[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
I agree with you that a bug can be a lot of things, but at this point, since this behavior is expected to work this way ( I mean that ubuntu isn't designed to work with root account, I can't say if it's possible to make it work with root by I believe that it is ), if you just open a bug report, you'll probably don't get the attention you want for this problem you try to work on. That's why I suggest you to speaks with ubuntu developpers. Perhaps that enabling root account is even possible and that they know how or else at least you will speak to people who are responsible of these kinds of things. From now on, root account cannot be easily activated because of security concerns. Changing that can be pretty more dramatic than let the things as it is here. Perhaps that you can help to create a better compromise around this problem, you just need to speak to the right people and work with the community. -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
It seems I have another bug on my system (Hardy is not asking for root password by trying to run root-tasks on GUI): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651999 That's why my ranting is inapropriate and I apologize. Nevertheless I would like to add, if this behavior is working as expected, then a proper error/info message and disabling the Allow local system administrator login option in the security section would be very helpful and less confusing, right? -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
I also think that this can be considered as a bug. Can you open a bug report about the existence of the Allow local system administrator login and the fact that it doesn't work? I continue to think that we should speak to ubuntu developers about this to know what's the right solution between these two : 1. This option should not exist. 2. This option should really enable root login. If you open the bug, I can speak with ubuntu developers to get their opinion. Thanks for your contribution. -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
Agreed. I created the report: Bug #180430 -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
Thanks, I'll look if I have time to speak with ubuntu developers about this today. -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
So, why can I under Setup Login ScreenSecurity activate the entry Allow local system administrator login? Either this entry is wrong and a proper error message would be helpful or it is indeed a bug. IMHO it is a bug. It's good root is deactivated by default, but I would like to decide whether I stick with that or not. Ie. I don't like it because it's not fully implemented in the desktop...I even can't unmount a volume... -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
The Devil Is A Squirrel : I believe that this should be discussed with developers because it's not a bug meaning that the computer crash, etc. According to dAniel hAhler, this behavior from ubuntu is expected and I also think that it is expected to work that way for security reasons. I believe that you can unlock root account and use it through ubuntu but it's not designed to work that way for the lamda user who uses graphical tools to configure the computer because of security concerns. Perhaps you can speak about this idea on devel mailing lists or in #ubuntu-devel -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
Well, first, a bug is more than just a crash. Uhm, how can this behavior work as expected? It's one thing that by default root-login is deactivated but another thing if you just can't activate root-login although you activate the options provided by the system... -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
See also here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651999 -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
The root password is not random, but the root login is disabled. So even if you change it using sudo passwd, you cannot login with it. Please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. Thank you. ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: Saïvann Carignan (saivann) = dAniel hAhler (blueyed) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
Thanks for your bug report. I suggest that you test that behavior on actual Gutsy stable release because I think that this is normal since Linux ubuntu uses sudo and not root account. From what I know, the root account doesn't have any password in ubuntu, this has the effect ( in any Linux system ) to disable the account. ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: (unassigned) = Saïvann Carignan (saivann) Status: New = Incomplete -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 179504] Re: [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password.
Tested in Feisty, Gutsy and Hardy : GDM will never authorize you to connect as the root user, you'll get this message System administrator is not allowed to login from this screen. If you get another error message, can you copy it there? Can you also try to create a new user account and look if you can change the password of that account and then login successfully into that account? Thanks for your contribution. -- [Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups] Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/179504 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
