RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Net will run on Linux the day that a very large Linux shop tells Micro$oft they need that functionality to convert over to windoze That said, I've been using c# and .Net for a couple of years now and I find it to be pretty damn good. If you have a captive audience that just happens to run windoze and already has the .Net runtime installed, then it really is a simple matter of doing an xcopy of your app down to the workstation. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/20/04 01:55PM And will this next version of .NET run fine on Linux and Mac OS? I don't keep current enough with MS and I know they keep suggesting they will run on Linux and MacOS, but I'm not familiar with any projects that will actually accomplish that. While their .NET efforts do look like they have a lot of things going right for them, I still don't like locking into Microsoft for everything. If I knew I could deploy the results of .NET development efforts on other platforms, I'd be much more interested. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Canale, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:31 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based So, shockwave is fine, Java Web Start is fine and anything else that could be installed by users going to this web page and clicking here and that is maintained something like Adobe pdf readers would be fine. In case you haven't seen the next version of .NET yet, Visual Studio 2005 has a Click Once feature that is exactly this. The zero touch deployment or xcopy stuff that started with the first release of .NET was like the first version of Windows, the start of an idea that wasn't really too far along. The next version improves quite a bit on this beginning. Actually, you have options to start from a web 'click', install a link to the desktop/start menu, etc.. It automatically checks/downloads a newer version (or runs locally if no connection to the server). I'm sure there are still going to be some issues (dealing with unmanaged code comes to mind) but, it should work very well with UniObjects.NET (when it gets here). Regards, Jim -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: callHTTP
It's good to remind ourselves that there are a ton of command line type tools out there that do some pretty amazing things. (lynx, wget, rsync, etc). Most are availble in source form and with compiled versions for both Unix and Windows. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/05/04 10:49AM Also, would wget (if running unix) be an option? Not sure if it will work to submit a form, I know it will retrieve data. I may be dating myself, but I was thinking of LYNX .. The only reason that this *might* be useful is if you need the output formatted .. WGET will get the HTML source .. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How to launch remote browser from UniVerse server? (In Training...)
I will be attending a training session in room 2B. If you require assistance, please page me. Thanks, u2-users 04/02/04 09:44 Does anyone have an example of how to do this if the terminal emulator is QPC Software, QVT/Term? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Polak Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:17 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: How to launch remote browser from UniVerse server? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It depends on what you use for a terminal emulator. For Accuterm you need to place something like the following in a Basic program to open IE: PRINT CHAR(27):CHAR(2)::iexplore:CHAR(13): There are numerous ways to get reports to display in the browser. One easy way to start testing is to set up a file that can be accessible by both U2 and mapped to the user's PC. For example create a U2 file called TEMP that is pointing to a location that can be mapped to by the user PC. Map that location to the S:\temp directory. Write your U2 report to the TEMP file with a record name of FILE.NAME. Then un the command: PRINT CHAR(27):CHAR(2)::iexplore S:\temp\:FILE.NAME:CHAR(13): This will load IE with the written data. Once your comfortable with this, you can explore tools like txt2html, txt2pdf, and the U2 print spooler. With these tools you can have a print queue automagically translate a print job into html or pdf and write them out to a file directory. mike - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LeRoi Keiller Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to launch remote browser from UniVerse server? Hi I have a client (customer) who wishes to launch users' desktop browsers from a UniVerse server. 1/ How can this be done (actual instructions, if possible) So far, UniObjects has been mentioned and DDE - but, any other ideas. Or, what are the instructions to actually do this? 2/ Once the above is possible, how could a UniVerse report be displayed in the user's browser, for example? Thanks, LeRoi ___ LeRoi Keiller Client Support - Technical UltraData - Vision to Reality Ph +61 3 9291 1700 www.ultradata.com.au Disclaimer Notice This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action or place any reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Ultradata immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Ultradata Australia Pty. Ltd. - -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBQGwkcLAst3KQK8kYEQKDogCg0bzg1ozWLQNeh2dYnXbY2fm6kUEAoOFm QDZOX7Cy0/cJqFR+ACkGAPla =oYUN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
Are you running LMS from TMC?? If so, then I have a solution that will do what your after. I use a couple of perl scripts and a Word macro to allow our billing staff to get a text version of the invoice in Word, mark it up and then re-print it back to the HP-UX machine. The reprint process takes the print file and turns it into a PDF that is then stored for future reference via a web based lookup page. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 08:48AM Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: XML or WORD Format???
LMS only knows raw, plain text. That's all it's putting out. Have a look at /usr/spool/uv/drv. There's probably a couple of fancy scripts in there that are installing the image for you. If not, give me a holler offline and I can point you to the subroutine that puts out the invoice. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 09:02AM Don, We are using LMS from TMC. John. -Original Message- From: Donald Kibbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? Are you running LMS from TMC?? If so, then I have a solution that will do what your after. I use a couple of perl scripts and a Word macro to allow our billing staff to get a text version of the invoice in Word, mark it up and then re-print it back to the HP-UX machine. The reprint process takes the print file and turns it into a PDF that is then stored for future reference via a web based lookup page. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 08:48AM Thanks, The goal is to have a copy of our invoice that can be opened in WORD or Excel. I only mentioned the PCL and .pdf formats because these are already produced when we create an invoice. If there is another way please let me know. We are running Universe version 9.6. John. -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:43 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: XML or WORD Format??? In one word - it's IMPOSSIBLE. Okay, you may be able to achieve what you want, though. The thing is, the output of pdf and pcl is an image, Word and xml are structured text. You can't go automatically from a structure-free format to a structured format. I'd investigate ghostscript, and see if you can get it to throw out a text document rather than postscript (or feed the postscript through a ps2txt filter), but if your original pdf or pcl was of a graphic, then you're stuffed without an ocr filter in place. So, basically, what you're after can be achieved, but without knowing what is IN your input files, it's impossible to recommend (or even guess) what might or might not work. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haas, John Sent: 01 April 2004 14:33 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: XML or WORD Format??? Does Anyone know of a way to convert either .pdf or PCL formats to XML and/or WORD format that will run under HP-UX. Thanks in advance. John. *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail or telephone, and delete the original message immediately. For more information, please visit http://www.bakerlaw.com. Thank you. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *** THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL, AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding
RE: Comparing Oracle with UV
Just like to say that I have a good 13 years experience with database systems and another 10+ years beyond with hardware repair. And on this list, I consider myself to be a rank amateur... That's why I usually just sit in the back of the room and toss the occasional round of text grenades. :-() Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP snip we are not amateurs, many of us have been involved in multinational companies, processing billions of dollars of transactions in mission critical from banking to health to distribution. Regards David Jordan snip -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
Yep I can delete and drop too. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 09:19PM Dude... Why don't u find somewhere to TALK Rubbish! IF you don't like the EMAILS... DON'T YOU KNOW HOW TO DELETE...? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kibbey Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:13 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing Dude, your like the dog that just won't stop humping the guests leg. Get over it already. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Eugene Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 8:31 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing David, All I ask is to keep an open mind as PICK plays an important role in some areas of technology that cannot be replaced I am very open minded to all Technologies and I think every software professional will benefit from being open to technologies. I have been unable to convince myself that an UV Brings any kind of value for the below in an OLTP Environment. 1. Advanced Level Software Development. 2. Performance 3. Scalability etc Nested tables (Big Feature for UV) is not something new, most relational databases accommodate this feature at a much higher level. IF BIG THREE Databases (DB2/ORACLE/MSSQL) was poor on ROI... Why would 75% of the worlds Corporations depend on such databases? Can you Name One BIG Fortune 100 that totally relies on UV? I have heard stories where several corporations migrated to RDBMS, Never heard any LARGE Corp(Hershey, GE, BOfA etc) switch to UV/MVDBMS. Never seen any Enterprise Software (SAP, PeopleSoft etc) mention UV on their Web Sites Never seen a book on UV OR PICK at Barnes Nobles. Perhaps you can explain where UV plays an Important Role. Thanks, Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of djordan Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:43 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing Hi Joe I have worked with variety of databases and I think using one performance statistic to evaluate the capabilities of one database against another is meaningless. As a professional I consider all databases for any business requirement and select on their merits. To discount MV products from that list would be unproffesional and negligent. There are numerous cases where Universe has clobbered RDBMS in the real world and a cost per transaction it is very strong. If you take an Oracle style application and run it on Universe, Oracle will probaly run better. If you take a typical Universe Application and run it on another RDBMS, Universe will most likely run better. The style of application can impact on speed, different databases are built for different styles of applications and a number of applications built in the PICK world do not transfer to RDBMS to the surprise of many a sacked CEO. I have used Universe to integrate with a significant number of other databases and applications and have generated award winning software. The most critical requirement for any is bussiness is to have a solution that is reliable, creates an ROI and is on schedule in development which is the norm in the Universe world. All I ask is to keep an open mind as PICK plays an important role in some areas of technology that cannot be replaced. Regards David Jordan -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
As stated earlier, kindly leave the guests alone. They are tired of your flaming. If your not interested in learning some legacy techniques then kindly just go away and code up some wonderful stuff in vb against a nice fat Oracle data store. Bye!!! Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 09:25PM What is your DEAL... Am Not Interested in Learning PICK/BASIC Or spending my valuable hours on some legacy technique. You can call it WHATEVER you want... Does it really Matter? You seem to be VERY Interested in Trivial things and stupid comments! Joe http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: The lists are closing
British Humour in the morning ain't it great? Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 05:36AM Cliff, We whose lists are about to die, salute you. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
So, what's your point? Use C# against the UV database if that's what you want to do (I and others have been doing this for a couple of years now). If your so dead set against UV, then switch your site to Oracle or DB2. Send us another note in 6 months and let us know what you spent on consultants and extra hardware to do this. Thanks, Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 11:07AM I can't say if MV is slow or inefficient as far as database handling compared to various relational DBMS environments. I don't think its hard to prove that UV is Much IN-Efficient than other advanced DataBase Technologies. Here is a simple test... 1. Populate UV and Oracle with around 10 Million records. 2. Write fairly complex Web Application against it. 3. Run a Web Application Stress tool(around 1000 Users) switching Databases within the same DB Machine. You don't have to be a scientist to look at Performance Monitor. Stating that UV people use PICK and that UV is not supported by SAP or Peoplesoft tells me you aren't very familiar with this technology I have only worked at one place that used UV, am Not interested in learning PICK Or UV. In the current state...UV is used as a FLAT FILE... with a bunch of Stuff..packed on it.. and then use PICK to read through these UV Files. Do you think SAP can integrate with the above Environment? SAP Integrates with all Major RDBMS well am aware UV.. can be treated as a RDBMS... but I don't belive Corporations use UV as RDBMS... if that's the case why Not just use Oracle Or DB2.. which are highly efficient and Ton of resources out there to depend on. with this technology. Saying MV is slow and then advocating a translation to Java tells me you aren't too familiar with Java either I have done Java integration with UV/RedBack and am familiar with UNIJ...thats all I want to know about the details of UV Java! I belive developers should appreciate technology for 1. Performance 2. Scalability 3. Ease Of Integration. 4. Advanced Techniques. 5. Resources for Development... RAD etc. I personally like Java...but I still do appreciate MS.NET C# cause of some of its advanced techniques and performance stuff. Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:30 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing I can't say if MV is slow or inefficient as far as database handling compared to various relational DBMS environments. Since the tests themselves (TPC, etc) are biased because they themselves are defined based on relational constructs, I suspect we'll never get real numbers that we can all agree on. Aside from that you're way off. Stating that UV people use PICK and that UV is not supported by SAP or Peoplesoft tells me you aren't very familiar with this technology. Saying MV is slow and then advocating a translation to Java tells me you aren't too familiar with Java either. Saying Pick doesn't support advanced level computing is simply wrong, and so are a couple of your other claims. But I think we understand and can agree with your point that MV isn't mainstream. Pick-based DBMS products are very capable with regard to communications. We can connect an MV app to anything. Connectivity methods aren't always mainstream but the claims of little/NO support and not compatible are incorrect. Non-MV products incorporate tools that we can use just as easily. Remember that programming and connectivity are not natively done within most other DBMS environments, they use outside tools to connect into a DBMS too. So in a sense, because we have tools inside and outside of our environments, we have a bit more to work with than they do - that is, BASIC can be considered a built-on RAD language compared to the inadequacies of stored procedures. It's counter-productive to get into one-upmanship against relational products and other staples of the IT world, so I'll just close by saying all of these products are as good as the skills of the people using them. Here at Nebula RD we'll be happy to help you connect your app to anything you want, including SAP, Peoplesoft, DB2, or whatever else you or your trading partners use. Tony Joe Eugene wrote: PICK is LEGACY Technology and does NOT Support alot of advanced level computing we have today. 1. UV has Little/NO support for Emerging Technologies(XML/XQuery/XSLT/WML etc) 2. UV is Not supported in Most Integration Enterprise Software (SAP/PeopleSoft) 3. UV is Not efficient compared to highly evolved databases(DB2/Oracle) 4. UV Folks seem to use PICK, which is Not Compatible with many of of the Current Advanced Technologies and Techniques. 5. UV is very SLOW, TOO Procedural and Not the right tool for an OLTP Environment. It
RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
I can't speak for your in house guys, but here, we do warehousing on the UniVerse machine. It does support it quite well. We Use the UniVerse machine to feed data to a couple of SQL server based solutions (they are third party vertical apps). How does the data get from UniVerse to SQL Server? By way of an xml data packet, in real time. I've found over the years that if you want/need to do it with UniVerse, it can be done. You might have to perform an upgrade to the latest version, but it's a well supported product. Read your manuals and see for yourself. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 11:27AM We have UV doing everything on the BackEnd, we also have MSSQL Server to Support Data Warehousing... Why 2 Databases Systems? Cause UV Cant support Data Warehousing? Doesn't this eventually introduce Disparate Systems? U2, for example, has support for Java connectivity, XML, and I believe they either have or are working on Web Services support Its funny you say the above, UV/PICK Guys in our Team didn't even understand the basics of XML.. leave alone XPath, XQuery etc. These Technologies are NATIVELY Supported in ORACLE/DB2 Etc. e.g. We pull XML Reports from our Vendors Real Time. I have to parse through the XML and give UV/PICK Guys a FLAT TEXT File... cause either UV Cannot handle the storage and Retrival of XML Data Using XPath/XQuery Techniques. Yes, we use DataStage to pull data out of UV Into MSSQL SERVER... For what? Why cant UV handle of the DB Job? As for Performance...UV Does NOT Perform Well in a OLTP Environment, SIMPLE: IF UV did Perform Well...Today's Fortune 500 would depend on UV and UV/PICK would have been in the TOP 3 OF DataBases. Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David T. Meeks Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 9:37 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing While one could make the argument that Pick has not embraced emerging technologies as rapidly as the 'Big Three', it HAS done so. U2, for example, has support for Java connectivity, XML, and I believe they either have or are working on Web Services support (I know, for example, that the DSEngine in DataStage has support for Web Services). One could argue the need or purpose of supporting certain technologies, and the level of support currently within the products, but to say that there is little/no support is a bit uninformed. The U2 products ARE supported in certain Integration software. I wouldn't typically consider SAP/PeopleSoft integration software. They are Enterprise Software Suites, but not geared particularly at 'integration'. However, given that SAP and PeopleSoft OEM the DataStage product sets for both of their integration products (SAP's BW, PeopleSoft's EPM, JDEdwards stuff as well), and given DataStage works very well with both U2 products, this point is actually wrong. People who have SAP or PeopleSoft solutions CAN, very easily, integrate their U2 data to/from those environments. As to 'efficiency', one can measure that in a variety of different dimensions. From a memory/disk space/footprint/administrative overhead dimensions, the U2 database products are VERY efficient. Finally, as to being slow, again this depends on the measurement criteria being used. From the perspective of concurrent user access and the performance of application style DB usage (largely input/output, multiple concurrent users, etc..), the U2 products stand up very well to the mainstream guys. For support of VLDB, highly transactional query-based usage models, and the like, it does not. Trying to make the U2 products into what they are not is wrong. They are not the panacea for every database requirement. However, for certain problems, especially those for which it was designed (embedded database for application development), it is very efficient. Dave At 10:24 PM 3/28/2004 -0500, you wrote: PICK is LEGACY Technology and does NOT Support alot of advanced level computing we have today. I belive PICK is Similiar to Legacy DB2 that used ISAM type of DataBases Access. Even IBM has moved DB2 (Now UDB) to a completly relational architecture. I belive some of the below are good reasons to Migrate to MainStream (Top 3 - DB2/Oracle/MSSQL etc) Databases. 1. UV has Little/NO support for Emerging Technologies(XML/XQuery/XSLT/WML etc) 2. UV is Not supported in Most Integration Enterprise Software (SAP/PeopleSoft) 3. UV is Not efficient compared to highly evolved databases(DB2/Oracle) 4. UV Folks seem to use PICK, which is Not Compatible with many of of the Current Advanced Technologies and Techniques. 5. UV is very SLOW, TOO Procedural and Not the right tool for an OLTP Environment. It would be nice if IBM provided a Package to convert
RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing
Funny, I find the fact that I don't have to deal with how long a string is to be a feature. Same with floats, inegers etc. You really do not understand anything about Pick or UniVerse. You should put down the keyboard and read a bit. No more replies on this please. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 11:33AM Any Software that can do a TON of Stuff is MUCH More Complex! Is SAP easy to Learn? UV/PICK doesn't even use Strong Data Typing (Integer/Float/String)... Half the complexity and Performance is Lost there... Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donald Kibbey Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing So, what's your point? Use C# against the UV database if that's what you want to do (I and others have been doing this for a couple of years now). If your so dead set against UV, then switch your site to Oracle or DB2. Send us another note in 6 months and let us know what you spent on consultants and extra hardware to do this. Thanks, Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 11:07AM I can't say if MV is slow or inefficient as far as database handling compared to various relational DBMS environments. I don't think its hard to prove that UV is Much IN-Efficient than other advanced DataBase Technologies. Here is a simple test... 1. Populate UV and Oracle with around 10 Million records. 2. Write fairly complex Web Application against it. 3. Run a Web Application Stress tool(around 1000 Users) switching Databases within the same DB Machine. You don't have to be a scientist to look at Performance Monitor. Stating that UV people use PICK and that UV is not supported by SAP or Peoplesoft tells me you aren't very familiar with this technology I have only worked at one place that used UV, am Not interested in learning PICK Or UV. In the current state...UV is used as a FLAT FILE... with a bunch of Stuff..packed on it.. and then use PICK to read through these UV Files. Do you think SAP can integrate with the above Environment? SAP Integrates with all Major RDBMS well am aware UV.. can be treated as a RDBMS... but I don't belive Corporations use UV as RDBMS... if that's the case why Not just use Oracle Or DB2.. which are highly efficient and Ton of resources out there to depend on. with this technology. Saying MV is slow and then advocating a translation to Java tells me you aren't too familiar with Java either I have done Java integration with UV/RedBack and am familiar with UNIJ...thats all I want to know about the details of UV Java! I belive developers should appreciate technology for 1. Performance 2. Scalability 3. Ease Of Integration. 4. Advanced Techniques. 5. Resources for Development... RAD etc. I personally like Java...but I still do appreciate MS.NET C# cause of some of its advanced techniques and performance stuff. Joe Eugene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:30 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing I can't say if MV is slow or inefficient as far as database handling compared to various relational DBMS environments. Since the tests themselves (TPC, etc) are biased because they themselves are defined based on relational constructs, I suspect we'll never get real numbers that we can all agree on. Aside from that you're way off. Stating that UV people use PICK and that UV is not supported by SAP or Peoplesoft tells me you aren't very familiar with this technology. Saying MV is slow and then advocating a translation to Java tells me you aren't too familiar with Java either. Saying Pick doesn't support advanced level computing is simply wrong, and so are a couple of your other claims. But I think we understand and can agree with your point that MV isn't mainstream. Pick-based DBMS products are very capable with regard to communications. We can connect an MV app to anything. Connectivity methods aren't always mainstream but the claims of little/NO support and not compatible are incorrect. Non-MV products incorporate tools that we can use just as easily. Remember that programming and connectivity are not natively done within most other DBMS environments, they use outside tools to connect into a DBMS too. So in a sense, because we have tools inside and outside of our environments, we have a bit more to work with than they do - that is, BASIC can be considered a built-on RAD language compared to the inadequacies of stored procedures. It's counter
Re: Question for Donald Kibbey
(adjusting tin foil headgear) You do realize that Micro$oft is really in the hard drive business. Of course .Net takes up a gazillion megabytes and to use my method of getting to UniVerse with C# (so you can type in all those cool looking semi-colons) you'll have to load another half gazillion megabytes of mostly unused J# java stuff too. But, you also get the benefit of holding your nose high and sniffing condescendingly at the mere vb developers who are not allowed to type in the cool semi-colons. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/29/04 02:57PM In a message dated 3/29/2004 2:28:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: George, the best commercial integration option available for MV right now is the Pick Data Provider .NET from Raining Data. But doesn't .NET take up like a gazillion bytes of space? And doesn't integration require an object? As in... integration with .. what? Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: SV: ANTIVIRUS
No, no need to run the antivirus junk on a Unix machine. In fact this whole thread is simply more evidence that you'll do better to run a database server on Unix. I have the lucky job of being the DBA for a couple of UniVerse systems running under HP-UX and a half dozen Micro$oft SQL servers running on Windows 2000. I spend far more time dinking with the Microsoft stuff for non database related fixes (patches, share security, PDC problems, etc). That said, Micro$oft SQL server is a great database system, it's only drawback is that it must run on Windows. Well, theres also the fact you have to tell it abouit all those data types and lengths... Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/04 06:46AM Is anyone using AV software on Unix systems like Solaris? Björn Eklund Anknytning 2088 -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skickat: den 25 mars 2004 11:52 Till: U2 Users Discussion List Ämne: RE: ANTIVIRUS We use sophos. www.sophos.com Just a dedicated AV company, and does nothing else. Plus you can get bulk licences (or could last I checked) so it is MANDATORY for all personal pcs that they be running sophos if the owner wishes to connect them to the company net. We just give them a cd and tell them they MUST install it. Cheers, Wol -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: SV: ANTIVIRUS
Yes, I've always wondered if theres not some jointly funded entity out there that does nothing but release viri into the wild. I used to work for Zenith (many lifetimes ago) and the sales department there used Macs. The Macs were always getting hit with viri of some sort and the standard fix at the time was to wipe the disk and reload the software. On a Mac with a 20meg hard drive, this did not take too long. snip .although that might be because the AV vendor has allocated their best employees to that department. ;-) - Robert -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UniVerse 10 on Win2k3
A good reason would be that your have just put your server under the control of some very cpu intensive software. I've seen to many cases where our networking guys cranked up Norton or some other anti virus product on the database servers and brought them to their collective knees. One of the great problems with Windoze (IMHO) is that it presents a pretty and familiar face. This results in stuff running on servers that simply should not be there (screen savers, anit viri scanners, games, etc). I say, don't run that anti virus junk on my db server and I won't crank up SQL server on your firewall or PDC!! Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/24/04 12:54PM You have to give me good reason not to run Antivirus on a server. For example, it causes the applications to hose up (which would suck but I know happens). Because I agree, there are too many opportunities for infection and a multi-layered defense is better than a single-layered defense. Signed, Once-an-Information-Security-Officer, Cyndi - Original Message - From: uniVerse mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:24 AM Subject: RE: UniVerse 10 on Win2k3 up until yesterday i'd have agreed with you. However a client got infected with a virus that symantec *claims* to have known about since December, but wasn't actually detected until i sent them the sample and it appeared in last nights defs! Virus spread via irc and *open admin$ shares* on the server - with weak administrator passwords. Therefore the server got infected. A realtime scanner would have picked this virus up this morning. (just make sure the realtime scanner does not scan the database itself) -Original Message- From: Anthony Youngman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 24 March 2004 09:29 Posted To: uniVerse Conversation: UniVerse 10 on Win2k3 Subject: RE: UniVerse 10 on Win2k3 AARRGGHH!! NEVER EVER run antivirus on a server. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: SETPTR for sending to file
This is going to knock what's left of the shine off my UniVerse Expert crown, but I did not realize this could be done! Thanks!! Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/23/04 01:52PM From: Cyndi Calvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (responding to Jeff) LPTR!!! Thanks. That was what was missing. Works like a charm. THANK YOU Now for lesson two in SETPTR. The first parameter is a printer unit which defaults to zero. So, a not uncommon thing to do is to issue multiple setptr commands, then direct output to them appropriately. One example might be: SETPTR 0,132,2,0,0,3,BANNER MYFILE,BRIEF SETPTR 1,132,2,0,0,3,BANNER MYFILE.NARROW,BRIEF SETPTR 2,85,2,0,0,3,BANNER MYFILE.VERY.NARROW,BRIEF SELECT VOC SAMPLE 50 LIST VOC F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 LPTR SELECT VOC SAMPLE 50 LIST VOC F1 F2 F3 LPTR 1 SELECT VOC SAMPLE 50 LIST VOC F1 LPTR 2 Those are all MODE 3, which writes to the HOLD file. More appropriately, you might use the default MODE which spools, and use different AT's or DEST's within your SETPTR statements. I've seen people define their printer destinations using multiple SETPTR statements in their VOC LOGIN paragraphs.. That way they can simply LIST anyfile LPTR 1 and it'll show up on a particular printer, or LIST anyfile LPTR 2 and have it show up elsewhere. The same logic can be used within BASIC programs where you need to create multiple output files simultaneously. Perhaps for an AP run where you're printing checks and a register. In that case you'd specify the UNIT in the SETPTR, the PRINT and the CLOSE statements. Defaults for all are zero, but they're all specifiable. Rgds. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Crazy intermittent problem. Need help as soon as possible.
streamwriter and textwriter are .Net objects used to write stuff to files. I've encountered some interesting issues when I forgot to flush them Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/19/04 09:17AM Hi, I'm using UniObjects to write the data, too, using SchedFile.Write(). I've posted some code in my last note. I haven't heard of the streamwriter and/or textwriter objects. Could you please tell me more? Thanks, Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Kibbey Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Crazy intermittent problem. Need help as soon aspossible. You don't say what your using to write the data. On the PC side, look for the flush() function of the streamwriter and textwriter objects. Are you maintaining a constant connection with the UniData machine? Really need some code to look at to help. Thanks, Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 04:17PM Hi, Everyone. I'm having trouble with a scheduling program I'm writing in VB.net, on a WinXPpro system, using UniObjects, that extracts and writes data to a file in our Unidata 6.0.3 system on an AIX 5.1L system. The trouble that I'm having is that the data is getting corrupted. As the screen doesn't rebuild after a data save, I don't 'see' the problem until I restart the program the next time around, and data is re-read from the database. I've been through my program 3 times, and can't find an error. I'm assuming at this point that the error is outside my program, as I ran the same test data through the program 5 times, and it only corrupted the data 3 times. The other two it worked flawlessly. If it was an error in my program, it shouldn't ever work right, should it? Also, the program treats every record equally, but the data is intermittently corrupted, some records process fine, others get corrupted. Some fields are lost all together. Fortunately it's still in test mode, so we haven't lost any real data yet. The data is doing things like this: Record 1: Record 2: DelDate:03/18/0403/18/04 --OK SeqNo: 3 3--OK Type: F 0 These two are mixed together (* see below) Hours: 0h hF ---/ Code: -= This one is GONE Color: BlueWBluThese two are mixed together (* see below) Symbol: W e ---/ Emp:1= This one is GONE! RelNo: 01234567001 N0123456700 These two are mixed together (* see below) Priority: N 1 ---/ (* HERE!) At first, I thought that the data was being broken up at the wrong points, but after a closer look, it appears that this is happening. In each three line group: Line1: Starts with the first character of line two, and loses it's last character. Line2: Loses it's first character to line 1, and gains the last character of line 1 at the end of it's data. Line3: Data is gone (unless it's a space character) It's really crazy. Anyone have any ideas for this one? If so, any help is appreciated. Thanks, Dave -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Setting up SQL step 1
upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. You think maybe somewhere along the path between 9.5 and 10.1 the SQL setup and operation was improved just a tad? Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 06:25AM Well, 9.5 is a VMark product ... I'm not surprised IBM said the documentation doesn't exist. As we know from the licencing fiasco, the chain of control somewhere there went down the pan ... it's changed hands three times since then and somebody probably mislaid it somewhere I've probably got 9.5 docu somewhere if you know what you want - but it'll be the CD version, and I know for a fact that the electronic docu at the time was incomplete... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 March 2004 19:40 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Setting up SQL step 1 Good news (I think) From what I learned - the admin user is set up when you load the operating system . I was told that if I re-installed my latest upgrade tape that I could update the user at that time. I never was able to find any of this documentation on this - and when I asked IBM, since I was running 9.5 they conveniently told me that this documentation no longer existed - go figure. *** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [OT] RE: Setting up SQL step 1
Well, that's a hearty pat on the back for all those old timers out there who worked on UniVerse during the VMark days. Still, better to upgrade (IMHO). Afterall, why not add some excitement to your life and chase some new features instead of the same old ones you already know how to deal with! Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 09:26AM LOL... love this one. At 09:23 AM 03/18/2004, you wrote: snip upgrade, upgrade, upgrade. You think maybe somewhere along the path between 9.5 and 10.1 the SQL setup and operation was improved just a tad? Don Kibbey /snip please feel free to do so. My experience with this specific issue revealed that it has stayed unchanged and I get the impression that it is not going to improve. Add to this the fact that I do not need to add the misery of new release undocumented features. dan who wishes for the return of the good old days when releases were every couple of years but 99% bug free plocinik Note: Effective February 2, 2004, Arnold Porter became a limited liability partnership with the name Arnold Porter LLP. Please change your records accordingly. The addresses, telephone and fax numbers, and e-mail addresses of the firm and attorneys have not changed. -- This communication may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete it from his or her computer. -- Daniel Plocinik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Arnold Porter LLP Telephone: 202-274-7639 555 Twelfth Street, NW Fax:202-942-5999 Washington, DC 20004-1202 For more information about Arnold Porter LLP, click here: http://www.arnoldporter.com -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Crazy intermittent problem. Need help as soon as possible.
You don't say what your using to write the data. On the PC side, look for the flush() function of the streamwriter and textwriter objects. Are you maintaining a constant connection with the UniData machine? Really need some code to look at to help. Thanks, Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/18/04 04:17PM Hi, Everyone. I'm having trouble with a scheduling program I'm writing in VB.net, on a WinXPpro system, using UniObjects, that extracts and writes data to a file in our Unidata 6.0.3 system on an AIX 5.1L system. The trouble that I'm having is that the data is getting corrupted. As the screen doesn't rebuild after a data save, I don't 'see' the problem until I restart the program the next time around, and data is re-read from the database. I've been through my program 3 times, and can't find an error. I'm assuming at this point that the error is outside my program, as I ran the same test data through the program 5 times, and it only corrupted the data 3 times. The other two it worked flawlessly. If it was an error in my program, it shouldn't ever work right, should it? Also, the program treats every record equally, but the data is intermittently corrupted, some records process fine, others get corrupted. Some fields are lost all together. Fortunately it's still in test mode, so we haven't lost any real data yet. The data is doing things like this: Record 1: Record 2: DelDate:03/18/0403/18/04 --OK SeqNo: 3 3--OK Type: F 0 These two are mixed together (* see below) Hours: 0h hF ---/ Code: -= This one is GONE Color: BlueWBluThese two are mixed together (* see below) Symbol: W e ---/ Emp:1= This one is GONE! RelNo: 01234567001 N0123456700 These two are mixed together (* see below) Priority: N 1 ---/ (* HERE!) At first, I thought that the data was being broken up at the wrong points, but after a closer look, it appears that this is happening. In each three line group: Line1: Starts with the first character of line two, and loses it's last character. Line2: Loses it's first character to line 1, and gains the last character of line 1 at the end of it's data. Line3: Data is gone (unless it's a space character) It's really crazy. Anyone have any ideas for this one? If so, any help is appreciated. Thanks, Dave -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV - is there a coldstart equivalent
On a Unix based system you can use the cron facilities to perform periodic mantenance and the startup script to perform onetime chores when the UniVerse daemons are first started. The same thing can be done under Windoze by using either the builtin scheduler or a cron substitute. Replacing the shortcut or start menu link with a script or batch file would take care of the startup process. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/04 12:04PM In D3 there is a coldstart process that runs when the database is started which is useful from an applications stand point by clearing status files, starting application phantoms and general cleanup. There does not seem to be an equivalent mechanism in Universe. What have people done to provide similar and reliable functionality? -Troy -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Brower based terminal emulator
More work one time vs more work everytime the system is used?? I meant this as a response to someones suggestion that they use wine to run a windows based terminal emulator on linux. To me, that makes no sense at all. Yes, the terminfo sources are a pain to setup right, but running wine for a terminal emulator will just make the system run slower and will make you look like a fool if another more savy consultant happens to wonder by. One of the benefits of using a system like UniVerse or UniData is that it allows for all sorts of different clients to use it. But, you do have to put in some effort, especially if your dealing with an older Pick app that was written with embedded terminal and printer codes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/04 09:19PM In a message dated 3/7/2004 7:59:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edit the terminal sources on the Linux box then and make them do whatever it is you need them to do. Far more efficient than cranking up a windows based emulated emulator That's a little more work for some people, then just finding an emulator that does it right in the first place. Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: SCO/Samba
Step One. Remove SCO and replace with your choice of (SuSE, Redhat, Gentoo, Mandrake, etc) Step Two. Install SAMBA http://www.groklaw.net for more info on why you may want to proceed with step one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/02/04 11:57PM Gang, I'm installing SAMBA on SCO (Open Server 5) tomorrow. All advice, hints, and tips appreciated. I've set up SAMBA before, but it was usually a config only issue (pre-installed) and this time I have to start from the install. - Charles I think I can - I Think I can Barouch -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: u2 maintenance agreements
Leave them today. C# works just fine with UniObjects for Java. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/04 11:39AM I wish IBM would hurry up and get their C# .Net provider so we could leave Raining S... behind. There are only 10 people in the world who understand binary. George Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:32 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: u2 maintenance agreements Doesn't Raining Data have a Pick Product that supports .NET? :-) SNIP Isn't there a separate list server for whining? :-) SNIP -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Common Universe/Unidata files
I suppose switching one of the machines to the other database is not an option? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/26/04 09:20AM This file would be accessed by quite a number of programs, many times during a day. Thanks, everyone. You have given us some excellent options to consider. Randal -Original Message- From: Timothy Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 25, 2004 3:45 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Common Universe/Unidata files Randal, With half a million records, I strongly agree that you don't want to put this in a directory file. Without knowing more about what you're doing, I'd be inclined to set up a hashed file stored in either UniVerse or UniData (flip a coin). Then you could put together a socket client/server setup to handle updates from the other side. That could be set up with the appropriate rules to handle locking and anything else that may be required to properly negotiate updates. You might need to pass around some other information, such the next key, etc., but it shouldn't be too bad. Is this something that would need to be accessed from many programs, or just a few? How frequently would the file be accessed and updated? Tim Snyder IBM Data Management Solutions Consulting I/T Specialist , U2 Professional Services Office (717) 545-6403 (rolls to cell phone) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randal LeBlanc wrote on 02/25/2004 02:49:10 PM: We have separate applications running on Universe and Unidata. The apps run on separate aix servers. We would like to create a common file that can be accessed by both applications but are not sure of the best approach to take. Any suggestions??-- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Randal LeBlanc JCL Associates, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jclinc.com -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Integrate xterm or Linux emulation
A windows based terminal emulator in a wine box on linux? Sounds very painful... Why not simply run one of the many linux based terminal packages or simply use telnet or xterm. If this is due to some sort of emulation issue, I'll bet that somewhere in your application in a universe far far away, some twit programmer used a bunch of hard coded emulation strings instead of calling out to the correct terminfo functions. The correct way to move forward is to find those spots in the application and fix them. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/24/04 04:02AM snipIsn't it a bit daft to emulate an emulator? If you like wIntegrate, just run that in a wine box and tell the app you're using wIntegrate./snip Has anybody had success running wIntegrate or Dynamic Connect in a wine box on Linux. I have tried using crossover from Codeweaver to install Dynamic Connect. It runs successfully for about 2 minutes and then appears to go into loop where the cursor flashes all over the screen and the session has to be killed. I am really keen to get this to run on linux. Thanks and regards Ian Stuart -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
UniCommand via UniObjects (Java)
I'm attempting to send a compound command with the UniCommand object and have hit what looks like a documented limitation. Before I go off and rethink how I'm doing this, I thought I'd ask to make sure this really won't work. What I'm attempting is to run something like this under UniObjects. QSELECT CLIENT.XREF 12345 :@FM: SSELECT AR.TR BY MATTER WITH INVOICE = 12345 On this system, doing this results in a very quick selection of a couple hundred records out of the AR.TR file. But, the docs for UniObjects say only one command at a time. Does this mean that sticking a couple commands together like this is just not possible? I've tried it and it looks like the QSELECT is being attempted with all parts of the command string. If it won't work, I suppose I'll be reduced to writing up a stub of a program to do the same thing and just call it from the UniObjects side of things. But, if there's a better way, I'm all ears. Thanks, -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV on SCO Unix
I would not put ANYTHING on SCO. Have a look here http://www.groklaw.net and here http://yro.slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=88 for specifics. If you need a better HP server, consider purchasing a used machine that has come off lease. You may be surprised at how far 3k will go. If you must stay with Unix and pc type hardware, go with SuSE, Debian or Redhat. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Unix - Windoze Account(s) Move
I'm attempting to build up an archive copy of our finance system on Windows XP (Professional). The app normally runs on an HP Unix machine. So far I've been able to move the files, run fnuxi on them and gain rudimentary access to the data from the command prompt. What has me a bit stumped is that the application itself consists of several accounts full of little subroutines that don't seem to be linked in correctly. Is there a magic program that will fixup things like cataloged programs when an account is moved from Unix to Windoze?? Or should I go through each and every account and fix these myself? Thanks, -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV Setptr Question
I use a script that will send the print job to the printer and then convert it into a pdf and copy it over to a folder that is serviced by Apache (web server). That way, the reports are kept around in a form that is easily shared. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/27/04 01:22PM Hi, I have a few applications that produce daily reports. Every now and then, someone walks off with the print out . The report can not be recreated. Is it possible, via SETPTR (or some other setting), to print the report and keep a copy of the report on the print queue? I would not want the reports to accumulate on the queue, but instead get overwritten by the next day's report. Ideally I would like a non-programming solution I am running UV 9.6.2.5 Thanks. Jim ___ u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
