Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice

2011-02-19 Thread Vishnoo
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 00:36 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 19:30 -0500, coz DS wrote:
 
  We all need to do our part in trying to talk with jbaer,
 other
  than those that already have, to help him understand that
 his behavior
  is not team oriented and a destructive path which only leads
 to people
  leaving the group. 
 
  I personally want to know why this decision... why these
  misleading links ,, What the hell was he thinking!
 
   Events like this, which compound the existing issues
 the group
  has,, only pushes away any possibility of real recognition
 of the
  community art team by canonical!
 
  coz
 
 
 
 I'm +1 on this, exactly why us banning him is not going to
 help.
 
 John needs to explain his actions and course-correct his
 attitude.
 He needs to correct his behavior, or if he is not able to
 correct
 himself he needs to quit on his own.
 
 Someone else banning him wont help here, and might blow this
 'silly
 drama' out of proportion
 
 
 
 To me, this whole situation has already been blown out of proportion. 
 
 
 Really... it's a no brainer. If someone is threatening the team, what
 do you do? Wait and see if the problem resolves itself or take action?
 
 
 Banning a person is the last resource. If you have tried to resolve
 the issue privately and failed, why don't you take it publicly? We can
 have a meeting on IRC with John and the rest of the team and see if we
 can agree on how to move forward. What do you think?
 
 
 Cheers,
  

Sure, a meeting to resolve this sounds good.

Someone kindly take the initiative and set a datetime when John can
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей

 Banning a person is the last resource. If you have tried to resolve the
 issue privately and failed, why don't you take it publicly? We can have a
 meeting on IRC with John and the rest of the team and see if we can agree on
 how to move forward. What do you think?


I don't quite like the idea... I mean, this seems sane, but there are
shortcomings in this approach too. And I think we should consult Ivanka
Majic or Jono Bacon or other experienced person before taking *any* action.
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[ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?

2011-02-19 Thread John Baer
Hello Everyone,

I see a couple of threads on this list have seen much activity. First, I
would caution everyone this is a public list and the words spoke here see a
much broader audience.

I have not read all of the threads but I see from Сергей last comments there
has been a suggestion of banning membership.

I will assume this dialog is directed toward me.

For the sake of discussion let's say I went away. What changes?

The team has one less member to submit artwork.

As I am not aware I have prevented anyone from doing as they wish - what
changes?

My desire has always been to encourage participation. If a member desires to
assume leadership start being a leader as there is no value in the assigning
of blame and the complaining of what could have been.

If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do
better. Find the love as I assume members participate to add value to Ubuntu
and the greater community. There is no value in a rant or flame.

If the driver for all of this is the Flickr group General Illustrations (
http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-10-0/pool/ ), what is the problem?

From where I sit it seems to be working and adding value. It has been
suggested the Design Team will reject these submissions as they were not
posted to the Artwork group. If this is going to be a problem I am sure ***Iain
would have contacted me long ago.

*I encourage everyone to get back to our roots and share your talent by
posting submissions. I firmly believe Ubuntu and the greater community will
appreciate the love.

Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice

2011-02-19 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 16:37 +0530, Vishnoo wrote:
 
 
 Sure, a meeting to resolve this sounds good.
 
 Someone kindly take the initiative and set a datetime when John can
 attend.

We tried that. It didn't work so well. I think we'd need personal
attention from the CC. As an Ubuntu team our communal authority is the
Code of Conduct and the Community Council. Jono and Ivanka are great
people to go to for advice and they will help, but they're not the right
people if they are the only people to get involved.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?

2011-02-19 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 08:59 -0500, John Baer wrote:
 As I am not aware I have prevented anyone from doing as they wish -
 what
 changes?

It's true, you do support and encourage anarchy. You don't prevent
people from being individuals; instead you prevent them being a team.
And that is the crux of the problem John, I'd dearly love you to be a
part of the team, but your actions have shown that you are duplicitous
and untrustworthy when it comes to forming social bonds.

 My desire has always been to encourage participation. If a member
 desires to
 assume leadership start being a leader as there is no value in the
 assigning
 of blame and the complaining of what could have been.

As we know from the CoC, taking leadership is about being decisive and
considerate of everyone. This position requires the most amazing social
skills in order to listen and understand all people, even people that
don't personally agree.

Taking leadership by doing random things in random ways without talking
to anyone isn't leadership. It's awesome for an individual, but it's
unhealthy for a team when those things conflict with other team members;
where your resolution is based on ignoring and continuing to
misrepresent.

 If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do
 better. Find the love as I assume members participate to add value to
 Ubuntu
 and the greater community. There is no value in a rant or flame.

The first aim would be to agree that you are not the Ubuntu ArtWork
Team, you don't represent the collected views of the team and are not
good at forming a consensus.

If you want to do something under the banner of the ArtWork Team, you
would contact the leadership and consult prior to action. This way you
can give a full account and at least some dialectic can take place.

Of course you're free to do anything you like outside of the Ubuntu
ArtWork Team banner, just use your own name and make it clear that no
authority has sanctioned you or even agreed that what you're doing is
sane.

Misuse of the ArtWork Teams name is the up-most important issue for you
to take care of. You are not the leader and do not speak on behalf of
the team, the team is not anarchistic and even if the people _are_
autonomous; the team name must not be free for all chaos and you must
not use it without permission.

 If the driver for all of this is the Flickr group General
 Illustrations (
 http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-10-0/pool/ ), what is the problem?

You did it without asking and then said it was official. Causing chaos
and mistrust.

 From where I sit it seems to be working and adding value.

You are adding one mans value while destroying the entire team. That's
not productive in the grand scheme of things. Your chaos is locally
productive and globally disruptive.

 If this is going to be a problem I am sure ***Iain
 would have contacted me long ago.

I'm not sure why you think he would know, or care to check that people
were being directed to submit art to random places online with the
mistaken promise that they would be judged.

 I firmly believe Ubuntu and the greater community will
 appreciate the love.

Please, consider taking a year or two break. Enough time for us to get a
team leadership founded and the technical roots growing. Then we can
take your submissions and enthusiasm and not have it wilt the social
foundations before they've had time to set.

Best Regards, Martin Owens


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[ubuntu-art] DVD cover

2011-02-19 Thread andres felipe clavijo trochez

Hi, i think it's very nice the work that you are doing, and yes you are realy 
close to the final, but i think that you can add more details to the icons, if 
i'd  have the original file to make some more details and any little changes, 
well, i just want to contribute in this important part, i want you to answer me 
this e-mail, tks.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] DVD cover

2011-02-19 Thread EldiS
Hi. I'm not sure about adding more details, cause I think that would
disbalance overall sleek and clean style of the cover, but if that is
something you think you should work on, it's not a problem. I will
send you a private mail with this psd file, cause I haven't upload it
anywhere yet, and I have a plan tu upload it on spreadubuntu once when
I consider it finished.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Say hello to nathan.

2011-02-19 Thread Saleel Velankar
added to the flickr group.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/islington/5459034272/in/pool-556923@N24/

On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote:

 it could be a couple of things or a conjunction thereof.

 1.shape of eye
 2.lack of defined mouth
 3.styling around eye.

 I will play around with it today, thanks vish!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей
Tux and ubuntu logo now have the same color technically, but not visually.
Ubuntu logo is larger and is surrounded by darker background, so it looks
lighter than Tux. Still inconsistent :)

Ubuntu and GNOME logos on the side also have different shades of aubergine,
it also looks inconsistent. One expects to see monochromatic icons or icons
with some meaningful color. The aubergine shades here don't seem to have any
logic and are still too close to create meaningful contrast, therefore they
look like a mistake.

The center is too pink and too bright now, IMHO. On the other hand, I
haven't seen it in CMYK.

It's up to date... text area looks wider than the circles row despite
being aligned pixel-to-pixel because the circles are visually smaller
(circle is the most visually compact figure of all). Make the text area a
bit more narrow.

The spacing on the back is odd. The circles and It's up to date... text
area don't form a separate block at a glance, and make the picture look very
complex. This feeling goes away after looking at the back for 20 seconds or
so. If I were you, I'd use equal vertical spacing for all the rows of
elements, it would make the whole thing more clear and easy on the eye.
Using different spacing for similar elements on the X and Y axises is
considered to be a good thing. In your case circles in the same row are
related closer than circles in the same column, so making vertical spacing
more than horizontal is logical and natural.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей
2011/2/19 EldiS eldis.des...@gmail.com

 Heh... A lot of dislikes this time. It turned out that I'm going backwards.

No, you are not. You are moving forward. I just can't notice or enumerate
all glitches at once just looking at an in-progress version. For all
previous versions I thought OK, enough for this revision. With my last
post I thought finally, I've ran out of glitches.

About TUX and COF logo on front, yes, I noticed that they still look
 different, but I don't know... I don't see such a big mistake there.
 Maybe I'll do a cutout instead color overlay, to see how it's gonna
 turn out.

Noticeably different, but still qute similar colors on similar elements tend
to look like a mistake. That's not my revelation, it's a well-known thing in
design. Make the color overlays look like the same color, not just be the
same color, and the pic will look much simpler and slicker.

About it's up to date... text area, I think I will leave it like it
 is. I experimented with narrower sizes, and I didn't like it at all.

The point of this tweak is making the text area look the same width as the
block of circles, not just be the same width. But if His Majesty Experiment
turned it down, I can't contradict.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread Сергей

 Things you mentioned are fixed now, if this could be called fixing.

I tend to call it that way since I mess with code more. I know design basics
(revising them right now actually) and that's all, I don't belong to the
design culture.


 I played with Tux color, and I think it looks more slick now.

Yes, it's better. But Tux still looks more saturated on my eye. I'm bold
enough to make a custom version of that piece:
http://img820.imageshack.us/i/ubuntupictogramstyledvd.png/ The colors are a
bit off when zoomed out, but look like the same color when zoomed in. Again,
I haven't seen it in CMYK, so I don't know if this will work for print too.
Even the RGB is not final, I'll have a look at it tomorrow.

Side COF logo is now in the same color as other two icons, and it's
 stil aubergine, cause I'm not sure what shade would seem more logical
 in an aubergine-all-around color space. If you got some suggestion,
 I'm here.

I guess cutout should work well for the side. What's the point of adding a
third color there?

And the aggresive pink is now removed too. :)

Yes, now it looks better IMO. But I don't like pink in general, so maybe
it's just me.

And back spacing is now fixed. Space between first and second row is
 doubled, and it looks more logical now indeed. And funny thing is that
 it turned out that space I used between second row and up-to-date...
 text in the first place, was the same as new doubled space between
 rows of circles.

I'd like to try a layout with equal vertical spacing between all elements.
Could you send me the PSD?

I've noticed two more minor glitches now... First, Tux in the certificate
icon looks not quite centered because the icon is not symmetrical and has
more visual space on the right than on the left. Try moving Tux right a bit.
Second, the ubuntu desktop edition text area doesn't look aligned with
ubuntu logo on the side because a circle is visually smaller than a
rectangle, but I don't think you should bother fixing that because nobody
will ever notice that when the cover is printed and put onto the box.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal

2011-02-19 Thread EldiS
Check your inbox.

I don't know, cutout on the side icons seems to be only alternative to
current shade. And I played with Tux placement already, for the sake
of balancing white area of the pictogram like you said, but to me it
doesn't look that nice, when it's not placed perfectly in the center
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?

2011-02-19 Thread coz DS
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 08:59 -0500, John Baer wrote:
  Hello Everyone,
 
  I see a couple of threads on this list have seen much activity. First,
  I would caution everyone this is a public list and the words spoke
  here see a much broader audience.
 
  I have not read all of the threads but I see from Сергей last comments
  there has been a suggestion of banning membership.
 
  I will assume this dialog is directed toward me.
 
 [...]
  If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do
  better.

 Do you truly mean that?
 If so, read *all* the replies in the other threads, *every* member has
 raised questions regarding your actions and as to your attitude and you
 have not answered any question , you say you realize it is about you and
 yet you did not read those messages and instead start a new thread!

 Dont you have the basic courtesy to reply to the questions raised by the
 whole team?

 This has been your pattern. Every time you are asked a question, you
 have not answered it but just start side-stepping it.
 If you want to be better start with this. Answer the questions first.

 If you choose to keep ignoring the questions from the team, you leave
 the team with no choice but to request the CC to ban you.
 It doesnt matter if you are even the best artist , if you are not a
 team-player then nothing else matters.


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 Hey guys,
   John,  I am going to put my few thoughts in here as well.
I personally do not want to see anyone  leave the group.. anyone
  The dedication and clear success of your efforts to have people post their
works on your links is quite remarkable..
In fact I was drawn into it myself.
   It appeared to be a clear separation of the Ubuntu versions.. easy to
deal with,, and I am assuming, a very happy time for those that were
convinced they may have an opportunity not only to show their talents but
that their pieces may also have the possible chance of being included in the
release this April. Unfortunately, as you already know,  none of those works
will be seen for final judging.
An artist with a clear independent mind is critical for any form of
composition...  the kind of thinker that takes something from here,, a bit
from there,  puts them together is such a way that the  sum is far greater
than its parts
   This group needs people, such as yourself, with the pied piper effect
on others to , in essence, bring them into the fold.
The problem can arise, however, when an independent thinker then joins a
group of other independent thinkers, all of whom are quite capable in their
own right. There is also an additional talent that needs attention, that of
being able to have mature people skills, and the willngness to understand
and deal with other talented , capable, people in our midst, and have the
ability to bow to the consensus of the group.  There are always, under these
circumstances, more than one person's  concepts that will not fit into the
final vision of the product.  There's always the next project!
This sometimes reminds me of  Apple/Mac when they started..
hippies..man ,,, an operating system for the people.. down with corporations
...who hoo!!
  In fact, Apple is indeed a corporation as is Canonical.
We are subject to  Their  final decisions, and visions of the releases of
their operating system.
 The key is being able to bring in people of talent,,willing to work
together, to produce ideas and final visions that Canonical cannot overlook.
I am not an employee of Canonical, as much as I might like that idea,
and I am not sure how few on the community art team are actual employees.
However, without a group's members who are willing to put some independence
aside for the sake of the group and its visions, as well as the willingness
to share their ideas, there is no hope of us being seen as a viable source
for Ubuntu.
I am urging you to put aside whatever  has motivated your actions, and
openly discuss this issue not only on the mailing list but on the irc
#ubuntu-artwork.
   There is more than a good chance, especially when you clear up the
reasons for this, that it can be solved amicably.
Also understand , clearly,, that the people you have successfully convinced
to post their work, are going to be very disappointed that they were never
considered for inclusion into Ubuntu release.
 I would hate, for the group,  to lose someone with the natural
marketing  skills you already possess.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Manish Sinha

On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote:

Hi

On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a
complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is
there a way that i can just download the difference and
regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2.


I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1

All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2

No need to download the full ISO again


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohit R
I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1

You will get a normal update which will change your version number to
10.04.2

Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release
applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading
huge amount of updates.

On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote:

 On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote:

 Hi

 On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a
 complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is
 there a way that i can just download the difference and
 regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2.


 I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1

 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2

 No need to download the full ISO again


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread stereotactic
Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the 
updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and 
necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are 
numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not 
even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1.


Thats one of the main reasons why I shifted to Mint. Truly, it is what 
Ubuntu should actually aim for.


On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:24 PM, Rohit R wrote:

I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1

You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 
10.04.2


Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS 
release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid 
downloading huge amount of updates.


On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net 
mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote:


On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote:

Hi

On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a
complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the
whole iso. Is
there a way that i can just download the difference and
regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2.


I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to
10.04.1

All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2

No need to download the full ISO again


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Netbooks - suggestions and advise

2011-02-19 Thread Kingsly John
+++ Ramnarayan.K [2011-02-01 13:13:00]:

 after finding out and follow up with various agencies we've shortlisted the
 Samsung N 148 1. “Looks like it’s worth it.” Try it. - NP-N148-DP05IN -
 Mini Notebook - Notebook | SAMSUNG. at
 http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/notebook/mini-notebook/NP-N148-DP05IN/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=feature
 
 considering features, costs, linux compatibiity, and customer service

Have you picked up/used said netbooks? Any feedback?

Their website says...

A 6 cell battery, delivers up to 13.5 hours* (6 cell 5,900mAh)/10.0 hours*
(6 cell 4,400mAh*) of power to keep you running all day long.

Which battery are they shipping with by default? (Does the 5900mAh one cost
extra?)

Is the battery life close to advertised numbers?

Kingsly

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:36:46PM +0530, stereotactic wrote:
 Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as
 the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core
 and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need
 (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most
 of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is
 labeled as 1.

Even Ubuntu and Debian for that matter categorise updates in to 'security',
'recommended' and 'miscellaneous'. You see different update notifier icon
in the system notification area for security and other updates. May be Mint
has further categorised them in to 6 levels.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Manish Sinha

On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote:

Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the
updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and
necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are
numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not
even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1.


Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. Right 
now I can see

* Important SecurityUpdates
* Other PPA updates
* Other Updates

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:24:21PM +0530, Rohit R wrote:
 I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1
 
 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to
 10.04.2

'normal update' is what 'apt-get dist-upgrade' does, but on command line
instead of gui.

 
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread stereotactic
Good thing because I haven't really used Ubuntu in a long time and 
rather prefer Mint (for the newbies) instead.


On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:47 PM, Manish Sinha wrote:

On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote:

Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the
updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and
necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are
numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not
even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1.


Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. 
Right now I can see

* Important SecurityUpdates
* Other PPA updates
* Other Updates

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[ubuntu-in] Need a feed aggregator

2011-02-19 Thread stereotactic

Hi All,

I need an offline feed aggregator which should also be able to output 
the URL.


Here's what I have in my mind.

1) I feed in the RSS feeds from different sources.
2) Filter out the content using keywords.
3) The filtered content be available as an OPML file so that I can use 
it on my Google Reader.


Is there any solution like that for Ubuntu?

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohit R
I meant that apt-get upgrade (just upgrading packages) is enough and that
apt-get dist-upgrade is not necessary. I dont think maintenance releases
show up in dist-upgrade.

On 19 February 2011 16:00, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote:

 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:24:21PM +0530, Rohit R wrote:
  I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1
 
  You will get a normal update which will change your version number to
  10.04.2

 'normal update' is what 'apt-get dist-upgrade' does, but on command line
 instead of gui.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohit R
If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and
not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running
apt-get upgrade

As I said earlier, the maintenance release is just for fresh installs to
avoid downloading the updates provided after the LTS release.

On 19 February 2011 15:24, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1

 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to
 10.04.2

 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release
 applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading
 huge amount of updates.


 On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote:

 On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote:

 Hi

 On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a
 complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is
 there a way that i can just download the difference and
 regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2.


 I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1

 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2

 No need to download the full ISO again


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohan Garg
Not true!!!
As long as you don't have maverick sources in your sources.list, it won't
upgrade to maverick if you use dist-upgrade
On 19 Feb 2011 16:40, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohit R
Ohh sorry, my bad.

On 19 February 2011 16:42, Rohan Garg rohang...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Not true!!!
 As long as you don't have maverick sources in your sources.list, it won't
 upgrade to maverick if you use dist-upgrade
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Manish Sinha

On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote:

If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed
and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just
running apt-get upgrade


Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohan Garg
Right, and now if you update your sources, and dist upgrade, you will have
10.04.2
On 19 Feb 2011 17:07, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote:
 On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote:
 If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed
 and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just
 running apt-get upgrade

 Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Narendra Diwate
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote:

 On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote:

 Hi

 On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a
 complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is
 there a way that i can just download the difference and
 regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2.


 I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1
 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2. No
 need to download the full ISO again



Thanks. But I don't have Ubuntu Installed. Just have the iso that i wanted
to update to 10.04.2 without needing to download the whole iso. i think
zsysnc should do it.

I too have shifted to Linux Mint Debian edition, primarily for its Rolling
Release. Updates too are easier as i now don't look at levels 3 and higher.
I just focus on level 1  2. Also installed debdelta which looks like it
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Nitesh Mistry
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 05:06:56PM +0530, Manish Sinha wrote:
 On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote:
 If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed
 and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just
 running apt-get upgrade
 
 Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04

Compare it with Safe upgrade and Full Upgrade in Synaptic (or used to
be; don't remember since I haven't used it recently).

Safe Upgrade = apt-get upgrade : if upgrading any package causes removal of
another package, such package is held back.

Full Upgrade = apt-get dist-upgrade : all packages are upgraded, even if
upgrading any package caused another package to be removed.

In both cases, the system is on the same release (10.04). It does not
upgrade to 10.10.

I daily do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on my lucid machine, and I can confirm it
is still lucid and not maverick. :)

Just writing out of my own experience. Trying to dig out some material on
it (referred to it ages ago).


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[ubuntu-in] Mailing list etiquettes

2011-02-19 Thread Nitesh Mistry
Not trying to point this to someone or forcing any rules here, but
considering quite a few new participants on this list, I just wanted to
share this definitive guide on mailing list etiquettes here:

http://pthree.org/?p=1426

The link is to the first of the 4 part series.


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Re: [ubuntu-in] Netbooks - suggestions and advise

2011-02-19 Thread Ramnarayan.K
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Kingsly John member+ubu...@kingsly.net wrote:
 +++ Ramnarayan.K [2011-02-01 13:13:00]:

 after finding out and follow up with various agencies we've shortlisted the
 Samsung N 148 1. “Looks like it’s worth it.” Try it. - NP-N148-DP05IN -
 Mini Notebook - Notebook | SAMSUNG. at
 http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/notebook/mini-notebook/NP-N148-DP05IN/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=feature

 considering features, costs, linux compatibiity, and customer service

 Have you picked up/used said netbooks? Any feedback?

 Their website says...

 A 6 cell battery, delivers up to 13.5 hours* (6 cell 5,900mAh)/10.0 hours*
 (6 cell 4,400mAh*) of power to keep you running all day long.

 Which battery are they shipping with by default? (Does the 5900mAh one cost
 extra?)

 Is the battery life close to advertised numbers?

they came in yesterday

anm figuring how how to install Ubuntu (maybe mint maybe the vanilla
version maybe Ultimate edition am not sure\

figuring which is better unetbookin or usbstart up disk creator

also am stuck with world cup but by monday will post the review etc

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Need a feed aggregator

2011-02-19 Thread Mehul Ved
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:09 PM, stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I need an offline feed aggregator which should also be able to output the
 URL.

 Here's what I have in my mind.

 1) I feed in the RSS feeds from different sources.
 2) Filter out the content using keywords.
 3) The filtered content be available as an OPML file so that I can use it on
 my Google Reader.

 Is there any solution like that for Ubuntu?

Thunderbird can do 1 and 3.

Yahoo pipes can do all the three things but it's a web application.

If none of the above 2 work, you can write a script in your favourite
scripting language.

I have done the same thing that you're looking for using yahoo pipes.
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India LoCo approval renewal

2011-02-19 Thread Arjuna Rao Chavala
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 As you might have known we need to renew our LoCo approval. I am busy
 with other life stuff and hence can't take up this task. But I am
 ready to continue maintaining the servers, mailing lists and all other
 backend stuff for the LoCo. In order to push the LoCo's reach further
 (organising events, meetings, evangelism, workshops etc), we need some
 volunteers.

 From the past 2-3 months of activity, I propose the following names
 for being LoCo contacts and carrying the flag further. Comments
 welcome.

 [in no specific order]

 1. Nigel Babu
 2. Nitesh Mistry
 3. Manish [sinha?]
 4. Maithraya (who is currently preparing for an exam)


Fine with me

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download

2011-02-19 Thread Rohan Garg
AFAIK debdelta does not work on ubuntu currently, although If it did, i'd
say it would work for all packages, not for a certain set of packages.
On 19 Feb 2011 23:26, stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote:
 How is debdelta installed for Ubuntu? Is it system wide or for specific
 packages alone?

 On Saturday 19 February 2011 05:20 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net
 mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote:

 On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote:

 Hi

 On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a
 complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the
 whole iso. Is
 there a way that i can just download the difference and
 regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2.


 I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to
 10.04.1
 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto
 10.04.2. No need to download the full ISO again


 Thanks. But I don't have Ubuntu Installed. Just have the iso that i
 wanted to update to 10.04.2 without needing to download the whole iso.
 i think zsysnc should do it.

 I too have shifted to Linux Mint Debian edition, primarily for its
 Rolling Release. Updates too are easier as i now don't look at levels
 3 and higher. I just focus on level 1  2. Also installed debdelta
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Re: [ubuntu-in] Need a feed aggregator

2011-02-19 Thread stereotactic
Thanks! But there is more than this basic need. (This is the response 
from the developer on the site). I am looking for a possibility of 
having this on the Desktop/Cloud based solution.


Here's what I propose:

Check out the site ( http://schema-root.org ) built from scratch using 
PHP and MySQL.


The newsfeed items on these pages are derived*from external RSS feeds* 
that *he parses and store in his database.*


He then reconstitutes newsfeeds from that database, using some criteria, 
and *cross-referencing various strings* that appear in the items with 
*links that point back* into his own topic tree.


The design of his site has been as needed.

The idea is to provide articles from reliable sources, and to avoid 
stories from unreliable sources.


This means that the solution provided needs to filter out the spam.  Can 
a Desktop solution be made or is there anything like that? I am a doctor 
with zero coding skills. This can be applied to anything a person needs. 
Suppose you need to track news related to a particular sector, drop the 
feeds from any site which has RSS feeds. And you would get the most 
relevant news every day. For Engineering guys, track developments 
related to start ups/ jobs/papers.


The icing on the cake is to get Twitter which allows searches for 
relevant hash tags and outputs this as the RSS feed. So you stay 
current; the OPML file be routed to a RSS Reader like Google Reader or 
anything that you have on desktop.


On Sunday 20 February 2011 12:07 AM, Mehul Ved wrote:

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:09 PM, stereotacticmaill...@postinbox.com  wrote:

Hi All,

I need an offline feed aggregator which should also be able to output the
URL.

Here's what I have in my mind.

1) I feed in the RSS feeds from different sources.
2) Filter out the content using keywords.
3) The filtered content be available as an OPML file so that I can use it on
my Google Reader.

Is there any solution like that for Ubuntu?

Thunderbird can do 1 and 3.

Yahoo pipes can do all the three things but it's a web application.

If none of the above 2 work, you can write a script in your favourite
scripting language.

I have done the same thing that you're looking for using yahoo pipes.
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread LeDucDuBleuet

Le 2011-02-19 01:14, Gilbert Dion a écrit :


Pourquoi faudrait-il avoir le choix de sessions en différentes 
langues, au fait? Windows ou Mac l'offrent-ils?




Pour le choix de la langue dans ce cas, c'était pour satisfaire les 
besoins d'André qui veut offrir des profils anglais, français et espagnol.
J'sais plus trop pour les autres mais en Ubuntu, on peut avoir la langue 
personnalisée par usager comme vous savez!
Par contre, il semble qu'on ne puisse plus avoir l'option de langue dans 
la fenêtre de connexion depuis GDM2...

:-)
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread Gilbert Dion
Je prends le parti de garder la station Ubuntu en français, surtout si c'est
complexe de proposer des profils en différentes langues. Cela n'empêche
personne de naviguer sur internet dans la langue de son choix. Le poste
Windows, à côté, il est en quelle langue, lui, hein?

*Gilbert*


Le 19 février 2011 11:10, LeDucDuBleuet ele...@leducdubleuet.biz a écrit :

 Le 2011-02-19 01:14, Gilbert Dion a écrit :


 Pourquoi faudrait-il avoir le choix de sessions en différentes langues, au
 fait? Windows ou Mac l'offrent-ils?


 Pour le choix de la langue dans ce cas, c'était pour satisfaire les besoins
 d'André qui veut offrir des profils anglais, français et espagnol.
 J'sais plus trop pour les autres mais en Ubuntu, on peut avoir la langue
 personnalisée par usager comme vous savez!
 Par contre, il semble qu'on ne puisse plus avoir l'option de langue dans la
 fenêtre de connexion depuis GDM2...
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[Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread Christian_Parent

je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion
d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les
modules pour inventaires sont payant.

J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement.

De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

Merci
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread LeDucDuBleuet

Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit :

je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion
d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les
modules pour inventaires sont payant.

J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement.

De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

Merci
Christian Parent
A.K.A Mobidoy :)


Salut Mobidoy!

Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur 
quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP

C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien 
qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet.


Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP

C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant!

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread LeDucDuBleuet

Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit :

Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit :
je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de 
gestion
d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais 
malheureusement, les

modules pour inventaires sont payant.

J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement.

De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

Merci
Christian Parent
A.K.A Mobidoy :)


Salut Mobidoy!

Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur 
quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP

C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc 
bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur 
Internet.


Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP

C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant!

Merci,
Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :)



J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo
C'est vraiment Web celui-là!
Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch!
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread Christian Parent

Merci Eric de ta suggestion,

justement, je l'installais (suggestion de Fabiàn) et à ma surprise, il y 
à un client web donc, ca serait parfait.


Il ne me reste qu'à fair efonctionner le tout et je vous tiens au 
courant :)


Merci
Christian Parent
A.K.A Mobidoy

On 11-02-19 01:17 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote:

Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit :
je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de 
gestion
d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais 
malheureusement, les

modules pour inventaires sont payant.

J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement.

De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

Merci
Christian Parent
A.K.A Mobidoy :)


Salut Mobidoy!

Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur 
quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP

C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc 
bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur 
Internet.


Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP

C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant!

Merci,
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread Christian Parent

On 11-02-19 01:21 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote:

Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit :

Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit :
je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module 
de gestion
d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais 
malheureusement, les

modules pour inventaires sont payant.

J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement.

De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

Merci
Christian Parent
A.K.A Mobidoy :)


Salut Mobidoy!

Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur 
quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP

C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc 
bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur 
Internet.


Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP

C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant!

Merci,
Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :)



J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo
C'est vraiment Web celui-là!
Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch!
À+
Eric


Merci, j'y jette un oeil à l'instant :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread spam spammer
Nous avons créer des profils pour chaque langue et ils demeureront en place.
C'est plus simple et plus *courtois!* Il arrive fort trop souvent que les
sys-op, programmeurs, etc., voient les choses uniquement de leur point de
vue. Le seul point de vue qui compte c'est celui de *l'utilisateur*. Nous
nous devons de rendre les choses de ce point de vue à l'intérieur des
paramètres définies.
Mais je tiens à vous remercier tous pour toutes les idées et suggestions
jusqu'ici! Merci encore.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread Gilbert Dion
Le 19 février 2011 14:44, spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com a écrit
:

 Nous avons créer des profils pour chaque langue et ils demeureront en
 place.


Ça inclut l'italien, le chinois, le portugais, le yiddish, le farsi?
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread Michael Faille
En voici une autre suggestion (ouvrir les url ci-dessous est fortement
suggéré):
lstp+edubuntu

LSTP:
Site hote : http://www.ltsp.org/
Description: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project

Edubuntu:
Site hote: http://www.edubuntu.org/news/10.10-release
Tutorial: http://edubuntu.org/documentation/ltsp-live

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2011/2/19 spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com

 Nous avons créer des profils pour chaque langue et ils demeureront en
 place. C'est plus simple et plus *courtois!* Il arrive fort trop souvent
 que les sys-op, programmeurs, etc., voient les choses uniquement de leur
 point de vue. Le seul point de vue qui compte c'est celui de *
 l'utilisateur*. Nous nous devons de rendre les choses de ce point de vue à
 l'intérieur des paramètres définies.
 Mais je tiens à vous remercier tous pour toutes les idées et suggestions
 jusqu'ici! Merci encore.

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread Michael Faille
Personnelement, je préfère celui-ci:
http://www.adempiere.com

Il y a cette entreprise qui démontre le potentiel d'adempiere aka Adaxa (nom
de marketing d'une compagnie du meme nom) vs TOUS les grands erp
competiteurs: http://www.adaxa.com/compare

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2011/2/19 Christian Parent christian.paren...@gmail.com

 On 11-02-19 01:21 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote:

 Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit :

 Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit :

 je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de
 gestion
 d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement,
 les
 modules pour inventaires sont payant.

 J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement.

 De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

 Merci
 Christian Parent
 A.K.A Mobidoy :)


 Salut Mobidoy!

 Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique
 je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même.
 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP

 C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien
 qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet.

 Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia:
 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP

 C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant!

 Merci,
 Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :)


 J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo
 C'est vraiment Web celui-là!
 Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch!
 À+
 Eric

  Merci, j'y jette un oeil à l'instant :)

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread spam spammer
2011/2/19 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com


 Ça inclut l'italien, le chinois, le portugais, le yiddish, le farsi?


Far*seur*. Le terminal est dirigé envers la clientèle habituelle du café...
http://www.leseptieme.com/ et
http://portail.ilesansfil.org/?gwid=0016b6da9ae9
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5113274164 ...

Pero, è vero che parlo italiano anch'io allora forse, non lo so, non sono
certo. Aber, ich denke, dass ist zu berücksichtigen. Und dir?

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread spam spammer
2011/2/19 Michael Faille michael.faill...@ens.etsmtl.ca

 En voici une autre suggestion (ouvrir les url ci-dessous est fortement
 suggéré):
 lstp+edubuntu

 LSTP:
 Site hote : http://www.ltsp.org/
 Description: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project


WOW! Merci bien!
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread Gilbert Dion
Le 19 février 2011 16:50, spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com a écrit
:



 2011/2/19 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com


 Ça inclut l'italien, le chinois, le portugais, le yiddish, le farsi?


 Far*seur*. Le terminal est dirigé envers la clientèle habituelle du
 café... http://www.leseptieme.com/ et
 http://portail.ilesansfil.org/?gwid=0016b6da9ae9
 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5113274164 ...

 Pero, è vero che parlo italiano anch'io allora forse, non lo so, non sono
 certo. Aber, ich denke, dass ist zu berücksichtigen. Und dir?

 Διόνυσος-Ανδρέας.


Pourle service en français, faites le 1.
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.

2011-02-19 Thread spam spammer
Monsieur, et j’emploie le mot au sens le plus large du terme, Dion,

Ma langue maternelle est l'anglais. Mais je crois que ma maîtrise du
français est suffisamment développé pour vous trouver, comment dire,
ennuyeux!?
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire

2011-02-19 Thread Christian Parent

Merci Michael,

je vais l'essayer

On 11-02-19 04:29 PM, Michael Faille wrote:

Personnelement, je préfère celui-ci:
http://www.adempiere.com

Il y a cette entreprise qui démontre le potentiel d'adempiere aka 
Adaxa (nom de marketing d'une compagnie du meme nom) vs TOUS les 
grands erp competiteurs: http://www.adaxa.com/compare


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2011/2/19 Christian Parent christian.paren...@gmail.com 
mailto:christian.paren...@gmail.com


On 11-02-19 01:21 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote:

Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit :

Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit :

je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning)
avec un module de gestion
d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm
mais malheureusement, les
modules pour inventaires sont payant.

J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus
malheureusement.

De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web.

Merci
Christian Parent
A.K.A Mobidoy :)


Salut Mobidoy!

Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton
bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP

C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien
client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera
pas au travers du navigateur Internet.

Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP

C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant!

Merci,
Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :)


J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo
C'est vraiment Web celui-là!
Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon
HP/Touch!
À+
Eric

Merci, j'y jette un oeil à l'instant :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Paul Sutton




I really don't understand why the one on the LibreOffice website is so 
complicated to try and get it to work. It might scare some people away 
from using it, which would be a shame. I'm sure they'll make it easier 
as time passes though.


e-mail them and say it looks complex and why,   they are open to 
suggestions and comments,   or i have found oss projects are in general


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote:


@Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just 
installing LibreOffice with the PPA.


The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way is if you don't use 
Evolution for email. The ppa version will NOT use any other address book 
as a source for addresses in mail merges...whereas the version directly 
from LO will


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[ubuntu-uk] Minecraft

2011-02-19 Thread Jacob Mansfield
Hi all,
I'm looking for some people to join me in creating a 'Let's Play'
series on minecraft.
It would be sort of like lost, in that a group of people arrive in an
unknown location and have to survive.
I'l looking for 5-10 players, with minecraft and glc (or any other
decent screen recorder)
email me off-list or just join the server:

megacat.cyberkingsolutions.co.uk:25565

Jacob Mansfield
Programmer
CyberKing Solutions™
www.cyberkingsolutions.co.uk - I do know the database is down

When Windows™ is opened the bugs come in.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 19/02/11 10:26, Neil Greenwood wrote:
On 19 Feb 2011, at 08:59, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com 
wrote:



On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote:


@Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just 
installing LibreOffice with the PPA.


The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way is if you don't use 
Evolution for email. The ppa version will NOT use any other address 
book as a source for addresses in mail merges...whereas the version 
directly from LO will



That sounds like a bug, or at least a feature request.

Cofion/regards,
Neil.

It's certainly not a bug - it's been a missing feature for a long time 
AFAIR


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Sean Miller
On 19 February 2011 07:00, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote:

 On 19/02/2011 06:05, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote:

 @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the
 developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to
 their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try
 to incorporate their own proprietary database system in somehow. I could
 be
 wrong, but that's just my opinion of it.


 Yes, you'd expect Oracle to want to make money - it's what they do - and
 that means only giving (some) things to people who pay.  So they're bound to
 look for ways of doing that with stuff that Sun used to give away for
 nothing.


I don't think that interaction with the Oracle RDBMS would necessarily be a
bad move, or MySQL which - of course - is also now Oracle's.

Having worked with Oracle for 22 years I think I perhaps have less distrust
of Larry Ellison's company than some - let's face it, Sun Microsystems were
no less corporate than Oracle yet nobody seemed to have the issues with them
they do now that Oracle owns the code.  I recall in 1989 actually being
credited for a feature in Oracle 6, the company used to regularly solicit
suggestions from companies using their tools.

Sun wasn't any more not for profit than Oracle is.  I'm trying to think
what our Solaris servers cost back in 1993... I think for 4 workstations and
a server it was somewhere around £500,000.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread mac

On 19/02/2011 13:16, Sean Miller wrote:

Having worked with Oracle for 22 years I think I perhaps have less distrust
of Larry Ellison's company than some


Oh, I don't distrust them.  On the contrary, I trust them to do what 
they do very well:  invent ways of making money.  In the case of OOo, 
that will mean trying to 'extend' and 'monetise' it.


snip


Sun wasn't any more not for profit than Oracle is.  I'm trying to think
what our Solaris servers cost back in 1993


Yes, indeed, of course Sun did sell things for profit - but not Open 
Office, which Oracle will want to find ways of making money out of.  And 
one guesses they will do that by introducing proprietary 'enhancements'.


So if you want 'free' in both senses, looks like Libre Office is the 
only show in town.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question

2011-02-19 Thread Rob Beard

On 19/02/11 15:54, Barry Titterton wrote:

I recently created a persistent live USB for the first time. It worked
perfectly but there is one aspect of its behaviour that I do not
understand:

I used a 4Gb stick. After creating the stick in 10.10 using the built-in
disk/USB creator, I added Restricted Extras as well as creating a couple
of files to test that the persistence worked, which it did. However, at
this point I ran Update Manager which downloaded and installed approx
210Mb of updates. Before the update I had 2.7Gb of free space, but after
updating this had shrunk to only 1.5Gb. I thought that I had done
something wrong so I formatted the stick and repeated the whole
installation, but got exactly the same result.

Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live
USB?
Is there an easy way to get any of this space back, or should I avoid
running Update Manager?

Barry T




When you do updates it will cache the package files that it has 
downloaded.  If you run the command:


sudo apt-get clean

...from a terminal it will clear out the archive packages and hopefully 
free up some space :-)


You'll probably not notice it so much when you install to a hard drive 
as generally you'll have much more free space (unless you happen to be 
running on old kit with a smaller hard drive).


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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-19 Thread Alan Pope
Hi all,

As you can see by the website, we're returning with Season 4 of the
Ubuntu UK Podcast in 10 days.

http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/

We're changing things a little in that we'll record the show live on a
Tuesday evening at ~20:30 and then release it as a podcast the next
day. We'll update the site nearer the time with details of how to
listen in and of course how to get in contact, but for those of you
who already have the details, they won't change:-

Twitter: http://twitter.com/uupc
Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/uupc
Email: podc...@ubuntu-uk.org
Phone: +44 (0) 203 298 1600
sip: podc...@sip.ubuntu-uk.org
skype: ubuntuukpodcast

It'll still be about an hour long and contain much the same content as
previous years. Contributions, suggestions, comments as ever are very
welcome!

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning

2011-02-19 Thread Matthew Wild
On 19 February 2011 20:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 As you can see by the website, we're returning with Season 4 of the
 Ubuntu UK Podcast in 10 days.


Podcast \o/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question

2011-02-19 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 19 February 2011 15:54, Barry Titterton
barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com wrote:
 I recently created a persistent live USB for the first time. It worked
 perfectly but there is one aspect of its behaviour that I do not
 understand:

 I used a 4Gb stick. After creating the stick in 10.10 using the built-in
 disk/USB creator, I added Restricted Extras as well as creating a couple
 of files to test that the persistence worked, which it did. However, at
 this point I ran Update Manager which downloaded and installed approx
 210Mb of updates. Before the update I had 2.7Gb of free space, but after
 updating this had shrunk to only 1.5Gb. I thought that I had done
 something wrong so I formatted the stick and repeated the whole
 installation, but got exactly the same result.

 Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live
 USB?
 Is there an easy way to get any of this space back, or should I avoid
 running Update Manager?


Hi Barry,

Yes, it's expected behaviour. There's no way to get the space back
unless you re-create the USB stick.

What's happening? The stick is created from the ISO. ISO images are
read-only, so the persistent storage is implemented by a copy-on-write
overlay of the filesystem. What this does is read any unchanged file
from the ISO image but create a copy whenever a file is written to.
When you do an update, lots of files are changed from the original
stored in the ISO image, so lots of your persistent storage
disappears.

Before I understood this, I tried to do a version update on a live USB
stick - it ran out of space!

HTH.
Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question

2011-02-19 Thread Jim Price

On 19/02/11 15:54, Barry Titterton wrote:

I recently created a persistent live USB for the first time. It worked
perfectly but there is one aspect of its behaviour that I do not
understand:

I used a 4Gb stick. After creating the stick in 10.10 using the built-in
disk/USB creator, I added Restricted Extras as well as creating a couple
of files to test that the persistence worked, which it did. However, at
this point I ran Update Manager which downloaded and installed approx
210Mb of updates. Before the update I had 2.7Gb of free space, but after
updating this had shrunk to only 1.5Gb. I thought that I had done
something wrong so I formatted the stick and repeated the whole
installation, but got exactly the same result.

Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live
USB?


The size of the downloaded packages is a lot smaller than the space they 
occupy once installed, because the package files are compressed. It 
sounds about right, although you can reduce that by about 20% by setting 
the option to delete package files after installation in the update 
manager settings. The problem occurs because the packages are not being 
integrated into the compressed LiveCD image, but installed fully in the 
persistent filesystem space.



Is there an easy way to get any of this space back, or should I avoid
running Update Manager?


Set update manager to only install security updates, as you don't want 
to miss those. Also, if you are using 10.04, the 10.04.2 update came out 
on the 17th (nominally - about 26 o'clock I think). That includes recent 
updates slipstreamed onto the new CD, so if you use that, you will save 
a lot of space compared to using a 10.04 or 10.04.1 CD and doing the 
updates. It's no help if you need to use 10.10. There is a way of 
creating your own bootable CD or DVD image with customised packages, 
using remastersys, but it is a bit more involved than the USB creator.


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Re: GNOME Shell has been removed from the repositories?

2011-02-19 Thread Bilal Akhtar
Hi Jo-Erland,

This was discussed in the below bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/690045

GNOME shell depends on several GNOME 3 libraries, most of which haven't
(yet) made their way into Ubuntu. This will be fixed very soon when
packages from the Ubuntu GNOME 3 ppa will be uploaded to Natty. After
that only we'll re-add GNOME shell into the archive.

Bilal Akhtar.

On 02/19/2011 07:52 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote:
 I've noticed that gnome-shell is not provided in the repositories for
 Natty. It used to be available in universe, from Karmic to Maverick.
 Why is this no longer the case?
 
 I strongly believe that GNOME Shell should be available in the
 repositories, and preferably in main. There is already too much talk
 about Ubuntu moving away from GNOME. Removing gnome-shell from the
 repositories will encourage that misconception. I personally remain
 somewhat sceptical about both Unity and GNOME Shell, but I loudly
 applaud the efforts of both projects to innovate and modernize the
 desktop. I also think both projects show great promise, and I'm really
 looking forward to see how they progress as they mature and are
 exposed to a greater audience.
 
 And I am a little concerned that by both switching to use Unity by
 default and removing the main competitor -- GNOME Shell -- from the
 repositories, it may seem like Ubuntu is using its power as the most
 popular distro to eliminate competition. You will get Unity for free,
 it will be installed and used by default. GNOME Shell, on the other
 hand... You'll need to search the web, try to find a good PPA, add the
 repository and then install it -- if you're really that interested. I
 am really hesitant to mention the comparison that automatically
 springs to my mind: Microsoft killed Netscape by providing Internet
 Explorer for free and, more importantly, installing it by default. No
 doubt, it's quite an efficient means of ridding oneself of
 competition, but it really doesn't seem to be in the spirit of Ubuntu.
 
 I don't want to come across as accusing anyone of doing that. But I am
 concerned that's the way people will interpret it and that it'll help
 fuel tribalism. I strongly believe that the competition between GNOME
 Shell and Unity will bring out the best in both of them, but that will
 require both of them to be exposed to as vast an audience as possible.
 I'm not saying that GNOME Shell should be promoted or installed by
 default, only that it should be available from the repositories, at
 the very least in universe. I think that by promoting it to main, that
 would send a strong signal that Canonical and Ubuntu are not in
 conflict with GNOME. Also, if people are able to easily try GNOME
 Shell, then if people do stick with it, developers of Unity has a much
 better chance of learning why they do so, which will enable them to
 improve. The same would be true for GNOME Shell, of course: if people
 try it and chooses to use Unity instead, then they will have the
 opportunity to learn. The question, therefore, is is Ubuntu going to
 enable the community around it to be able to improve?. These are the
 important things in the free software community, and if Ubuntu can do
 that, then it will have done something important, that will be
 appreciated... :)
 
 In summary: The current situation makes Unity a symbol of conflict and
 an excuse for tribalism, which is as ironic as it is sad. The best
 solution is to promote it to main.
 
 Thanks for reading,
 
 Jo-Erlend Schinstad
 


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Left over CDs from the LCA 2011 Open Day

2011-02-19 Thread Jared Norris
Good afternoon all,

In the interests of transparency I thought I would let you all know
that the all of the spare CDs have been now been distributed amongst
the community. Over the past few weeks the Ubuntu-AU team has been
able to send bulk CDs to:

Sydney - to be distributed amongst high school IT students - thanks
Matthew Boden!
Melbourne - to be used for the Ubuntu-AU ongoing CD distribution
efforts and also for use with groups like Computer Bank  Linux Users
Victoria (LUV) - good work Peter Baker!
Brisbane - donated to Home Unix Brisbane User Group (HUMBUG) to use to
distribute to new IT students at various O week functions in the
coming week as part of their efforts.

Paul Gear had been organising a sticker order for the team as well so
when that seemed to fall through somewhere along the line we were able
to make up the order from the CDs and sticker left overs. I'm lead to
believe these have all now been distributed as well, good work Paul,
sounds like you were able to get a heap of them out.

I apologise for making these decisions quickly but with less than 2
months before the new release which will make these CDs obsolete I
wanted to make the best use of them as quickly as possible. I'm now
confident the vast majority of the CDs we had leftover will not be
sitting in someone's garage or bedroom cupboard just waiting to be
used but will now actually be put to good use as they were intended to
by Canonical.

Lastly I would like to thank Canonical for providing these CDs and
other paraphernalia we were able to use for the LCA event and beyond,
I think the whole process has been quite a success.


Regards,

Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
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Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pool [2011-02-17 18:02 +1100]:
 https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/BuildFromBranchIntoPrimary

 How do we distinguish commits that ought to be built from those that
 don't?

A very common workflow for packages is to commit the actual changes to
the package while keeping the upload target as UNRELEASED. Once you
want to upload it, you do dch -r to flip the upload target to
natty (or maverick-proposed, etc.), and commit that change with
debcommit -r, which will also tag the revision with the package
version number. In order to fulfill the at least as secure
requirement, we'd need to additionally GPG-sign that release commit.

So IMHO a package should be built on each commit which has a tag and a
GPG signature.

Thanks!

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Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 08:47:04 am Martin Pitt wrote:
 Scott Kitterman [2011-02-17  6:51 -0500]:
  1. From the LEP: Disabling dput uploads is not a nice to have.
 
 While we shouldn't disable it in general, ever (see my other reply),
 I'd highly welcome disabling dput on a per-package basis. I waste a
 lot of time cleaning up behind people who just upload one of my
 packages without committing their changes to bzr.
 
Except, as you know, they aren't yours.  I don't think we want to change the 
Ubuntu philosophy on package maintainers.  Perhaps it would be possible to 
streamline the fixup process with additional automation so it wouldn't be a 
problem for you?

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Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive

2011-02-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Loïc Minier loic.min...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 19, 2011, Scott Kitterman wrote:
 Perhaps a reasonable middle ground would be some new X-USE-UDD field (pick a
 better name please) in debian/control and a changet to dput that would either
 ask an are you sure y/N question or require -f to upload.  That way it 
 could
 be set without needed any changes on the launchpad end.

  Actually I liked Steve Langasek's approach of putting the UDD branch in
  Vcs-Bzr when the UDD branch is used to stage UNRELEASED changes

  (We usually don't but lp:ubuntu URLs in Vcs-Bzr because it's kind of
  implicit that we have this branch in every package, but there is not
  way to tell whether the UDD branch is in use or not; listing it
  explicitly when it's used solves this)

Perhaps making the resolution behaviour when someone uses dput better
would be sufficient to avoid this sort of extra configuration?

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Xubuntu Community Meeting 2011-02-03 minutes

2011-02-19 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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= 2011-02-10 Meeting Minutes =

== Old Business ==

 * Old business - all
  * Xubuntu marketing plans - carried forward
  * We need to start either a ML item or webpage item for marketing

== Team updates ==

=== Packaging  Development ===

 * A few syncs/merges from debian experimental (now that squeeze is
   released, xfce 4.8 is being uploaded)
 * Some bugfixes on xubuntu-default-settings, and a few patches
   submitted upstream to fix some minor issues
 * Natty deadline for any updates is Feb 24th for non-bugfix

=== Bug Triage  Testing ===

 * We tested and released Natty Narwhal Alpha2! Great job, and many
   thanks to everybody that helped

=== Website  Marketing ===

 * Suggestion from ochosi - it would be great if the first page would
   show the slideshow that is shown during installation.
 * Template for new website design:
   http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/xubuntu1104c.png
  * the idea is to go with the new branding, and in general make the
   intro page simple and clean
 * it was also suggested that we make the news items more interesting,
   get more creative with something like alpha 3 released - now with
   shiny chromium theme!
 * ochosi to write an article about artwork due for news on website

=== Artwork ===

 * ochosi has been working pretty hard lately to make the resize-grip
   less obnoxious
 * ochosi and knome will put together some logo designs to be discussed
   as the menu icon
 * The proposed generic icons for default apps in xubuntu are now being
   discussed.
  * [VOTE] This is to determine use of a generic icon in the launchers,
   while keeping the brand icon in the menu
   * 4 for, 2 against, motion carried to use generic icons
  * [ACTION] ochosi and mr_pouit will change panel launchers to generic
   icons
 * if we have dropped the word Applications from the menu, we need to
   update the docs again

== Updates for Xubuntu 10.04.2 ==

 * We will be testing the images for 10.04.2 February 15

== Announcements ==

 * Natty Narwhal Alpha2 will release today

== Any Other Business ==

 * hunderbird-locales still needs testing in maverick-proposed if
   anyone had time
 * Next meeting is in one week, Frebruary 17, #ubuntu-meeting, at 19:00
   UTC.
 *
   [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2011-02-10
   | Meeting log]]

== Action items for the 2011-02-10 meeting ==

 * ochosi and knome will put together some logo designs to be discussed
   as the menu icon
 * ochosi and mr_pouit will change panel launchers to generic icons
 * ochosi to write an article about artwork due for news on website

== Carried Forward ==

Please see the [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Xubuntu_2010-01-10
| previous log]]

=== Xubuntu Governance ===

 * The governancy part of the current Strategy Document can be found at
   [[Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu Governance  Team Structure]]
 * The Xubuntu project will advance towards a Council-based governance
   approach.

=== The Xubuntu Council ===

 * The Council size should be 5 members, with one of them being the PL.
 * PL will have a vote in every voting in the Council, not just as a
   tie-breaker.
 * The 4 members in the Council in addition to the PL should be
   selected by the existing Xubuntu Contributors.
 * The appropriate Team Lead can be the tiebreaker in a vote, but only
   if PL is absent.
 * The council should *aim* to have balanced membership across the
   different aspects/teams of Xubuntu.
 * The council should be named/selected after every LTS release. Thus,
   every season lasts for 2 years.

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Xubuntu Community Meeting 2011-02-17 minutes

2011-02-19 Thread Charlie Kravetz
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= 2011-02-17 Meeting Minutes =

== Old Business ==

 * Old business - all
  * Xubuntu marketing plans - carried forward
   * shimmer project to move items pertaining to Xubuntu to
   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
  * We need to start either a ML item or webpage item for marketing

== Team updates ==

=== Packaging  Development ===

 * More syncs from debian experimental
 * Updated xfce4-session and tumbler to the latest upstream releases
 * More bugfixes/improvements for xubuntu-default-settings (Bug #79053,
   Bug #718177, mostly menu tuning, feedback welcome!)
  * Launchpad bug 79053 in xfdesktop Network menu entry is confusing
   (Xubuntu) [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79053
  * Launchpad bug 718177 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) The
   current Xubuntu menu hides too many entries [Undecided,Fix
   released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718177
 * Uploaded update-notifier to fix restarting with 4.8 (Bug #716905)
  * Launchpad bug 716905 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Natty) [Xubuntu]
   Unable to restart [Medium,Fix released]
   https://launchpad.net/bugs/716905
 * Fixed a few plugins to work with the new panel
   (xfce4-weather-plugin, xfce4-timer-plugin).
 * some bugs reported for the integration with ubiquity
 * ochosi is working hard on making gmusicbrowser final for natty,
   should be ready next week before the freeze 
=== Bug Triage  Testing ===

 * This week we tested the iso images for 10.04.2. There are no issues
   blocking release.
 * We need some testers and a new testing lead, if anyone is interested
 * We need to have some more people looking at Natty, so we can get the
   feedback to mr_pouit and ochosi in time for any changes needed.
  * We have Natty Alpha3 coming out in two weeks.
 
=== Website  Marketing ===

 * Suggestion from ochosi - it would be great if the first page would
   show the slideshow that is shown during installation.
 * it was also suggested that we make the news items more interesting,
   get more creative with something like alpha 3 released - now with
   shiny chromium theme!
 * ochosi to write an article about artwork for publication as news on
   website
 * ask knome to do some drafts with a grey background and a black
   background
 * submit an RT to Canonical for wordpress
 * knome is to set up a tele-conference of some type to discuss
   marketing
 * alpha3 will have all the artwork and theme changes

=== Artwork ===

 * we need someone to update the slideshows displayed during the
   installation, they are badly outdated (they were made for karmic or
   lucid)
 * knome can update the technical parts, if provided with natty
   information

=== Discuss panel launchers for natty ===

 * after some discussion, the following was presented: Default panel
   launchers to be
  * Desktop | Browser Email Musicplayer Terminal Abiword SoftwareCenter
   Appfinder | Folders

== Updates for Xubuntu 10.04.2 ==

 * Xubuntu 10.04.2 will be released on 2011-12-17

== Announcements ==

 * Xfce is starting on 4.10 now, to be ready in January 2012.
  * It will include Accessibility built in, if it goes according to plan
  * if it stays on schedule - ready for LTS release in April 2012

== Any Other Business ==

 * Next meeting is in one week, Frebruary 24, #ubuntu-meeting, at 19:00
   UTC.
 *
   [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2011-02-17
   | Meeting log]]
 * proposal we take up the strategy document starting in three weeks, a
   bit at a time, the meeting of March 10.

== Action items for the 2011-02-10 meeting ==

 * ochosi and knome will put together some logo designs to be discussed
   as the menu icon
 * ochosi and mr_pouit will change panel launchers to generic icons
 * ochosi to write an article about artwork due for news on website

== Action items for the 2011-02-17 meeting ==

 * shimmer project to move items pertaining to Xubuntu to
   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
 * knome is to set up a tele-conference of some type to discuss
   marketing
 * find someone to update the slideshow

== Carried Forward ==

Please see the [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Xubuntu_2010-01-10
| previous log]]

=== Xubuntu Governance ===

 * The governancy part of the current Strategy Document can be found at
   [[Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu Governance  Team Structure]]
 * The Xubuntu project will advance towards a Council-based governance
   approach.

=== The Xubuntu Council ===

 * The Council size should be 5 members, with one of them being the PL.
 * PL will have a vote in every voting in the Council, not just as a
   tie-breaker.
 * The 4 members in the Council in addition to the PL should be
   selected by the existing Xubuntu Contributors.
 * The appropriate Team Lead can be the tiebreaker in a vote, but only
   if PL is absent.
 * The council should *aim* to have balanced membership across the
   different aspects/teams of Xubuntu.
 * The council should be named/selected after every 

Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Nobuto MURATA
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Hello Ubuntu Translators,

I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by
Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used
in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks
are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader.

Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu
has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This
issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console.

To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use
framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are
going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a
workaround.

To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test
whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently
zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on
that locales.

1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below.
$ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc.

3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and
password to login.

4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist.
$ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7.


Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below.
Thanks in advance.

Locale: (output of locale command)
Affected: YES/NO
Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters)

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/573502
[2]
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47192384/Ubuntu%2010.04%20LTS%20Lucid%20Lynx%20%28Installed%29%20%5B%E5%AE%9F%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%AD%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE_001.png

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Артём Попов
2011/2/19 Nobuto MURATA nob...@nobuto-murata.org:

 Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below.
 Thanks in advance.

 Locale: (output of locale command)
 Affected: YES/NO
 Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters)

Locale: ru_RU.UTF-8
Affected: YES
Percentage: 100%
(but latin characters in words resume, clean, grub, etc. are all visible)

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Sveinn í Felli



Þann lau 19.feb 2011 16:04, skrifaði Nobuto MURATA:

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Hello Ubuntu Translators,

I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by
Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used
in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks
are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader.

Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu
has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This
issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console.

To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use
framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are
going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a
workaround.

To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test
whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently
zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on
that locales.

1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below.
 $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc.

3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and
password to login.

4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist.
 $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7.


Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below.
Thanks in advance.

Locale: (output of locale command)
Affected: YES/NO
Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters)

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/573502
[2]
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47192384/Ubuntu%2010.04%20LTS%20Lucid%20Lynx%20%28Installed%29%20%5B%E5%AE%9F%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%AD%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE_001.png

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OK for Icelandic

LANG=is_IS.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

Tested on 10.04, 10.10 and LinuxMint 10

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 01:04:26AM +0900, Nobuto MURATA wrote:
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 Hash: SHA512
 
 Hello Ubuntu Translators,
 
 I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by
 Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used
 in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks
 are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader.
 
 Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu
 has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This
 issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console.
 
 To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use
 framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are
 going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a
 workaround.
 
 To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test
 whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently
 zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on
 that locales.
 
 1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below.
 $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu
 
 2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc.
 
 3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and
 password to login.
 
 4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist.
 $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu
 
 5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7.

For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
/usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
10.04 right now).

Regards,
 Khaled

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Sasa Tekovic
Hi,

everything's OK with Croatian translation.

Locale: hr_HR.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread André Gondim
Hi,

Locale: pt_BR.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

Cheers,
-
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E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com
Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br
OpenPGP keys: C9721403
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 20:19, Sasa Tekovic s...@ubuntu-hr.org wrote:

 Hi,

 everything's OK with Croatian translation.

 Locale: hr_HR.utf8
 Affected: NO
 Percentage: 0%

 Cheers!

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Nobuto MURATA
2011/02/20 10:19 Quynh Vu Do vdqu...@gmail.com:
 Vietnamese is not translated = not affcted (yet)

 Locale: vi_VN

 The menu shows in English.

 After going to the console CTRL+ALT+F2

 the default locale is LANG=en_US.UTF8

 changing the locale by doing
 $LANG=vi_VN

 then
 /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu

 shows the menu in English

 changing the locale by doing
 $LANG=vi_VN.UTF8

 also shows a menu in English.

In case that menus are not translated yet in your locale, could you take
additional steps below?

1. Translate messages on friendly-recovery roughly (just for testing).

2. Save as a UTF-8 encoded text file.

3. Go to console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2.

4. Open the saved file like the line below.
$ cat ~/saved_file.txt

5. Check that unreadable characters exists.

This steps can simulate the issue and check your locale is potentially
affected.

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Re: ubuntu-translators Digest, Vol 77, Issue 18

2011-02-19 Thread Marcin GTriderXC
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:55:42 +0200
From: Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org
To: Nobuto MURATA nob...@nobuto-murata.org
Cc: ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Message-ID: 20110219215541.GA6661@khaled-laptop
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 01:04:26AM +0900, Nobuto MURATA wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA512
 
 Hello Ubuntu Translators,
 
 I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by
 Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used
 in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks
 are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader.
 
 Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu
 has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This
 issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console.
 
 To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use
 framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are
 going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a
 workaround.
 
 To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test
 whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently
 zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on
 that locales.
 
 1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below.
     $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu
 
 2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc.
 
 3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and
 password to login.
 
 4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist.
     $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu
 
 5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7.

For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_*
ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but
if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of
/usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with
proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve
choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu
release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one
as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using
10.04 right now).

Regards,
 Khaled

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:19:08 +0100
From: Sasa Tekovic s...@ubuntu-hr.org
To: ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Message-ID:
    aanlktimc1wpv67zj91ycehjveg9uvl39mt0wdbq0r...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi,

everything's OK with Croatian translation.

Locale: hr_HR.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:38:21 -0200
From: Andr? Gondim andregon...@ubuntu.com
To: ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Message-ID:
    AANLkTi=W=Y142qG1h9RjwoLx0SJY=wcodon8+_-y8...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi,

Locale: pt_BR.utf8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%

Cheers,
-
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Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 20:19, Sasa Tekovic s...@ubuntu-hr.org wrote:

 Hi,

 everything's OK with Croatian translation.

 Locale: hr_HR.utf8
 Affected: NO
 Percentage: 0%

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Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing

2011-02-19 Thread Krasimir Chonov

Locale: bg_BG.UTF-8
Affected: NO
Percentage: 0%



Best Regards,
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Re: mixbus

2011-02-19 Thread Kenneth Koym
Hello, Sorry to interrupt; but, can I ask for Digikam help here?

*Digikam  F-spot limitations w/HP Photosmart R742*
--

My Digikam recognizes my camera but fails to pull photos on my HP Photosmart
R742. My digikam album shows 58 photos out of +/- 300 on the HP. What
routine can I use to capture the remaining photos on my HP camera?

It would be nice to transfer photos on my hard drive into digikam album but
I can't call them in, i.e., from an Opera file or from prior F-Photo manager
downloads.

F-Spot photo manager forces one into the biz of manually overcoming
downloads photos from cascading folders named 2011  02  18 etc.  no way
to catalog photos alternatively.

Are these KDE specific; KXstudio 10.04.02 specific; or Digikam limitations
generally? My Mac G-4 downloaded all photos in minutes but I have no studio
that allows producing.

 k78724@Kproductions:~$ ls -al ~/ | grep .kde

drwx-- 3 k78724 k78724 4096 2008-10-13 15:42 .kde

drwx-- 3 k78724 k78724 4096 2008-12-08 08:37 .kde4

Kenneth

2011/2/11 psycho psychon...@gmail.com

 Mixbus pour linux est enfin la

 Mixbus is out 

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2011-02-19 Thread psycho
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com java

2011-02-19 Thread Ávila .
Olá André, como vão as coisas por aí? tudo bem?
É o seguinte eu sabia do java da SUN e o utilizava até a versão 9.10 mas
depois do 10.04 agora estou no 10.10 sempre utilizei o java da comunidade e
o BB e receita aceita sem reclamar o que não acontecia antes nos obrigando a
instalar o da SUN. Mas acho que ele ainda não tem 100% de compatibilidade
pois o site da Samsung reclamou.
O fato é que eu não estava querendo utilizar o da SUN, pois a comunidade
está dando um duro para desenvolver seu próprio java e eu gostaria de
valorizar o trabalhos deles.
Mas obrigado pela dica.
E bom final de semana pra ti aí.


Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 23:33, André Gondim andregon...@ubuntu.comescreveu:

 Olá Ávila,

 Dá uma lida em:

 http://va.mu/6n

 Abraços e boa sorte,
 -
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 2011/2/18 Ávila . genin...@gmail.com

  Boa noite lista.
  Estou com um problema para acessar o site da Samsung
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/br/support/repair/repairTracking.do?page=REPAIR.TRACKING
  Creio que é por causa do java.
  Mas o fato é que uso banco mais precisamente o do brasil e programas da
  receita sem problemas. Agora vem essa da samsung e agarra.
  Estou usando o OpenJDK, alguem poderia da uma olhada aí se é só o meu ou
 é
  problema do site com o OpenJDK.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa tradutor de legendas de filmes

2011-02-19 Thread xisberto
2011/2/18 Edson.Yahoo ecpor...@yahoo.com.br

 Poderiam indicar-me um programa para Ubuntu que faça traduções de legendas
 de filmes?


existem programas que editam legendas, como o gnome-subtitles.

Para traduzir, o translate.google.com.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell

2011-02-19 Thread Leandro Marino

 antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
 e tente negociar o frete.

x2

Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como
configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo
perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04.


Atenciosamente,
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Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907



Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima
claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu:

  antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
 e tente negociar o frete.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell

2011-02-19 Thread Cicero Rocha
Bom saber leandro!

Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino 
leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:

 
  antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
  e tente negociar o frete.
 
 x2

 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como
 configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo
 perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04.


 Atenciosamente,
 Leandro Marino
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 http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico)
 Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907



 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima
 claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu:

   antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
  e tente negociar o frete.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell

2011-02-19 Thread Cicero Rocha
Leandro, mas o resto funciona perfeitamente? TIpo Vídeo por exxemplo?

Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 09:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Bom saber leandro!

 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino 
 leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:

 
  antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
  e tente negociar o frete.
 
 x2

 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda
 como
 configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo
 perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04.


 Atenciosamente,
 Leandro Marino
 http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo)
 http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico)
 Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907



 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima
 claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu:

   antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
  e tente negociar o frete.
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell

2011-02-19 Thread Leandro Marino
*Cicero,

até hoje não observei nenhuma carencia. Lembro de apenas ter precisado
conectar um cabo de rede para instalar o drivers proprietários do Wi-fi e da
Nvidia.

Acredito que a versão 10.10 também não apresente problemas, mas preferi
permanecer na 10.04 por ser uma LTS.

[semi-OT]
O único problema que tive foi o teclado empenado que estava marcando o LCD.
Liguei para a Dell me fizeram tirar o teclado do notebook, pediram para
verificar se era o note ou o teclado que estava empenado. E depois disto,
mandaram um novo teclado e um técnico para fazer a instalação. Isto tudo em
menos de 48 horas! Atendimento nota 1000.
[\semi-OT]



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Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Leandro, mas o resto funciona perfeitamente? TIpo Vídeo por exxemplo?

 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 09:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.com
 escreveu:

  Bom saber leandro!
 
  Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino 
  leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:
 
  
   antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
   e tente negociar o frete.
  
  x2
 
  Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda
  como
  configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo
  perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04.
 
 
  Atenciosamente,
  Leandro Marino
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  http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico)
  Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
  Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907
 
 
 
  Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima
  claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu:
 
antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
   e tente negociar o frete.
  
  --
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell

2011-02-19 Thread Leandro Marino
*Apenas um detalhe,

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201001-4955



Existe uma lista de versoes do ubuntu e compatibilidades com uma série de
hardwares. Antes de comprar é sempre bom dar uma olhada!

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/makes



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Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:23, Leandro Marino 
leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:

 *Cicero,

 até hoje não observei nenhuma carencia. Lembro de apenas ter precisado
 conectar um cabo de rede para instalar o drivers proprietários do Wi-fi e da
 Nvidia.

 Acredito que a versão 10.10 também não apresente problemas, mas preferi
 permanecer na 10.04 por ser uma LTS.

 [semi-OT]
 O único problema que tive foi o teclado empenado que estava marcando o LCD.
 Liguei para a Dell me fizeram tirar o teclado do notebook, pediram para
 verificar se era o note ou o teclado que estava empenado. E depois disto,
 mandaram um novo teclado e um técnico para fazer a instalação. Isto tudo em
 menos de 48 horas! Atendimento nota 1000.
 [\semi-OT]



 *
 Atenciosamente,
 Leandro Marino
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 Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907



 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Leandro, mas o resto funciona perfeitamente? TIpo Vídeo por exxemplo?

 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 09:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.com
 escreveu:

  Bom saber leandro!
 
  Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino 
  leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu:
 
  
   antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
   e tente negociar o frete.
  
  x2
 
  Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda
  como
  configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo
  perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04.
 
 
  Atenciosamente,
  Leandro Marino
  http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo)
  http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico)
  Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
  Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907
 
 
 
  Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima
  claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu:
 
antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no  0800
   e tente negociar o frete.
  
  --
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  Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções:
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[Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor

2011-02-19 Thread Luciano de Souza

Caros,

Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi 
gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse 
a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia 
ser ouvido.


Tenho certo pudor em criar mensagens que estejam foram do escopo do 
grupo, por isso, dei um jeito de introduzir o assunto sub-repticiamente 
nesta mensagem. É que além de não estar satisfeito de o meu Ubuntu não 
ter gravado o meu som, não estou satisfeito com o próprio microfone. Ele 
está a funcionar, disso não há qualquer dúvida, pois conectado ao meu 
gravador digital, ele funciona perfeitamente, mas é que gostaria de 
comprar outro microfone que fosse mais adequado ao fim que lhe pretendo dar.


Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse 
bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se 
entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou 
metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no 
apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a 
namorada. Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não 
gostaria que elas figurassem em minha gravação.


Então, se tivessem alguma sugestão sobre microfones que fossem bons para 
gravar voz sem captar muito ruído ambiente, eu lhes agradeceria muitíssimo.


Luciano de Souza

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor

2011-02-19 Thread xisberto
2011/2/19 Luciano de Souza luchya...@gmail.com

 Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi
 gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a
 informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser
 ouvido.


Não vou dar dicas de microfone porque não conheço do assunto. Mas recomendo
que você faça o seguinte teste:
Abra as preferências de som. Na aba Entrada, há os dispositivos de som.
Provavelmente vai aparecer apenas o microfone da sua placa, já selecionado.
Verifique se não há outro (algumas webcams tem microfones embutidos).

Faça testes falando e ajustando o volume que se encontra nesta aba. Um
indicador abaixo do volume vai indicar quanto som está sendo captado pelo
microfone.

Depois de ajustar o volume corretamente, faça um novo teste de gravação.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor

2011-02-19 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:44, Luciano de Souza
luchya...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Caros,

 Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi
 gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a
 informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser
 ouvido.


Sugiro que verifique, além da fonte selecionada na opção Gravar da
entrada, no mixer do PulseAudio ou Alsa (dependendo do sistema de som que
você esteja utilizando) se a entrada correspondente está selecionada e se o
nível de áudio (volume) está ajustado adequadamente.

(corte)



 Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse
 bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se
 entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou
 metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no
 apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada.
 Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas
 figurassem em minha gravação.


Você vai precisar de microfones profissionais, de preferência direcionais
com cobertura de espuma. Mas o microfone sozinho não faz milagres. para um
som do jeito que você descreve a solução se chama camara anecoica, e aí,
meu amigo, nem Ubuntu, nem outro sistema operacional qualquer dão jeito.

(corte)


 Luciano de Souza


Abraço

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor

2011-02-19 Thread Luciano de Souza
Você resolveu mais do que apenas o problema que descrevi. Achei que duas 
das caixas de som tinham queimado. Na verdade, elas apenas estavam 
emudecidas no controle de volume. Desta vez, a gravação ficou boa, ou 
melhor, tão boa quanto o meu pobre microfone é capaz de soar.


Obrigado!

Em 19-02-2011 10:57, xisberto escreveu:

2011/2/19 Luciano de Souzaluchya...@gmail.com


Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi
gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a
informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser
ouvido.
   


Não vou dar dicas de microfone porque não conheço do assunto. Mas recomendo
que você faça o seguinte teste:
Abra as preferências de som. Na aba Entrada, há os dispositivos de som.
Provavelmente vai aparecer apenas o microfone da sua placa, já selecionado.
Verifique se não há outro (algumas webcams tem microfones embutidos).

Faça testes falando e ajustando o volume que se encontra nesta aba. Um
indicador abaixo do volume vai indicar quanto som está sendo captado pelo
microfone.

Depois de ajustar o volume corretamente, faça um novo teste de gravação.




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor

2011-02-19 Thread Luciano de Souza
Tenho um gravador digital da Olympus. Ele tem qualidade de som 
excelente. Ao contrário do que sucede com o microfone do computador, não 
possui ruído de fundo, mas apenas o ruído do ambiente. O microfone do 
computador custou R$ 35,00 e o gravador R$ 360,00, então, é mesmo 
natural que haja diferença. Estou satisfeitíssimo com a qualidade do 
gravador, apenas não fui capaz de fazê-lo ignorar um pouco mais o ruído 
ambiente. Como não é minha intenção gastar R$ 5000,00 com um microfone  
profissional, então, é melhor ajeitar-me com o que tenho. É claro que 
não esperava que o microfone fosse tão bom ao ponto de não captar a 
turbina de um Boeing, enquanto trabalha a cinco metros. Há algum motivo 
para que estúdios de gravação sejam coisas caras, mas como o microfone 
do computador é ruim, pensei que poderia conseguir algo melhor para este 
objetivo. Mas pelo que vejo, conseguir uma boa qualidade de gravação, é 
mesmo coisa mais simples do que filtrar o som para que os ruídos possam 
ser ignorados.


Se selecionar melhor os momentos em que gravo, poderei conseguir uma 
qualidade razoável que, aliado a alguma efeito do Audacity, talvez seja 
o melhor que posso conseguir sem apelar para grandes investimentos.


Em 19-02-2011 10:58, Paulo de Souza Lima escreveu:

Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:44, Luciano de Souza
luchya...@gmail.comescreveu:



Caros,

Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi
gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a
informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser
ouvido.

   

Sugiro que verifique, além da fonte selecionada na opção Gravar da
entrada, no mixer do PulseAudio ou Alsa (dependendo do sistema de som que
você esteja utilizando) se a entrada correspondente está selecionada e se o
nível de áudio (volume) está ajustado adequadamente.

(corte)




Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse
bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se
entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou
metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no
apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada.
Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas
figurassem em minha gravação.

   

Você vai precisar de microfones profissionais, de preferência direcionais
com cobertura de espuma. Mas o microfone sozinho não faz milagres. para um
som do jeito que você descreve a solução se chama camara anecoica, e aí,
meu amigo, nem Ubuntu, nem outro sistema operacional qualquer dão jeito.

(corte)




Luciano de Souza


   

Abraço




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor

2011-02-19 Thread Leandro Marino
*O melhor microfone que você pode comprar é um microfone profissional (tipo
os de karaokê mesmo) pois estes captam apenas o som em uma linha reta. Um da
Leson custa R$ 100,00. Pode-se encontrar facilmente em lojas de instrumentos
musicais.

http://www.leson.com.br/v1/home/index.php

Tenho até hoje um modelo SM-58 deles e funciona perfeitamente.

Agora, você irá precisar de um cabo XLR - P-10 e um adaptador P-10 para P2.

Dependendo do uso será necessário um pedestal para o microfone, assim não
terá que ficar segurando o mesmo!



*Atenciosamente,
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Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707
Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907



Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 11:23, Luciano de Souza
luchya...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Tenho um gravador digital da Olympus. Ele tem qualidade de som excelente.
 Ao contrário do que sucede com o microfone do computador, não possui ruído
 de fundo, mas apenas o ruído do ambiente. O microfone do computador custou
 R$ 35,00 e o gravador R$ 360,00, então, é mesmo natural que haja diferença.
 Estou satisfeitíssimo com a qualidade do gravador, apenas não fui capaz de
 fazê-lo ignorar um pouco mais o ruído ambiente. Como não é minha intenção
 gastar R$ 5000,00 com um microfone  profissional, então, é melhor ajeitar-me
 com o que tenho. É claro que não esperava que o microfone fosse tão bom ao
 ponto de não captar a turbina de um Boeing, enquanto trabalha a cinco
 metros. Há algum motivo para que estúdios de gravação sejam coisas caras,
 mas como o microfone do computador é ruim, pensei que poderia conseguir algo
 melhor para este objetivo. Mas pelo que vejo, conseguir uma boa qualidade de
 gravação, é mesmo coisa mais simples do que filtrar o som para que os ruídos
 possam ser ignorados.

 Se selecionar melhor os momentos em que gravo, poderei conseguir uma
 qualidade razoável que, aliado a alguma efeito do Audacity, talvez seja o
 melhor que posso conseguir sem apelar para grandes investimentos.

 Em 19-02-2011 10:58, Paulo de Souza Lima escreveu:


 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:44, Luciano de Souza
 luchya...@gmail.comescreveu:


  Caros,

 Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi
 gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a
 informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser
 ouvido.



 Sugiro que verifique, além da fonte selecionada na opção Gravar da
 entrada, no mixer do PulseAudio ou Alsa (dependendo do sistema de som que
 você esteja utilizando) se a entrada correspondente está selecionada e se o
 nível de áudio (volume) está ajustado adequadamente.

 (corte)



 Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse
 bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se
 entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou
 metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no
 apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada.
 Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas
 figurassem em minha gravação.



 Você vai precisar de microfones profissionais, de preferência direcionais
 com cobertura de espuma. Mas o microfone sozinho não faz milagres. para um
 som do jeito que você descreve a solução se chama camara anecoica, e aí,
 meu amigo, nem Ubuntu, nem outro sistema operacional qualquer dão jeito.

 (corte)



  Luciano de Souza




 Abraço




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalação

2011-02-19 Thread 100%

desistalei e vou instalar de novo e ver no que da

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Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalação


Na hora da instalaçao, quando for configurar o usuário
escolha a opção login automatico sem senha

Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 18:32, Paulo Henrique Colen 
paulo.co...@gmail.com escreveu:


Tenta logar no sistema, apertando Crtl+Alt+F1. via abrir o terminal, vc
coloca usuario e senha, se passar, digita, service gdm start

2011/2/18 100% tivil...@hotmail.com

 mas como vou fazer isto se não entro no sistema, ele não abre o sitema
fica
 pedindo senha

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 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalação


  tente marcar a opção de Login automatico na opção de usuário!

 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 17:20, 100% tivil...@hotmail.com 
 escreveu:


  Preciso de ajuda, instalei ubuntu10 no meu notbook através do wubi e 
 ao

 reiniciar ele atualizou e depois reiniciou de novo pedindo a senha,
ponho
 a
 mesma senha que pús no inicio da instalação e ele não entra, sempre
volta
 a
 mesma tela pedindo a senha, já desisntalei e instalei de novo e
aconteceu
 o
 mesmo. O que faço.?
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa tradutor de legendas de filmes

2011-02-19 Thread gil
On 18-02-2011 23:08, Edson.Yahoo wrote:
 Boa Noite a todos.
 Poderiam indicar-me um programa para Ubuntu que faça traduções de
 legendas de filmes?
 Grato
 Edson
o subdownloader procura legendas pros filmes na internet. Geralmente acha...
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa tradutor de legendas de filmes

2011-02-19 Thread Luiz Paulo Colombiano
Edson,

Veja aí se serve para seu propósito.

http://universalsubtitles.org/en/about

Inteh,

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 On 18-02-2011 23:08, Edson.Yahoo wrote:
  Boa Noite a todos.
  Poderiam indicar-me um programa para Ubuntu que faça traduções de
  legendas de filmes?
  Grato
  Edson
 o subdownloader procura legendas pros filmes na internet. Geralmente
 acha...
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[Ubuntu-BR] Openvpn e estações windows

2011-02-19 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Boa tarde a todos...

Tenho um problema com o openvpn que já está me deixando maluco !!!

A conexão é entre dois firewalls, ambos rodando Shorewall.

O servidor tem 4 placas de redem uma para o ip válido, e três segmentos
internos, 172.16.2.xxx, 172.16.3.xxx e 172.16.4.xxx .

Estes é o arquivo de configuração do servidor :

dev tun
#proto tcp-server
port 7794
local 186.xxx.43.18
remote 186.xxx.43.10
ifconfig 192.168.99.2 192.168.99.1
route 172.16.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.1
push route 192.168.10.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway
tls-server
dh dh2048.pem
ca /etc/openvpn/keys/ca.crt
cert /etc/openvpn/keys/server_
cities.crt
key /etc/openvpn/keys/server_cities.key
comp-lzo
link-mtu 1542
auth none SHA1
cipher BF-CBC
keysize 128
verb 5

No cliente existem apenas 2 placas de rede, e a rede local atualmente é
172.16.0.xxx,mas eu já tentei colocar o ip do cliente em 192.168.10.xxx e o
problema persistiu !

este é o arquivo de configuração do cliente :

dev tun
#proto tcp-client
port 7794
local 186.xxx.43.10
remote 186.xxx.43.18
ifconfig 192.168.99.1 192.168.99.2
route 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.2
route 172.16.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.2
route 172.16.4.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.2
push route 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway
push route 172.16.3.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway
push route 172.16.4.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway
tls-client
dh dh2048.pem
ca /etc/openvpn/keys/ca.crt
cert /etc/openvpn/keys/cities.crt
key /etc/openvpn/keys/cities.key
comp-lzo
link-mtu 1542
auth none SHA1
cipher BF-CBC
keysize 128
verb 5


E esta é a saída do log segue anexo, pois é muito grande para que seja
postado em texto .

Os ips válidos foram editados, por razões óbvias !

E finalmente o problema :

Os pacotes não circulam !!!

O objetivo é que as máquinas na rede cliente possam ter acesso aos volumes
de rede da rede do servidor, mas elas não se enxergam ...

Não há nenhuma msg de erro, a conexão é estabelecida, como o log mostra, mas
nada acontece 

Qualquer ajuda será muito útil ..


Fábio Rabelo
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: Current Parameter Settings:
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   config = 
'/etc/openvpn/172-16-2.conf'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   mode = 0
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   persist_config = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   persist_mode = 1
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   show_ciphers = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   show_digests = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   show_engines = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   genkey = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   key_pass_file = '[UNDEF]'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   show_tls_ciphers = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: Connection profiles [default]:
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   proto = udp
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   local = '186.201.43.10'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   local_port = 7794
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   remote = '186.201.43.18'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   remote_port = 7794
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   remote_float = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   bind_defined = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   bind_local = ENABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   connect_retry_seconds = 5
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   connect_timeout = 10
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   connect_retry_max = 0
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   socks_proxy_server = 
'[UNDEF]'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   socks_proxy_port = 0
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   socks_proxy_retry = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: Connection profiles END
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   remote_random = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   ipchange = '[UNDEF]'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   dev = 'tun'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   dev_type = '[UNDEF]'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   dev_node = '[UNDEF]'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   lladdr = '[UNDEF]'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   topology = 1
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   tun_ipv6 = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   ifconfig_local = 
'192.168.99.1'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   ifconfig_remote_netmask = 
'192.168.99.2'
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   ifconfig_noexec = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   ifconfig_nowarn = DISABLED
Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]:   shaper = 0
Feb 19 13:50:09 

[Ubuntu-BR] [DICA] - Tutorial gnucash basico em PDF

2011-02-19 Thread Anderson Souza

Procurando informações no Google sobre a utilização do GnuCash, encontrei esse 
PDF muito bem escrito sobre sua utilização básica.

ftp://ftp.feis.unesp.br/softwarelivre/Apostilas/Gnucash/tutorial_gnucash_basico_2010.pdf

Como complemento de informação, vai uma teoria pra ajudar no entendimento do 
funcionamento do programa:

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Método_das_partidas_dobradas

Espero que ajude as informações.

Anderson
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ponderando a criação de uma conta de usuário

2011-02-19 Thread Marlon
Olá Luciano

com o comando useradd tem a opção de colocar o cara automaticamente em agun
grupos
não estou com um linux no momento mas se você ler o manual do comando

man useradd

tem um parâmero que permite fazer as coisas

com relação ao acesso à pasta
o comando chmod pode resolver

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Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 15:40, Emilio Fernandes emili...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Sim, o comando useradd realmente não dá permissões ao usuario criado,
 porém pela interface grafica de criação de contas você pode conseguir criar
 o usuario corretamente
 da maneira que deseja.

 Comando não sei se existe, mais você pode remover essa opção dos arquivos
 de
 configuração do
 GDM,

 /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.mult

 na parte:

 [daemon]
 # Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged
 # in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key.
 AutomaticLoginEnable=false

 Caso queira deixar o usuário livre com login automatico adicione as
 seguintes linhas

 [daemon]
 # Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged
 # in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key.
 AutomaticLoginEnable=true
 AutomaticLogin=livre



 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 15:24, luciano de souza
 luchya...@gmail.comescreveu:

  Criei um novo usuário e ele teve a audácia de esbanjar 29KB! Se tudo o
  que é replicado encontra-se em /home/[usuário}, então, poderia
  tranqüilamente incluir uns 500 usuários, ainda que não houvesse
  qualquer razão para tal.
 
  Fiquei um tanto assustado quando criei a conta. O leitor de telas,
  sim, porque sou cego e utilizo leitor de telas, não funcionou ao me
  autenticar com a nova conta. Depois entendi que o comando useradd cria
  um usuário sem qualquer privilégio, nem mesmo o de participar do grupo
  audio que lhe daria acesso à placa de som.
 
  Utilizei os comandos useradd e passwd, mas houve algo que não consegui
  fazer. A máquina já tinha a conta luciano, o todo poderoso
  administrador. Agora, criei uma conta chamada livre. Luciano
  iniciava diretamente sem pedir senha no início do Ubuntu. Desejava que
  os arquivos de Luciano não pudessem ser vistos por livre, mas
  quando, tendo-me autenticado com livre, acesso /home/luciano, vejo
  todo o conteúdo que lá existe. quando instalei o Ubuntu, ele
  perguntou-me se desejava iniciar automaticamente. Naquele tempo, sim,
  desejava. Hoje não mais. Este é o comportamento  desejado para
  livre, mas não para luciano.
 
  Saberiam de algum comando que me permitisse obrigar à solicitação de
  senha para o usuário Luciano?
 
 
  Em 17/02/11, Luciano de Souzaluchya...@gmail.com escreveu:
   Caros,
  
   Um colega, utilizando Windows, criou uma segunda conta de usuário.
 Ficou
   muito impressionado. Disse-me que foi grande o espaço de disco
 consumido
   e que, portanto, estava convencido de que o Windows replicava uma
   quantidade de informação extraordinariamente grande.
  
   Pensava em criar outro usuário. Na verdade, é coisa que ainda preciso
   aprender. Ouvi dizer que o Linux é excelente no gerenciamento de
   usuários. Devo concluir que pouco espaço em disco é consumido quando
 uma
   nova conta é criada?
  
   É claro que não tenho motivos para tal, mas, apenas por curiosidade,
   pergunto: ele facilmente agüentaria dois, cinco ou dez usuários? Que
   conseqüências haveria em se criar muitos usuários?
  
   Luciano de Souza
  
 
 
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