[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-08-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package lxd - 2.0.10-0ubuntu1~16.04.2

---
lxd (2.0.10-0ubuntu1~16.04.2) xenial; urgency=medium

  * Fix regression in image update logic (LP: #1712455):
- 0005-Fix-regression-in-image-auto-update-logic.patch
- 0006-lxd-images-Carry-old-cached-value-on-refresh.patch
- 0007-Attempt-to-restore-the-auto_update-property.patch

  * Ship a sysctl.d file that bumps inotify watches count. (LP: #1602192)
  * Update debian/watch to look only at LTS releases.

 -- Stéphane Graber   Tue, 22 Aug 2017 20:39:36
-0400

** Changed in: lxd (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-08-25 Thread Stéphane Graber
I confirmed that the sysctl.d file is now present and functional.

** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial
** Tags added: verification-done verification-done-xenial

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-08-22 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
Hello Christian, or anyone else affected,

Accepted lxd into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and be
available at
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxd/2.0.10-0ubuntu1~16.04.2 in a
few hours, and then in the -proposed repository.

Please help us by testing this new package.  See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how
to enable and use -proposed.Your feedback will aid us getting this
update out to other Ubuntu users.

If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug,
mentioning the version of the package you tested and change the tag from
verification-needed-xenial to verification-done-xenial. If it does not
fix the bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the
tag to verification-failed-xenial. In either case, details of your
testing will help us make a better decision.

Further information regarding the verification process can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification .  Thank you in
advance!

** Changed in: lxd (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Tags added: verification-needed verification-needed-xenial

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-08-22 Thread Stéphane Graber
** Also affects: lxd (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Description changed:

- Reported by Uros Jovanovic here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-
- core/+bug/1593828/comments/18
+ == SRU
+ === Rationale
+ LXD containers using systemd will use a very large amount of inotify watches. 
This means that a system will typically run out of global watches with as 
little as 15 Ubuntu 16.04 containers.
+ 
+ An easy fix for the issue is to bump the number of user watches up to
+ 1024, making it possible to run around 100 containers before hitting the
+ limit again.
+ 
+ To do so, LXD is now shipping a sysctl.d file which bumps that
+ particular limit on systems that have LXD installed.
+ 
+ === Testcase
+ 1) Upgrade LXD
+ 2) Spawn about 50 Ubuntu 16.04 containers ("lxc launch ubuntu:16.04")
+ 3) Check that they all get an IP address ("lxc list"), that's a pretty good 
sign that they booted properly
+ 
+ === Regression potential
+ Not expecting anything here. Juju has shipped a similar configuration for a 
while now and so have the LXD feature releases.
+ 
+ We pretty much just forgot to include this particular change in our LTS
+ packaging branch
+ 
+ 
+ == Original bug report
+ Reported by Uros Jovanovic here: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1593828/comments/18
  
  "...
  However, if you bootstrap LXD and do:
  
  juju bootstrap localxd lxd --upload-tools
  for i in {1..30}; do juju deploy ubuntu ubuntu$i; sleep 90; done
  
  Somewhere between 10-20-th deploy fails with machine in pending state
  (nothin useful in logs) and none of the new deploys after that first
  pending succeeds. Might be a different bug, but it's easy to verify with
  running that for loop.
  
  So, this particular error was not in my logs, but the controller still
  ends up unable to provision at least 30 machines ..."
  
  I can reproduce this. Looking on the failed machine I can see that jujud
  isn't running, which is why juju considers the machine not up, and in
  fact nothing of juju seems to be installed. There's nothing about juju
  in /var/log.
  
  Comparing cloud-init-output.log between a stuck-pending machine and one
  which has started up fine, they both start with some key-generation
  messages, but the successful machine then has the line:
  
  Cloud-init v. 0.7.7 running 'init' at Tue, 12 Jul 2016 08:32:00 +.
  Up 4.0 seconds.
  
  ...and then a whole lot of juju-installation gubbins, while the failed
  machine log just stops.

** Changed in: lxd (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Triaged

** Changed in: lxd (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Triaged => In Progress

** Changed in: lxd (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-05-31 Thread Tim Penhey
** No longer affects: juju

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-05-11 Thread Canonical Juju QA Bot
** Changed in: juju
Milestone: 2.2-beta4 => 2.2-rc1

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-04-28 Thread Canonical Juju QA Bot
** Changed in: juju
Milestone: 2.2-beta3 => 2.2-beta4

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-04-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package lxd - 2.12-0ubuntu2

---
lxd (2.12-0ubuntu2) zesty; urgency=medium

  * Increate default inotify limits to 1024 instances per uid.
(LP: #1602192)

 -- Stéphane Graber   Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:51:34
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** Changed in: lxd (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-03-30 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju
Milestone: 2.2-beta2 => 2.2-beta3

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-03-24 Thread Curtis Hovey
** Changed in: juju
Milestone: 2.2-beta1 => 2.2-beta2

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-02-01 Thread Anastasia
>From internal discussion, for Juju, in clouds, there is no guarantee
that the images can support particular kernel parameters. For us, it is
best not to try and guess and better surface the error in the status.

** Changed in: juju
   Importance: Critical => High

** Changed in: juju
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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-02-01 Thread Anastasia
** Changed in: juju
Milestone: 2.1.0 => 2.1-rc1

** Changed in: juju
 Assignee: Richard Harding (rharding) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-01-31 Thread Anastasia
** Changed in: juju
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-01-30 Thread Christian Muirhead
billy-olsen: You're right - because we don't install juju from the
package on the deployed machines the config to enable more lxd
containers doesn't get done there. We should apply it in that case.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-01-30 Thread Billy Olsen
This bug is fixed for the local LXD provider scenario for 2.0 on Xenial
with this commit - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juju-
qa/ubuntu/xenial/juju/2.0.0/revision/214 - in which the juju-2.0.conf
file has the settings identified and dropped into /usr/lib/sysctl.d.
Unfortunately, this only addresses the case of the local LXD provider
and not any other LXD usage.

For example, if you do a high density deployment using MAAS + LXD, this
code only applies to the juju-2.0 packages which are installed on the
machine where the juju client is run. This means that any of the other
possible uses of the LXD containers within Juju are receiving the same
benefit from this tweak.

So to me it feels like there's a fix committed and even released,
however it only partially solves tuning the system for higher density of
LXD containers.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-01-10 Thread Nobuto Murata
Can we see the commit related to the bug? Also, is there a plan to backport it 
to 2.0 series as I'm not sure when we get 2.1 GA?
https://github.com/juju/juju/wiki/Juju-Release-Schedule

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2017-01-10 Thread Richard Harding
Tested w Juju 2.1 beta3 and verified I can get over 20 containers and
while it's slow does not get stuck in pending. The changes to the
profiles on the server that Michael has done appear to be working.

** Changed in: juju
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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-25 Thread Stéphane Graber
Not really. The problem is that bumping those sysctls to the value in
that document will work on most normal systems but will fail
dramatically on very low memory systems like some cloud instances and
ARM systems.

As for having LXD know when things will fail, it simply has not idea.
All the errors happen through processes inside the container that LXD
has no visibility on.

You can start hundreds (possibly thousands) of alpine containers before
any such problem occur, but spawning 20 containers that use systemd will
trip it. Similarly, you can probably start about 10x as many Ubuntu
14.04 containers before you run the same problem as with Ubuntu 16.04
containers.


In most cases, what's receiving the allocation error back from the kernel is 
systemd in the container. And rather than moving on and just doing some polling 
when inotify doesn't work, it just plain hangs there without providing any kind 
of useful feedback to the user (since logging isn't even started at that point).


As I said before, there is kernel work being done now to fix the inotify part 
of this problem in a clean, sane way which will work for everyone. Until then, 
it's reasonable for Juju to bump those limits as they know exactly what kind of 
instance they're running on.


For the ulimits (limits.conf), we'll have to look into what's going on here 
because the LXD systemd unit does have those bumped, but they somehow seem to 
be ignored by systemd or reset at some point in time, causing some of this 
breakage. I suspect it'll boil down to being a systemd bug, but we need to take 
a close look at this.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-25 Thread James Tunnicliffe
Would it be reasonable to apply the settings that
https://github.com/lxc/lxd/blob/master/doc/production-setup.md suggests
when we add the first LXD to a machine?

What about interrogating the kernel about available resources and
refusing to add a container when it won't work? I can try adding 20
containers to a MAAS node at the moment and get no useful message and
they do start to fail.

Since Juju is running as root we could just do a sysctl key=value to set
those live and apparently changes to /etc/security/limits.conf apply to
new processes without a reboot. Preserving the sysctl over reboots isn't
difficult either.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-10 Thread Michael Foord
$ juju bootstrap foo lxd
Creating Juju controller "foo" on lxd/localhost
Looking for packaged Juju agent version 2.0.0 for amd64
No packaged binary found, preparing local Juju agent binary
To configure your system to better support LXD containers, please see: 
https://github.com/lxc/lxd/blob/master/doc/production-setup.md
Launching controller instance(s) on lxd/localhost...
 - juju-6e02cd-0   
Fetching Juju GUI 2.2.0

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-10 Thread Michael Foord
I have filed bug #1631914 against lxd for better surfacing of the "too
many files open" error.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-07 Thread Michael Foord
As a note, increasing fs.max-files had no effect for me.

Using the following settings I was able to deploy about 23 containers
with juju, which is higher than I could previously:

fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288
fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 256

These are the proposed settings to come with a juju install in bug
#1631038.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-07 Thread Stéphane Graber
FYI a new version of the inotify patchset was sent today for review:
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/containers/2016-October/037480.html

This approach is the real fix for the inotify part of this problem.

For open files, we've had a few reports of systemd occasionally
misbehaving and dropping our bumped ulimits on the floor, this may be
what you've been running into...

With ulimits bumped and the inotify resolved in the kernel, the next
likely limit we'd hit is pts_max, but assuming normal uses of 2-3
devices per container, it'd take quite a few of them to reach the
default limit of 1024.

Anyway, those kind of kernel limits are something we're quite aware of,
I actually am flying back from LinuxCon where I gave a talk covering a
bunch of those problems and we'll be pushing at Linux Plumbers in a
couple of weeks to try and get proper solutions in the upstream kernel.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-07 Thread Michael Foord
** Changed in: juju
   Status: Triaged => In Progress

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-07 Thread John A Meinel
with
 fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 2048

it didn't fail until the 187th container.

It did fail with a new message that I haven't seen:
[3831] x-187:error: Error calling 'lxd forkstart x-187 /var/lib/lxd/containers 
/var/log/lxd/x-187/lxc.conf': err='exit status 1'
  lxc 20161007100331.798 ERROR lxc_conf - conf.c:run_buffer:347 - Script exited 
with status 1
  lxc 20161007100331.798 ERROR lxc_start - start.c:lxc_init:465 - failed to run 
pre-start hooks for container 'x-187'.
  lxc 20161007100331.798 ERROR lxc_start - start.c:__lxc_start:1313 - failed to 
initialize the container

Try `lxc info --show-log local:x-187` for more info

I wasn't able to actually do '--show-log', because the cleanup code
already had torn down that instance (go-lxc-run.sh only leaves the
container around if it launches but fails to come up, if the launch
itself fails it is still in the CLEAN list.)

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
I added a "cat /proc/meminfo | grep Slab" to go-lxc-run.sh and found
this:

$ sysctl fs.inotify
fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 65536
fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 1024
fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288
$ ulimit -a
...
open files  (-n) 1048576
...
$ go-lxc-run.sh
[0] x-001:[13]..7Slab: 432176 kB
...
[1365] x-071:[15]...8Slab:9639484 kB
[1387] x-072:[15]...8Slab:9603648 kB
[1409] x-073:[14]...8Slab:9621936 kB
[1431] x-074:[14]...8Slab:9673000 kB
[1453] x-075:[13]9Slab:9680444 kB
[1475] x-076:[14]9Slab:8223312 kB
[1501] x-077:[16]..7Slab:5095880 kB
...
1812] x-093:[12]..7Slab:6163512 kB
[1831] x-094:[12]..7Slab:6271272 kB
[1850] x-095:[13]..falseSlab:6371956 kB
x-095 failed to boot. keeping x-095.

So kernel memory seemed to peak at around 10GB, and then somehow dropped
down to 5GB to allow 20 more containers to be created. (on a 16GB
machine, that's a fair bit allotted to just the kernel).

However, 95 seems to be the limit for 1024
fs.inotify.max_user_instances. But that still means setting it to 1M is
silly. I'll do another run with max_user_instances=2048 and see what
happens. Since I know with very-high max values, I can get to 230
containers, that sounds like 2048 is sufficient for it.

I'll also play around next with putting Juju into the loop and see where
I get. I really wonder about max-open-files for Root vs User. LXD is
running as Root, but if the containers are all running User level,
shouldn't that be the constraint?

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
After rebooting with the new values, I did manage to get to launch a lot
more containers, failing at only the 232nd one.

I wonder if the issue is not the User number of open files, but the Root
number of open files, which requires a reboot to get updated.

I'll try to play around more to really nail down what things actually
need to be changed, but 200+ containers is a huge difference from 19.
(Also need to run this test with Juju in the mix.)

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
Interestingly, my baseline Kernel memory with no containers (and not
much other software) was about the same (~400MB). I'm not entirely sure
why it grew faster with the new settings, but didn't effect the
baseline.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
I did try setting all of the items that are mentioned in production-
setup.md. To start with, a few of them are not reasonable.
max_user_instances defaults to 128, and we were able to see a difference
at 256, but not at 1024. Setting it to 1M seems silly.

I'll also note that my Kernel memory consumption went up significantly
with those settings. When I hit 12 containers I was already up over 2GB
of kernel memory (whereas before I peaked around 1.4GB of kernel memory
when I hit 19 containers).

It seems to be a case of a huge number more "kmalloc-64" entries. I'm
not sure where those are coming from, but there are enough "OBJS" that
it overflows the standard column widths in the slabtop output.

With all of those set, I did get more containers after rebooting my
machine. (Just logging out and back in again, I actually went down to 18
containers max).

At 22 containers I hit 3.8GB of Kernel memory. I'm letting it continue
to run to see where it gets to.

I did also make sure to change the LXD backend pool to ZFS instead of
being just the normal disk. (using zfs-dkms for Trusty kernel.)

Given that I was using a btrfs filesystem, and now LXD is using ZFS that
might also be a factor in how many containers I could run. Certainly in
the initial reports "btrfs_inode_*" was near the top of the KMem output.
And now its all kmalloc and dentry. Maybe that's a side-effect of dkms?

I did end up hitting 30 containers at 4.6GB of Kernel memory before the
go-lxc-run.sh wanted to start clearing up old containers. So I'll patch
that out and see how far I get.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread Michael Foord
Created bug #1631038 for the addition of an /etc/sysctl.d/10-juju.conf
file upping max_user_watches and max_user_instances which will increase
the number of containers we can run out of the box, but not by enough.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
Note that there should be support for /etc/system/limits.d/10-juju.conf

I'm testing it now, but it may be that we can drop something in there as
well. I'll test it a bit, but if we have some tasteful defaults, maybe
we can make it work.

I think we can change from their default so instead of "* nofile 1M" we
do something like "@lxd nofile 1M" so only users that are also in the
LXD group will get the expanded limits.

Again, these feel a bit more like LXD issues than Juju ones, but maybe
we can get something done in the immediate term.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread Richard Harding
Chatting with tych0 we were linked to:
https://github.com/lxc/lxd/blob/master/doc/production-setup.md

That notes a bunch of tweaks to run the system at scale. We need to
evaluate what items make sense to enable ootb, and what things are solid
for a prod lxd system but not a great idea for all users to just have.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread Michael Foord
Some settings to tweak from tych0 on IRC: 
https://github.com/lxc/lxd/blob/master/doc/production-setup.md

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread Michael Foord
Note from jam after some experimentation:

So having played with it for a bit, I'm more comfortable with an
/etc/sysctl.d/10-juju.conf that sets max_user_watches=512k and
max_user_instances=256 but if we want to get to 50 instances we need to
dig harder.

I can just barely get to 10 instances of 'ubuntu' from juju, and only 19
raw containers with any of the inotify settings, and processes start
dying at that point.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
With Juju in the loop, I run into whatever limit a bit faster. I was
successful at doing:

 juju bootstrap test-lxd lxd
 juju deploy ubuntu
 juju add-unit -n 5 ubuntu # wait for status to say everything is running
 juju add-unit -n 5 ubuntu # wait for status to be happy

but then after doing one more
 juju add-unit -n 5 ubuntu

Firefox crashed shortly thereafter, and so did the Juju Controller,
'juju status' stopped responding. 'lxc list' shows that containers 0-10,
12 and 13 are running, but 11,14,15 are stopped.

lsof | wc -l 
reports 84854 file handles open, but that's still lower than
cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
1635148

Kernel memory is currently at 1409M

I get some random errors like "unable to acquire lock, no space left on
device" even though /dev/sda1 has 10GB free.

This is all under a Trusty HWE kernel (4.4.0-38), though the images are
Xenial ones that we are running.

It appears that Mongo was killed when things started to go south and systemd 
decided that it would stop trying to restart 'juju-db' With the error message 
"Start request repeated too quickly".
It didn't try again for at least 10 minutes before I went in and started it 
manually.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
5) Another data point, with
$ sysctl fs.inotify
fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 131072
fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 1024
fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288

(so max_queued_events 8x greater, and max_user_instances well above
previously established useful level), I still only get 19 containers.
and it still fails with a "Failed to change ownership of".

So if we want to get to 50 containers, it seems we need more than just setting 
the inotify limits.
I still plan on doing similar tests with Juju in the mix, as it is more likely 
to actually need user_watches than just launching a bare Xenial container.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread John A Meinel
Michael and I played around with some different settings, and here are
my notes.

1) Package kde-runtime seems to install
  /etc/sysctl.d/30-baloo-inotify-limits.conf which sets max_user_watches to 
512*1024

  'slabtop' says that my baseline kernel memory is 380-420MB with no containers
  running.

2) With 
  fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 16384
  fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 128
  fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288

go-run-lxc.sh fails to start container number 13. with "x-013 failed to
boot"

  Kernel memory has grown to 1076MB up from 400MB with
  141816K dentry
  564320K btrfs_inode
  As the largest items.

3) However if I set
  fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 8192

It fails again at exactly 13 containers.
So while in a real-world scenario, max_user_watches may come into play, a
"standard" desktop value of 512K is plenty (at least to have machines
provision). (I do believe I've seen max_user_watches come into play while
using Juju in the past, it just isn't the specific problem in the
go-lxc-run.sh script which takes Juju out of the picture.)

4) If I then play around with 'max_user_instances' with:
  fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 16384
  fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 256
  fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 524288

I then fail on the 19th container, with error: Failed to change ownership of:


Kernel memory is up to: 1363MB
Top entries are:
 178872K dentry
 723104K btrfs_inode

And at this point, my machine is behaving poorly. Things like "lxd delete
--force" actually fails to cleanup instances, because
  "error: unable to open database file".
And Term crashed at least one time.

I even tried at one point to set: fs.inotify.max_user_instances=2048
But it still failed at 19 (that was when Term crashed).

But I'm pretty confident that it means we're exhausting some other limit,
rather than inotify max_user_instances or max_user_watches, since changing
either of them doesn't actually increase the number of containers.

I'm going to run some more tests with Juju in the loop.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-06 Thread Michael Foord
We can include this in cloud-init for machines that will host
containers. However, for the lxd provider this would need to be set on
the machine running juju (the host machine). Should this be done at juju
install time?

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-05 Thread Alexis Bruemmer
** Changed in: juju
Milestone: 2.0.0 => 2.1.0

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-10-05 Thread Richard Harding
Per email thread, Juju needs to ship with expanded details:

> Stephane, I share your concerns around selecting the right knobs and
> testing accordingly but my main concern now is that I feel many people will
> hit this limitation when they deploy bigger charms in containers. Is there
> any way to expedite the work-around testing?

Well, Juju itself could also be bumping those limits, that way only
hosts that do actually run a bunch of big charms will have their limits
bumped rather than everyone who has LXD installed.

You could just ship a /etc/sysctl.d/10-juju.conf file with:
fs.inotify.max_queued_events = 131072
fs.inotify.max_user_instances = 1024
fs.inotify.max_user_watches = 4194304

** Project changed: juju-core => juju

** Changed in: juju
   Status: Invalid => Triaged

** Changed in: juju
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Richard Harding (rharding)

** Changed in: juju
Milestone: None => 2.0.0

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-09-22 Thread Alexis Bruemmer
** Changed in: juju-core
 Assignee: Christian Muirhead (2-xtian) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-09-14 Thread james beedy
@stgrabber, what's the status on this?

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-07-22 Thread Stéphane Graber
So there is a patchset that's been sent for review a couple of times
upstream which would tie a bunch of the inotify limits to a user
namespace. This would almost certainly fix this issue.

Until then, we can workaround it by bumping the default values for those knobs.
This bump could be done in the Ubuntu kernel directly, or through a sysctl 
file, either shipped by default with our other sysctl settings or as a hook in 
the lxd or juju packages (lxd would probably make more sense).

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-07-19 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
It sounds like the "fix" for this lies outside of LXD. Can we add the
affected packages and involve the right upstreams for this? Are we going
to pursue this purely upstream with systemd / kernel or are we going to
attempt a distro-patch of some sort?

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-07-15 Thread Seth Forshee
It does look like max_user_instances is global and not namespaced. So
unless there's a resource leak somewhere that needs to be fixed, bumping
that limit may be the only option.

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-07-15 Thread Martin Pitt
I don't know that much about /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_instances,
but apparently this isn't properly namespaced, so it is a global limit
for all containers on the host? As a workaround, lxd could ship a
/usr/lib/sysctl.d/ snippet to bump it, but I'm not sure if that has
other downsides (particularly as we install lxd by default).

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[Bug 1602192] Re: when starting many LXD containers, they start failing to boot with "Too many open files"

2016-07-15 Thread Martin Pitt
Apparently the relevant limit is
/proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_instances. This is "128" by default. When
increasing it with

   sudo sysctl fs.inotify.max_user_instances=256

then the failed container reboots fine (and udev starts).

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