Re: Snap packages

[Tom Masterson]

You can run snap --help (or man snap) to get all the availabel commands. 
However to install is "snap install ".


Tom

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019, Vojtěch Šmiro wrote:


Hello.


How to install these types of packages? I have some apps in snap format 
and I don't know how to install them. I can only extract them with 
File-roler.



Thanks a lot.


Best regards


Vojta.


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firefox 58, orca and 16.04

[Tom Masterson]

I need suggestions on where to look.  Firefox on my system stopped working 
with orca after the last update (no setting changed) and my wife tells me 
that it is working properly as far as sighted people are concerned.  All 
other applications that I run from the desktop appear to be working 
correctly with orca (not that I run many).  I have found a couple of 
people on the orca list who are not having an issue with firefox, 16.04 
and orca.


Any help will be much appreciated.
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Re: [orca-list] Problems with orca and updated Ubuntu 16.04

[Tom Masterson]

Yes accessibility stack is running before firefox is started.  I don't 
normally run thunderbird as I use alpine for email but thunderbird does 
work.  When I bring up firefox there is no speech and no braille.


Tom

On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Peter Vágner wrote:



Hello,

Have you started orca before starting Firefox or is Firefox not accessible for 
you eventhough you are sure Orca and the rest of the accessibility stack is 
running
prior to starting Firefox?
Are you also running Thunderbird? Is Thunderbird working fine for you?
If you restart Firefox is it still lacking accessibility support?
Greetings

Peter


Dňa 27. 1. 2018 20:53 používateľ "Tom Masterson" <kd7...@gmail.com> napísal:
  Thanks for the help.  Orca is now working everywhere but firefox.  Not 
sure what is happening with that.  Turns out something was not working in the 
sound
  system and a reboot fixed it.

  Tom


  On Fri, 26 Jan 2018, Peter Vágner wrote:

Hello,

Can you access that PC remotely to trouble shoot? Does other audio 
such as system bell play? Can you blindly try running
espeak hello
spd-say hello
or similar to discover if speech is working fine?
If all this appears to be working are you sure orca is running?

Greetings

Peter


2018-01-26 18:29 GMT+01:00 Tom Masterson <kd7...@gmail.com>:
      I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with all the latest updates.  Under 
either mate or Ubuntu Default orca comes up and works with my braille
display in some
      circumstances but there is no speech.  It does not work with 
even my braille display under firefox.  The only oddity I see in syslog or
other places is
      the following line.

      Jan 26 09:23:34 Tom-M2800 console-kit-daemon[5024]: 
(process:7120): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size 
== 0'
failed

      Does anyone on these lists have suggestions?

      Tom
      ___
      orca-list mailing list
      orca-l...@gnome.org
      https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
      Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
      Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
      GNOME Universal Access guide: 
https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
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Problems with orca and updated Ubuntu 16.04

[Tom Masterson]

I am running Ubuntu 16.04 with all the latest updates.  Under either mate 
or Ubuntu Default orca comes up and works with my braille display in some 
circumstances but there is no speech.  It does not work with even my 
braille display under firefox.  The only oddity I see in syslog or other 
places is the following line.


Jan 26 09:23:34 Tom-M2800 console-kit-daemon[5024]: (process:7120): 
GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed

Does anyone on these lists have suggestions?

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Re: Brltty 5.4 backported to Xenial.

[Tom Masterson]

I just upgraded to brltty 5.4 from the ppa and am still seeing problems. 
The system does not want to recognize my usb-to-serial and there is more 
than one copy of brltty running.


Results of "ps -aux | grep brltty":
root  2682  0.1  0.2 399444  9616 ?D
Hi all.
As some of you are experiencing problems with BrlTTY, I decided to go ahead
and backport 5.4 from yakkety to xenial. As per usual, these packages are
available from the Ubuntu Accessibility dev PPA,
https://launchpad.net/~accessibility-dev/+archive/ppa. BrlTTy will be built
and available shortly.

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Brltty question

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I seem to have two copies of brltty running.  From ps -aux command I get:
root  3050  0.2  0.1 333892  7188 ?DThis seems to be causing great confusion for the OS and causing problems 
with my usb ports.  If I try to kill the one with the -n -p options it 
gets restarted.


Can anyone tell me why this is happening and what I can do about it?

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Possible problem with brltty

[Tom Masterson]

I am running Ubuntu 16.04 using brltty with a Varioulta 40 cell display. 
I have 4 consoles open and of course the desktop (I prefer working at the 
console to using terminals).


I see the following in my syslog which appears to be causing issues with 
using a usb-to-serial converter among other things.  Can anyone tell me 
what is causing these messages and what the solution is?



Aug 23 11:51:10 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:10 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1601.748128] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:10 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:10 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:10 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:15 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:15 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1606.796074] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:15 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:15 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:15 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:20 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:20 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:20 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:20 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:20 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1611.793902] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:25 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:25 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:25 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:25 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:25 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1616.797770] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:30 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:30 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:30 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:30 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:30 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1621.796714] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:35 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:35 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1626.791619] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:35 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:35 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:35 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:40 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:40 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:40 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:40 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:40 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1631.792459] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:45 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:45 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:45 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:45 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:45 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1636.792486] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:50 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: Device 
or resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:50 Tom-M2800 kernel: [ 1641.791259] usb 3-6: usbfs: interface 0 
claimed by usbfs while 'brltty' sets config #1
Aug 23 11:51:50 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface in use: 0 (usbfs)
Aug 23 11:51:50 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: possible cause: another brltty process 
may be accessing the same device
Aug 23 11:51:50 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB interface claim error 16: Device or 
resource busy.
Aug 23 11:51:55 Tom-M2800 brltty[8283]: USB configuration set error 16: 

Re: Chirp Software, next problem

[Tom Masterson]

You might want to post the question on the chirp users list.  I suspect there 
may be people there who have had this issue.

Tom

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 13, 2016, at 07:50, Glenn / Lenny  wrote:
> 
> I have a follow-up to my previous post, below, I would like to add that this 
> cable works with Chirp in my Windows 7 computer, but accessibility is so bad, 
> it is frustrating to use, as you have to find things with routing the jaws 
> cursor, then getting where you want, and then routing the PC cursor, and so 
> on.
> But I know that this should work in my Ubuntu, as I did the command
> lsUSB
> and it showed the device on USB hub 001 and it was listed as USB 017 
> manufacturer Prolific.
> So I know now that Ubuntu is seeing the cable.
> I tried all the TTY options including USB0.
> This computer has only USB-3 ports, and I wonder if Chirp may have problems 
> with USB-3, or perhaps the cable has difficulty on USB-3?
> Usually computers are backward-compatible, so I don't think that is the 
> problem.
> I even went so far as to try:
> chmod 777 /dev/USB
> but that did not help.
> Thanks for any assistance.
> Glenn 
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:17:36 -0500
> From: "Glenn / Lenny" 
> To: 
> Subject: Chirp Software, next problem
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Hi All,
> Thanks for the assistance so far.
> It seems that I have permission to my USB port for programming the radio 
> after going through setting the dialout command.
> But I have a new problem and I wonder if it is the lack of a driver for this 
> USB cable.
> The error is:
> an error has occurred
> failure to communicate with radio
> serial object has no attribute
>  'setTimeout'
> 
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xblapi from accessibility ppa

[Tom Masterson]

I am running 14.04 with updates from the accessibility ppa.  I notinced 
this morning that my computer was working fairly hard and I was on the 
other sde of the room.  When I ran top I found that xbrlapi was using 99 
percent of cpu.  Any ideas of why this would be happening?


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Re: At-spi/atk 2.18 and Orca 3.18 available in Ubuntu accessibility dev PPA.

[Tom Masterson]

I am using 14.04 so there may be a difference there.

Tom

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:


Hi Tom.
Thanks for the quick answer.
One thing that I forgot to mention is that he is using ubuntu 15.04.

On 09/29/2015 11:24 AM, Tom Masterson wrote:
It is working on mine.  I won't say it is perfect but it works more or less 
like the precededing version did.  I have no idea how many of the problems 
I see may be because I am using 12 or 13 year old hardware.


Tom

On Tue, 29 Sep 2015, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:


Hi all.
I have a friend who tried to use the PPA but according to him, the orca 
was completely silent after the upgrade.

Someone had a similar experience ?
Thanks.

On 09/23/2015 02:27 AM, Luke Yelavich wrote:

Hey folks.
This is just a quick message to let you know that the latest stable GNOME
accessibility stack will be available shortly in the Ubuntu Accessibility 

dev
PPA, found at http://ppa.launchpad.net/~accessibility-dev/+archive/ppa. 

This
update includes at-spi2-core, at-spi2-atk and pyatspi, as well as atk, 
all
at version 2.18. In addition, Orca has been updated to version 3.18. 
These

updates are available for Ubuntu versions 14.04, 15.04, and the soon to
be released 15.10.

To add the PPA from the command line, do the following:
1. sudo apt-add-repository ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa
2. sudo apt-get update
3. sudo apt-get upgrade

That should get you the latest goodies.

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accessiblity-dev ppa

[Tom Masterson]

I am running ubuntu 14.04.3 and have upgraded the accessibility to the 
version in this ppa.  I notice that now I have problems runnig a console 
using strictly brltty.  Once unity has come up (or evne the login screen) 
it will not show me things in a console unless I restart brltty.  THis 
also occurs if I am in a console and something changes on the unity 
desktop such as the screensaver becoming active.  THis was not happening 
before I upgraded to the ppa versions.


A simple example is to shut down the computer, bring it back up and once 
it gets to the login screen just try a ctrl-alt-f1 to go to the first 
console.  In my case it continues to show the unity login screen. To see 
teh console I have to login from memory and then restart brltty.


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Firefox

[Tom Masterson]

Hi

I am using Ubuntu 14.04 and just updted firefox a couple late last week. 
When I try to run it now I get some form of crash report that I can't read 
and if I look at a console it is thrwing multiple disk read errors.  I 
have run fsck and it tells me my disk is fine.  Any ideas on how I can 
find the real problem or how to resolve this one?


Thanks
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Libreoffice question

[Tom Masterson]

This may be slightly off topic but...

When ever I bring up a .docx file in libreoffice if I try to save that 
document as a docx again it looses a lot of content.  I brought up a 
document today that was 513k before I opened it, did nothing to it, saved 
it again, and it was 16k.  I am using Ubuntu 14.04.3 lts.  Has anyone else 
seen this behavior and do you know of a solution?


Thanks
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14.10 and orca

[Tom Masterson]

I upgraded to 14.10 and now I don't have orca anymore.  I can not get it 
to come up on login or once I get to the desktop.  I am not seeing any 
errors in the logs that I recognize.  Any ideas?


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davmail/systray icons question

[Tom Masterson]

I am having to hook my email client to an exchange servr.  For a number or 
reasons I am using either alpine or mutt for email (I find them easier to 
use than the gui ones).  This involves using davmail.


Davmail when running just dumps a systry icon on the desktop.  How can I 
access this icon with orca under unity?  I am running Ubuntu 12.04.


If anyone has a better solution than davmail I would welcome that as well.

Thanks
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Re: unity accessibility issues

[Tom Masterson]

I use an Alva BC640 and have the same lock up problems.  It happens both 
in the desktop and at the console (I work primarily at the console).  The 
only solution I have found is to shut down the display (power it off or 
unplug it from the usb) and then reconnect.  After that it works fine 
again.  However this tells me it is not a unity problem perse but some 
thing in the underlying system be it a kernel issue or a brltty issue.  I 
have not done a full investigation nor reported it to the brltty fols yet 
to see if they are experiencing it.


Tom


On Mon, 16 Jun 2014, oskar palmgren wrote:


hi.

i am using ubuntu 14.04. i have found some problems in it.

first the dash doesn't work. this problem has been reported earlier from 
others.


second i have some problems with braille. sometimes my braille display locks 
for some reason. i can't use the buttons on the display to go 40 characters 
forward. i use an baum supervario.


third i can't read the battery percent and time ramaining in braille, but it 
is spoken. i mostly relay on braille som it would be good if it worked.


i don't know if i should report these bugs somewhere else or if it is enough 
if i write here.


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14.04, orca, brltty

[Tom Masterson]

Starting especially yesterday but off and on since I updated to 14.04 orca 
has stopped working with the braille display.  I see nothing in any of the 
logs that gives a clue as to what is happening.


When I get to the log in screen everything is working fine.  When it goes 
to the desktop braille is no longer working.  Sometimes a reboot of the 
machine does help.


I am also noticing odd behavior at the console where occasionally my 
display cursor movement keys do not work or all of a sudden it will decide 
to just run everything to the bottom of the screen like I was holding down 
the down key on the display.  The only way I have found to resolve these 
issues is to disconnect and reconnect the display and/or restart brltty. 
My display is an Alve BC640.


Tom

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LTS release

[Tom Masterson]

Does anyone know when the 14.04 release should be up on the release update 
site?  I would like to be able to use do-release-upgrade to upgrade to the 
new LTS release but it is not available yet.


Thanks
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Ubuntu 12.04 and firefox

[Tom Masterson]

Is the latest version of firefox usable under 12.04 with the standard orca 
that comes with 12.04?  I know firefox 25 a.d 26 had issues and thought I 
would ask about 27 before I install it and have to go through the work of 
reverting.


Thanks
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What IM client works best

[Tom Masterson]

I have been using pidgin for quite a while now but some changes to 
libpurple has made it not work with openfire which is what we use here at 
work.  I am finding problems with gajim and empathy although that may be 
me.  I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.


Gajim seems to lock up my desktop on a fairly regular basis and I am not 
finding a way to read messages people send in empathy and also it is not 
showing all my contacts and I can't seem to get to the accounts stuff.


Any thoughts?
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network card problem

[Tom Masterson]

Yes I know this is probably not the list for this but it is the best I 
have at the moment.


Over the weekend I did an update on an older dell laptop running 12.04. 
It has been doing fine with that os until now.  After the update when I 
rebooted it is no longer loading the modules for the BCM4401-B0 ethernet 
card whic means that of course that computer no longer has access to any 
network.


Can anyone think of any reason this may have happened and if there is a 
solution to it.  I have done a serch of the internet especially ubuntu and 
found no information.


Thanks
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Re: network card problem

[Tom Masterson]

Looks like all the headers are there.  For some reason I have yet to 
figure out bcmwl blacklisted pretty much every broadcom module.  Still 
tryi8ng to figure that one out and of course it kills it for the earlier 
versions of kernels as well so...  I may have to rebuild the box from cd 
but I really don't want to do that as I can't back up the data on it.


Tom

On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:


Hi.
If memory serves me, I had a similar problem when I used Ubuntu 12.10.

Not sure, but I think the problem was caused by lack of installation of 
header files from the new kernel, which prevented the compilation of 
modules related to this card.


Look for a package named linux-kernel-headers, linux-headers  or 
something of that sort and see if it is installed. I am not sure about 
the correct name.
If it is installed, check if the installed version is compatible with 
the version of the kernel.


Hope that helps.
Thanks.
On 01/29/2013 03:08 PM, Tom Masterson wrote:

Yes I know this is probably not the list for this but it is the best I
have at the moment.

Over the weekend I did an update on an older dell laptop running 12.04.
It has been doing fine with that os until now.  After the update when I
rebooted it is no longer loading the modules for the BCM4401-B0 ethernet
card whic means that of course that computer no longer has access to any
network.

Can anyone think of any reason this may have happened and if there is a
solution to it.  I have done a serch of the internet especially ubuntu
and found no information.

Thanks
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Connecting to exchange

[Tom Masterson]

I am working with Ubuntu 12.04.  I would really like to be able to conenct 
reliably to the exchange server at work (ok I really don't want to but it 
would be convenient) to work with email and calendars etc.  Is there an 
acceessible solution out there?  Does not have to be a single solution.


Thanks
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Strange behavior in unity 2d

[Tom Masterson]

For reasons unknown my computer locked up to the point of requiring a hard 
reboot.  I have since then done a proper shutdown and brought it back up. 
Both times after restarting keys in unity like alt-tab and f10 and some 
others do not work.


Any ideas on what is wrong and how to fix it would be greatly appreciated. 
I do not see any obvious errors in syslog or dmesg.


Thanks
Tom

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Re: Strange behavior in unity 2d

[Tom Masterson]

That appears to have fixed it.

Thanks
Tom

On Wed, 16 May 2012, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:


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On 05/16/2012 01:11 PM, Tom Masterson wrote:

For reasons unknown my computer locked up to the point of requiring
a hard reboot.  I have since then done a proper shutdown and
brought it back up. Both times after restarting keys in unity like
alt-tab and f10 and some others do not work.

Any ideas on what is wrong and how to fix it would be greatly
appreciated. I do not see any obvious errors in syslog or dmesg.

Thanks Tom


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how to create a live usb stick

[Tom Masterson]

On the stuff I have found on the web it says to use usb-creator to create 
the flash drive.  As I recall that particular package is not very usable. 
Is there another way to create a usb stick to try precise?


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Re: how to create a live usb stick

[Tom Masterson]

Thanks this appears to have worked.

Tom

On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Dave Hunt wrote:


Hi, Tom!

The first time I did this, I used the unetbootin tool, with commandline 
options.  This put the system onto the flash drive, as if I'd gone through 
Ubiquity, and started a Unity-3d session, on boot-up,which did not work well. 
Attempts to change the desktop to Unity-2d, by editing a file in 
/var/lib/AccountsService/users/ubuntu resulted in a system that would not 
bring up any kind of desktop.  As a result of some discussions on this list, 
here's what I ended up doing.


Keep in mind, I was already using Trisquel 5.5 beta.  If using any 
ubuntu-style desktop Linux, this will work.



1) insert flash drive;
If nautilus window, showing contents show up, note the volume's name, and 
close window;

3) open a terminal;
4) sudo -i;
5) enter password for sudo;
6) umount /media/drive-name;
7) dd if=/path-to-iso-file of=/dev/sdb bs=1M;
(this assumes your flash is /dev/sdb, adjust accordingly)
8) when dd command finishes, make sure bits-in and bites-written are equal;
9)exit;
10) close terminal.

If you want persistence:
with flash drive inserted and unmounted, open disk utility or gparted, on 
your flash drive, you should see one bootable partition the size of the iso 
file, and the rest of the space as unallocated.  Make a new partition of type 
'ext3', and call it casper-rw; this is your persistent storage.


HTH,


Dave




On 04/13/2012 11:59 AM, Tom Masterson wrote:

On the stuff I have found on the web it says to use usb-creator to
create the flash drive. As I recall that particular package is not very
usable. Is there another way to create a usb stick to try precise?

Thanks
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Orca running twice

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I more or less have the Ubuntu desktop coming up although nautilus does 
not seem to be stable.  For some reason when it starts there are two 
copies of orca being run.  Can someone point me to where to start looking 
to see why this is happening?


Tom

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Re: Orca running twice

[Tom Masterson]

Sorry I was in a hurry and probably left out important information.  This 
is on a sys running 11.10 using unit-2d and an older dell laptop.  It is 
not a new install but I did attempt to rebuild the desktop environment by 
removing ubuntu-desktop and reinstalling it after removing what I knew of 
the configuration files that might be left behind.


Thanks
Tom

On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Peter Vágner wrote:


Hello,
I was able to get more instances of orca running by pressing and holding down 
ctrl+s shortcut key while booting live cd after hearing the drums sound.
Might this be related?

Greetings

Peter



Dňa 2.4.2012, o 15:41, Tom Masterson kd7...@gmail.com napísal:


I more or less have the Ubuntu desktop coming up although nautilus does not 
seem to be stable.  For some reason when it starts there are two copies of orca 
being run.  Can someone point me to where to start looking to see why this is 
happening?

Tom

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How to redo the gui desktop

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I have a Dell laptop (older).  I have been upgrading it since something 
like Ubuntu 704 so it has been around awhile.  It has developed a problem 
since the upgrade to 11.10.  For some reason it has stopped runnig any of 
the GUIs.  Primarily it seems to be a problem with nautilus blowing up 
regularily.  Is there some way to remove everything and fix this?  I don't 
really want to rebuild everything from scratch as I don't want to remember 
everything I had not to mention figure our where to back up everything so 
I don't loose things like my posfix settings and others I may not remember 
after all this time.


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Oneirc unity-2ed question

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For some reason my computer has decided to turn on airplane mode and not 
let me turn it off.  I go to the system panel, select network, turjn off 
airplane mode, press all settings and when I look again airplane mode is 
back on.  In theory if I read correctly I should be able to show this in 
the network menu but I can't find any place to do that.  Also it doesn't 
find any of the wireless in the area including my own.


How can I fix this?

Tom

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Re: Oneirc unity-2ed question

[Tom Masterson]

Thanks Luke.  There is a slide switch on the side of the computer that I 
didn't even know was there that got moved at some point.


FYI it did not appear to turn off bluetooth but I didn't have anything 
connected that way so I can't verify that.


Tom

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Luke Yelavich wrote:


On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 07:25:39AM EST, Tom Masterson wrote:

For some reason my computer has decided to turn on airplane mode and
not let me turn it off.  I go to the system panel, select network,
turjn off airplane mode, press all settings and when I look again
airplane mode is back on.  In theory if I read correctly I should be
able to show this in the network menu but I can't find any place to
do that.  Also it doesn't find any of the wireless in the area
including my own.


First, are you on a laptop? If so, you may have accidentally turned off all 
radios either with a switch, or with a shortcut key. If a shortcut key, you 
need to press it again to turn things back on. I don't know what shortcut key 
that would be, since all machines are different.

Have you checked the options in the network menu, enabling wireless networking, 
and networking etc? Have you also checked to see if bluetooth is turned on from 
the bluetooth menu?

Luke

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Which orca branch

[Tom Masterson]

Which branch of orca should I check out if I want to do some testing on 
Ubuntu 11.10 with the latest orca code?


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Re: Usb-creator-gtk Inaccessible?

[Tom Masterson]

This is a long known issue with usb-creator.  It has to do with the fact 
that they are doing their ui on a separate thread rather than the main 
thread where it should be.  If you do a search on the archives for the 
orca list you should find more information and if I recall some solutions.


Tom

On Thu, 12 Jan 2012, Dave Hunt wrote:


Hi,

I'm using a stock build of Oneiric, and want to try the test build of 
Vinux-oneiric.  I downloaded a cd image from cdimages.vinuxproject.org, and 
attempted a burn to usb, only to learn that the version of the usb creator 
app is not accessible, using orca.  Unless there is a usb version of this iso 
I don't know bout, I can either burn to cd or find that Vinux usbinstall 
script.



Thanks,


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Unity folder question

[Tom Masterson]

Under gnome I always used to prefer items in a folder to be in list form 
so I don't have to go left and right and work through muliple rows to find 
a file.  I have not found a way to do this in unity.  Does this ability 
exist and if so where do I find it?


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Re: How do I switch from Unity 3D to Unity 2D in Oneiric Ocelot?

[Tom Masterson]

Several of us have asked this question on this list and still have no 
answer that does not require sighted help.  If you have someone who can 
help there is a icon (I believe it was described to me as a gear) down by 
the password on the login screen that will allow it to be changed.  So far 
no one has come up with a way to do it if you can't see that I am aware 
of.


Tom

On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Greg Lopez wrote:


Greetings,
 
I’ve recently installed Ubuntu 11.10 on my desktop computer, activated Orca and 
have it starting by default when I log in,
but I’m stuck with the Unity 3D desktop. I understand that Unity 2D is more 
accessible, but I don’t know how to switch to
it. I’m wondering if someone can explain how to switch the desktop, and how to 
make it accessible as possible, as I use the
system as a home server.
 
Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: File Choosers Not Working with Orca in Oneiric

[Tom Masterson]

I have found this in both unity and gnome and have filed a bug (don't 
remember the number).  I have also installed the extras and it did not 
help.


Tom

On Sun, 23 Oct 2011, Dave Hunt wrote:


Hi,

I'm not sure whether this is an Orca bug, a Gnome 3 bug, or something 
peculior to Oneiric.  File chooser dialogues, such as 'save as' crash the 
application that creates them.  I discovered this when trying to save a text 
file from gedit.  First, I tried just entering a name into the text field and 
hitting 'enter'; gedit crashed.  Next, I tried navigating to a particular 
directory, then saving; same result.  In both cases, gedit crashed, and my 
file did not get written.  I can specify a path on the gedit command line, 
such as in the dash,  and, as long as I hit 'ctrl+s' to save, before exiting, 
my file is saved correctly.  I am still running an out-of=-the-box Oneiric. 
Might adding the proposed and/or extra a11y sources fix this?



Thanks,


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Re: A few more observations on ONeiric and Orca

[Tom Masterson]

I am finding that unity is somewhat unstable but I don't know what is 
affecting it.  I had at least one freeze yesterday that required a system 
reboot as I could not find the particular application that caused it.  I 
am finding quite a number of segfaults in my syslog as well as quite a few 
drm errors and constatnt connect and disconnect of acpid.  I was not 
seeing those under Natty using classic.  I am not seeing those on my other 
aptop using classic with oneiric.  I am going to switch to gnome classic 
on the computer having issues this morning and see if it continues.  I 
don't know if it is just certain packages, unity, orca or (most probably) 
some combination of the above.


I tend to have pidgin and thunderbird open all the time for work and I 
know thunderbird in this iteration has issues.  I also run either eclipse 
or have eclimd running but that is not consistent and does not seem to 
relate (errors happen with or without those.


If anyone has any ideas where to start debugging these issues or where I 
should report them please let me know.  I would like to see this setup 
work.


Tom

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Jacob Schmude wrote:


Hi all,
Further to my previous observations, I have a few more.
1. Many of the toggle buttons in system settings are simply labeled switch 
and one must use Orca's review to see what
exactly they do. Some examples are the Bluetooth visibility and enabled 
toggles, and the toggle settings in the Online
Accounts preference page. This is a minor issue for the most part, however 
there seem to be random times when Orca's flat
review will not work in these windows. If I discover a pattern to this, I'll 
let everyone know.
2. There seems to be no first letter navigation in the menu bar, that is, for 
any app that integrates with Unity's global
menu bar. Is there a way to navigate these menus efficiently when you have a 
large one, such as my bookmarks in Firefox. I
can't get first letter navigation to work nor does it seem to have a 
highlight-as-you-type mode akin to OS X. The only way
I've been able to navigate these menus is with arrow keys alone. Has anyone 
else noticed this? Is there something I'm
missing?
3. Sometimes Orca freezes and I have to manually go to a console and kill it. 
This has been an issue with Orca for ages, but
I'd really hoped at-spi2/dbus would put a permanent end to it. It wouldn't be 
so bad in and of itself, but it seems to
freeze the entire desktop along with it (meaning that I can't just hit my 
shortcut key to get it back), and it's not even
considerate enough to log any relevant debug output  even when the debug level 
is set to full :-(.

Anyone else seeing these or have any advice?

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Re: A few more observations on ONeiric and Orca

[Tom Masterson]

When I switched to to classic on my work computer using the proposed 
at-spi-registry (at least I assume that is what is being used as I have 
that in my package sources) I am getting immediate at-spi-registry 
segfault messages and while suprisingly enough orca still reads my desktop 
itself it does not read any menus or otherwise.  I can not restart orca.


Help please.

Tom

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Jacob Schmude wrote:


Hi all,
Further to my previous observations, I have a few more.
1. Many of the toggle buttons in system settings are simply labeled switch 
and one must use Orca's review to see what exactly they do. Some examples are the
Bluetooth visibility and enabled toggles, and the toggle settings in the Online 
Accounts preference page. This is a minor issue for the most part, however 
there seem
to be random times when Orca's flat review will not work in these windows. If I 
discover a pattern to this, I'll let everyone know.
2. There seems to be no first letter navigation in the menu bar, that is, for 
any app that integrates with Unity's global menu bar. Is there a way to 
navigate these
menus efficiently when you have a large one, such as my bookmarks in Firefox. I 
can't get first letter navigation to work nor does it seem to have a
highlight-as-you-type mode akin to OS X. The only way I've been able to 
navigate these menus is with arrow keys alone. Has anyone else noticed this? Is 
there
something I'm missing?
3. Sometimes Orca freezes and I have to manually go to a console and kill it. 
This has been an issue with Orca for ages, but I'd really hoped at-spi2/dbus 
would put a
permanent end to it. It wouldn't be so bad in and of itself, but it seems to 
freeze the entire desktop along with it (meaning that I can't just hit my 
shortcut key to
get it back), and it's not even considerate enough to log any relevant debug 
output  even when the debug level is set to full :-(.

Anyone else seeing these or have any advice?

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Re: Updates of at-spi2, mousetweaks, and Orca in oneiric-proposed, please help with testing.

[Tom Masterson]

Hi Luke

I get an at-spi-registry segfault as soon as I log in to the computer 
under xwindows.  Seems to happen in gnome classic on this computer more 
that unity but in unity I get unity segfaults.  They appear to be 
happening in libgcong-2.


What do I need to do to track this down or get a meningful report to the 
appropriate team.  I of course can't guarantee that something is not 
screwy with the computer until I get some method of tracking this better.


Tom

On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Luke Yelavich wrote:


Hey folks,
So there are some more accessibility packages in oneiric-proposed that need 
testing. The bugs are as follows:
877817 - gnome-orca
877824 - mousetweaks
877840 - at-spi2-atk
877836 - at-spi2-core
877841 - pyatspi

Similar to the instructions in the email about onboard the other day, please 
enable the oneiric-proposed repository, update the above packages, and test. 
These are GNOME stable updates, so we are not testing for any specific issues 
as such, but we want to make sure there are no regressions or other weird 
breakage, particularly with at-spi and Orca. The instructions can be found 
here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed

When testing at-spi, please post results in all 3 at-spi related bugs, as it 
would be preferable if all 3 packages went through into updates at once.

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Updates of at-spi2, mousetweaks, and Orca in oneiric-proposed, please help with testing.

[Tom Masterson]

Interestingly enough using Gnome Classic with no effects I get the 
segfault showing in the logs but no crash report is generated.  I have had 
a colleague help me switch back to unity 2d and things are more or less 
working again but we will see what happens as I start using applications.


I to would like to be able to switch desktop managers without sighted help 
if someone knows how that can be done.


Tom

On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Tom Masterson kd7...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Luke

I get an at-spi-registry segfault as soon as I log in to the computer under
xwindows.  Seems to happen in gnome classic on this computer more that unity
but in unity I get unity segfaults.  They appear to be happening in
libgcong-2.

What do I need to do to track this down or get a meningful report to the
appropriate team.  I of course can't guarantee that something is not screwy
with the computer until I get some method of tracking this better.


If you edit:
/etc/default/apport
nd change enabled from 0 to 1, then when it crashes, the crash
report should go to /var/crash and make a pop up that I'm not sure
you'll be able to use to send the stacktrace in. The apport-cli
command can submit reports from the command line using the files in
/var/crash. It should find the crash file on its own.

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Not sure who's problem this is

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Using gedit use ctrl-o to select a file to open.  I see no place to type a 
file name and when I start trying to work through the varios lists to 
select a file gedit crashes.  No errors on screen.  Is there a place I can 
look to see if it is logging an error elsewhere?


Tom


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Re: Not sure who's problem this is

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Just found a partial answer. In dmesg I see a segfault for gedit.  Along 
with several segfaults on unit-panel-service.


Tom

On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Tom Masterson wrote:

Using gedit use ctrl-o to select a file to open.  I see no place to type a 
file name and when I start trying to work through the varios lists to select 
a file gedit crashes.  No errors on screen.  Is there a place I can look to 
see if it is logging an error elsewhere?


Tom




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Unity 2d question

[Tom Masterson]

So I used sighted help and got my desktop to 2d and it appears to be 
working reasonably well.


Is there a place (not a flash video) where I can find the shortcut keys 
that work in unity 2d?


Also I don't see a way to be sure orca comes up after you log in.

Tom

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Oneirc queston

[Tom Masterson]

I upgraded my laptop using do-releas-upgrade (which is how I normally do 
this) and found unity totally inaccessible probably because it was in 3d. 
So I installed gnome which works but I would like to try unity and I have 
more computers to upgrade.  So the question is how do I get it to start in 
unity 2d doing an upgrade ot a fresh install?  Also is it possible without 
sighted help.  My wife had to help me switch to gnome.


As a side note orca does not start automatically in gnome as I have read 
it does not in unity either.  Is there a solution for this (I have not 
read the entire archive)?


Thanks
Tom

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