[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal/ ** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 Title: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/90097/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Hello, maybe I can add some more info. I have KDE 4.9.5 on Kubuntu 12.10 (kernel 3.5.0-25-generic) and the light remains on if I safely remove my Dikom USB- If I type eject it by terminal command, it's umounted and the light turns off after been umounted. This also happened with prevoius KDE version (before my last upgrade). Just to give further info, with KDE 4.9.4 on Fedora (kernel 3.6.10-4.fc18.x86_64) the light turns off both from KDE and by eject command. The same correct behaviour I get with Linux Mint with Mate 1.4.0 and kernel 3.5.0-25-generic- As someone said the user is expecting the light turns off after flashing when you unmount it. Now that I know this bug I just wait it end flashing and the light remains still ON -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 Title: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/90097/+subscriptions -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Hello. Just noting that this is still happening on Karmic (see my older post #24 from hardy). No problems as long as you eject the device from within KDE. FWIW - it also happens on a relatively new Macbook. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I can confirm this bug in another Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy. The leds never are powered off, while in Windows computers it does. It would be very helpful for users to get the LED powered off, after ejecting the memory. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
obviously, a hardware component of the USB memory devices is not correctly addressed, regardless whether the effects of this are more psychological or performance related. i had this error with all of my memory sticks, other people's memory sticks, and LEDs not flashing happened with some of the wireless adapters too, in earlier distributions. perhaps the wireless driver guys have an idea how to fix the led issue!? they obviously attacked the problem somehow, i suppose -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Please look into providing an option to power down the device. My USB HDD always spins even after issuing umount. I have since relegated 1 ext HDD to the dumps. This new HDD that I own, well, I only plug it into Windows now, for fear that this too will break down. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
This would perhaps be a bug suitable for the Papercut project? -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I can also confirm this with the Sandisk Cruzer Micro 2.0GB. On Windows XP the light goes off when using the Windows Safely Disconnect dialog or the built in Sandisk software to disconnect. On Ubuntu 8.04. The disk can be easily used/mounted/unmounted/ejected, but the light ALWAYS stays on. I've not had any corruption issues, but I am careful to umount/eject. dmesg and lsusb are included below... [ 1858.662100] usb 5-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 6 [ 1858.794837] usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1858.795054] scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [ 1858.795195] usb-storage: device found at 6 [ 1858.795199] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [ 1863.787287] usb-storage: device scan complete [ 1863.787789] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 3.27 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 1863.788284] scsi 4:0:0:1: CD-ROMSanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro 3.27 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 1863.789639] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] 3995648 512-byte hardware sectors (2046 MB) [ 1863.790262] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off [ 1863.790266] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [ 1863.790268] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1863.793380] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] 3995648 512-byte hardware sectors (2046 MB) [ 1863.794008] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off [ 1863.794012] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [ 1863.794014] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1863.794018] sdc: sdc1 [ 1863.795460] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 1863.795504] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 [ 1863.799746] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 8x/40x writer xa/form2 cdda tray [ 1863.799800] sr 4:0:0:1: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1 [ 1863.799844] sr 4:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 5 [ 2609.361907] usb 5-2: USB disconnect, address 6 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb Bus 005 Device 007: ID 0781:5406 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro 4GB Flash Drive Bus 005 Device 001: ID : Bus 004 Device 002: ID 049f:0051 Compaq Computer Corp. KU-0133 Easy Access Interner Keyboard Bus 004 Device 001: ID : Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc. Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lsusb -v Bus 005 Device 007: ID 0781:5406 SanDisk Corp. Cruzer Micro 4GB Flash Drive Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 idVendor 0x0781 SanDisk Corp. idProduct 0x5406 Cruzer Micro 4GB Flash Drive bcdDevice0.10 iManufacturer 1 SanDisk Corporation iProduct2 U3 Cruzer Micro iSerial 3 16215273E352 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 32 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0x80 (Bus Powered) MaxPower 200mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip) iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 1 Device Qualifier (for other device speed): bLength10 bDescriptorType 6 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 bNumConfigurations 1 Device Status: 0x2300 (Bus Powered) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
While this so far hasn't been a data-loss issue, It may become one, since it doesn't only apply to USB flash drives, but also USB powered laptop harddrive enclosures. When unmounting my specific hard drive (WesternDigital Elements 250GB), as well as the light remaining on, the HDD platters continue to spin indefinitely. My only option is to unplug it while it's spinning. I'm sure this isn't good for the drive. On the other hand, I have the same issue in windows with particular drive (disks continue spinning after being safely removed). It might just be a badly designed drive (lsusb, below, says it's self-powered, which is wrong), and in that case, powering it down would probably have the same effect as simply unplugging it. Bus 005 Device 021: ID 1058:1010 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 idVendor 0x1058 Western Digital Technologies, Inc. idProduct 0x1010 bcdDevice1.05 iManufacturer 1 Western Digital iProduct2 External HDD iSerial 3 575845353038504A35393537 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 32 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower2mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 8 Mass Storage bInterfaceSubClass 6 SCSI bInterfaceProtocol 80 Bulk (Zip) iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x02 EP 2 OUT bmAttributes2 Transfer TypeBulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes bInterval 0 Device Qualifier (for other device speed): bLength10 bDescriptorType 6 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass0 (Defined at Interface level) bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize064 bNumConfigurations 1 Device Status: 0x0001 Self Powered -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Hey, have you checked out bug #58706 ? It suggests using eject (from the command line) instead of unmount. Can you try that, then mark this as a duplicate, if eject works to turn off the LED? -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Michael, I tried 'eject' instead of 'umount', but the USB light stays on. This is on a Sandisk Cruzer, OS is Hardy. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
** Changed in: hal (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: kubuntu-meta = hal Assignee: Kubuntu Team (kubuntu-team) = (unassigned) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Hi, I guess it is not a bug, it is a regular behavior. Mount/umount is a filesystem relative tool, it has no relationship with hardware management. So, the problem with data loss is irrevelant. I think this issue must be send to the « Desktop team », to decide if we have to add some « Disconnect » entry in the popup menu instead of « Unmount ». In this case, the led (so the usbkey), can be switch off. (please apologize my english, i'm french) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
no particular idea. I think, yes, to KERNEL. the people there will have the clue what 2 do with it. thnx -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug assignee. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I am no expert, but my guess would be that this is relevant to both the 'mount' package and/or the underlying kernel calls that mount uses. Mount might be better in that it is more specific than 'kernel', and hopefully the relevant people there will know quickly if this is a problem with mount or an underlying kernel issue. Again, just my guesses, other people here probably know more about this stuff than me. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug assignee. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Any idea to what package we should move it to? kernel? ** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug assignee. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Actually, I think this should be put to the Ubuntu team, instead of the Kubuntu team. I believe the issue is that in Windows, the USB port is powered down. While in Kubuntu, the disk is only unmounted. The device is not powered down. This means that there is electricity going to the other device. So the problem is not that the lights on USB devices stay on, but that there are no scripts in Linux to power down the USB ports. For hot-pluggable devices, especially USB flash drives, this is not a concern. The devices were designed to be unplugged while powered. As long as they are cleanly unmounted, they will be fine. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I agree, this is a general issue, not Kubuntu-specific. I think the bug should be moved to be relevant to Ubuntu. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I dunno and think all information as a feedback and bug description is already here. thumbs up -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
This bug is still marked 'incomplete'. Is there any particular additional information necessary? It appears to be confirmed by several independent sources based on the above discussion. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug assignee. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I can also confirm this bug, on both Ubuntu and Xubuntu. So this bug appears to be a general issue, not specific to Kubuntu. The symptom is, as with all others, that the light on USB drives stays on after unmounting. There seems to be no data loss, the issue is only 'aesthetic'. However, this aesthetic issue is *very important* to new users of Ubuntu, who will assume the drive has not been properly unmounted/ejected/etc. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug assignee. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I fully agree. would be nice. On Win it turns off, but on Tux it doesnt. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug assignee. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Assignee: Eddie M. = Kubuntu Team -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
I have the same issue on standard Ubuntu. it is that after unmounting the PQI and Sandisk sticks keep their LED on on Linux while both do switch off the light on WIndows. The Swissbit stick switches the LED off on both OS. As others already mentioned, there is no performance problem or data loss. It would just be nice to have the visual feedback that it is safe to unplug, on the stick directly. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90097 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Team, which is a bug contact for kubuntu-meta in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
So, any more information I can provide that you'd consider useful? Is this dependent on the hardware (USB controller, memory stick), do you want the details? Do your memory sticks get un-lighted in linux? Want me to go and buy a new memory stick to test with? ;-) (Seriously, wouldn't help, since I'd probably get the same make model as I already have...) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
No, this is definetly confirmed from me on different sticks. Honestly, i have also had several people asking me why the light dosen't shut off like in Windows and really doubting if it is secure to unplug it that way. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
'Safely remove' unmounts the device, so the light on the usb-storage device means nothing. Umount syncs all cached data to the device, so it can be removed any time, after umount has finished. I have never had an issue with data loss after umounting a device (while I had a problem once, when I forgot to umount it;) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Wit Wilinski: - I know to wait (and ensure) that the device has been properly unmounted. Judging, however, by the report I referenced, and its duplicates, many - understandably, IMO - don't. - I also know that the light means nothing, technically speaking. Psychologically speaking, it would be a very good signal to (physically) show that the process of unmounting the device has run its course. posingaspopular: - Thanks for your concern on this issue. - I have had no performance issues, everything works fast enough, without noticeable delay. - I haven't tested with more than one USB stick, so I can't really answer that question. What I can say that when using the same USB stick on someone else's Windows-computer, the light gets turned off at this point, so the device itself doesn't seem to be the problem. Are you saying that different USB sticks (may) behave differently in this regard? - I recently used the device on the library's Ubuntu (Gnome) machine - I believe they're running Breezy - and got the same behaviour, i.e. the light stayed on. - Finally, as I wrote, I don't really know what process is / should be responsible for powering off the device, but I'm really curious to know. :-) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Hi there, to reproduce the data loss simply copy on a pendrive 200-300MBytes, unmount it through context menu on the desktop and remove the pendrive when the icon disappear from the desktop. Bye Piero -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
IMO turning off the LED on usb-storage device would involve patching the kernel, so this bug should probably be reported upstream, not in K/Ubuntu. I use pretty stock Kubuntu system (just kernel is self-compiled) and desktop icons for removable devices disappear _after_ umount finishes (eg. i get an ugly dialog window with a progress bar at 0%, which then suddenly changes to 100% after umount exits). At this point, all data is flushed, so the device is safe to remove. Tested with iPod Shuffle and 2.5 laptop drive in USB2 enclosure. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
To clarify: - This report is not directly about data loss, nor is it about the desktop icons. The possibility of data loss is simply an additional motivation for the report, and data loss is therefore best discussed elsewhere to keep the discussion here on topic. As Wit Wilinski says, fixing this may well involve patching the kernel. However, I disagree on the suggested bug reporting policy: - As I understand it, (k)ubuntu bugs get reported here. This is the method that is the most accessible for ubuntu users, and this is where ubuntu users are directed to report bugs. - The bugs may (and often do) get reported also upstream. This is what the Launchpad links to other bug trackers serve for. (The bugs may also get reported in other distributions' bug trackers.) - In my understanding, the essential part of the Launchpad philosophy is to try to integrate different sources of bug information. The particular developer who eventually happens to fix the bug may come from Ubuntu, the kernel people, or somewhere else - it doesn't really matter in the end. -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
Is this a problem with the sole USB stick (ie do others work fine) or is it a software issue? Are there any issues with performance? ** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Needs Info -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
assigning to Eddie temporarily ** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = posingaspopular -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
** Summary changed: - USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (and 'sync'/'sudo umount') (KDE) + USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) ** Description changed: Hello. I didn't know whether to file this against 'dbus', 'hal', or some other package. Since I am on Kubuntu Dapper, I decided on 'kubuntu-meta'. (I hope I haven't misunderstood the purpose of that package.) However, it seems probable that the same issue is present also when using Gnome. - After I safely remove a USB memory device, the device light isn't + After I safely remove a USB memory device (and 'sync', or instead of + safely removing do 'sudo umount' for it), the device light isn't turned off, as would be expected. My question is, which process is / should be responsible for powering off the USB stick? If the physical device would show that it was powered off after a safe remove, trusting the process not to cause data loss (see bug #61946) would be a lot easier. + + (I don't really expect 'sync' or 'sudo umount' to do anything to the + light, they're included only to make sure that the device gets properly + unmounted.) -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 90097] Re: USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE)
** Changed in: kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed -- USB memory stick light stays on after safely remove (KDE) https://launchpad.net/bugs/90097 -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
