RE: D3 - Universe

2004-04-27 Thread Rick Ramsey
When you say 'access D3 files from UniVerse' it's not really clear what
you mean (copy files?  Real-time queries?)  For simple copying from one
MV system to another we've had good experience with AccuTerm
(www.asent.com) which is our terminal emulator, copying tool and GUI
enabler (with Nucleus from Binary Star).  I think you can get a free
trial copy of AccuTerm from their site.

Rick Ramsey

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Hi everyone

I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers. They
wish to be able to directly access D3 files from Universe. Does anyone
know the best (or any) way to do this.
D3 and Universe are running on Linux Redhat 9.

Barry Brooks
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RE: D3 - Universe

2004-04-27 Thread Ross Ferris
You MIGHT be able to use ODBC from UV, but ODBC with D3 has never been great - 
depending on volumes, there is always OSFI (on D3) being mapped to a UV type 19 file ?

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
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Hi everyone

I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers. They
wish to be able to directly access D3 files from Universe. Does anyone
know the best (or any) way to do this.
D3 and Universe are running on Linux Redhat 9.

Barry Brooks
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RE: D3 - Universe

2004-04-27 Thread Tony Gravagno
Barry Brooks asked:
I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers. 
They wish to be able to directly access D3 files from Universe. Does 
anyone know the best (or any) way to do this. D3 and Universe are 
running on Linux Redhat 9.

Ross Suggested:
You MIGHT be able to use ODBC from UV, but ODBC with D3 has 
never been great - depending on volumes, there is always 
OSFI (on D3) being mapped to a UV type 19 file ?

Sorry Ross, that won't work because the D3 ODBC client driver is Win32 only.
Barry said he's running on Linux.  Although he CAN create some code in a
Win32 middle-tier and use that as a hub between the Linux boxes.

Chuck suggested:
Set up the D3 files you need to access as FSI (external file
format) and point to them from UniVerse (SAMBA, VisionFS, or
 file mapping) as Type 19.

No... FSI doesn't work like that, FSI files are still mini blobs unto
themselves.  And here too, there is no FSI over Linux.


Barry - there are a few ways to do this, one of which might be to use
CallHTTP (or another HTTP call) from Universe and FlashCONNECT or a
home-grown HTTP interface with D3.  The solution will depend on how
transparent or tightly integrated you want these environments to be.  If you
want a READ in UV to read a record in D3 then some creative coding is
required, but it's possible.  I'll be happy to discuss solutions with you
for free but some coding/services will be required to make this happen.

Tony
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Former DBMS Product Manager, Raining Data, including D3.
Currently specializing in communications interfaces for MV platforms and
applications.

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RE: D3 - Universe

2004-04-27 Thread Barry Brooks
Thanks Rick

We are trying to achieve 'Real-Time, Online' enquiry to d3 files from
Universe.

Cheers ... Barry

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 Subject:  RE: D3 - Universe
 
 Thanks Rick
 
 We use wintegrate bridge copy to achieve copies of files but what we
 are attempting to do
 is real-time enquiry from Universe to D3 files
 
 Barry
 
 
 When you say 'access D3 files from UniVerse' it's not really clear
 what
 you mean (copy files?  Real-time queries?)  For simple copying from
 one
 MV system to another we've had good experience with AccuTerm
 (www.asent.com) which is our terminal emulator, copying tool and GUI
 enabler (with Nucleus from Binary Star).  I think you can get a free
 trial copy of AccuTerm from their site.
 
 Rick Ramsey
 
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 Hi everyone
 
 I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers.
 They
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 D3 and Universe are running on Linux Redhat 9.
 
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RE: D3 - Universe

2004-04-27 Thread Tony Gravagno
If all you want is to do is Access queries, then you can build the query,
then pass it to D3 through a combination of rlogin and d3tcl.  That's a
little cludgy.  Or, again, you can go through a Win32 middle-tier.  The
results can be returned to Universe through stdout or captured into a
variable for processing.  For large reports coming back, this will be an
issue and some code will need to be built around the request to page the
data back to Universe.

If you want to do this sort of thing on your own, then AccuTerm scripting
can be used to do the data exchanges.  The AccuTerm session doesn't need to
be on the same desktop as the user, and in fact you can have one system
doing the connectivity for many users.  This isn't elegant either, but a lot
of people like using familiar tools.

If you want a more elegant solution, then more coding is required.  We're
doing some development now which allows one MV platform to integrate very
closely with other MV platforms, almost seamlessly, but it's not ready yet.
If you're interested, please e-mail.

Tony
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Thanks Rick

We are trying to achieve 'Real-Time, Online' enquiry to d3 
files from Universe.

Cheers ... Barry

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 From:Rick Ramsey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: RE: D3 - Universe
 
 Thanks Rick
 
 We use wintegrate bridge copy to achieve copies of files but what we 
 are attempting to do is real-time enquiry from Universe to D3 files
 
 Barry
 
 
 When you say 'access D3 files from UniVerse' it's not really clear 
 what you mean (copy files?  Real-time queries?)  For simple copying 
 from one
 MV system to another we've had good experience with AccuTerm
 (www.asent.com) which is our terminal emulator, copying tool and GUI
 enabler (with Nucleus from Binary Star).  I think you can get a free
 trial copy of AccuTerm from their site.
 
 Rick Ramsey
 
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 I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers. 
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 D3 and Universe are running on Linux Redhat 9.
 
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Re: D3 - Universe

2004-04-27 Thread Trevor Ockenden
Barry

My suggestion is to set up a set a requester on the UV machine and a
responder on the D3 machine. By this I mean you write the Basic routines
that use say named pipes on one or other of the machines that allow for a
request of one machine, a suitable background process could then respond to
this request on the D3 machine etc. A little work but fun I dare say.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
Open Systems Professionals

PS This technique then allows for all sorts of requests that may go way
beyond Retrieve type requests.

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 Thanks Rick

 We are trying to achieve 'Real-Time, Online' enquiry to d3 files from
 Universe.

 Cheers ... Barry

  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Ramsey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 9:40 PM
  To: U2 Users Discussion List
  Subject: RE: D3 - Universe
 
  Thanks Rick
 
  We use wintegrate bridge copy to achieve copies of files but what we
  are attempting to do
  is real-time enquiry from Universe to D3 files
 
  Barry
 
 
  When you say 'access D3 files from UniVerse' it's not really clear
  what
  you mean (copy files?  Real-time queries?)  For simple copying from
  one
  MV system to another we've had good experience with AccuTerm
  (www.asent.com) which is our terminal emulator, copying tool and GUI
  enabler (with Nucleus from Binary Star).  I think you can get a free
  trial copy of AccuTerm from their site.
 
  Rick Ramsey
 
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  On Behalf Of Barry Brooks
  Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:59 AM
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  Subject: D3 - Universe
 
 
  Hi everyone
 
  I have a client who is running D3 and Universe on seperate servers.
  They
  wish to be able to directly access D3 files from Universe. Does anyone
  know the best (or any) way to do this.
  D3 and Universe are running on Linux Redhat 9.
 
  Barry Brooks
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