Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 00:36 -0600, Leandro Gómez wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:50 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 19:30 -0500, coz DS wrote: We all need to do our part in trying to talk with jbaer, other than those that already have, to help him understand that his behavior is not team oriented and a destructive path which only leads to people leaving the group. I personally want to know why this decision... why these misleading links ,, What the hell was he thinking! Events like this, which compound the existing issues the group has,, only pushes away any possibility of real recognition of the community art team by canonical! coz I'm +1 on this, exactly why us banning him is not going to help. John needs to explain his actions and course-correct his attitude. He needs to correct his behavior, or if he is not able to correct himself he needs to quit on his own. Someone else banning him wont help here, and might blow this 'silly drama' out of proportion To me, this whole situation has already been blown out of proportion. Really... it's a no brainer. If someone is threatening the team, what do you do? Wait and see if the problem resolves itself or take action? Banning a person is the last resource. If you have tried to resolve the issue privately and failed, why don't you take it publicly? We can have a meeting on IRC with John and the rest of the team and see if we can agree on how to move forward. What do you think? Cheers, Sure, a meeting to resolve this sounds good. Someone kindly take the initiative and set a datetime when John can attend. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice
Banning a person is the last resource. If you have tried to resolve the issue privately and failed, why don't you take it publicly? We can have a meeting on IRC with John and the rest of the team and see if we can agree on how to move forward. What do you think? I don't quite like the idea... I mean, this seems sane, but there are shortcomings in this approach too. And I think we should consult Ivanka Majic or Jono Bacon or other experienced person before taking *any* action. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?
Hello Everyone, I see a couple of threads on this list have seen much activity. First, I would caution everyone this is a public list and the words spoke here see a much broader audience. I have not read all of the threads but I see from Сергей last comments there has been a suggestion of banning membership. I will assume this dialog is directed toward me. For the sake of discussion let's say I went away. What changes? The team has one less member to submit artwork. As I am not aware I have prevented anyone from doing as they wish - what changes? My desire has always been to encourage participation. If a member desires to assume leadership start being a leader as there is no value in the assigning of blame and the complaining of what could have been. If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do better. Find the love as I assume members participate to add value to Ubuntu and the greater community. There is no value in a rant or flame. If the driver for all of this is the Flickr group General Illustrations ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-10-0/pool/ ), what is the problem? From where I sit it seems to be working and adding value. It has been suggested the Design Team will reject these submissions as they were not posted to the Artwork group. If this is going to be a problem I am sure ***Iain would have contacted me long ago. *I encourage everyone to get back to our roots and share your talent by posting submissions. I firmly believe Ubuntu and the greater community will appreciate the love. Kind regards, John -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 16:37 +0530, Vishnoo wrote: Sure, a meeting to resolve this sounds good. Someone kindly take the initiative and set a datetime when John can attend. We tried that. It didn't work so well. I think we'd need personal attention from the CC. As an Ubuntu team our communal authority is the Code of Conduct and the Community Council. Jono and Ivanka are great people to go to for advice and they will help, but they're not the right people if they are the only people to get involved. Martin, -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 08:59 -0500, John Baer wrote: As I am not aware I have prevented anyone from doing as they wish - what changes? It's true, you do support and encourage anarchy. You don't prevent people from being individuals; instead you prevent them being a team. And that is the crux of the problem John, I'd dearly love you to be a part of the team, but your actions have shown that you are duplicitous and untrustworthy when it comes to forming social bonds. My desire has always been to encourage participation. If a member desires to assume leadership start being a leader as there is no value in the assigning of blame and the complaining of what could have been. As we know from the CoC, taking leadership is about being decisive and considerate of everyone. This position requires the most amazing social skills in order to listen and understand all people, even people that don't personally agree. Taking leadership by doing random things in random ways without talking to anyone isn't leadership. It's awesome for an individual, but it's unhealthy for a team when those things conflict with other team members; where your resolution is based on ignoring and continuing to misrepresent. If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do better. Find the love as I assume members participate to add value to Ubuntu and the greater community. There is no value in a rant or flame. The first aim would be to agree that you are not the Ubuntu ArtWork Team, you don't represent the collected views of the team and are not good at forming a consensus. If you want to do something under the banner of the ArtWork Team, you would contact the leadership and consult prior to action. This way you can give a full account and at least some dialectic can take place. Of course you're free to do anything you like outside of the Ubuntu ArtWork Team banner, just use your own name and make it clear that no authority has sanctioned you or even agreed that what you're doing is sane. Misuse of the ArtWork Teams name is the up-most important issue for you to take care of. You are not the leader and do not speak on behalf of the team, the team is not anarchistic and even if the people _are_ autonomous; the team name must not be free for all chaos and you must not use it without permission. If the driver for all of this is the Flickr group General Illustrations ( http://www.flickr.com/groups/uawt-10-0/pool/ ), what is the problem? You did it without asking and then said it was official. Causing chaos and mistrust. From where I sit it seems to be working and adding value. You are adding one mans value while destroying the entire team. That's not productive in the grand scheme of things. Your chaos is locally productive and globally disruptive. If this is going to be a problem I am sure ***Iain would have contacted me long ago. I'm not sure why you think he would know, or care to check that people were being directed to submit art to random places online with the mistaken promise that they would be judged. I firmly believe Ubuntu and the greater community will appreciate the love. Please, consider taking a year or two break. Enough time for us to get a team leadership founded and the technical roots growing. Then we can take your submissions and enthusiasm and not have it wilt the social foundations before they've had time to set. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] DVD cover
Hi, i think it's very nice the work that you are doing, and yes you are realy close to the final, but i think that you can add more details to the icons, if i'd have the original file to make some more details and any little changes, well, i just want to contribute in this important part, i want you to answer me this e-mail, tks. Aprendemos a amar no cuando encontramos a la persona perfecta, sino cuando llegamos a ver de manera perfecta a una persona imperfecta... -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] DVD cover
Hi. I'm not sure about adding more details, cause I think that would disbalance overall sleek and clean style of the cover, but if that is something you think you should work on, it's not a problem. I will send you a private mail with this psd file, cause I haven't upload it anywhere yet, and I have a plan tu upload it on spreadubuntu once when I consider it finished. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Say hello to nathan.
added to the flickr group. http://www.flickr.com/photos/islington/5459034272/in/pool-556923@N24/ On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com wrote: it could be a couple of things or a conjunction thereof. 1.shape of eye 2.lack of defined mouth 3.styling around eye. I will play around with it today, thanks vish! -- Saleel -- Saleel -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal
Tux and ubuntu logo now have the same color technically, but not visually. Ubuntu logo is larger and is surrounded by darker background, so it looks lighter than Tux. Still inconsistent :) Ubuntu and GNOME logos on the side also have different shades of aubergine, it also looks inconsistent. One expects to see monochromatic icons or icons with some meaningful color. The aubergine shades here don't seem to have any logic and are still too close to create meaningful contrast, therefore they look like a mistake. The center is too pink and too bright now, IMHO. On the other hand, I haven't seen it in CMYK. It's up to date... text area looks wider than the circles row despite being aligned pixel-to-pixel because the circles are visually smaller (circle is the most visually compact figure of all). Make the text area a bit more narrow. The spacing on the back is odd. The circles and It's up to date... text area don't form a separate block at a glance, and make the picture look very complex. This feeling goes away after looking at the back for 20 seconds or so. If I were you, I'd use equal vertical spacing for all the rows of elements, it would make the whole thing more clear and easy on the eye. Using different spacing for similar elements on the X and Y axises is considered to be a good thing. In your case circles in the same row are related closer than circles in the same column, so making vertical spacing more than horizontal is logical and natural. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal
2011/2/19 EldiS eldis.des...@gmail.com Heh... A lot of dislikes this time. It turned out that I'm going backwards. No, you are not. You are moving forward. I just can't notice or enumerate all glitches at once just looking at an in-progress version. For all previous versions I thought OK, enough for this revision. With my last post I thought finally, I've ran out of glitches. About TUX and COF logo on front, yes, I noticed that they still look different, but I don't know... I don't see such a big mistake there. Maybe I'll do a cutout instead color overlay, to see how it's gonna turn out. Noticeably different, but still qute similar colors on similar elements tend to look like a mistake. That's not my revelation, it's a well-known thing in design. Make the color overlays look like the same color, not just be the same color, and the pic will look much simpler and slicker. About it's up to date... text area, I think I will leave it like it is. I experimented with narrower sizes, and I didn't like it at all. The point of this tweak is making the text area look the same width as the block of circles, not just be the same width. But if His Majesty Experiment turned it down, I can't contradict. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal
Things you mentioned are fixed now, if this could be called fixing. I tend to call it that way since I mess with code more. I know design basics (revising them right now actually) and that's all, I don't belong to the design culture. I played with Tux color, and I think it looks more slick now. Yes, it's better. But Tux still looks more saturated on my eye. I'm bold enough to make a custom version of that piece: http://img820.imageshack.us/i/ubuntupictogramstyledvd.png/ The colors are a bit off when zoomed out, but look like the same color when zoomed in. Again, I haven't seen it in CMYK, so I don't know if this will work for print too. Even the RGB is not final, I'll have a look at it tomorrow. Side COF logo is now in the same color as other two icons, and it's stil aubergine, cause I'm not sure what shade would seem more logical in an aubergine-all-around color space. If you got some suggestion, I'm here. I guess cutout should work well for the side. What's the point of adding a third color there? And the aggresive pink is now removed too. :) Yes, now it looks better IMO. But I don't like pink in general, so maybe it's just me. And back spacing is now fixed. Space between first and second row is doubled, and it looks more logical now indeed. And funny thing is that it turned out that space I used between second row and up-to-date... text in the first place, was the same as new doubled space between rows of circles. I'd like to try a layout with equal vertical spacing between all elements. Could you send me the PSD? I've noticed two more minor glitches now... First, Tux in the certificate icon looks not quite centered because the icon is not symmetrical and has more visual space on the right than on the left. Try moving Tux right a bit. Second, the ubuntu desktop edition text area doesn't look aligned with ubuntu logo on the side because a circle is visually smaller than a rectangle, but I don't think you should bother fixing that because nobody will ever notice that when the cover is printed and put onto the box. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu DVD Packaging Artwork - Getting Close toFinal
Check your inbox. I don't know, cutout on the side icons seems to be only alternative to current shade. And I played with Tux placement already, for the sake of balancing white area of the pictogram like you said, but to me it doesn't look that nice, when it's not placed perfectly in the center of circle. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Where is the Love?
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 08:59 -0500, John Baer wrote: Hello Everyone, I see a couple of threads on this list have seen much activity. First, I would caution everyone this is a public list and the words spoke here see a much broader audience. I have not read all of the threads but I see from Сергей last comments there has been a suggestion of banning membership. I will assume this dialog is directed toward me. [...] If I am truly the problem teach me and help me understand how I can do better. Do you truly mean that? If so, read *all* the replies in the other threads, *every* member has raised questions regarding your actions and as to your attitude and you have not answered any question , you say you realize it is about you and yet you did not read those messages and instead start a new thread! Dont you have the basic courtesy to reply to the questions raised by the whole team? This has been your pattern. Every time you are asked a question, you have not answered it but just start side-stepping it. If you want to be better start with this. Answer the questions first. If you choose to keep ignoring the questions from the team, you leave the team with no choice but to request the CC to ban you. It doesnt matter if you are even the best artist , if you are not a team-player then nothing else matters. -- Cheers, Vish -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art Hey guys, John, I am going to put my few thoughts in here as well. I personally do not want to see anyone leave the group.. anyone The dedication and clear success of your efforts to have people post their works on your links is quite remarkable.. In fact I was drawn into it myself. It appeared to be a clear separation of the Ubuntu versions.. easy to deal with,, and I am assuming, a very happy time for those that were convinced they may have an opportunity not only to show their talents but that their pieces may also have the possible chance of being included in the release this April. Unfortunately, as you already know, none of those works will be seen for final judging. An artist with a clear independent mind is critical for any form of composition... the kind of thinker that takes something from here,, a bit from there, puts them together is such a way that the sum is far greater than its parts This group needs people, such as yourself, with the pied piper effect on others to , in essence, bring them into the fold. The problem can arise, however, when an independent thinker then joins a group of other independent thinkers, all of whom are quite capable in their own right. There is also an additional talent that needs attention, that of being able to have mature people skills, and the willngness to understand and deal with other talented , capable, people in our midst, and have the ability to bow to the consensus of the group. There are always, under these circumstances, more than one person's concepts that will not fit into the final vision of the product. There's always the next project! This sometimes reminds me of Apple/Mac when they started.. hippies..man ,,, an operating system for the people.. down with corporations ...who hoo!! In fact, Apple is indeed a corporation as is Canonical. We are subject to Their final decisions, and visions of the releases of their operating system. The key is being able to bring in people of talent,,willing to work together, to produce ideas and final visions that Canonical cannot overlook. I am not an employee of Canonical, as much as I might like that idea, and I am not sure how few on the community art team are actual employees. However, without a group's members who are willing to put some independence aside for the sake of the group and its visions, as well as the willingness to share their ideas, there is no hope of us being seen as a viable source for Ubuntu. I am urging you to put aside whatever has motivated your actions, and openly discuss this issue not only on the mailing list but on the irc #ubuntu-artwork. There is more than a good chance, especially when you clear up the reasons for this, that it can be solved amicably. Also understand , clearly,, that the people you have successfully convinced to post their work, are going to be very disappointed that they were never considered for inclusion into Ubuntu release. I would hate, for the group, to lose someone with the natural marketing skills you already possess. coz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading huge amount of updates. On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Thats one of the main reasons why I shifted to Mint. Truly, it is what Ubuntu should actually aim for. On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:24 PM, Rohit R wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading huge amount of updates. On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Netbooks - suggestions and advise
+++ Ramnarayan.K [2011-02-01 13:13:00]: after finding out and follow up with various agencies we've shortlisted the Samsung N 148 1. “Looks like it’s worth it.” Try it. - NP-N148-DP05IN - Mini Notebook - Notebook | SAMSUNG. at http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/notebook/mini-notebook/NP-N148-DP05IN/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=feature considering features, costs, linux compatibiity, and customer service Have you picked up/used said netbooks? Any feedback? Their website says... A 6 cell battery, delivers up to 13.5 hours* (6 cell 5,900mAh)/10.0 hours* (6 cell 4,400mAh*) of power to keep you running all day long. Which battery are they shipping with by default? (Does the 5900mAh one cost extra?) Is the battery life close to advertised numbers? Kingsly -- --- Kingsly At Users Dot SourceForge Dot Net -- http://kingsly.org/ --- pgpmqJviFxt1h.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:36:46PM +0530, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Even Ubuntu and Debian for that matter categorise updates in to 'security', 'recommended' and 'miscellaneous'. You see different update notifier icon in the system notification area for security and other updates. May be Mint has further categorised them in to 6 levels. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpmqFpfm283h.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. Right now I can see * Important SecurityUpdates * Other PPA updates * Other Updates -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:24:21PM +0530, Rohit R wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 'normal update' is what 'apt-get dist-upgrade' does, but on command line instead of gui. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpf6RwF4Q9VW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Good thing because I haven't really used Ubuntu in a long time and rather prefer Mint (for the newbies) instead. On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:47 PM, Manish Sinha wrote: On 02/19/2011 03:36 PM, stereotactic wrote: Although not appropriate but Linux Mint has better option as far as the updates are concerned. It categorizes the updates which are core and necessary. You can always discard the updates you don't need (which are numbered as 4,5 and 6) and come lower down; indeed most of them are not even required. If it is critical update, it is labeled as 1. Event Ubuntu has it categorized as I can see from Update Manager. Right now I can see * Important SecurityUpdates * Other PPA updates * Other Updates -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Need a feed aggregator
Hi All, I need an offline feed aggregator which should also be able to output the URL. Here's what I have in my mind. 1) I feed in the RSS feeds from different sources. 2) Filter out the content using keywords. 3) The filtered content be available as an OPML file so that I can use it on my Google Reader. Is there any solution like that for Ubuntu? Thanks in advance! -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
I meant that apt-get upgrade (just upgrading packages) is enough and that apt-get dist-upgrade is not necessary. I dont think maintenance releases show up in dist-upgrade. On 19 February 2011 16:00, Nitesh Mistry mail...@mistrynitesh.net wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 03:24:21PM +0530, Rohit R wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 'normal update' is what 'apt-get dist-upgrade' does, but on command line instead of gui. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade As I said earlier, the maintenance release is just for fresh installs to avoid downloading the updates provided after the LTS release. On 19 February 2011 15:24, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is no need to run dist-upgrade if you are on 10.04.1 You will get a normal update which will change your version number to 10.04.2 Maintenance release is a release with all the updates since LTS release applied. This should be used in fresh installations to avoid downloading huge amount of updates. On 19 February 2011 15:14, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2 No need to download the full ISO again -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Not true!!! As long as you don't have maverick sources in your sources.list, it won't upgrade to maverick if you use dist-upgrade On 19 Feb 2011 16:40, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Ohh sorry, my bad. On 19 February 2011 16:42, Rohan Garg rohang...@ubuntu.com wrote: Not true!!! As long as you don't have maverick sources in your sources.list, it won't upgrade to maverick if you use dist-upgrade On 19 Feb 2011 16:40, Rohit R rohitsilentkil...@gmail.com wrote: -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Rohit R Third Year Int MSc Student Dept of Physics IIT Kharagpur -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
Right, and now if you update your sources, and dist upgrade, you will have 10.04.2 On 19 Feb 2011 17:07, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 -- Manish -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2. No need to download the full ISO again Thanks. But I don't have Ubuntu Installed. Just have the iso that i wanted to update to 10.04.2 without needing to download the whole iso. i think zsysnc should do it. I too have shifted to Linux Mint Debian edition, primarily for its Rolling Release. Updates too are easier as i now don't look at levels 3 and higher. I just focus on level 1 2. Also installed debdelta which looks like it will reduce my updates even further. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 05:06:56PM +0530, Manish Sinha wrote: On 02/19/2011 04:39 PM, Rohit R wrote: If you run apt-get dist-upgrade on 10.04 machine, 10.10 will be listed and not the maintenance version. The machine will go to 10.04.2 on just running apt-get upgrade Even I know that, but when I do dist-upgrade I got 10.04.1 from 10.04 Compare it with Safe upgrade and Full Upgrade in Synaptic (or used to be; don't remember since I haven't used it recently). Safe Upgrade = apt-get upgrade : if upgrading any package causes removal of another package, such package is held back. Full Upgrade = apt-get dist-upgrade : all packages are upgraded, even if upgrading any package caused another package to be removed. In both cases, the system is on the same release (10.04). It does not upgrade to 10.10. I daily do 'apt-get dist-upgrade' on my lucid machine, and I can confirm it is still lucid and not maverick. :) Just writing out of my own experience. Trying to dig out some material on it (referred to it ages ago). -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpeKM1TPPbYW.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Mailing list etiquettes
Not trying to point this to someone or forcing any rules here, but considering quite a few new participants on this list, I just wanted to share this definitive guide on mailing list etiquettes here: http://pthree.org/?p=1426 The link is to the first of the 4 part series. -- Regards, Nitesh Mistry | www.mistrynitesh.com PGP key id: A6FEF696 | 'geekosopher' on freenode irc pgpXe6Jnaou0R.pgp Description: PGP signature -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Netbooks - suggestions and advise
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Kingsly John member+ubu...@kingsly.net wrote: +++ Ramnarayan.K [2011-02-01 13:13:00]: after finding out and follow up with various agencies we've shortlisted the Samsung N 148 1. “Looks like it’s worth it.” Try it. - NP-N148-DP05IN - Mini Notebook - Notebook | SAMSUNG. at http://www.samsung.com/in/consumer/pc-peripherals-printer/notebook/mini-notebook/NP-N148-DP05IN/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=feature considering features, costs, linux compatibiity, and customer service Have you picked up/used said netbooks? Any feedback? Their website says... A 6 cell battery, delivers up to 13.5 hours* (6 cell 5,900mAh)/10.0 hours* (6 cell 4,400mAh*) of power to keep you running all day long. Which battery are they shipping with by default? (Does the 5900mAh one cost extra?) Is the battery life close to advertised numbers? they came in yesterday anm figuring how how to install Ubuntu (maybe mint maybe the vanilla version maybe Ultimate edition am not sure\ figuring which is better unetbookin or usbstart up disk creator also am stuck with world cup but by monday will post the review etc ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Need a feed aggregator
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:09 PM, stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: Hi All, I need an offline feed aggregator which should also be able to output the URL. Here's what I have in my mind. 1) I feed in the RSS feeds from different sources. 2) Filter out the content using keywords. 3) The filtered content be available as an OPML file so that I can use it on my Google Reader. Is there any solution like that for Ubuntu? Thunderbird can do 1 and 3. Yahoo pipes can do all the three things but it's a web application. If none of the above 2 work, you can write a script in your favourite scripting language. I have done the same thing that you're looking for using yahoo pipes. And it is easy to do. -- With Regards, Mehul Ved -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu India LoCo approval renewal
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Aanjhan R aanj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, As you might have known we need to renew our LoCo approval. I am busy with other life stuff and hence can't take up this task. But I am ready to continue maintaining the servers, mailing lists and all other backend stuff for the LoCo. In order to push the LoCo's reach further (organising events, meetings, evangelism, workshops etc), we need some volunteers. From the past 2-3 months of activity, I propose the following names for being LoCo contacts and carrying the flag further. Comments welcome. [in no specific order] 1. Nigel Babu 2. Nitesh Mistry 3. Manish [sinha?] 4. Maithraya (who is currently preparing for an exam) Fine with me Cheers Arjun -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS Is Available for Download
AFAIK debdelta does not work on ubuntu currently, although If it did, i'd say it would work for all packages, not for a certain set of packages. On 19 Feb 2011 23:26, stereotactic maill...@postinbox.com wrote: How is debdelta installed for Ubuntu? Is it system wide or for specific packages alone? On Saturday 19 February 2011 05:20 PM, Narendra Diwate wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Manish Sinha m...@manishsinha.net mailto:m...@manishsinha.net wrote: On 02/19/2011 07:46 AM, Narendra Diwate wrote: Hi On topic, I have Ubuntu 10.04.1 iso images with me and feel it a complete waste of limited bandwidth to again download the whole iso. Is there a way that i can just download the difference and regenerate/recreate/modify the iso to 10.04.2. I have Ubuntu 10.04 installed on my laptop which got updated to 10.04.1 All you need to do is apt-get dist-upgrade and it will goto 10.04.2. No need to download the full ISO again Thanks. But I don't have Ubuntu Installed. Just have the iso that i wanted to update to 10.04.2 without needing to download the whole iso. i think zsysnc should do it. I too have shifted to Linux Mint Debian edition, primarily for its Rolling Release. Updates too are easier as i now don't look at levels 3 and higher. I just focus on level 1 2. Also installed debdelta which looks like it will reduce my updates even further. -- Regards Narendra Diwate -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Need a feed aggregator
Thanks! But there is more than this basic need. (This is the response from the developer on the site). I am looking for a possibility of having this on the Desktop/Cloud based solution. Here's what I propose: Check out the site ( http://schema-root.org ) built from scratch using PHP and MySQL. The newsfeed items on these pages are derived*from external RSS feeds* that *he parses and store in his database.* He then reconstitutes newsfeeds from that database, using some criteria, and *cross-referencing various strings* that appear in the items with *links that point back* into his own topic tree. The design of his site has been as needed. The idea is to provide articles from reliable sources, and to avoid stories from unreliable sources. This means that the solution provided needs to filter out the spam. Can a Desktop solution be made or is there anything like that? I am a doctor with zero coding skills. This can be applied to anything a person needs. Suppose you need to track news related to a particular sector, drop the feeds from any site which has RSS feeds. And you would get the most relevant news every day. For Engineering guys, track developments related to start ups/ jobs/papers. The icing on the cake is to get Twitter which allows searches for relevant hash tags and outputs this as the RSS feed. So you stay current; the OPML file be routed to a RSS Reader like Google Reader or anything that you have on desktop. On Sunday 20 February 2011 12:07 AM, Mehul Ved wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:09 PM, stereotacticmaill...@postinbox.com wrote: Hi All, I need an offline feed aggregator which should also be able to output the URL. Here's what I have in my mind. 1) I feed in the RSS feeds from different sources. 2) Filter out the content using keywords. 3) The filtered content be available as an OPML file so that I can use it on my Google Reader. Is there any solution like that for Ubuntu? Thunderbird can do 1 and 3. Yahoo pipes can do all the three things but it's a web application. If none of the above 2 work, you can write a script in your favourite scripting language. I have done the same thing that you're looking for using yahoo pipes. And it is easy to do. -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
Le 2011-02-19 01:14, Gilbert Dion a écrit : Pourquoi faudrait-il avoir le choix de sessions en différentes langues, au fait? Windows ou Mac l'offrent-ils? Pour le choix de la langue dans ce cas, c'était pour satisfaire les besoins d'André qui veut offrir des profils anglais, français et espagnol. J'sais plus trop pour les autres mais en Ubuntu, on peut avoir la langue personnalisée par usager comme vous savez! Par contre, il semble qu'on ne puisse plus avoir l'option de langue dans la fenêtre de connexion depuis GDM2... :-) LDdB -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
Je prends le parti de garder la station Ubuntu en français, surtout si c'est complexe de proposer des profils en différentes langues. Cela n'empêche personne de naviguer sur internet dans la langue de son choix. Le poste Windows, à côté, il est en quelle langue, lui, hein? *Gilbert* Le 19 février 2011 11:10, LeDucDuBleuet ele...@leducdubleuet.biz a écrit : Le 2011-02-19 01:14, Gilbert Dion a écrit : Pourquoi faudrait-il avoir le choix de sessions en différentes langues, au fait? Windows ou Mac l'offrent-ils? Pour le choix de la langue dans ce cas, c'était pour satisfaire les besoins d'André qui veut offrir des profils anglais, français et espagnol. J'sais plus trop pour les autres mais en Ubuntu, on peut avoir la langue personnalisée par usager comme vous savez! Par contre, il semble qu'on ne puisse plus avoir l'option de langue dans la fenêtre de connexion depuis GDM2... :-) LDdB -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) -- View this message in context: http://ubuntu-qc.124361.n3.nabble.com/Recherche-un-ERP-avec-Gestion-d-inventaire-tp2534212p2534212.html Sent from the Ubuntu-Qc mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit : je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) Salut Mobidoy! Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet. Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant! Merci, Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit : Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit : je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) Salut Mobidoy! Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet. Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant! Merci, Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :) J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo C'est vraiment Web celui-là! Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch! À+ Eric -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
Merci Eric de ta suggestion, justement, je l'installais (suggestion de Fabiàn) et à ma surprise, il y à un client web donc, ca serait parfait. Il ne me reste qu'à fair efonctionner le tout et je vous tiens au courant :) Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy On 11-02-19 01:17 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote: Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit : je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) Salut Mobidoy! Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet. Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant! Merci, Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :) -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
On 11-02-19 01:21 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote: Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit : Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit : je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) Salut Mobidoy! Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet. Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant! Merci, Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :) J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo C'est vraiment Web celui-là! Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch! À+ Eric Merci, j'y jette un oeil à l'instant :) Christian -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
Nous avons créer des profils pour chaque langue et ils demeureront en place. C'est plus simple et plus *courtois!* Il arrive fort trop souvent que les sys-op, programmeurs, etc., voient les choses uniquement de leur point de vue. Le seul point de vue qui compte c'est celui de *l'utilisateur*. Nous nous devons de rendre les choses de ce point de vue à l'intérieur des paramètres définies. Mais je tiens à vous remercier tous pour toutes les idées et suggestions jusqu'ici! Merci encore. Denis-André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
Le 19 février 2011 14:44, spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com a écrit : Nous avons créer des profils pour chaque langue et ils demeureront en place. Ça inclut l'italien, le chinois, le portugais, le yiddish, le farsi? -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
En voici une autre suggestion (ouvrir les url ci-dessous est fortement suggéré): lstp+edubuntu LSTP: Site hote : http://www.ltsp.org/ Description: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project Edubuntu: Site hote: http://www.edubuntu.org/news/10.10-release Tutorial: http://edubuntu.org/documentation/ltsp-live See ya --- Michael Faille Étudiant au baccalauréat en génie des technologies de l'information Université du Québec - École de technologie supérieure, Montréal (Québec) Responsable TI du club étudiant CAPRA 2011/2/19 spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com Nous avons créer des profils pour chaque langue et ils demeureront en place. C'est plus simple et plus *courtois!* Il arrive fort trop souvent que les sys-op, programmeurs, etc., voient les choses uniquement de leur point de vue. Le seul point de vue qui compte c'est celui de * l'utilisateur*. Nous nous devons de rendre les choses de ce point de vue à l'intérieur des paramètres définies. Mais je tiens à vous remercier tous pour toutes les idées et suggestions jusqu'ici! Merci encore. Denis-André. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
Personnelement, je préfère celui-ci: http://www.adempiere.com Il y a cette entreprise qui démontre le potentiel d'adempiere aka Adaxa (nom de marketing d'une compagnie du meme nom) vs TOUS les grands erp competiteurs: http://www.adaxa.com/compare --- Michael Faille Étudiant au baccalauréat en génie des technologies de l'information Université du Québec - École de technologie supérieure, Montréal (Québec) Responsable TI du club étudiant CAPRA 2011/2/19 Christian Parent christian.paren...@gmail.com On 11-02-19 01:21 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote: Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit : Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit : je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) Salut Mobidoy! Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet. Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant! Merci, Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :) J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo C'est vraiment Web celui-là! Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch! À+ Eric Merci, j'y jette un oeil à l'instant :) Christian -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
2011/2/19 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Ça inclut l'italien, le chinois, le portugais, le yiddish, le farsi? Far*seur*. Le terminal est dirigé envers la clientèle habituelle du café... http://www.leseptieme.com/ et http://portail.ilesansfil.org/?gwid=0016b6da9ae9 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5113274164 ... Pero, è vero che parlo italiano anch'io allora forse, non lo so, non sono certo. Aber, ich denke, dass ist zu berücksichtigen. Und dir? Διόνυσος-Ανδρέας. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
2011/2/19 Michael Faille michael.faill...@ens.etsmtl.ca En voici une autre suggestion (ouvrir les url ci-dessous est fortement suggéré): lstp+edubuntu LSTP: Site hote : http://www.ltsp.org/ Description: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project WOW! Merci bien! -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
Le 19 février 2011 16:50, spam spammer nospamormores...@gmail.com a écrit : 2011/2/19 Gilbert Dion gilbertd...@gmail.com Ça inclut l'italien, le chinois, le portugais, le yiddish, le farsi? Far*seur*. Le terminal est dirigé envers la clientèle habituelle du café... http://www.leseptieme.com/ et http://portail.ilesansfil.org/?gwid=0016b6da9ae9 http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5113274164 ... Pero, è vero che parlo italiano anch'io allora forse, non lo so, non sono certo. Aber, ich denke, dass ist zu berücksichtigen. Und dir? Διόνυσος-Ανδρέας. Pourle service en français, faites le 1. -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Service publique et promotion d'ubuntu.
Monsieur, et j’emploie le mot au sens le plus large du terme, Dion, Ma langue maternelle est l'anglais. Mais je crois que ma maîtrise du français est suffisamment développé pour vous trouver, comment dire, ennuyeux!? -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Recherche un ERP avec Gestion d'inventaire
Merci Michael, je vais l'essayer On 11-02-19 04:29 PM, Michael Faille wrote: Personnelement, je préfère celui-ci: http://www.adempiere.com Il y a cette entreprise qui démontre le potentiel d'adempiere aka Adaxa (nom de marketing d'une compagnie du meme nom) vs TOUS les grands erp competiteurs: http://www.adaxa.com/compare --- Michael Faille Étudiant au baccalauréat en génie des technologies de l'information Université du Québec - École de technologie supérieure, Montréal (Québec) Responsable TI du club étudiant CAPRA 2011/2/19 Christian Parent christian.paren...@gmail.com mailto:christian.paren...@gmail.com On 11-02-19 01:21 PM, LeDucDuBleuet wrote: Le 2011-02-19 13:17, LeDucDuBleuet a écrit : Le 2011-02-19 11:32, Christian_Parent a écrit : je recherches un ERP (Enterprise resource planning) avec un module de gestion d'inventaire. Je m'étais fait recommender SugarCrm mais malheureusement, les modules pour inventaires sont payant. J'ai eu une autre suggestion que je ne me rappel plus malheureusement. De préférence, le ERP devrait etre accessible via web. Merci Christian Parent A.K.A Mobidoy :) Salut Mobidoy! Je crois que Open ERP disponible dans Synaptic ferait ton bonheur quoique je ne l'ai pas encore utilisé moi-même. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenERP C'est pas vraiment une interface web mais bien client/serveur donc bien qu'accessible par le web, ce sera pas au travers du navigateur Internet. Sinon y'a cette liste sur Wikipedia: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_de_logiciels_libres#ERP C'est un domaine intéressant, tiens-nous au courant! Merci, Eric a.k.a LeDucDuBleuet :) J'ai trouvé mieux http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbravo C'est vraiment Web celui-là! Et lui, je l'ai déjà essayé et il marchait très bien sur mon HP/Touch! À+ Eric Merci, j'y jette un oeil à l'instant :) Christian -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
I really don't understand why the one on the LibreOffice website is so complicated to try and get it to work. It might scare some people away from using it, which would be a shame. I'm sure they'll make it easier as time passes though. e-mail them and say it looks complex and why, they are open to suggestions and comments, or i have found oss projects are in general paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote: @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing LibreOffice with the PPA. The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way is if you don't use Evolution for email. The ppa version will NOT use any other address book as a source for addresses in mail merges...whereas the version directly from LO will -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Minecraft
Hi all, I'm looking for some people to join me in creating a 'Let's Play' series on minecraft. It would be sort of like lost, in that a group of people arrive in an unknown location and have to survive. I'l looking for 5-10 players, with minecraft and glc (or any other decent screen recorder) email me off-list or just join the server: megacat.cyberkingsolutions.co.uk:25565 Jacob Mansfield Programmer CyberKing Solutions™ www.cyberkingsolutions.co.uk - I do know the database is down When Windows™ is opened the bugs come in. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 19/02/11 10:26, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 19 Feb 2011, at 08:59, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.com wrote: On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote: @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing LibreOffice with the PPA. The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way is if you don't use Evolution for email. The ppa version will NOT use any other address book as a source for addresses in mail merges...whereas the version directly from LO will That sounds like a bug, or at least a feature request. Cofion/regards, Neil. It's certainly not a bug - it's been a missing feature for a long time AFAIR -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 19 February 2011 07:00, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On 19/02/2011 06:05, Hassan Haz Williamson wrote: @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try to incorporate their own proprietary database system in somehow. I could be wrong, but that's just my opinion of it. Yes, you'd expect Oracle to want to make money - it's what they do - and that means only giving (some) things to people who pay. So they're bound to look for ways of doing that with stuff that Sun used to give away for nothing. I don't think that interaction with the Oracle RDBMS would necessarily be a bad move, or MySQL which - of course - is also now Oracle's. Having worked with Oracle for 22 years I think I perhaps have less distrust of Larry Ellison's company than some - let's face it, Sun Microsystems were no less corporate than Oracle yet nobody seemed to have the issues with them they do now that Oracle owns the code. I recall in 1989 actually being credited for a feature in Oracle 6, the company used to regularly solicit suggestions from companies using their tools. Sun wasn't any more not for profit than Oracle is. I'm trying to think what our Solaris servers cost back in 1993... I think for 4 workstations and a server it was somewhere around £500,000. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice
On 19/02/2011 13:16, Sean Miller wrote: Having worked with Oracle for 22 years I think I perhaps have less distrust of Larry Ellison's company than some Oh, I don't distrust them. On the contrary, I trust them to do what they do very well: invent ways of making money. In the case of OOo, that will mean trying to 'extend' and 'monetise' it. snip Sun wasn't any more not for profit than Oracle is. I'm trying to think what our Solaris servers cost back in 1993 Yes, indeed, of course Sun did sell things for profit - but not Open Office, which Oracle will want to find ways of making money out of. And one guesses they will do that by introducing proprietary 'enhancements'. So if you want 'free' in both senses, looks like Libre Office is the only show in town. mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question
On 19/02/11 15:54, Barry Titterton wrote: I recently created a persistent live USB for the first time. It worked perfectly but there is one aspect of its behaviour that I do not understand: I used a 4Gb stick. After creating the stick in 10.10 using the built-in disk/USB creator, I added Restricted Extras as well as creating a couple of files to test that the persistence worked, which it did. However, at this point I ran Update Manager which downloaded and installed approx 210Mb of updates. Before the update I had 2.7Gb of free space, but after updating this had shrunk to only 1.5Gb. I thought that I had done something wrong so I formatted the stick and repeated the whole installation, but got exactly the same result. Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live USB? Is there an easy way to get any of this space back, or should I avoid running Update Manager? Barry T When you do updates it will cache the package files that it has downloaded. If you run the command: sudo apt-get clean ...from a terminal it will clear out the archive packages and hopefully free up some space :-) You'll probably not notice it so much when you install to a hard drive as generally you'll have much more free space (unless you happen to be running on old kit with a smaller hard drive). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning
Hi all, As you can see by the website, we're returning with Season 4 of the Ubuntu UK Podcast in 10 days. http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/ We're changing things a little in that we'll record the show live on a Tuesday evening at ~20:30 and then release it as a podcast the next day. We'll update the site nearer the time with details of how to listen in and of course how to get in contact, but for those of you who already have the details, they won't change:- Twitter: http://twitter.com/uupc Identi.ca: http://identi.ca/uupc Email: podc...@ubuntu-uk.org Phone: +44 (0) 203 298 1600 sip: podc...@sip.ubuntu-uk.org skype: ubuntuukpodcast It'll still be about an hour long and contain much the same content as previous years. Contributions, suggestions, comments as ever are very welcome! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Podcast returning
On 19 February 2011 20:32, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Hi all, As you can see by the website, we're returning with Season 4 of the Ubuntu UK Podcast in 10 days. Podcast \o/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question
On 19 February 2011 15:54, Barry Titterton barry.titter...@mail.adsl4less.com wrote: I recently created a persistent live USB for the first time. It worked perfectly but there is one aspect of its behaviour that I do not understand: I used a 4Gb stick. After creating the stick in 10.10 using the built-in disk/USB creator, I added Restricted Extras as well as creating a couple of files to test that the persistence worked, which it did. However, at this point I ran Update Manager which downloaded and installed approx 210Mb of updates. Before the update I had 2.7Gb of free space, but after updating this had shrunk to only 1.5Gb. I thought that I had done something wrong so I formatted the stick and repeated the whole installation, but got exactly the same result. Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live USB? Is there an easy way to get any of this space back, or should I avoid running Update Manager? Hi Barry, Yes, it's expected behaviour. There's no way to get the space back unless you re-create the USB stick. What's happening? The stick is created from the ISO. ISO images are read-only, so the persistent storage is implemented by a copy-on-write overlay of the filesystem. What this does is read any unchanged file from the ISO image but create a copy whenever a file is written to. When you do an update, lots of files are changed from the original stored in the ISO image, so lots of your persistent storage disappears. Before I understood this, I tried to do a version update on a live USB stick - it ran out of space! HTH. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Live usb question
On 19/02/11 15:54, Barry Titterton wrote: I recently created a persistent live USB for the first time. It worked perfectly but there is one aspect of its behaviour that I do not understand: I used a 4Gb stick. After creating the stick in 10.10 using the built-in disk/USB creator, I added Restricted Extras as well as creating a couple of files to test that the persistence worked, which it did. However, at this point I ran Update Manager which downloaded and installed approx 210Mb of updates. Before the update I had 2.7Gb of free space, but after updating this had shrunk to only 1.5Gb. I thought that I had done something wrong so I formatted the stick and repeated the whole installation, but got exactly the same result. Can any of the members explain it? Is this normal behaviour for a live USB? The size of the downloaded packages is a lot smaller than the space they occupy once installed, because the package files are compressed. It sounds about right, although you can reduce that by about 20% by setting the option to delete package files after installation in the update manager settings. The problem occurs because the packages are not being integrated into the compressed LiveCD image, but installed fully in the persistent filesystem space. Is there an easy way to get any of this space back, or should I avoid running Update Manager? Set update manager to only install security updates, as you don't want to miss those. Also, if you are using 10.04, the 10.04.2 update came out on the 17th (nominally - about 26 o'clock I think). That includes recent updates slipstreamed onto the new CD, so if you use that, you will save a lot of space compared to using a 10.04 or 10.04.1 CD and doing the updates. It's no help if you need to use 10.10. There is a way of creating your own bootable CD or DVD image with customised packages, using remastersys, but it is a bit more involved than the USB creator. -- JimP -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: GNOME Shell has been removed from the repositories?
Hi Jo-Erland, This was discussed in the below bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/690045 GNOME shell depends on several GNOME 3 libraries, most of which haven't (yet) made their way into Ubuntu. This will be fixed very soon when packages from the Ubuntu GNOME 3 ppa will be uploaded to Natty. After that only we'll re-add GNOME shell into the archive. Bilal Akhtar. On 02/19/2011 07:52 AM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: I've noticed that gnome-shell is not provided in the repositories for Natty. It used to be available in universe, from Karmic to Maverick. Why is this no longer the case? I strongly believe that GNOME Shell should be available in the repositories, and preferably in main. There is already too much talk about Ubuntu moving away from GNOME. Removing gnome-shell from the repositories will encourage that misconception. I personally remain somewhat sceptical about both Unity and GNOME Shell, but I loudly applaud the efforts of both projects to innovate and modernize the desktop. I also think both projects show great promise, and I'm really looking forward to see how they progress as they mature and are exposed to a greater audience. And I am a little concerned that by both switching to use Unity by default and removing the main competitor -- GNOME Shell -- from the repositories, it may seem like Ubuntu is using its power as the most popular distro to eliminate competition. You will get Unity for free, it will be installed and used by default. GNOME Shell, on the other hand... You'll need to search the web, try to find a good PPA, add the repository and then install it -- if you're really that interested. I am really hesitant to mention the comparison that automatically springs to my mind: Microsoft killed Netscape by providing Internet Explorer for free and, more importantly, installing it by default. No doubt, it's quite an efficient means of ridding oneself of competition, but it really doesn't seem to be in the spirit of Ubuntu. I don't want to come across as accusing anyone of doing that. But I am concerned that's the way people will interpret it and that it'll help fuel tribalism. I strongly believe that the competition between GNOME Shell and Unity will bring out the best in both of them, but that will require both of them to be exposed to as vast an audience as possible. I'm not saying that GNOME Shell should be promoted or installed by default, only that it should be available from the repositories, at the very least in universe. I think that by promoting it to main, that would send a strong signal that Canonical and Ubuntu are not in conflict with GNOME. Also, if people are able to easily try GNOME Shell, then if people do stick with it, developers of Unity has a much better chance of learning why they do so, which will enable them to improve. The same would be true for GNOME Shell, of course: if people try it and chooses to use Unity instead, then they will have the opportunity to learn. The question, therefore, is is Ubuntu going to enable the community around it to be able to improve?. These are the important things in the free software community, and if Ubuntu can do that, then it will have done something important, that will be appreciated... :) In summary: The current situation makes Unity a symbol of conflict and an excuse for tribalism, which is as ironic as it is sad. The best solution is to promote it to main. Thanks for reading, Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- Bilal Akhtar - Ubuntu Developer bilalakh...@ubuntu.com IRC nick: cdbs signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Left over CDs from the LCA 2011 Open Day
Good afternoon all, In the interests of transparency I thought I would let you all know that the all of the spare CDs have been now been distributed amongst the community. Over the past few weeks the Ubuntu-AU team has been able to send bulk CDs to: Sydney - to be distributed amongst high school IT students - thanks Matthew Boden! Melbourne - to be used for the Ubuntu-AU ongoing CD distribution efforts and also for use with groups like Computer Bank Linux Users Victoria (LUV) - good work Peter Baker! Brisbane - donated to Home Unix Brisbane User Group (HUMBUG) to use to distribute to new IT students at various O week functions in the coming week as part of their efforts. Paul Gear had been organising a sticker order for the team as well so when that seemed to fall through somewhere along the line we were able to make up the order from the CDs and sticker left overs. I'm lead to believe these have all now been distributed as well, good work Paul, sounds like you were able to get a heap of them out. I apologise for making these decisions quickly but with less than 2 months before the new release which will make these CDs obsolete I wanted to make the best use of them as quickly as possible. I'm now confident the vast majority of the CDs we had leftover will not be sitting in someone's garage or bedroom cupboard just waiting to be used but will now actually be put to good use as they were intended to by Canonical. Lastly I would like to thank Canonical for providing these CDs and other paraphernalia we were able to use for the LCA event and beyond, I think the whole process has been quite a success. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive
Martin Pool [2011-02-17 18:02 +1100]: https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/BuildFromBranchIntoPrimary How do we distinguish commits that ought to be built from those that don't? A very common workflow for packages is to commit the actual changes to the package while keeping the upload target as UNRELEASED. Once you want to upload it, you do dch -r to flip the upload target to natty (or maverick-proposed, etc.), and commit that change with debcommit -r, which will also tag the revision with the package version number. In order to fulfill the at least as secure requirement, we'd need to additionally GPG-sign that release commit. So IMHO a package should be built on each commit which has a tag and a GPG signature. Thanks! Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 08:47:04 am Martin Pitt wrote: Scott Kitterman [2011-02-17 6:51 -0500]: 1. From the LEP: Disabling dput uploads is not a nice to have. While we shouldn't disable it in general, ever (see my other reply), I'd highly welcome disabling dput on a per-package basis. I waste a lot of time cleaning up behind people who just upload one of my packages without committing their changes to bzr. Except, as you know, they aren't yours. I don't think we want to change the Ubuntu philosophy on package maintainers. Perhaps it would be possible to streamline the fixup process with additional automation so it wouldn't be a problem for you? Scott K -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Re: build-from-branch into the primary archive
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Loïc Minier loic.min...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 19, 2011, Scott Kitterman wrote: Perhaps a reasonable middle ground would be some new X-USE-UDD field (pick a better name please) in debian/control and a changet to dput that would either ask an are you sure y/N question or require -f to upload. That way it could be set without needed any changes on the launchpad end. Actually I liked Steve Langasek's approach of putting the UDD branch in Vcs-Bzr when the UDD branch is used to stage UNRELEASED changes (We usually don't but lp:ubuntu URLs in Vcs-Bzr because it's kind of implicit that we have this branch in every package, but there is not way to tell whether the UDD branch is in use or not; listing it explicitly when it's used solves this) Perhaps making the resolution behaviour when someone uses dput better would be sufficient to avoid this sort of extra configuration? -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Xubuntu Community Meeting 2011-02-03 minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 = 2011-02-10 Meeting Minutes = == Old Business == * Old business - all * Xubuntu marketing plans - carried forward * We need to start either a ML item or webpage item for marketing == Team updates == === Packaging Development === * A few syncs/merges from debian experimental (now that squeeze is released, xfce 4.8 is being uploaded) * Some bugfixes on xubuntu-default-settings, and a few patches submitted upstream to fix some minor issues * Natty deadline for any updates is Feb 24th for non-bugfix === Bug Triage Testing === * We tested and released Natty Narwhal Alpha2! Great job, and many thanks to everybody that helped === Website Marketing === * Suggestion from ochosi - it would be great if the first page would show the slideshow that is shown during installation. * Template for new website design: http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/xubuntu1104c.png * the idea is to go with the new branding, and in general make the intro page simple and clean * it was also suggested that we make the news items more interesting, get more creative with something like alpha 3 released - now with shiny chromium theme! * ochosi to write an article about artwork due for news on website === Artwork === * ochosi has been working pretty hard lately to make the resize-grip less obnoxious * ochosi and knome will put together some logo designs to be discussed as the menu icon * The proposed generic icons for default apps in xubuntu are now being discussed. * [VOTE] This is to determine use of a generic icon in the launchers, while keeping the brand icon in the menu * 4 for, 2 against, motion carried to use generic icons * [ACTION] ochosi and mr_pouit will change panel launchers to generic icons * if we have dropped the word Applications from the menu, we need to update the docs again == Updates for Xubuntu 10.04.2 == * We will be testing the images for 10.04.2 February 15 == Announcements == * Natty Narwhal Alpha2 will release today == Any Other Business == * hunderbird-locales still needs testing in maverick-proposed if anyone had time * Next meeting is in one week, Frebruary 17, #ubuntu-meeting, at 19:00 UTC. * [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2011-02-10 | Meeting log]] == Action items for the 2011-02-10 meeting == * ochosi and knome will put together some logo designs to be discussed as the menu icon * ochosi and mr_pouit will change panel launchers to generic icons * ochosi to write an article about artwork due for news on website == Carried Forward == Please see the [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Xubuntu_2010-01-10 | previous log]] === Xubuntu Governance === * The governancy part of the current Strategy Document can be found at [[Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu Governance Team Structure]] * The Xubuntu project will advance towards a Council-based governance approach. === The Xubuntu Council === * The Council size should be 5 members, with one of them being the PL. * PL will have a vote in every voting in the Council, not just as a tie-breaker. * The 4 members in the Council in addition to the PL should be selected by the existing Xubuntu Contributors. * The appropriate Team Lead can be the tiebreaker in a vote, but only if PL is absent. * The council should *aim* to have balanced membership across the different aspects/teams of Xubuntu. * The council should be named/selected after every LTS release. Thus, every season lasts for 2 years. - -- Charlie Kravetz Xubuntu Project Lead Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNYCJnAAoJEFNEIRz9dxbAe9IH/jGTj59HtiOeUOVGwL9M6dBV 3s6Qqs+Hjn+vs09RN3QNNMyuqBOfZ/nav91Mh8TCfR5nWSw6lHhmQKHMqQg8nw/U Cq5rUxwwuCXIpi0t1X+lsr7w6RMUQ76WiWxTHBUTMeiBCk0KNoub3PEmFgjGK6FG Oyo4c57VGtBY3gyOsJunUTGa3FApCSs6nRQElDODRjW6VlxX0IDzge4pFcpXJTYT 01Uv80bqnoD54hQV7kofgl0dgkKxcW+m5FCVevk2ymoKYybNnQT+arLmp0H9kXdj IFqzFG0YJKaVm8Z3jOKF+EessEkjhNH0YLmwy2UvMUPUWDyM986/+qrYi7deZTk= =By+M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- xubuntu-devel mailing list xubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
Xubuntu Community Meeting 2011-02-17 minutes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 = 2011-02-17 Meeting Minutes = == Old Business == * Old business - all * Xubuntu marketing plans - carried forward * shimmer project to move items pertaining to Xubuntu to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu * We need to start either a ML item or webpage item for marketing == Team updates == === Packaging Development === * More syncs from debian experimental * Updated xfce4-session and tumbler to the latest upstream releases * More bugfixes/improvements for xubuntu-default-settings (Bug #79053, Bug #718177, mostly menu tuning, feedback welcome!) * Launchpad bug 79053 in xfdesktop Network menu entry is confusing (Xubuntu) [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79053 * Launchpad bug 718177 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) The current Xubuntu menu hides too many entries [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718177 * Uploaded update-notifier to fix restarting with 4.8 (Bug #716905) * Launchpad bug 716905 in update-notifier (Ubuntu Natty) [Xubuntu] Unable to restart [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/716905 * Fixed a few plugins to work with the new panel (xfce4-weather-plugin, xfce4-timer-plugin). * some bugs reported for the integration with ubiquity * ochosi is working hard on making gmusicbrowser final for natty, should be ready next week before the freeze === Bug Triage Testing === * This week we tested the iso images for 10.04.2. There are no issues blocking release. * We need some testers and a new testing lead, if anyone is interested * We need to have some more people looking at Natty, so we can get the feedback to mr_pouit and ochosi in time for any changes needed. * We have Natty Alpha3 coming out in two weeks. === Website Marketing === * Suggestion from ochosi - it would be great if the first page would show the slideshow that is shown during installation. * it was also suggested that we make the news items more interesting, get more creative with something like alpha 3 released - now with shiny chromium theme! * ochosi to write an article about artwork for publication as news on website * ask knome to do some drafts with a grey background and a black background * submit an RT to Canonical for wordpress * knome is to set up a tele-conference of some type to discuss marketing * alpha3 will have all the artwork and theme changes === Artwork === * we need someone to update the slideshows displayed during the installation, they are badly outdated (they were made for karmic or lucid) * knome can update the technical parts, if provided with natty information === Discuss panel launchers for natty === * after some discussion, the following was presented: Default panel launchers to be * Desktop | Browser Email Musicplayer Terminal Abiword SoftwareCenter Appfinder | Folders == Updates for Xubuntu 10.04.2 == * Xubuntu 10.04.2 will be released on 2011-12-17 == Announcements == * Xfce is starting on 4.10 now, to be ready in January 2012. * It will include Accessibility built in, if it goes according to plan * if it stays on schedule - ready for LTS release in April 2012 == Any Other Business == * Next meeting is in one week, Frebruary 24, #ubuntu-meeting, at 19:00 UTC. * [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2011-02-17 | Meeting log]] * proposal we take up the strategy document starting in three weeks, a bit at a time, the meeting of March 10. == Action items for the 2011-02-10 meeting == * ochosi and knome will put together some logo designs to be discussed as the menu icon * ochosi and mr_pouit will change panel launchers to generic icons * ochosi to write an article about artwork due for news on website == Action items for the 2011-02-17 meeting == * shimmer project to move items pertaining to Xubuntu to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu * knome is to set up a tele-conference of some type to discuss marketing * find someone to update the slideshow == Carried Forward == Please see the [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Xubuntu_2010-01-10 | previous log]] === Xubuntu Governance === * The governancy part of the current Strategy Document can be found at [[Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Xubuntu Governance Team Structure]] * The Xubuntu project will advance towards a Council-based governance approach. === The Xubuntu Council === * The Council size should be 5 members, with one of them being the PL. * PL will have a vote in every voting in the Council, not just as a tie-breaker. * The 4 members in the Council in addition to the PL should be selected by the existing Xubuntu Contributors. * The appropriate Team Lead can be the tiebreaker in a vote, but only if PL is absent. * The council should *aim* to have balanced membership across the different aspects/teams of Xubuntu. * The council should be named/selected after every
Call for friendly-recovery testing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Ubuntu Translators, I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader. Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console. To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a workaround. To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on that locales. 1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc. 3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and password to login. 4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7. Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below. Thanks in advance. Locale: (output of locale command) Affected: YES/NO Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters) [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/573502 [2] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47192384/Ubuntu%2010.04%20LTS%20Lucid%20Lynx%20%28Installed%29%20%5B%E5%AE%9F%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%AD%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE_001.png - -- Nobuto MURATA / 村田信人 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJNX+oJAAoJEHWRC3hfrJQAAHoQAI7w6jBexeeaCkPmvHjYOgnr KRnOoGQe2QIQlmJR8vJUxtYGQCl5qH2VFSfo5Q9+c5pWbiuhQBpvlQijv++cFnB+ 2UpJzo97vI422jMHYZKzjsdSlRpLDELw0LQfTOkRMjl/WRK0jLSXYH70SQ8C5mD4 xsXa7hLcG1Zdp1jUiApl8Q6AwIqE2kbdxaWkXsmMEvMNO0ly9BGyU/kFUcJ7pQBW btz9QnInsS5ZeG+OMI5H0brmeZ9dkQb3REV7bCGdBQss5gbmNQucnpuMnldpxZvG HNIlqE/EB0HoLvCrvbPWsYJc1bT6QlteMyMCKsfeecobRXcVGsrfa+VUzX2yBMGo NbOAFSXdx2vXzKpo5TiBWbsHlEV99oilbmXhM8ZPPs/qz+T0n1kERrwUNJRUjX2J yQjuWeDfQXdu6NC/U3fAxocpJtAR0VGvcqn26K7VWl4tVjn7OKNNsH71/rm3vTTU 4mlr6U6mjCcTimK+F3zCX4RpxlzayN71ZhNK1nLGAtGZj2Op4fNgJzbIDIK/+bar 87uc3amxHSsYUI4eT1KUQOR6upXpYePgQKFUP5JJVuKnb+TdiP0x+ma8eOnNy6+a oZ3tKIe/rXpxFoYhfyJwNB3MEpFKeMj5yJ+zRGJFVNYDn8V2CPc+2v+EWdKus/v1 iicv5wNz7f0y+5wAiJOj =66oT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
2011/2/19 Nobuto MURATA nob...@nobuto-murata.org: Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below. Thanks in advance. Locale: (output of locale command) Affected: YES/NO Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters) Locale: ru_RU.UTF-8 Affected: YES Percentage: 100% (but latin characters in words resume, clean, grub, etc. are all visible) --Artem -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Þann lau 19.feb 2011 16:04, skrifaði Nobuto MURATA: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Ubuntu Translators, I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader. Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console. To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a workaround. To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on that locales. 1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc. 3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and password to login. 4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7. Please feedback your result by replying to this e-mail like below. Thanks in advance. Locale: (output of locale command) Affected: YES/NO Percentage: (percentage of unreadable characters) [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/573502 [2] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47192384/Ubuntu%2010.04%20LTS%20Lucid%20Lynx%20%28Installed%29%20%5B%E5%AE%9F%E8%A1%8C%E4%B8%AD%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE_001.png - -- Nobuto MURATA / 村田信人 OK for Icelandic LANG=is_IS.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Tested on 10.04, 10.10 and LinuxMint 10 Sveinn í Felli -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 01:04:26AM +0900, Nobuto MURATA wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Ubuntu Translators, I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader. Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console. To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a workaround. To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on that locales. 1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc. 3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and password to login. 4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7. For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_* ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using 10.04 right now). Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Egyptian -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Hi, everything's OK with Croatian translation. Locale: hr_HR.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Cheers! -- Sasa Tekovic -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Hi, Locale: pt_BR.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Cheers, - André Gondim E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br OpenPGP keys: C9721403 - On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 20:19, Sasa Tekovic s...@ubuntu-hr.org wrote: Hi, everything's OK with Croatian translation. Locale: hr_HR.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Cheers! -- Sasa Tekovic -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
2011/02/20 10:19 Quynh Vu Do vdqu...@gmail.com: Vietnamese is not translated = not affcted (yet) Locale: vi_VN The menu shows in English. After going to the console CTRL+ALT+F2 the default locale is LANG=en_US.UTF8 changing the locale by doing $LANG=vi_VN then /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu shows the menu in English changing the locale by doing $LANG=vi_VN.UTF8 also shows a menu in English. In case that menus are not translated yet in your locale, could you take additional steps below? 1. Translate messages on friendly-recovery roughly (just for testing). 2. Save as a UTF-8 encoded text file. 3. Go to console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2. 4. Open the saved file like the line below. $ cat ~/saved_file.txt 5. Check that unreadable characters exists. This steps can simulate the issue and check your locale is potentially affected. -- Nobuto MURATA / 村田信人 -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: ubuntu-translators Digest, Vol 77, Issue 18
/Zk3XQMoHN7VLW+C+AHy4zJ65BPhAI+JhimruBIAevRS6XJqUuORYyifSaCGE2yo OQX4iLTnZUaV8PVfwMGHFqRUcAg0TKGdiWXUhpOK6GnNKXLj5U0oUFHtPbpwbdYc ZOIQGeXMrDgVK0zKpcZ/7tsUXR50B0i4T+evDiCMgx0dgLGOiGjSqZnZ+nBuEVIV LgqE1MeQo8t/O+fI6gUPuwwjo89crp0R26r3TsFIkqdpqwqksaZ0/lKy2USV15DW dBQFoQcCAydDXZR/vMF5pq/a2EGjet/HWKuKHDG1BCAl6D96quaul5HusYrEscqD x6EFA1iv7ZOJja9F+SPD =1Yhk -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Message: 6 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:55:42 +0200 From: Khaled Hosny khaledho...@eglug.org To: Nobuto MURATA nob...@nobuto-murata.org Cc: ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing Message-ID: 20110219215541.GA6661@khaled-laptop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 01:04:26AM +0900, Nobuto MURATA wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Ubuntu Translators, I'd like to ask translators to test whether your locales are affected by Bug #573502[1]. This bug is related to friendly-recovery which is used in order to solve unbootable situation that X setting is broken or disks are fully filled. It can be accessed from an entry on bootloader. Currently in some locales like Chinese, Japanese and Korean, the menu has unreadable characters. You can see the example screenshot[2]. This issue comes from limited fonts which we can use on console. To show all characters properly, friendly-recovery is needed to use framebuffer. Implement of the solution would take some time. So we are going to make loading translations disable on affected locales as a workaround. To do so, we need complete list of affected locales. You can test whether your locale is affected along with the steps below. Currently zh_*, ja_JP and ko_KR are confirmed as affected, so no need to test on that locales. 1. Open gnome-terminal. Then execute the line below. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 2. You can see menus fully translated. Then press Esc. 3. Go to the console by pressing Ctrl+Alt+F2 and input username and password to login. 4. Execute the line below again and see whether unreadable characters exist. $ /usr/share/recovery-mode/recovery-menu 5. Then press Esc, and you can go back to the desktop by pressing Alt+F7. For Arabic (testing ar_EG locale, but should be true for other ar_* ones), with default console font all the Arabic text is unreadable, but if change console font to an Arabic capable one (any of /usr/share/consolefonts/Arabic-* fonts) I get readable Arabic text (with proper right to left and shaping), so for Arabic a fix would involve choosing a suitable default console font. IIRC, some previous Ubuntu release had suitable Arabic font by default, I don't remember which one as it have been years since I tried Arabic in the console (I'm using 10.04 right now). Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Egyptian -- Message: 7 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:19:08 +0100 From: Sasa Tekovic s...@ubuntu-hr.org To: ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing Message-ID: aanlktimc1wpv67zj91ycehjveg9uvl39mt0wdbq0r...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, everything's OK with Croatian translation. Locale: hr_HR.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Cheers! -- Sasa Tekovic -- Message: 8 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:38:21 -0200 From: Andr? Gondim andregon...@ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing Message-ID: AANLkTi=W=Y142qG1h9RjwoLx0SJY=wcodon8+_-y8...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, Locale: pt_BR.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Cheers, - Andr? Gondim E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br OpenPGP keys: C9721403 - On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 20:19, Sasa Tekovic s...@ubuntu-hr.org wrote: Hi, everything's OK with Croatian translation. Locale: hr_HR.utf8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Cheers! -- Sasa Tekovic -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/attachments/20110219/980f5e71/attachment.html -- -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators End of ubuntu-translators Digest, Vol 77, Issue 18 ** -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: Call for friendly-recovery testing
Locale: bg_BG.UTF-8 Affected: NO Percentage: 0% Best Regards, Krasimir Chonov -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: mixbus
Hello, Sorry to interrupt; but, can I ask for Digikam help here? *Digikam F-spot limitations w/HP Photosmart R742* -- My Digikam recognizes my camera but fails to pull photos on my HP Photosmart R742. My digikam album shows 58 photos out of +/- 300 on the HP. What routine can I use to capture the remaining photos on my HP camera? It would be nice to transfer photos on my hard drive into digikam album but I can't call them in, i.e., from an Opera file or from prior F-Photo manager downloads. F-Spot photo manager forces one into the biz of manually overcoming downloads photos from cascading folders named 2011 02 18 etc. no way to catalog photos alternatively. Are these KDE specific; KXstudio 10.04.02 specific; or Digikam limitations generally? My Mac G-4 downloaded all photos in minutes but I have no studio that allows producing. k78724@Kproductions:~$ ls -al ~/ | grep .kde drwx-- 3 k78724 k78724 4096 2008-10-13 15:42 .kde drwx-- 3 k78724 k78724 4096 2008-12-08 08:37 .kde4 Kenneth 2011/2/11 psycho psychon...@gmail.com Mixbus pour linux est enfin la Mixbus is out -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: mixbus
lol -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Problemas com java
Olá André, como vão as coisas por aí? tudo bem? É o seguinte eu sabia do java da SUN e o utilizava até a versão 9.10 mas depois do 10.04 agora estou no 10.10 sempre utilizei o java da comunidade e o BB e receita aceita sem reclamar o que não acontecia antes nos obrigando a instalar o da SUN. Mas acho que ele ainda não tem 100% de compatibilidade pois o site da Samsung reclamou. O fato é que eu não estava querendo utilizar o da SUN, pois a comunidade está dando um duro para desenvolver seu próprio java e eu gostaria de valorizar o trabalhos deles. Mas obrigado pela dica. E bom final de semana pra ti aí. Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 23:33, André Gondim andregon...@ubuntu.comescreveu: Olá Ávila, Dá uma lida em: http://va.mu/6n Abraços e boa sorte, - André Gondim E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br OpenPGP keys: C9721403 - 2011/2/18 Ávila . genin...@gmail.com Boa noite lista. Estou com um problema para acessar o site da Samsung http://www.samsung.com/br/support/repair/repairTracking.do?page=REPAIR.TRACKING Creio que é por causa do java. Mas o fato é que uso banco mais precisamente o do brasil e programas da receita sem problemas. Agora vem essa da samsung e agarra. Estou usando o OpenJDK, alguem poderia da uma olhada aí se é só o meu ou é problema do site com o OpenJDK. -- Ávila (31)9325-6871 https://launchpad.net/~genin10 http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ A caixa dizia: 'Requer MS Windows ou superior', então eu instalei Debian/GNU Linux Ubuntu User #29645 Linux User #499959 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Ávila (31)9325-6871 https://launchpad.net/~genin10 http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ A caixa dizia: 'Requer MS Windows ou superior', então eu instalei Debian/GNU Linux Ubuntu User #29645 Linux User #499959 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa tradutor de legendas de filmes
2011/2/18 Edson.Yahoo ecpor...@yahoo.com.br Poderiam indicar-me um programa para Ubuntu que faça traduções de legendas de filmes? existem programas que editam legendas, como o gnome-subtitles. Para traduzir, o translate.google.com. -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell
antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. x2 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04. Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell
Bom saber leandro! Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. x2 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04. Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell
Leandro, mas o resto funciona perfeitamente? TIpo Vídeo por exxemplo? Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 09:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.comescreveu: Bom saber leandro! Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. x2 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04. Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell
*Cicero, até hoje não observei nenhuma carencia. Lembro de apenas ter precisado conectar um cabo de rede para instalar o drivers proprietários do Wi-fi e da Nvidia. Acredito que a versão 10.10 também não apresente problemas, mas preferi permanecer na 10.04 por ser uma LTS. [semi-OT] O único problema que tive foi o teclado empenado que estava marcando o LCD. Liguei para a Dell me fizeram tirar o teclado do notebook, pediram para verificar se era o note ou o teclado que estava empenado. E depois disto, mandaram um novo teclado e um técnico para fazer a instalação. Isto tudo em menos de 48 horas! Atendimento nota 1000. [\semi-OT] *Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.comescreveu: Leandro, mas o resto funciona perfeitamente? TIpo Vídeo por exxemplo? Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 09:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom saber leandro! Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. x2 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04. Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] [OFF-TOPIC] Sugestão de notebook dell
*Apenas um detalhe, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201001-4955 Existe uma lista de versoes do ubuntu e compatibilidades com uma série de hardwares. Antes de comprar é sempre bom dar uma olhada! http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/makes *Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:23, Leandro Marino leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu: *Cicero, até hoje não observei nenhuma carencia. Lembro de apenas ter precisado conectar um cabo de rede para instalar o drivers proprietários do Wi-fi e da Nvidia. Acredito que a versão 10.10 também não apresente problemas, mas preferi permanecer na 10.04 por ser uma LTS. [semi-OT] O único problema que tive foi o teclado empenado que estava marcando o LCD. Liguei para a Dell me fizeram tirar o teclado do notebook, pediram para verificar se era o note ou o teclado que estava empenado. E depois disto, mandaram um novo teclado e um técnico para fazer a instalação. Isto tudo em menos de 48 horas! Atendimento nota 1000. [\semi-OT] * Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.comescreveu: Leandro, mas o resto funciona perfeitamente? TIpo Vídeo por exxemplo? Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 09:08, Cicero Rocha fralve...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom saber leandro! Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 08:20, Leandro Marino leandromar...@leandromarino.com.br escreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. x2 Tenho um Vostro 3300 que funciona quase perfeitamente, não sei ainda como configurar o multitouch nele e nem o leitor biométrico. Fora isto, tudo perfeito. Estou com o ubuntu 10.04. Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 20:58, Clayton Silva Lima claytonl...@gmail.comescreveu: antes de fechar teu pedido via site, acesse o chat ou ligue no 0800 e tente negociar o frete. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Cícero Pinho Rocha Lic. em Computação Nº SBC: 22733 Linux User# 530448 Ubuntu User# 33191 Professor da EEEP Mons. Expedito da Silveira de Sousa - Camocim - CE skype: profcicero.rocha Mensageiro: profcicero.ro...@hotmail.com www.profcicerorocha.blogspot.com / professordetecnologia.pro.br Email: alve...@openoffice.org (88) 3621-2936 / (88) 8803-0133 /(86) 9470-7765 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor
Caros, Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser ouvido. Tenho certo pudor em criar mensagens que estejam foram do escopo do grupo, por isso, dei um jeito de introduzir o assunto sub-repticiamente nesta mensagem. É que além de não estar satisfeito de o meu Ubuntu não ter gravado o meu som, não estou satisfeito com o próprio microfone. Ele está a funcionar, disso não há qualquer dúvida, pois conectado ao meu gravador digital, ele funciona perfeitamente, mas é que gostaria de comprar outro microfone que fosse mais adequado ao fim que lhe pretendo dar. Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada. Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas figurassem em minha gravação. Então, se tivessem alguma sugestão sobre microfones que fossem bons para gravar voz sem captar muito ruído ambiente, eu lhes agradeceria muitíssimo. Luciano de Souza -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor
2011/2/19 Luciano de Souza luchya...@gmail.com Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser ouvido. Não vou dar dicas de microfone porque não conheço do assunto. Mas recomendo que você faça o seguinte teste: Abra as preferências de som. Na aba Entrada, há os dispositivos de som. Provavelmente vai aparecer apenas o microfone da sua placa, já selecionado. Verifique se não há outro (algumas webcams tem microfones embutidos). Faça testes falando e ajustando o volume que se encontra nesta aba. Um indicador abaixo do volume vai indicar quanto som está sendo captado pelo microfone. Depois de ajustar o volume corretamente, faça um novo teste de gravação. -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com http://ostelematicos.blogspot.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor
Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:44, Luciano de Souza luchya...@gmail.comescreveu: Caros, Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser ouvido. Sugiro que verifique, além da fonte selecionada na opção Gravar da entrada, no mixer do PulseAudio ou Alsa (dependendo do sistema de som que você esteja utilizando) se a entrada correspondente está selecionada e se o nível de áudio (volume) está ajustado adequadamente. (corte) Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada. Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas figurassem em minha gravação. Você vai precisar de microfones profissionais, de preferência direcionais com cobertura de espuma. Mas o microfone sozinho não faz milagres. para um som do jeito que você descreve a solução se chama camara anecoica, e aí, meu amigo, nem Ubuntu, nem outro sistema operacional qualquer dão jeito. (corte) Luciano de Souza Abraço -- Paulo de Souza Lima Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador http://www.pasl.net.br http://almalivre.wordpress.com Curitiba - PR Linux User #432358 Ubuntu User #28729 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor
Você resolveu mais do que apenas o problema que descrevi. Achei que duas das caixas de som tinham queimado. Na verdade, elas apenas estavam emudecidas no controle de volume. Desta vez, a gravação ficou boa, ou melhor, tão boa quanto o meu pobre microfone é capaz de soar. Obrigado! Em 19-02-2011 10:57, xisberto escreveu: 2011/2/19 Luciano de Souzaluchya...@gmail.com Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser ouvido. Não vou dar dicas de microfone porque não conheço do assunto. Mas recomendo que você faça o seguinte teste: Abra as preferências de som. Na aba Entrada, há os dispositivos de som. Provavelmente vai aparecer apenas o microfone da sua placa, já selecionado. Verifique se não há outro (algumas webcams tem microfones embutidos). Faça testes falando e ajustando o volume que se encontra nesta aba. Um indicador abaixo do volume vai indicar quanto som está sendo captado pelo microfone. Depois de ajustar o volume corretamente, faça um novo teste de gravação. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor
Tenho um gravador digital da Olympus. Ele tem qualidade de som excelente. Ao contrário do que sucede com o microfone do computador, não possui ruído de fundo, mas apenas o ruído do ambiente. O microfone do computador custou R$ 35,00 e o gravador R$ 360,00, então, é mesmo natural que haja diferença. Estou satisfeitíssimo com a qualidade do gravador, apenas não fui capaz de fazê-lo ignorar um pouco mais o ruído ambiente. Como não é minha intenção gastar R$ 5000,00 com um microfone profissional, então, é melhor ajeitar-me com o que tenho. É claro que não esperava que o microfone fosse tão bom ao ponto de não captar a turbina de um Boeing, enquanto trabalha a cinco metros. Há algum motivo para que estúdios de gravação sejam coisas caras, mas como o microfone do computador é ruim, pensei que poderia conseguir algo melhor para este objetivo. Mas pelo que vejo, conseguir uma boa qualidade de gravação, é mesmo coisa mais simples do que filtrar o som para que os ruídos possam ser ignorados. Se selecionar melhor os momentos em que gravo, poderei conseguir uma qualidade razoável que, aliado a alguma efeito do Audacity, talvez seja o melhor que posso conseguir sem apelar para grandes investimentos. Em 19-02-2011 10:58, Paulo de Souza Lima escreveu: Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:44, Luciano de Souza luchya...@gmail.comescreveu: Caros, Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser ouvido. Sugiro que verifique, além da fonte selecionada na opção Gravar da entrada, no mixer do PulseAudio ou Alsa (dependendo do sistema de som que você esteja utilizando) se a entrada correspondente está selecionada e se o nível de áudio (volume) está ajustado adequadamente. (corte) Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada. Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas figurassem em minha gravação. Você vai precisar de microfones profissionais, de preferência direcionais com cobertura de espuma. Mas o microfone sozinho não faz milagres. para um som do jeito que você descreve a solução se chama camara anecoica, e aí, meu amigo, nem Ubuntu, nem outro sistema operacional qualquer dão jeito. (corte) Luciano de Souza Abraço -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Uma gravação muda e um microfone que poderia ser melhor
*O melhor microfone que você pode comprar é um microfone profissional (tipo os de karaokê mesmo) pois estes captam apenas o som em uma linha reta. Um da Leson custa R$ 100,00. Pode-se encontrar facilmente em lojas de instrumentos musicais. http://www.leson.com.br/v1/home/index.php Tenho até hoje um modelo SM-58 deles e funciona perfeitamente. Agora, você irá precisar de um cabo XLR - P-10 e um adaptador P-10 para P2. Dependendo do uso será necessário um pedestal para o microfone, assim não terá que ficar segurando o mesmo! *Atenciosamente, Leandro Marino http://www.leandromarino.com.br (Fotógrafo) http://est.leandromarino.com.br/Blog (Estatístico) Cel.: + 55 21 9845-7707 Cel.: + 55 21 8777-7907 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 11:23, Luciano de Souza luchya...@gmail.comescreveu: Tenho um gravador digital da Olympus. Ele tem qualidade de som excelente. Ao contrário do que sucede com o microfone do computador, não possui ruído de fundo, mas apenas o ruído do ambiente. O microfone do computador custou R$ 35,00 e o gravador R$ 360,00, então, é mesmo natural que haja diferença. Estou satisfeitíssimo com a qualidade do gravador, apenas não fui capaz de fazê-lo ignorar um pouco mais o ruído ambiente. Como não é minha intenção gastar R$ 5000,00 com um microfone profissional, então, é melhor ajeitar-me com o que tenho. É claro que não esperava que o microfone fosse tão bom ao ponto de não captar a turbina de um Boeing, enquanto trabalha a cinco metros. Há algum motivo para que estúdios de gravação sejam coisas caras, mas como o microfone do computador é ruim, pensei que poderia conseguir algo melhor para este objetivo. Mas pelo que vejo, conseguir uma boa qualidade de gravação, é mesmo coisa mais simples do que filtrar o som para que os ruídos possam ser ignorados. Se selecionar melhor os momentos em que gravo, poderei conseguir uma qualidade razoável que, aliado a alguma efeito do Audacity, talvez seja o melhor que posso conseguir sem apelar para grandes investimentos. Em 19-02-2011 10:58, Paulo de Souza Lima escreveu: Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 10:44, Luciano de Souza luchya...@gmail.comescreveu: Caros, Com o gravador de som do Ubuntu, falei um pouco ao microfone. O som foi gravado, mas ao acionar o botão reproduzir, embora, na tela, constasse a informação de que o som realmente era reproduzido, nenhum som podia ser ouvido. Sugiro que verifique, além da fonte selecionada na opção Gravar da entrada, no mixer do PulseAudio ou Alsa (dependendo do sistema de som que você esteja utilizando) se a entrada correspondente está selecionada e se o nível de áudio (volume) está ajustado adequadamente. (corte) Gostaria de gravar um bocado de falação. Gostaria que o microfone fosse bastante nítico e que ignorasse ao máximo o som ambiente. Imagine-se entusiasmado em um discurso, falando sobre qualquer tema filosófico ou metafísico e, de forma nada metafísica, um bebê chora estridentemente no apartamento vizinho ou, então, um motorista buzina para chamar a namorada. Estas coisas são verdadeiras emanações de vida, mas não gostaria que elas figurassem em minha gravação. Você vai precisar de microfones profissionais, de preferência direcionais com cobertura de espuma. Mas o microfone sozinho não faz milagres. para um som do jeito que você descreve a solução se chama camara anecoica, e aí, meu amigo, nem Ubuntu, nem outro sistema operacional qualquer dão jeito. (corte) Luciano de Souza Abraço -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalação
desistalei e vou instalar de novo e ver no que da -- From: Emilio Fernandes emili...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 7:01 PM To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalação Na hora da instalaçao, quando for configurar o usuário escolha a opção login automatico sem senha Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 18:32, Paulo Henrique Colen paulo.co...@gmail.com escreveu: Tenta logar no sistema, apertando Crtl+Alt+F1. via abrir o terminal, vc coloca usuario e senha, se passar, digita, service gdm start 2011/2/18 100% tivil...@hotmail.com mas como vou fazer isto se não entro no sistema, ele não abre o sitema fica pedindo senha -- From: Emilio Fernandes emili...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:02 PM To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] instalação tente marcar a opção de Login automatico na opção de usuário! Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 17:20, 100% tivil...@hotmail.com escreveu: Preciso de ajuda, instalei ubuntu10 no meu notbook através do wubi e ao reiniciar ele atualizou e depois reiniciou de novo pedindo a senha, ponho a mesma senha que pús no inicio da instalação e ele não entra, sempre volta a mesma tela pedindo a senha, já desisntalei e instalei de novo e aconteceu o mesmo. O que faço.? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Emilio Seidel Fernandes Tec. Desenvolvimento de Sistemas Distribuídos - UTFPR Curitiba -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Emilio Seidel Fernandes Tec. Desenvolvimento de Sistemas Distribuídos - UTFPR Curitiba -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa tradutor de legendas de filmes
On 18-02-2011 23:08, Edson.Yahoo wrote: Boa Noite a todos. Poderiam indicar-me um programa para Ubuntu que faça traduções de legendas de filmes? Grato Edson o subdownloader procura legendas pros filmes na internet. Geralmente acha... glib -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa tradutor de legendas de filmes
Edson, Veja aí se serve para seu propósito. http://universalsubtitles.org/en/about Inteh, Em 19 de fevereiro de 2011 11:37, gil gilg...@gmail.com escreveu: On 18-02-2011 23:08, Edson.Yahoo wrote: Boa Noite a todos. Poderiam indicar-me um programa para Ubuntu que faça traduções de legendas de filmes? Grato Edson o subdownloader procura legendas pros filmes na internet. Geralmente acha... glib -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- == ..:Luiz Paulo Colombiano:.. Contra Negantem Principia Non Est Disputandum Graduando Eng Elétrica - Unifacs Linux User # 415937 Lattes:http://lattes.cnpq.br/9789604686994795 O possível só é atingível através da tentativa de se atingir o impossível. Karl Liebcknecht -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Openvpn e estações windows
Boa tarde a todos... Tenho um problema com o openvpn que já está me deixando maluco !!! A conexão é entre dois firewalls, ambos rodando Shorewall. O servidor tem 4 placas de redem uma para o ip válido, e três segmentos internos, 172.16.2.xxx, 172.16.3.xxx e 172.16.4.xxx . Estes é o arquivo de configuração do servidor : dev tun #proto tcp-server port 7794 local 186.xxx.43.18 remote 186.xxx.43.10 ifconfig 192.168.99.2 192.168.99.1 route 172.16.0.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.1 push route 192.168.10.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway tls-server dh dh2048.pem ca /etc/openvpn/keys/ca.crt cert /etc/openvpn/keys/server_ cities.crt key /etc/openvpn/keys/server_cities.key comp-lzo link-mtu 1542 auth none SHA1 cipher BF-CBC keysize 128 verb 5 No cliente existem apenas 2 placas de rede, e a rede local atualmente é 172.16.0.xxx,mas eu já tentei colocar o ip do cliente em 192.168.10.xxx e o problema persistiu ! este é o arquivo de configuração do cliente : dev tun #proto tcp-client port 7794 local 186.xxx.43.10 remote 186.xxx.43.18 ifconfig 192.168.99.1 192.168.99.2 route 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.2 route 172.16.3.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.2 route 172.16.4.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.99.2 push route 172.16.2.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway push route 172.16.3.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway push route 172.16.4.0 255.255.255.0 vpn_gateway tls-client dh dh2048.pem ca /etc/openvpn/keys/ca.crt cert /etc/openvpn/keys/cities.crt key /etc/openvpn/keys/cities.key comp-lzo link-mtu 1542 auth none SHA1 cipher BF-CBC keysize 128 verb 5 E esta é a saída do log segue anexo, pois é muito grande para que seja postado em texto . Os ips válidos foram editados, por razões óbvias ! E finalmente o problema : Os pacotes não circulam !!! O objetivo é que as máquinas na rede cliente possam ter acesso aos volumes de rede da rede do servidor, mas elas não se enxergam ... Não há nenhuma msg de erro, a conexão é estabelecida, como o log mostra, mas nada acontece Qualquer ajuda será muito útil .. Fábio Rabelo Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: Current Parameter Settings: Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: config = '/etc/openvpn/172-16-2.conf' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: mode = 0 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: persist_config = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: persist_mode = 1 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: show_ciphers = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: show_digests = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: show_engines = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: genkey = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: key_pass_file = '[UNDEF]' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: show_tls_ciphers = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: Connection profiles [default]: Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: proto = udp Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: local = '186.201.43.10' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: local_port = 7794 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: remote = '186.201.43.18' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: remote_port = 7794 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: remote_float = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: bind_defined = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: bind_local = ENABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: connect_retry_seconds = 5 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: connect_timeout = 10 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: connect_retry_max = 0 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: socks_proxy_server = '[UNDEF]' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: socks_proxy_port = 0 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: socks_proxy_retry = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: Connection profiles END Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: remote_random = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: ipchange = '[UNDEF]' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: dev = 'tun' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: dev_type = '[UNDEF]' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: dev_node = '[UNDEF]' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: lladdr = '[UNDEF]' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: topology = 1 Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: tun_ipv6 = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: ifconfig_local = '192.168.99.1' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: ifconfig_remote_netmask = '192.168.99.2' Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: ifconfig_noexec = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: ifconfig_nowarn = DISABLED Feb 19 13:50:09 condominio ovpn-172-16-2[12379]: shaper = 0 Feb 19 13:50:09
[Ubuntu-BR] [DICA] - Tutorial gnucash basico em PDF
Procurando informações no Google sobre a utilização do GnuCash, encontrei esse PDF muito bem escrito sobre sua utilização básica. ftp://ftp.feis.unesp.br/softwarelivre/Apostilas/Gnucash/tutorial_gnucash_basico_2010.pdf Como complemento de informação, vai uma teoria pra ajudar no entendimento do funcionamento do programa: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Método_das_partidas_dobradas Espero que ajude as informações. Anderson -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Ponderando a criação de uma conta de usuário
Olá Luciano com o comando useradd tem a opção de colocar o cara automaticamente em agun grupos não estou com um linux no momento mas se você ler o manual do comando man useradd tem um parâmero que permite fazer as coisas com relação ao acesso à pasta o comando chmod pode resolver abraço -- Marlon Valério ┌┐ T0ddy Stone Brains └┘ Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 15:40, Emilio Fernandes emili...@gmail.comescreveu: Sim, o comando useradd realmente não dá permissões ao usuario criado, porém pela interface grafica de criação de contas você pode conseguir criar o usuario corretamente da maneira que deseja. Comando não sei se existe, mais você pode remover essa opção dos arquivos de configuração do GDM, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.mult na parte: [daemon] # Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged # in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key. AutomaticLoginEnable=false Caso queira deixar o usuário livre com login automatico adicione as seguintes linhas [daemon] # Automatic login, if true the first local screen will automatically logged # in as user as set with AutomaticLogin key. AutomaticLoginEnable=true AutomaticLogin=livre Em 18 de fevereiro de 2011 15:24, luciano de souza luchya...@gmail.comescreveu: Criei um novo usuário e ele teve a audácia de esbanjar 29KB! Se tudo o que é replicado encontra-se em /home/[usuário}, então, poderia tranqüilamente incluir uns 500 usuários, ainda que não houvesse qualquer razão para tal. Fiquei um tanto assustado quando criei a conta. O leitor de telas, sim, porque sou cego e utilizo leitor de telas, não funcionou ao me autenticar com a nova conta. Depois entendi que o comando useradd cria um usuário sem qualquer privilégio, nem mesmo o de participar do grupo audio que lhe daria acesso à placa de som. Utilizei os comandos useradd e passwd, mas houve algo que não consegui fazer. A máquina já tinha a conta luciano, o todo poderoso administrador. Agora, criei uma conta chamada livre. Luciano iniciava diretamente sem pedir senha no início do Ubuntu. Desejava que os arquivos de Luciano não pudessem ser vistos por livre, mas quando, tendo-me autenticado com livre, acesso /home/luciano, vejo todo o conteúdo que lá existe. quando instalei o Ubuntu, ele perguntou-me se desejava iniciar automaticamente. Naquele tempo, sim, desejava. Hoje não mais. Este é o comportamento desejado para livre, mas não para luciano. Saberiam de algum comando que me permitisse obrigar à solicitação de senha para o usuário Luciano? Em 17/02/11, Luciano de Souzaluchya...@gmail.com escreveu: Caros, Um colega, utilizando Windows, criou uma segunda conta de usuário. Ficou muito impressionado. Disse-me que foi grande o espaço de disco consumido e que, portanto, estava convencido de que o Windows replicava uma quantidade de informação extraordinariamente grande. Pensava em criar outro usuário. Na verdade, é coisa que ainda preciso aprender. Ouvi dizer que o Linux é excelente no gerenciamento de usuários. Devo concluir que pouco espaço em disco é consumido quando uma nova conta é criada? É claro que não tenho motivos para tal, mas, apenas por curiosidade, pergunto: ele facilmente agüentaria dois, cinco ou dez usuários? Que conseqüências haveria em se criar muitos usuários? Luciano de Souza -- Luciano de Souza -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Emilio Seidel Fernandes Tec. Desenvolvimento de Sistemas Distribuídos - UTFPR Curitiba -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br