[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-10-18 Thread jerrylamos
Yep, whoever coded that part of Network Manager decided some cards
didn't support carrier detect therefore disabled the card.  Even though
the cards work just fine.

Once booted, with Gutsy Ubuntu and Gutsy Xubuntu, clicking on the
network manager icon and clicking the wired network line and
waiting..activates the connection.  Absolutely no reason that
couldn't have been done during boot by the Network Manager code in the
first place.

Two thorns remain - I boot, there's a prominent notification of updates,
I click on update icon which runs for a while then bombs out because of
no network connection.  Oops, cancel out of that, click on network
icon and wired connection, wait, then try the update again

Biggest bone on Kubuntu as of 20071010, I haven't tried Kubuntu 7.10 yet, is 
that there is NO ACTIVE (NOT GREY'D OUT) PLACE TO CLICK ON WIRED CONNECTION.  
ERGO, NO NETWORK.  FOR ME, THAT MAKES KUBUNTU DOA (DEAD ON ARRIVAL).  Kubuntu 
Tribe 5 worked fine.  Rest in peace.  And oh, yes, if the connection is 
enabled with sudo dhclient, Gutsy 7.10 Network Mangler doesn't recognize it 
(the topic of this bug in the first place) so Kubuntu remains networkless even 
though there is a working pingable connection
Jerry

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-10-17 Thread jhansonxi
I just spent a lot of time testing the nm applet on an updated (as of
20071017) Ubuntu Gutsy RC1 using a whole bunch of different network
adapters.  I found that the applet won't connect automatically with a
few cards only.  Big report follows and syslog is attached.  I also
moved the drive to an Intel D815EEA system and tested #1 again but got
the same result (the built-in port worked successfully).  I also tried
enabling/disabling the Award BIOS PNP OS option but the results were the
same.  I tested the cards multiple times and the results are 100%
repeatable.  The only thing I haven't tried is a virgin Gutsy RC1
install on a completely different system with the same cards.

nm-applet 0.6.5
Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy RC1)
Linux restore1 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 23:05:12 GMT 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux

HP Pavilion 8705
Pentium III 800MHz
Via Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP
ASUS CUV-NT motherboard

FAILS:  When desktop loads, applet indicates no network found, Firefox can't 
access the Internet.  Manually selecting Wired Network fixes the problem.
SUCCESS:  When desktop loads, applet indicates Wired network connection, 
Firefox can browse the Internet.

#1 (FAILS)
dmesg:
[8.252000] eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0xb800, IRQ 11, 
00:40:05:59:12:CF.

ifconfig -a:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:05:59:12:CF  
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:647 (647.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0xb800 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

lspci -vv:
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8029(AS)
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: I/O ports at b800 [size=32]

lspci -vvn:
00:0b.0 0200: 10ec:8029
Subsystem: 10ec:8029
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: I/O ports at b800 [size=32]


#2 (FAILS)
dmesg:
[   19.977677] eth0: Macronix 98715 PMAC rev 32 at Port 0xb800, 
00:80:AD:3B:A0:DB, IRQ 11.

ifconfig -a:
eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:80:AD:3B:A0:DB  
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:707 (707.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0xb800 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

lspci -vv:
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 20)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 32 (2000ns min, 14000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: I/O ports at b800 [size=256]
Region 1: Memory at df00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 2000 [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 1
Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2- AuxCurrent=0mA 
PME(D0-,D1+,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold+)
Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

lspci -vvn:
00:0b.0 0200: 10d9:0531 (rev 20)
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping+ SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- 
TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR-
Latency: 32 (2000ns min, 14000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
Region 0: I/O ports at b800 [size=256]
Region 1: Memory at df00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 2000 [disabled] [size=64K]
   

[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-10-17 Thread jhansonxi
I performed a new install from scratch and retested starting with #3 
#4.  I got the same result with #1  #2 failing.  Based on the logs, it
looks like it is the carrier detect issue and it affects both the tulip
and ne2k-pci drivers.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-09-05 Thread Stéphane Graber
** Description changed:

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-08-31 Thread jerrylamos
Now indicates correctly with three computers here: Gutsy Tribe 5 on IBM
Thinkpad R31, IBM NetVista 2gHz P4, 1.2 gHz Celeron motherboard.

Cheers, Jerry Amos

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-08-30 Thread Brian Murray
** Tags added: iso-testing

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-07-15 Thread Olivier Berten
Solved for me with version 0.6.5-0ubuntu7

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-27 Thread Alex Eftimie
 Mathias Hasselmann  said on 2007-06-18:
Possible work arround for me: Provide some DBus interface for letting 
ip-up/ip-down scripts report the online status of manually configured devices. 
Would be some kind of hack, but that short term solution would drop alot of 
announces NM currently cause. 

Have you done that? I'm also interested in solving that problem, because
I'm using a manual configured PPPoE connection, network-manager reports
'No network connection', and all major applications start in Offline
mode. This is very annoying, and I don't see any progress at all in this
problem.

Thanks

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-27 Thread jerrylamos
The only progress I've seen is backwards.  On my IBM Net Vista which
came up with Network Manager O.K. on Feisty, now on Gutsy daily builds
up through yesterday during boot Network Manager fills /var/log/syslog
with hundreds and thousands of loops of enabling and disabling either
eth2 (which I don't have) or eth0  before it finally finishes boot.
Syslog is as much as 5 megabytes big where it should be 35 kilobytes.

My main system still requires manual intervention since Network Manager
disables my Realtek card during boot; you can see it right in
/var/log/syslog.

Removing the Network Manager package is useless because even though it
is removed, it is still active during boot and still disables my card -
which works perfectly after having to enable it either by issuing sudo
dhclient or clicking the applet.  If Network Manager can enable the
wired network by clicking on the applet, why can't it use the same thing
to enable it during boot??

We the users have no clue whether Ubuntu isn't interested, can't fix it,
or maybe the Network Manager people would rather work on something else
(shudder).

Upshot is I can get it working sooner or later, but this doesn't seem to
me to be the best way to spread Ubuntu to more users.

Cheers, Jerry

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-27 Thread Olivier Berten
Same for me on gutsy, NM 0.6.5

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-18 Thread GonzO
Isn't there a manual configuration mode, and wouldn't this mode be the
thing to choose when one uses a manually configured PPP link?

Or do I entirely misunderstand the situation?

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-18 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
 Isn't there a manual configuration mode, and wouldn't this mode be the 
 thing to choose when one uses a manually configured PPP link?
 Or do I entirely misunderstand the situation?

Well, yes: There is this sub-menu with ppp providers, but - at least in
my setup - NetworkManager doesn't realize when such a link comes online.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-18 Thread GonzO
o.O

My NetworkManager (as of Feisty, current to today) has no sub-menu
dealing with PPP at all.  What sub-menu are you looking at?

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-18 Thread jerrylamos
Gutsy as of 20070618 has network manager problem with same symptoms as Feisty.
1.  Network manager disables Realtek ethernet card during boot.  No reason to 
do that since it works fine.
2.  After boot, the applet shows a red mark and passing the cursor over it says 
no network connection.
3.  Using The Official Ubuntu Book method of sudo dhclient, the card comes up 
and the network works fine.
4.  Network manager still reports no network connection even as the browser 
and ethernet card work fine.
5.  Manually clicking on the network manager applet, clicking on the wired 
connection, and then clicking off the balloon does get it running with the 
proper indication; why on earth do I have to do three manual clicks with Gutsy 
and Fesity when Dapper and Edgy don't need it?
Cheers, Jerry

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-16 Thread Mathias Hasselmann
 Can people confirm that this is still happening? I haven't had this
for a while.

Is still have the problem with manually configured PPP links. NM doesn't
detect when this link is online and has created a default route. This
causes important applications like Epiphany, Evolution, GAIM^W Pidgin,
... to stay in offline mode. Very annoying. I have to configure my PPP
link by hand, as I need a custom chatscript to connect to my UMTS based
ISP.

Possible work arround for me: Provide some DBus interface for letting
ip-up/ip-down scripts report the online status of manually configured
devices. Would be some kind of hack, but that short term solution would
drop alot of announces NM currently cause. Additionally such an
interface would have the advantage of being able to extend NM to support
for instance UMTS links by using a more reasonable language than C:
Configuring an UMTS modem involves alot of string processing. C
definitly is not the right language for such stuff.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-15 Thread Alex Jones
Can people confirm that this is still happening? I haven't had this for
a while.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-06-03 Thread Olivier Berten
Exact same problem as Jerry Lamos since Feisty. I'm now on Gutsy, hoping
that it would solve my problem... but not yet.

Applet NetworkManager 0.6.4

/var/log/syslog
Jun  3 12:18:39 oli NetworkManager: information^Istarting... 
Jun  3 12:18:39 oli NetworkManager: information^Ieth1: Driver 'ne2k-pci' does 
not support carrier detection. ^IYou must switch to it manually. 
Jun  3 12:18:39 oli NetworkManager: information^Inm_device_init(): waiting 
for device's worker thread to start 
Jun  3 12:18:39 oli NetworkManager: information^Inm_device_init(): device's 
worker thread started, continuing. 
Jun  3 12:18:39 oli NetworkManager: information^INow managing wired Ethernet 
(802.3) device 'eth1'. 
Jun  3 12:18:39 oli NetworkManager: information^IDeactivating device eth1. 

/etc/network/interfaces
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth1
iface eth1 inet dhcp

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-05-31 Thread Ruewan
I have the same problem with my wireless. I am using the ndiswrapper
with my wireless adapter. More often than not when I try to connect to
my wireless network it does not get an IP address. It worked fine in
Edgy and it works fine in Windows. When I sudo dchpclient I can surf but
the network manager applet still shows no IP address.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-13 Thread ErMejo
Same problem.

I solved it by editing /etc/network/interfaces

I deleted all lines except for:

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

Now the NetworkManager applet works correctly.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-13 Thread yeti
After 7.04 full synaptic upgrade April 13,
Network Manager 0.6.4-ubuntu7 
- has some harmless, extraneous entries in /etc/network/interfaces
- does dhcp and dns duties ok
- allows review of manual configuration
- does *not* report status info via bars ico; it's missing.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-13 Thread Martin Pitt
This should have been fixed in

network-manager (0.6.4-6ubuntu7) feisty; urgency=low

  * 21_manual_means_always_online.diff:
The previous version of this patch (ubuntu5) made a change to nm-applet
that would assume the state was disconnected if the device list was empty.
This didn't work since the device list is always empty on start because
the status is obtained first.

This was guarding against having the connected state with no devices,
which broke later assertions.  Change the patch to correct those
assertions instead; a connected state with no active device will now
display the wired icon with a Manual network configuration tooltip.

LP: #82335, #105234.

  * 05-debian_backend.patch:
Revert change in ubuntu3 that commented out the blacklisting of
devices listed in /etc/network/interfaces with more exotic configuration
than just inet dhcp.  This was done by the above patch in ubuntu5, it
seems silly to do it there, better to do it in the original patch.

  * 22_manual_config_available_when_connected.patch:
Display the Manual configuration menu option when we have no devices,
but are connected; since that means some number of blacklisted devices
exist.  Don't display the No network devices message in that case.

 -- Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:32:01
+0100

Please report back if you still have this problem with this version.

** Changed in: network-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-13 Thread yeti
Sorry, that's Bug 103258.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-13 Thread yeti
April 13 synaptic update network-manager (0.6.4-6ubuntu7) feisty
*does not* provide connection status information as it did April 10.
See Bug 103528 for some history.

Network functions are ok, but I expect there are more gui products that
are not coming thru on my install of 7.04 with all the latest synaptic
stuff.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-13 Thread GonzO
Last night/this morning (two different computers, both on wired network,
both with NM reporting no connection when there was one):

Did a sudo aptitude update  sudo aptitude dist-upgrade.  Received
(among other things) network-manager (0.6.4-6ubuntu7) feisty.  Restarted
the machines.

NM properly reports wired network now.

Thanks, guys!  Fixed for me.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-12 Thread Tolan Blundell
NM failed for me on Apr 12th feisty update. After dist-upgrade my
network was down. /etc/init.d/network restart got the network back up
but NM now reports 'No network connection'. The network connection is a
static wired connection which NM noticed was connected yesterday, but
not today.

Current nm version: 0.6.4-6ubuntu6

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-12 Thread GonzO
Add another confirmation here.

Upon reboot (network-manager 0.6.4-6ubuntu6), I have full network access
that actually appears to be _managed_ fine by NM, but the NM applet
_reports_ that I'm offline.

Selecting Wired Network makes the applet disconnect/reconnect, and
then it reports fine.  Even though it has the same IP as it had a second
ago.

It really appears to be an on-boot reporting issue, and not an actual
networking issue.  The network is up and running, the applet just
incorrectly says it isn't when I boot into GNOME.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-12 Thread Alex Jones
Same here, subscribing.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-11 Thread Robert Rittenhouse
I can confirm that the udpates I did on April 11th, 2007 contained a
network manager update (to 0.6.4). I connect via ethernet. When booting
up Ubuntu Feisty the network manager icon has the disconnected. I have
an IP address and everything works. To resolve this I just click on the
icon and click wired networking and it reacquires the IP and it changes
the icon back to the connected one.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-11 Thread jerrylamos
Latest today's build 20070411, CD Live:
1. During boot scripts network comes up O.K., finds gateway, finds remote DNS.
2. Still during boot scripts Network Manager disables the network.  Dapper and 
Edgy don't do that.  They Just Work.
3. After boot completes, Network Manager says No connection.  I click on the 
NM icon, then click on wired connection, it comes up, and Network Manager 
reports connected.
That means the connection works and Network Manager software is defective 
in disabling the network which runs just fine if Network Manager would leave it 
alone.

Then I created another account, administrator privileges, and switched
users.

4. When the new user logged on, Network Manager had No network connection.  
No business doing that, should be able to switch users without causing a 
hardware disconnect.
5. Clicked on Network Manager which said the network was Disconnected and 
still reported No network connection.
6. Clicked on Network Manager yet again, and on wired connection, and then the 
connection came up.  The network wasn't disconnected, except by Network Manager.

Another way to enable the network connection is sudo dhclient which
works fine.  That's right out of the Official Ubuntu book,
troubleshooting section.  Network Manager doesn't know about dhclent so
still shows No network connection even when there is one.

Could someone explain what the purpose of Network Manager is on this
system, if the primary function is to disable the only working network
connection?  Ubuntu used to come up clean with no user action, now
there's extra steps required.

Thanks, Jerry

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-10 Thread jkeith3213
My network connection works, and I had no errors in feisty beta, but
after downloading new updates through update manger today, network
manger .6.4 displays no connection icon, says no connection when mouse
is over it, and will not display any network information.  However, the
network connection seems to be working correctly, as I am able to
connect with my wired connection, without changing anything.  I'm not
sure which update caused this, all I actually read was keyring manger,
but box was up to date as of Apr 8.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-10 Thread Victor Medina
The same problem here, after updating on 10/04/2007 at 19:30 (aprox.),
using Fiesty beta Network manager displays no conection manager.

Although i have two machines running Fiesty, one desktop pc and a IBM
t40 laptop, the wire connections are not recognized anymore, wireless
connection seems to work correctly though.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-10 Thread António Lima
Same here. Afer today's update (10/04/2007). I have been using feisty
for a few weeks and never had this problem. I have internet access by
ethernet tough, with out having to to any configuration. After
deactivating network in nm and reactivating, the no connection sign
goes away.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-02 Thread GonzO
On my Edgy box, NM doesn't take control of any adapter interface
**unless** that interface has the auto in front of it in
/etc/networking/interfaces.  I've statically configured the wifi card in
my Edgy box, and NM ignores the entire interface as a result.  Does
removing the

auto eth0

from /etc/networking/interfaces file stop NM from controlling it?  Does
manually assigning the IP of an adapter in this file stop NM from
attempting to control with it?

On a different note: Half of this problem is NM's faulty status report.
NM displays connection information about adapter interfaces it controls;
but if it controls none, than NM can only display not connected
regardless of what non-NM-controlled adapter interface might be up and
running.  This is obviously misleading, and a number of things could be
done to fix it.  One solution to this would be for nm-applet to question
whether or not it should continue to run based upon whether any
interface in /etc/networking/interfaces is set to auto (and if there
are no such interfaces, it should quietly exit from the tray).  Another
solution would be to have NM be able to _monitor_ all interfaces, but
_control_ only those set to auto - so if one interface is statically
configured (not under NM's control), NM can still report that it is
connected.

Obviously, its probably easier to have it exit if it does nothing.  But
that's just my non-programmer guess.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-04-02 Thread GULLI.ver
Like Olivier Bornet I found the same kernel-related nm-applet bug.
(Gnome nm-applet 0.6.3)

When running 2.6.20-6 on edgy, network-manager works perfectly on my IBM T43p 
(with atheros), including WPA.
When running 2.6.20-12/13 on edgy, network-manager stops working at all - but I 
can get an IP-address using dhclient and at least eth0-connection works fine.

So there must be some kind of change in a module from 2.6.20-6 to 12,
which conflicts with nm-applet.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-31 Thread DRs endRs
I'm getting the exact same feedback as bytesmythe. However networking
works on my home WEP encrypted network with NM. At my school, it does
not connect as said--dhclient works. I'm not an expert on this, but for
some reason I think it's a bug with multiple APs of the same SSID. I
don't know.

Wicd seems to be a great network tool that works with the said network.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-31 Thread maco
NM works perfectly with: 
Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
Connections fail when the signal is weaker than about 40%.  As long as it's 
~50+% though, it's perfect.  It has worked perfectly since Dapper.


Now if only the wired Marvell card had better drivers (drops at high throughput 
and requires reboot)
Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8038 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller (rev 14)

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-24 Thread bytesmythe
I'm having the same type of problem with NM. When I click on the icon,
it correctly displays a list of available wireless networks, but when I
select one of them, it attempts to connect but fails.

If, while it is attempting to connect, I pop open a terminal and run
dhclient (which will connect just fine), once the n-m connection attempt
times out, it will disable my now functioning network and I have to run
dhclient again.

We really need a decent network management interface. NM is a couple of
bugs away from being great, but unfortunately, those bugs are complete
showstoppers. (Now if my stupid Broadcom 4318 would work out of the box,
or even with the package install of ndiswrapper, instead of me having to
build it from source...)

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-23 Thread RedBoot
I googled feisty fawn network manager and it brought me here. Reading the 
dialog above, I think my comments might be relevant. I too am totally 
frustrated with Network Manager. It converts a static IP to the zero configure 
IP of 169.x.x.x the instant the NIC patch cable is disconnected. Details:
In a network communications class, I use a live CD PC to simply ping another. 
(My focus is on Cisco switch configuration.) Boot Feisty Fawn Herd 5 LiveCD. 
Use the GUI to set IP on eth0 to 1.1.1.9/24. Repeat with other PC to 
1.1.1.10/24. All works well. I disconnect cable temporarily and Network Manager 
reconfigures eth0 to 169.x.x.x. I then attempt to use the Network Manager to 
change this and get the same result.
I see many posts noting goofy results with NM. Works like its Alpha level code. 
Should Ubuntu wait until this thing is ready for prime time?
Scott

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-23 Thread Olivier Bornet
I have the same kind of problem on a MacBook Pro.

With edgy, all is ok. Network Manager handle perfectly the wired and
wireless connections, even with WPA. :)

Now, because I have some problems to do recording with the microphone,
I'm trying to use the feisty kernel with the edgy installation. So, I
updated kernel to the last feisty kernel (package linux-
image-2.6.20-12-generic, version 2.6.20-12.20) and linux-restricted-
modules-2.6.20-12-generic (version 2.6.20.3-12.11) for the ath_pci
wireless card.

Just updating the kernel cause the Network Manager no more working. It
says in the try No network devices have been found.

Now, I have the two kernels installed, so:

- if I boot with edgy standard kernel 2.6.17-11-generic (from package
version 2.6.17.1-11.35), Network Manager works correctly,

- if I boot the same installation with the feisty kernel
2.6.20-12-generic, Network Manager just says No network devices have
been found.

I will be happy to make more tests if needed.

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-23 Thread jerrylamos
On 20070322 builds, Ubuntu and Kubuntu boot up with No network
connection.  Left click on the icon, click to activate, and it does.
Since it comes right up, there was no technical reason to de-activate
the network during boot as shown in the syslogs above.

Xubuntu Feisty, Dapper, Simply Mepis, PCLinuxOS, ... don't have the
problem.  Advantage everyone else except Feisty Ubuntu, Kubuntu.  In my
opinion, this is an anklebiter problem, not likely to stop a ordinary
desktop computer user, just annoy.

It would certainly save a lot of people a lot of grief (see above
comments) if the Network (mis)manager booted up off, so those that
wanted it could turn it on.

Cheers, Jerry

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-17 Thread Chris Wagner
Sorry, Jerry.  Would you mind updating the bug report's description, to
be a bit more accurate?  I was just hoping to make this report easier
for others to find, but I guess I didn't entirely understand the
problems at hand.  Thanks. :)

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-17 Thread jerrylamos
** Description changed:

- feisty fawn herd 3 download 1 February 2007
- After bootup there was a message about a crash, apparently add/remove 
program? 
- Going on:
+ Description edited 3/17/07 by Jerry Amos, originator:
  
- Network manager icon on top line, right side just before speaker volume says:
- No Network Connection
- After booted from Live CD, ifconfig did not return an IP.  Ping the gateway 
didn't work.
- Network DNS showed IP's from my gateway and from the DSL nameserver, so 
during boot CDLive did in fact get out on the internet.
- From terminal I issued:
- dhcp
- which then got an ip address, and ping the gateway worked.  Firefox connected 
to ubuntu hence I'm writing this entry.
+ 1. Hardware and ethernet card run fine on Dapper and Edgy and other
+ Linux distros and Windows.
  
- Network Manager still says no connection which is not correct which is
- a bug since I'm making this entry through the connection.
+ 2. Feisty has Network manager standard.  After bootup, Network manager
+ says: No Network connection and indeed Firefox can't find the
+ internet.
+ 
+ 3. Issue sudo dhclient as per Official Ubuntu Book p.211, eth0 comes
+ up and Firefox runs fine.
+ 
+ Bug #1. However, Network Manager still says no network connection even
+ though there is a connection.
+ 
+ 4. I didn't understand why there was no connection after bootup, so
+ looking thru the syslog and networking, I see during boot Ubuntu
+ establishes the network connection and finds the gateway and the
+ nameserver out on the internet so eth0 is functioning fine.
+ 
+ Bug #2.  Then Network manager decides the Realtek ethernet card (which
+ is already running), does not support carrier detect and disables
+ eth0.  That's the second bug, Network manager should not disable a
+ perfectly functioning eth0.
+ 
+ If the Ubuntu goal is for the ordinary computer desktop user to just
+ run, then Network manager is in this case impeding the goal.  My view
+ as a user, anyway.  Jerry

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: network-manager (upstream)
   Status: Unknown = Unconfirmed

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-15 Thread Chris Wagner
** Summary changed:

- feisty fawn no network connection
+ [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

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[Bug 82927] Re: [feisty fawn] NetworkManager reports incorrect online status

2007-03-15 Thread jerrylamos
I see the title of the bug has changed.

** Not only does Network Manager report incorrect status, during boot
Network Manager itself disabled a perfectly running eth0, complaining
something about no carrier detect?

Network Manager should not disable perfectly functioning hardware, a
ordinary desktop computer user (see Official Ubuntu book).

Xubuntu Feisty runs fine, Edgy, Dapper, and Windows run fine.  They
don't have Network Manager standard.  Network Manager has a software
design bug telling it to turn the customer's hardware off when it should
not, as well as the bug of reporting incorrect status.  Feisty Ubuntu
and Feisty Kubuntu should just work like it does on Feisty Xubuntu -
which has no Network Manager (yet, as of 20070315).

Of course, Feisty Ubuntu development could decide it isn't interested in
customers with those hardware configurations; I'd hope they would want
to fix the software instead.  Some of us would like to see wider use for
Ubuntu, not narrower.

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