Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] plasma desktop
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018, Erich Eickmeyer wrote: On Jun 13, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Len Ovens wrote: I installed Studio 18.10 today and then dropped kubuntu-desktop in on Good info, but why couldn’t we have ubuntustudio-desktop-xfce pull lightdm and have ubuntustudio-desktop-plasma pull sddm? That said, sddm is extremely theme-able and wouldn’t be a bad replacement if we have to go that route. I am assuming that a good percentage of people will choose both DEs. In that case we want the one that works for both. Having said that, I am quite sure I could create a lightdm configuration that would not show the Wayland entry or the plain xfce/plasma entries. It would be similar word to do the same thing on sddm, but if we leave things alone... then if someone installs studio and then installs gnome on top then the login gnome style will just work. Quite honestly, I think we could provide plasma as a DE by changing kubuntu-desktop a very little to give our backdrop and the one tweak for window stacking. I would also suggest removing the Wayland-related package to fix the problem described above. I think until Wayland becomes mainstream, it’s a no-go for us. It would be nice to know where they are. I grabbed the file list for kubuntu-desktop (depends and suggests) and there are no wayland files in there. I think we would have to try blacklisting them one at a time. I do not even know that Studio is free from Wayland related files. dpkg -l | grep 'wayland' when run on Studio 18.04 already gives a long list of wayland stuff. So I think it is stuff we pull in from core. If someone has more time than I do, they are welcome to create a Studio core... but moving away from the ubuntu core would aside from taking a lot of time mean we can't really say "Studio is Ubuntu, try asking that on #ubuntu". Unless we were going to seed two ISOs as previously discussed, because then it would just be a matter of whichever ISO the user picks. Also, an I will create a ubuntustudio-plasma-seed. When I feel reasonably confident about it, someone can find out how to get that to be built :) idea could be to pull a Kubuntu & Lubuntu and switch to Clamares (sp?) instead of Ubiquity. From what Simon has told me, it’s a bit easier to work with. It would be starting over... I think the thing to do is to create two desktop metas, add them to a standard desktop. then if the user chooses to not install either, force install the default or smaller of the two. (or fvwm :) -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] plasma desktop
On Jun 13, 2018, at 3:10 PM, Len Ovens wrote: > > I installed Studio 18.10 today and then dropped kubuntu-desktop in on top. > This pretty much just worked with one exception. After logout I found there > were two "Plasma" sessions (as well as ubuntustudio and xfce). On selecting > the first of the two and logging in, I found that I had no mouse and no > keyboard... I ended up using the reset button. The second "plasma" worked > fine when I had rebooted. As happened, while installing kubuntu-desktop I was > asked to choose the display manager and because that is what we have been > using, that was what I chose. So I went through the packages that get loaded > and found sddm was part of it. I found the config screen and switched the DM > to sddm. Now there were still two Plasma entries, but one of them was clearly > labeled (Wayland)... so ya, Wayland doesn't work. If we are going to add > different DEs to studio, we may wish to look into sddm as a replacement for > lightdm as it provides a little more info about the session. Good info, but why couldn’t we have ubuntustudio-desktop-xfce pull lightdm and have ubuntustudio-desktop-plasma pull sddm? That said, sddm is extremely theme-able and wouldn’t be a bad replacement if we have to go that route. > Quite honestly, I think we could provide plasma as a DE by changing > kubuntu-desktop a very little to give our backdrop and the one tweak for > window stacking. I would also suggest removing the Wayland-related package to fix the problem described above. I think until Wayland becomes mainstream, it’s a no-go for us. > The bigger thing will be changing the chooser plugin for ubiquity. Unless we were going to seed two ISOs as previously discussed, because then it would just be a matter of whichever ISO the user picks. Also, an idea could be to pull a Kubuntu & Lubuntu and switch to Clamares (sp?) instead of Ubiquity. From what Simon has told me, it’s a bit easier to work with. Erich -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[ubuntu-studio-devel] plasma desktop
I installed Studio 18.10 today and then dropped kubuntu-desktop in on top. This pretty much just worked with one exception. After logout I found there were two "Plasma" sessions (as well as ubuntustudio and xfce). On selecting the first of the two and logging in, I found that I had no mouse and no keyboard... I ended up using the reset button. The second "plasma" worked fine when I had rebooted. As happened, while installing kubuntu-desktop I was asked to choose the display manager and because that is what we have been using, that was what I chose. So I went through the packages that get loaded and found sddm was part of it. I found the config screen and switched the DM to sddm. Now there were still two Plasma entries, but one of them was clearly labeled (Wayland)... so ya, Wayland doesn't work. If we are going to add different DEs to studio, we may wish to look into sddm as a replacement for lightdm as it provides a little more info about the session. Quite honestly, I think we could provide plasma as a DE by changing kubuntu-desktop a very little to give our backdrop and the one tweak for window stacking. The bigger thing will be changing the chooser plugin for ubiquity. -- Len Ovens www.ovenwerks.net -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
