Re: [Ubuntu] UbuntuGIS PSC Creation
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Ivan Mincik ivan.min...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Alan, at first thank You for Your work (and also for work of others in this project). I am following UbuntuGIS for some time and I started to maintain my own PPA fork [1] some time ago, because I needed full control of packages. I am little bit involved in packaging. Here is my opinion: 1. This project definitely needs a strong leader with experience. 2. UbuntuGIS lacks clear roadmap. Maybe it is loosing skilled hands just because they are not aware about fact they are needed. Preparing roadmap must by one of the most important tasks of project leader and PSC. 3. Other very important task is clearly stated work flow in terms how to cooperate with Debian on regular basis. 4. Still at least by my opinion, the PPA naming stable, testing, unstable is very confusing for all newcomers which automatically expect the same behavior as in Debian. If this schema remains the same, or it will change to something other, it needs clearly documented workflow how packages migrates from testing, staging to production and how often and under which circumstances production packages are upgraded. 5. As in other voluntary projects, there is a lack of manpower. But on the other hand, there are no rules which new contributors or uploaders must meet. Also I do not see any list of free tasks for new people. 6. The last one is the question if there is some possibility to get some support from OSGeo [2] ? Ivan, The most obvious way in which OSGeo could show support is by having UbuntuGIS apply for incubation as an OSGeo project. Having a PSC is one step on the way to being a full fledged OSGeo project. There is also some possibility of financial support from OSGeo for UbuntuGIS but at the very least there would need to be a clear plan before any financial commitment might be made (IMHO). Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] UbuntuGIS PSC Creation
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Ivan Mincik ivan.min...@gmail.com wrote: Some time ago I was pointed by somebody to that wiki page about 'OSGeo Binary Distributions'. I have realized that until now there is no official, up-to-date and well maintained GIS packages distribution for Linux which OSGeo can recommend as the number one. I really appreciate very much the work of Debian|Ubuntu GIS people, but it is still only very good voluntary. To be successful in enterprise deployment one needs predictable and stable maintenance of packages, something similar as 'OpenGeo Suite' is. Isn't that one of the goals of OSGeo ? What if UbuntuGIS would be that official packages distribution for OSGeo ? As Frank said, it is even possible to get some financial support once the project is accepted in to incubator. I think that there should be much more other benefits to exist under trusted organization. Ivan, I'm not convinced I accept your premise, but even if one does accept the premise then folks have options including professional support contracts. I do think that bringing more energy to DebianGIS and UbuntuGIS with an eye towards stability and predictability would be valuable. But I don't accept that a volunteer effort is inadequate to the needs of enterprise deployment. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] proj 4.8.0 in ubuntugis
Folks, For what it's worth, I don't see any great harm in projects.h getting installed along side proj_api.h in debian and ubuntu. I'm quite regretting my efforts to treat projects.h as private. Best regards, Frank On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody reacted so I'd like to raise this again. This error is currently blocking saga from re-entering ubuntugis for versions precise and up. Johan On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Since the update to version 4.8.0 the proj package no longer contains the file projects.h . (from changelog: ) * Modified libproj-dev.install to remove nad_list.h and projects.h . However this causes problems for eg saga gis and Geo::proj4 which uses this file. See bug report and discussion here: http://sourceforge.net/p/saga-gis/bugs/145/ and here: https://trac.osgeo.org/proj/ticket/159 I would suggest that we keep this files in the development package until upstream defines the right way to access these data. [As a alternative solution we could also create a package libproj-private-dev containing these files.] Johan ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] Noob question: Does GDAL in the UbuntuGIS (or universe/science) packages have GRIB2 support?
Rick, GRIB support is in the default GDAL build. You can confirm it's presence like this: warmerdam@gdal:~$ gdalinfo --format grib Format Details: Short Name: GRIB Long Name: GRIdded Binary (.grb) Extension: grb Help Topic: frmt_grib.html Supports: Virtual IO - eg. /vsimem/ In any event, the warning/error messages make it clear the GRIB code is in play, but something about your file is not working with the existing GRIB code. BTW, I was able to translate your file to GeoTIFF successfully though I also see the message about not finding GRIB or TLDP. Best regards, Frank On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Rick Wayne fewa...@wisc.edu wrote: Hi y'all, I am struggling with getting some GRIB2 files, obtained from an upstream provider, into PostGIS. The error messages I'm receiving (and they're pretty much the same whether I invoke raster2pgsql, gdal_retile.py, or gdalinfo on the file) certainly imply that the GDAL driver knows something about GRIB: gdalinfo test.grib2 Warning: Inside GRIB2Inventory, Message # 2 ERROR: Couldn't find 'GRIB' or 'TDLP' There were 4 trailing bytes in the file. Driver: GRIB/GRIdded Binary (.grb) On the other hand, running gdalinfo and perusing its the following format drivers are configured and support output lines, .grb/GRIB does not appear. Currently I have gdal-bin 1.7.3-6ubuntu3 from universe/science and libgdal1-1.7.0 from universe/libs installed. So either GRIB2 support is there and my file is somehow incompatible (if you care to have a look, it's at http://www.soils.wisc.edu/~wayne/test.grib2, and wgrib2 works just fine with it), it's not there, or it's there but only for GDAL input, not output. If I need to upgrade, or replace my current packages with the UbuntuGIS ones, I can certainly do that. But I'm reluctant to embark on that project -- or, say, building everything from source -- unless I have a pretty clear problem diagnosis, which I don't have the experience to puzzle out in a reasonable amount of time. Thanks for your help. This was supposed to be so easy! Heh. Rick Wayne Sr. Systems Programmer UW Soil Science ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
Re: [Ubuntu] imagemagick gdal ?
On 12-04-21 07:32 AM, Heikki Julkunen wrote: First, thanks all for a great set of tools! Anyway, I've seen this mentioned in a post elsewhere, but there was no reply. I'm not sure who to 'blame', gdal or imagemagick, but it seems like the alpha channel embedded by imagemagick is NOT compatible with gdal. The transparency is NOT used. (since imagemagick has no clue about geo-data after image processing I use geotifcp to add that). Example: gdalinfo bad-example.tif geo meta removed Band 1 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Red Band 2 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Green Band 3 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Blue Band 4 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Undefined A working file looks like this: gdalinfo good-example.tif geo meta removed Band 1 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Red Mask Flags: PER_DATASET ALPHA Band 2 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Green Mask Flags: PER_DATASET ALPHA Band 3 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Blue Mask Flags: PER_DATASET ALPHA Band 4 Block=10020x1 Type=Byte, ColorInterp=Alpha I.e, it seems like the alpha from imagemagick is global but gdal expects a per dataset alpha ? Heikki, This would likely be better pursued on the gdal-dev mailing list, but it is not possible to evaluate without seeing the tiffinfo report for the file in question. It may be an associated vs. unassociated alpha problem. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://home.gdal.org/warmerda and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
[Ubuntu] Binaries Packaging - A Strategic Investment
Folks, I've mentioned this before, and I don't have anything surprising to add now. I just wanted to bump this topic. I believe that producing good quality integrated distributions of OSGeo binary software for a major user platforms is strategically important for OSGeo and would be worth an investment of moderate amounts of money to promote. For me two packaging efforts stick out, though I might be biased. 1) OSGeo4W - I think the Windows environment is (still?) very important and OSGeo4W is a credible community effort to satisfy it that could benefit from more involvement, polish and a broader package set. 2) Debian/Ubuntu/LiveDVD - I believe that Ubuntu is today the dominant desktop/server linux system and that the packaging efforts of the DebianGIS, UbuntuGIS and LiveDVD groups build on one another and provide high impact. If board members or community members see high impact and reasonably priced opportunities to extend these efforts with OSGeo money I hope they will come forward with them. I'd also like to see us do more on the OSGeo web site, with case studies, etc to promote these package suites in a manner appropriate to their level of readiness. I also think the MacOS environment is very important but I'm not entirely clear on the best way of addressing that. Good ideas on this aspect are also welcome. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://home.gdal.org/warmerda and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
[Ubuntu] Re: [osgeo4w-dev] Binaries Packaging - A Strategic Investment
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: I spy a GSOC project idea: Packaging automation a guide to train new packagers based on the automated system. Maybe with Frank and Alan as mentors? Alex, Unfortunately my understanding is that GSoC is quite focused on actual code development and I think the above would not be considered suitable as a project. Should we also consider doing a packaging session at the sprint at Foss4gNA? Alan will you be there to teach packaging for debian/ubuntu? I like this idea, though I won't be there. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush | Geospatial Software Developer ___ UbuntuGIS mailing list Ubuntu@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki
