Re: [UV] VARIABLE-1 = and Basic Compile $OPTIONSEXTRA.DELIMwork consistently

2004-02-03 Thread gerry simpson



this is not exactly correct

while you are correct that the 3 statements result 
in 2 attributes,
the 2nd state does indeed have 
aneffect


A='abc' 
;* A=abc , len(A)=3
A-1='' 
;* A=abc:@FM , len(A)=4

A-1='def' 
;* A=abc:@FM:def , len(A)=7


when EXTRA.DELIM is used the results are 
:


A='abc' 
;* A=abc , len(A)=3
A-1='' 
;* A=abc:@FM , len(A)=4

A-1='def' 
;* A=abc:@FM:@FM:def , len(A)=8




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Louis 
  Windsor 
  To: U2 Users Discussion List 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:42 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [UV] VARIABLE-1 = "" 
  and Basic Compile "$OPTIONSEXTRA.DELIM"work "consistently"
  
  Sorry for jumping in without checking my facts 
  first.
  
  You are right the sequence
  
  A = 'abc'
  
  A-1 = ''
  A-1 = 'def'
  results in A having TWO attributes NOT 
  three. The second
  statement has no effect. This is as it 
  works on Windows XP Prof
  and the Personnel version of UniVerse. If 
  my memory serves me
  this is also how it works on UV9.6 on Unix 
  (HPUX). Again I think
  the statement A-1='' is always 
  ineffective. UV without over-
  riding options etc will never insert a null at 
  the end of a string variable.
  My experience is mainly with Pick 
  flavour.
  Louis
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Marco 
Manyevere 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:34 
PM
Subject: Re: [UV] VARIABLE-1 = 
"" and Basic Compile "$OPTIONS EXTRA.DELIM"work "consistently"


The same documentation goes on to say:


In INFORMATION and IN2 flavor accounts, if _expression_ is an empty string
and the new element is appended to the end of the dynamic 
array, the end of
a field, or the end of a value, a delimiter is appended to the 
dynamic array,
field, or value. Use the -EXTRA.DELIM option of the 
$OPTIONS 
statement
to make the REPLACE function work as it does in IDEAL, PICK, 
and
REALITY flavor accounts.
In my opinion this behaviour is still unexpectedand here 
is why I say so:
If Information behaves the same as PICK as you say, then the 
behaviour is still contrary to documentation because in the example I gave 
below, a @FM was still appended even if the string to be added was empty: 
i.e.
A = 'abc'
A-1 = ''
A-1 = 'def'
will result in 3 fields. According to the REPLACEextract 
you quoted,A-1 = '' should not add a field mark regardless of 
whether A is empty or not for PICK flavour.
Marco
Marco,As 
  some previous replies were saying, the behaviour you describe is 
  normaland documented. The explanation for this is found in the 
  "REPLACE" Basicfunction, which is the equivalent for the angle 
  brackets notation at theleft of an assignment operator ("=") for 
  dynamic arrays handling.For more information, please refer to the 
  Basic documentation manual (File"BASIC.pdf" in the CDROM 
  library)Here is an excerpt of the documentation 
  :REPLACE functionSyntaxREPLACE (_expression_, 
  field#, value#, subvalue# { , | ; } replacement)REPLACE (_expression_ [ 
  ,field# [ ,value#] ] ; replacement)variable  field# [ ,value# [ 
  ,subvalue#] ] .../...In IDEAL, PICK, PIOPEN, and REALITY 
  flavor accounts, if replacement is anempty string and an attempt is 
  made to append the new element to the endof the dynamic ar ray, field, 
  or value, the dynamic array, field, or valueis leftunchanged; 
  additional delimiters are not appended. Use the EXTRA.DELIMoption of 
  the $OPTIONS statement to make the REPLACE function appenda delimiter 
  to the dynamic array, field, or value/...The fact 
  is that "UniVerse" is mainly designed to reproduce the behaviourof 
  legacy products in the "Pick" family. In this case, the 
  implementationof the "INFORMATION" and "IDEAL" flavour followed the 
  default behaviour in"Pick" native products.I hope this 
  answered your question.Regards,Hervé 
  BALESTRIERISupport Technique Avancé - IBM Data Management - 
  Produits "U2"- Forwarded by Herve Balestrieri/France/IBM on 
  03/02/2004 09:35 -Marco Manyevere <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com cc: Sent by: Subject: 
  VARIABLE-1 = '' Inconsistent behaviour u2-users-bounces@ 
  oliver.com 03/02 /2004 05:55 Please respond to U2 
  Users Discussion List Hi 
  All,Consider the program:A = ''A-1 = 
  ''A-1 = ''A-1 = 3A-1 = 
  ''A-1 = 4PRINT A3I expect it output '3' 
  but it outputs '4'. Whats the explanation? I'm on UV9.6 [NT] running 
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Re: VARIABLE-1 = '' Inconsistent behaviour

2004-02-03 Thread gerry simpson
we use the A[x,]  as well as A[*,x,] constructs a lot - no
trailing characters/fields


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: VARIABLE-1 = '' Inconsistent behaviour


 I worked on an application that had:

 A=INSERT(A,1,-1;NEWVAL:@VM)

 and it was tricky. You should develop your own best approach to this
concept
 of managing manual delimiters.

 BTW, is the -1 necessary with A=A[2,LEN(A)-1]. For that matter, could you
 use A=A[2,1000]. My question is if the second value in [] exceeds the
 length of A are there any surprising trailing characters? I've used
 A=A[2,10] (or some knowingly high number) with no consequences over
the
 years.

 my 1 cent.
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:09 AM
 Subject: RE: VARIABLE-1 = '' Inconsistent behaviour


 One easy way I sometimes use is to just concatenate a field mark along
with
 the new value and then remove the first field mark at the end... eg.

 A = 
 LOOP
INPUT B
A := @FM:B
 UNTIL condition
 REPEAT
 A = A[2,LEN(A)-1]

 AdrianW

 -Original Message-
 From: Marco Manyevere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 3 February 2004 15:00
 To: U2 Users Discussion List
 Subject: Re: VARIABLE-1 = '' Inconsistent behaviour


 OK the documentation for REPLACE says something about inserting empty
 strings. For information flavour it does say the @FM will be added for
empty
 strings without making a distinction between adding to an empty or non
empty
 array.

 If this is a feature then it implies major code revisions for me whereever
I
 use the -1 construct. What would be the shortest/smartest way of adding
 strings including non significant nulls? I hate to do:

 A = ''
 
 
 INPUT B;  * May be empty
 IF LEN(B) THEN
A-1 = B
 END ELSE
IF LEN(A) THEN
   A-1 = B
END ELSE
   A = @FM
END
 END

 I have also tested

 A1 = ''
 A2 = ''
 A3 = 3
 A4 = ''
 A5 = 5

 and it inserts the @FM as expected but this involves maintaining a counter
 for the dynamic array.

 Louis Windsor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think this is a feature.

 Universe does NOT insert non-significant nulls.  In other words your first
 two
 (A-1 = '') do not do anything!  It is consistent in its' behaviour as
you
 can
 count on it to do the above.  It has done this as long as I remember.

 I found this out through bitter experience.

 Louis


 - Original Message -
 From: Marco  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Manyevere
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 12:55 PM
 Subject: VARIABLE-1 = '' Inconsistent behaviour

 Hi All,

 Consider the program:

 A = ''
 A-1 = ''
 A-1 = ''
 A-1 = 3
 A-1 = ''
 A-1 = 4
 PRINT A3

 I expect it output '3' but it outputs '4'. Whats the explanation? I'm on
UV
 9.6 [NT] running information flavour.

 Regards,
 Marco




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uv connectivity list archive

2004-02-24 Thread gerry simpson
2 questions that I know have been answered here before :

  1) what facilities are available to access external databases ( SQL Server
etc. ) from within uniVerse ?

  2) where is the archive for this list and how do we search it ?

gerry

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Re: odbc client hangs

2004-02-26 Thread gerry simpson
Hi John,

I don't think so , the client is connecting to the server and getting most
of the way through the connection process according to the server log.
I would think that a DNS problem would cause no connection to be made at all
and a time out error to occur - which does happen as expected if the VPN
client is not running or a bogus server is supplied
I would also expect this to happen with both machines.
My guess is that some dll or other component has gotten corrupted somewhere
although I have no idea which that might be.
For now I have moved my development efforts from the problem machine to the
OK machine as my dev machine will be getting a re-install shortly.

gerry


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From: John Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: odbc client hangs



 two-pennorth
 Any chance this relates to DNS lookup or doamin authentication??
 /two-pennorth

 Regards

 JayJay

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of gerry simpson
 Sent: 26 February 2004 16:52
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: odbc client hangs

 I have uvpe 10.0.4 and uvodbc 3.7 installed on a w2k server.

 I had been able to establish connections to a remote universe installation
(
 hpux 11 uv 10 ) using  uvodbc through a vpn connection.
 somewhere along the line things have gone wrong.

 now when i try to connect to the remote server , even just do a test via
 odbc config , the client hangs and the cpu usage goes to 100% and stays
 there indefinately.
 if i try to connect to the local universe server ( same machine ) the
 connection goes through but takes much too long and still takes 100% cpu
 until the connection is established.

 i tried disabling all universe services , uninstalling odbc client ,
 rebooting  reinstalling odbc client all to no effect.
 I have another w2ks setup which has no problem at all connecting to the
same
 remote universe installation - this second machine however does not have
 universe installed on it.
 all uv related dlls I have looked at are the same version on both
machines.

 turning server log on from both clients shows that the client is hanging
 just after the server has responded to the GetInfo request and the server
is
 left sitting Reading synchronization token ... until the client resets
the
 connection - which happens of course when the client process is
 cancelled/killed.

 the archive mentions this problem as having been fixed in odbc 3.7

 anyone seen this or have any suggestions ?

 gerry

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Re: [UV] Trigger FILE parameter

2004-03-01 Thread gerry simpson
Hi Ray ,

this does not work. LIST.SICA always lists the file name as it was when the
1st trigger was created even if the triggers are dropped and recreated.




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Subject: Re: [UV] Trigger FILE parameter


 The only way to modify the SICA after a CNAME is to drop the trigger and
create it afresh.

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Re: Two ways to acquire the U2 Tech Support Survival Kit CD

2004-03-02 Thread gerry simpson
Hi Wally,

what about those who won't be able to attend these show ?

gerry



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Subject: RE: Two ways to acquire the U2 Tech Support Survival Kit CD


Hi Wally,

What about us down here? Is it available outside the US?

Thanks

David Logan
Database Administrator
HP Managed Services
139 Frome Street,
Adelaide 5000
Australia

+61 8 8408 4273
+61 417 268 665



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Limited supplies will be available at the IBM booth at two upcoming
conferences:

Spectrum
Datatel Users Group  (U2 partner)

Both conferences are the week of March 14.

I know many of you plan to attend Spectrum.  There are also a number of
Datatel clients who post to this list, as well.

Drop by the IBM booth!

ps - I will also be speaking at the Datatel Users Group conference on
Sunday March 14 - 10:00am - 12:15 pm.
Then lounging around until a 4:30 round table session. Stop by and say
hello...

Wally Terhune
Manager - U2 Advanced Technical Support
IBM Data Management Solutions
Tel: 303.294.4866 Fax: 303.294.4832
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UV losing print characters

2004-03-02 Thread gerry simpson
hi ,

a client has reported that they are randomly  infrequently having
characters dropped from print jobs.
this recently happened during an invoice run where a tax value of 1147.90
was printed as 117.90 - the invoice total printed correctly, the invoice
data on file has the correct value and a reprint shows the correct value.

I am thinking that this is
- a problem with the printer in question ( i am not yet sure if this is
a single printer issue or not )
- a problem with a network connection
- an issue to be raised with either IBM or HP

has anyone seen this happen before ?

gerry

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Re: UV losing print characters

2004-03-03 Thread gerry simpson
thanks for the reply martin.


- Original Message - 
From: Martin Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: UV losing print characters


 The most common cause of this in my experience is incorrect use of flow
 control with serial printers.

 For the non-techies (are there any on this list?)  Your UV system can
 probably produce data faster than the printer can handle it so it needs a
 way to say stop!.  There are fundamentally two techniques in use though
 there are variants.

 The first technique uses one of the wires in the printer cable (DTR - Data
 Terminal Ready), to say stop/go.  The other technique sends a character
 (X-OFF, Ctrl-S) from the printer to the computer to say stop and (X-ON,
 Ctrl-Q) to say go.  (If you've ever wondered why this works on most
terminal
 output processes, they often do the same).

 If your computer is set up to use DTR but your printer is expecting to use
 X-OFF/X-ON, the system is not going to stop sending data when required and
 you lose characters.  Obviously, the same happens if the settings are the
 other way around too.

 A variation on this which is more difficult to find is that not some low
 cost serial cables don't have a DTR wire.  So, you printer says stop but
 this never gets to the other end of the cable.

 You say that this is an infrequent problem.  Although that makes this sort
 of scenario less likely, it can still happen because many modern printers
 have buffers large enough to hold quite big print jobs.

 Martin Phillips
 Ladybridge Systems
 17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4 6DB
 +44-(0)1604-709200

 - Original Message - 
 From: gerry simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: UV losing print characters


  a client has reported that they are randomly  infrequently having
  characters dropped from print jobs.
  this recently happened during an invoice run where a tax value of
1147.90
  was printed as 117.90 - the invoice total printed correctly, the invoice
  data on file has the correct value and a reprint shows the correct
value.
 
  I am thinking that this is
  - a problem with the printer in question ( i am not yet sure if this
 is
  a single printer issue or not )
  - a problem with a network connection
  - an issue to be raised with either IBM or HP
 
  has anyone seen this happen before ?
 
  gerry

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SQL Server , UniOLEDB subtables

2004-03-08 Thread gerry simpson
we have set up universe 10  in SQL Server 2K as a linked database via
UniOLEDB.

we have a test file set up that consists of 2 single valued fields  2 multi
valued fields

at the universe command prompt we can access both the table and the virtual
table for the multi values :
SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB ;
@IDS1  S2M1 M2
AAA   A   B CD
  G   H
BBB I J K   L
 M N
 O  P

SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB_MV ;
@IDM1 M2  @ASSOC_ROW
AAA   CD 1
G   H 2
BBBK   L  1
MN2
O P3


in SQL Server the following works just fine - we get the expected 2 row
table with the columns @ID , S1  S2 :
SELECT * FROM OPENQUERY( [UVCON] , 'SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB')

however any attempt to access the sub table :
SELECT * FROM OPENQUERY( [UVCON] , 'SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB_MV')
pretty much causes the pc to come grinding to a halt - cpu usage goes to
100%, connection activity stops and we have to restart SQL Server to abort
the select.
I have not been able to locate any type of error info either in uv or on the
pc.

I tried double quoting the table name assuming this was a problem with the _
character  - no effect
In the linked database properties I set a query timeout of 30 seconds and a
connection timeout of 30 seconds but I have let this query run for 10
minutes without getting any timeout errors.

any ideas ?

does universe keep any type of log for oleDB access - i can't find one to
see if the request is even getting to universe.

gerry

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another try - DELETE uv data from SQL Server via oleDB

2004-03-09 Thread gerry simpson
ok - so i'll take another 2 tracks with this one.

with universe set up in SQL Server as a linked database using unioledb :

1.   how do we DELETE from a uv table ?

  DELETE FROM [LINKEDUVDB]...[TAB1] WHERE [FLD1] = 'SOMEVAL'
  DELETE FROM [LINKEDUVDB]...[TAB1]  SELECT [EMAIL PROTECTED] FROM 
[LINKEDUVDB]...[TAB1]
WHERE [FLD1]='SOMEVAL'
  DELETE FROM [LINKEDUVDB]...[TAB1] WHERE [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN ( SELECT [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] FROM
[LINKEDUVDB]...[TAB1] WHERE [FLD1]='SOMEVAL')

all generate :
  Server: Msg 7306, Level 16, State 2, Line 1
  Could not open table 'TAB1' from OLE DB provider 'IBM.UniOLEDB'.  The
provider could not support a row lookup position.

why is this ?
I would have though that all universe tables have a unique column (row
lookup position) in @ID ?


  select *  from openquery([ODBC-BASIC] , 'DELETE FROM TAB1 WHERE FLD1 =
''SOMEVAL''')
results in this 'informative' message :
  Server: Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
  OLE DB provider 'IBM.UniOLEDB' reported an error. The provider did not
give any information about the error.

2 .   does anyone know how to execute a universe subroutine/command  ?

  select *  from openquery([ODBC-BASIC] , '*X'')
  select *  from openquery([ODBC-BASIC] , 'CALL *X'')
  select *  from openquery([ODBC-BASIC] , '{CALL *X}'')
all result in :
  Server: Msg 7399, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
  OLE DB provider 'IBM.UniOLEDB' reported an error. The provider did not
give any information about the error.
this seems to be the case for any statment other than SELECT

  exec [LINKEDUVDB]...[*X]
results in :
  Server: Msg 7212, Level 17, State 1, Line 1
  Could not execute procedure '*X' on remote server 'ODBC-BASIC'.



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Re: SQL Server , UniOLEDB subtables

2004-03-09 Thread gerry simpson
Thanks  David

the docs 'explain' how to enable server side uci logging via the
UVHOME/serverdebug file
this file doesn not currently exist and no format beyond 'column' values is
given.
do you know what the format of this file is ?
what delimits a column , space , comma , tab  , colon ? i've tried all 4 but
have yet to see a debug log file appear.
do we have to restart uci/uv to have changes take effect ?

gerry



 - Original Message - 
 From: Hona, David S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:26 AM
 Subject: RE: SQL Server , UniOLEDB  subtables


 
  I suggest you read-up on how to enable the UCI logging feature. As
 UniOLEDB
  uses UCI to communicate with UV.
 
  See 'Administrative Supplement for Client APIs' pages 3-21 and 3-22.
 
  Of course, this will just help with issues at the UV end.
 
  Regards
  David
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
  Behalf Of gerry simpson
  Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:38 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: SQL Server , UniOLEDB  subtables
 
 
  we have set up universe 10  in SQL Server 2K as a linked database via
  UniOLEDB.
 
  we have a test file set up that consists of 2 single valued fields  2
 multi
  valued fields
 
  at the universe command prompt we can access both the table and the
 virtual
  table for the multi values : SELECT * FROM TEST.TAB ;
  [snip]
 
  any ideas ?
 
  does universe keep any type of log for oleDB access - i can't find one
to
  see if the request is even getting to universe.
 
  gerry
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Re: Mvquery Client Not Responding

2004-03-13 Thread gerry simpson
lol - you tell 'em Will
i think i might join you at that


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Subject: Re: Mvquery Client Not Responding


 In a message dated 3/11/2004 8:12:17 AM Pacific Standard Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  1. Please do not post mvQuery questions to this list. Either send them
to
  your mvQuery supplier, or to mvquery support.

 I'm going to buy mvQuery just so I can post twelve questions a day on it
to
 this list.
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testing

2004-03-22 Thread gerry simpson
sorry - please ignore
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