? - Original Message - From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:44:27 PM Subject: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4. It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it. The uvbackup command is essentially uvbackup -f -limit 1 -v -s logfile -t z:\backupfile.img -walk d:\uvdb\accounts The backup starts at 10 P.M., and finishes around 7 A.M. for a 37 GB database resulting in a 28.4 GB backup image file. The z:\backupfile.img file is a remote server path for the backup only. For the entire 9 hours, z:\backupfile.img file never exists - it doesn't get created until the job is done, it runs out of resources, or falls into some error that causes uvbackup to ask to continue with the current file, change the file, or quit. The z: location still has plenty of disk space - more than triple the space needed. It happens with or without the -limit 1 argument. The next day, it may run fine - completes the backup without error. The hardware is a 3.06 GHz Xeon processor with 3 GB of memory, SATA-1 drives on a RAID controller in a RAID-5 array (doing over 400 MB/sec transfer speed on Reads), and the network is 1 Gb. Has anyone noticed that their backup file does not (or did not) grow or exist until the backup is done? Does anyone know of a way to convince uvbackup to use the target file immediately without awaiting completion? Does anyone know if this happens in newer UniVerse releases this same way? Lastly, if d:\uvdb\accounts has a few accounts I don't want to back up, it looks like I cannot skip them in the backup unless I create a file with a list of all of the files I want to back up. This would be several hundred thousand files, and there are new files created every day. And I can't move the accounts I don't care about. I was thinking about SourceForge findutils, but am wondering if someone has experience with this or similar Windows find utilities and uvbackup? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Bob Wyatt ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions
Normally I would. However I am working on a project now, where the customer stopped paying maintenance for DataStage way back when, and the version they have only works on Windows 2000 Server. They have virtualized the box and everything runs fine.. Not ideal, but it does the job for them ;-) -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Bob Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 6:07 a.m. To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions It's just you. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of cheetah...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:03 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions Is it just me, or does anybody else absolutely cringe when here in late 2011 we see anyone still running W2K for any reason? - Original Message - From: Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:44:27 PM Subject: [U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4. It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it. The uvbackup command is essentially uvbackup -f -limit 1 -v -s logfile -t z:\backupfile.img -walk d:\uvdb\accounts The backup starts at 10 P.M., and finishes around 7 A.M. for a 37 GB database resulting in a 28.4 GB backup image file. The z:\backupfile.img file is a remote server path for the backup only. For the entire 9 hours, z:\backupfile.img file never exists - it doesn't get created until the job is done, it runs out of resources, or falls into some error that causes uvbackup to ask to continue with the current file, change the file, or quit. The z: location still has plenty of disk space - more than triple the space needed. It happens with or without the -limit 1 argument. The next day, it may run fine - completes the backup without error. The hardware is a 3.06 GHz Xeon processor with 3 GB of memory, SATA-1 drives on a RAID controller in a RAID-5 array (doing over 400 MB/sec transfer speed on Reads), and the network is 1 Gb. Has anyone noticed that their backup file does not (or did not) grow or exist until the backup is done? Does anyone know of a way to convince uvbackup to use the target file immediately without awaiting completion? Does anyone know if this happens in newer UniVerse releases this same way? Lastly, if d:\uvdb\accounts has a few accounts I don't want to back up, it looks like I cannot skip them in the backup unless I create a file with a list of all of the files I want to back up. This would be several hundred thousand files, and there are new files created every day. And I can't move the accounts I don't care about. I was thinking about SourceForge findutils, but am wondering if someone has experience with this or similar Windows find utilities and uvbackup? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Bob Wyatt ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
