Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
Ok. So I have no clue what's going on now. Look's like any QT4 app can do it *if* they added support. Maybe a update triggered this. I didn't see one hit that would give me a clue. http://mma.users.ubuntustudio.org/Screenshot.png Unfortunately, there's gray text. We can be responsible for what this looks like because if we change one thing here another breaks. Damn people using GTK in non-standard ways. We'll try to do what we can. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
D. Michael McIntyre skrev: On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: If possible, I'd like to see: This is probably no longer necessary. The list will puke on my large attachments, so here, look at this and tell me you aren't happy with the result: http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo.png I don't know what this used to look like, but I would hazard QT apps never looked so much like the native GNOME stuff on Ubuntu Studio. (I can't fix the colors in QJackCtl though. They seem hard-coded.) AMAZING!!! Ketil -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Paul DeShaw wrote: FWIW, I have never seen any of my apps with that color scheme in Ubuntu Studio since upgrading to Gutsy. Wrong. Actually it was changing to XFCE as my default desktop that changed the theme. XFCE is now broken, thanks to some weird bug in XMMS that freezes the desktop. This last time, all the menus and tool bars disappeared as well, before I could ctrl-alt-F2 out of there and reboot. So now I use GNOME or KDE. Good thing I had all three installed. I have removed XMMS. The evil Destroyer of Desktops is no more. sniff but it worked so well, when it worked, and so many plugins... --Paul in Seattle -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Here's what it looks like now. http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo2.jpg Nothing huh? I'm really surprised, and pretty much disgusted too. Spit. Kiss my ass then. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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Sorry to hear about your job situation. I hope it all works out well. Luis On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:16 AM, D. Michael McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: Well, once its reattached you can do porn. :P LMAO!! D. Michael McIntyre Un-Cut Starring: D. Michael McIntyre, Silicone Jane, Phaque Huterz, Tubit Skank, Crack Addict #1, Crack Addict #3, Crack Addict #14, Ron Jeremy, Peter North, Tatas the Bodacious, and That Midget Girl from The Naked Mile Format: Blu-Ray Length: 12 hours! Price: 50 for $5 No problem. I'll be around. Lucky for you that American Axle is on strike, and I'm not working. My job situation totally sucks. I'm going to run out of money soon, and then I don't know what I'm going to do. I'd like to say it's time to quit pissing my life and my true talent away driving an 18-wheeler, but the last time I went through all of this, I played every card in the deck, and guess what I wound up doing to survive? Right. Driving the damn 18-wheeler. It turns out my true talent is specializing in everything nobody pays you money to do. We know you wrote the book on Rosegarden, Mr. McIntyre, but how are you with Microsoft Flumbuzzle 3000? Does that run on Linux? What is Linux? Sigh. O Shuttleworth, I need rescuing badly. Uh... Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked Mr. Winky, but I can't figure this out. I guess you're whining about the way QJackCtl doesn't look all dark gray like the native stuff. All I can find is stuff that makes GTKn apps look more like QT, and not the reverse. I thought looking at everything from a GNOME-native perspective might give me some insight, but no, I have no clue. A monumental waste of effort and energy, I'm afraid, but I do hope you won't get all pissy about how nobody is ever willing to help you. I tried. BTW, I had a broken window manager again, and no Kubuntu influences this time. Started with plain Ubuntu, installed ubuntustudio-* and when I logged back in, no window manager was in evidence. Same problem I have on an unofficial Kubuntu Studio Gutsty. Doesn't look like it's related to swapping GNOME out after all. All we are is piss in the wind. --Kanvas -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked Mr. Winky, but I can't figure this out. I've had another look, and the reason I can't figure this out is because I'm really not sure what the problem is, or if there actually is a problem here. I've got KDE back on that box now, and going back and forth between KDE and GNOME, the look and feel of these QT3 apps is definitely changing. They don't look GNOME native, but they look quite different under GNOME, and memory tells me that might actually be how they looked on Gutsy. I'm not sure. Can you or somebody please send me some screenshots (the window under cursor capture mode would be great, if the GNOME equivalent of KSnapShot has this mode) of QJackCtl and anything else worth paying special attention to? If possible, I'd like to see: A) What it's supposed to look like when everything is normal (eg. a shot of this in its native GNOME environment on Gutsy, or a Hardy at a point in time when everything is behaving) B) What it looks like in this new state I'm trying to fix to make it go back to looking like A I'm thinking I will determine there is no problem on this particular installation, but even from this particular state, I can probably make the QT3 apps look more GNOME-like, perhaps even moreso than they had ever been before, so this whole exercise probably won't have been for nothing after all. Oh, and thanks for the words of support Luis. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: If possible, I'd like to see: This is probably no longer necessary. The list will puke on my large attachments, so here, look at this and tell me you aren't happy with the result: http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo.png I don't know what this used to look like, but I would hazard QT apps never looked so much like the native GNOME stuff on Ubuntu Studio. (I can't fix the colors in QJackCtl though. They seem hard-coded.) I'll deal with the rest in private with Cory. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked Mr. Winky, but I can't figure this out. I've had another look, and the reason I can't figure this out is because I'm really not sure what the problem is, or if there actually is a problem here. I've got KDE back on that box now, and going back and forth between KDE and GNOME, the look and feel of these QT3 apps is definitely changing. They don't look GNOME native, but they look quite different under GNOME, and memory tells me that might actually be how they looked on Gutsy. I'm not sure. Can you or somebody please send me some screenshots (the window under cursor capture mode would be great, if the GNOME equivalent of KSnapShot has this mode) of QJackCtl and anything else worth paying special attention to? If possible, I'd like to see: A) What it's supposed to look like when everything is normal (eg. a shot of this in its native GNOME environment on Gutsy, or a Hardy at a point in time when everything is behaving) B) What it looks like in this new state I'm trying to fix to make it go back to looking like A I'm thinking I will determine there is no problem on this particular installation, but even from this particular state, I can probably make the QT3 apps look more GNOME-like, perhaps even moreso than they had ever been before, so this whole exercise probably won't have been for nothing after all. Oh, and thanks for the words of support Luis. Here's a screenshot for Skype on Gutsy. (best I can do) If I could get an older version of Hardy I think I could show you but I can't. Now, Skype on Hardy looks like Clearlooks/QT. http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6294/screenshotdx6.png -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
On Friday 28 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6294/screenshotdx6.png So much for that, I guess. It doesn't look like that at all (I guess I have the same Skype; I had to go download it, and create a dummy account just to see this), and seems to have the same general colors as QJackCtl, which I can't get rid of either. Trying one more thought... -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Friday 28 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6294/screenshotdx6.png So much for that, I guess. It doesn't look like that at all (I guess I have the same Skype; I had to go download it, and create a dummy account just to see this), and seems to have the same general colors as QJackCtl, which I can't get rid of either. Trying one more thought... This is why I think there's been a systemic change somewhere. I was hoping it would be the simple matter of installing some lib but it's not looking good. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
On Friday 28 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: This is why I think there's been a systemic change somewhere. I was hoping it would be the simple matter of installing some lib but it's not looking good. I dicked around with KConfig too, and nothing changed Skype one iota. It does look interesting to tell KDE to use the GNOME icon set (interesting as in totally pukey, but I'm trying to look at this as a unified presentation, and it's subtly more unified now.) I also have a KDE Ubuntu Studio color scheme now. If I go one bigger and supply a default rosegardenrc that has the bundled theme option turned off, the colors come out even better. None of this actually affects Skype or QJackCtl at all, which both seem totally bullet proof as far as getting their presentation to change, but I just turned all of this back to factory defaults to compare the difference running Rosegarden and QSynth, and the difference is very striking compared to a user with no .qt or .kde directories taking the config from the lib default settings. It almost seems a good enough answer to all those whiners who keep demanding a GTK port. I wouldn't do this in such a way that these new settings would get pulled in for a user installing Ubuntu Studio on top of something else, but for someone installing off your DVD and expected to be running GNOME, I think maybe I haven't wasted my time today after all. Here's what it looks like now. http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo2.jpg I haven't tarballed the new .kde directory, because I have to hand edit some stuff out of this to make a good /etc/skel template, and I have a vague feeling you're about to tell me this was all a futile exercise, because you were looking for some other answer to this question, and this whole approach is totally untenable for some reason. But maybe not. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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On Friday 28 March 2008, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: Here's what it looks like now. http://home.comcast.net/~documentarian/demo2.jpg And yeah, the KDE file dialog colors are crap, and I can't figure out why. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
I thought this had been improved and not broken. :S Anybody knows about this? Luis de Bethencourt On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:49 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something has flipped around because QT apps such as JACK Control are no longer using the colors from our theme. Does anyone know what might have changed that in Hardy? (sorry, I know nothing about QT) I'd like to fix this for the people who are gonna undoubtedly cry about it but if I get no help that's how its gonna stay. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel -- Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá luisbg [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG: B0ED1326 -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: Does anyone know what might have changed that in Hardy? (sorry, I know nothing about QT) I'd like to fix this for the people who are gonna undoubtedly cry about it but if I get no help that's how its gonna stay. I'm willing to play with this, but it might be tomorrow before I can get back to you with any findings. If you need instant assistance, I can't offer it, but I'm willing to go to some length of trouble to investigate this if you can afford to wait until I have the chance. Maybe as soon as this evening. If not, tomorrow morning. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: QT apps not using GTK colors now?
D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: Does anyone know what might have changed that in Hardy? (sorry, I know nothing about QT) I'd like to fix this for the people who are gonna undoubtedly cry about it but if I get no help that's how its gonna stay. I'm willing to play with this, but it might be tomorrow before I can get back to you with any findings. If you need instant assistance, I can't offer it, but I'm willing to go to some length of trouble to investigate this if you can afford to wait until I have the chance. Maybe as soon as this evening. If not, tomorrow morning. Killer. No rush tonight, but ASAP is cool. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: Killer. No rush tonight, but ASAP is cool. You're going to have to back me up if this goes to hell. I'm replacing my wife's stable and reliable Dapper with Ubuntu. Plain Ubuntu. You know, the one with the hideous and insufferable GNOME junk on it? If this goes south, I might wake up tomorrow with a certain important part of my anatomy cut off and hurled into a creek. She loves Lorena Bobbitt. You owe me one dude. If you think I'm a KDE fanboy, you ain't seen nothing. I'll get back to you directly. Probably in the morning. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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D. Michael McIntyre wrote: On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: Killer. No rush tonight, but ASAP is cool. You're going to have to back me up if this goes to hell. I'm replacing my wife's stable and reliable Dapper with Ubuntu. Plain Ubuntu. You know, the one with the hideous and insufferable GNOME junk on it? If this goes south, I might wake up tomorrow with a certain important part of my anatomy cut off and hurled into a creek. She loves Lorena Bobbitt. Well, once its reattached you can do porn. :P You owe me one dude. If you think I'm a KDE fanboy, you ain't seen nothing. I'll get back to you directly. Probably in the morning. No problem. I'll be around. -Cory \m/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
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On Thursday 27 March 2008, Cory K. wrote: Well, once its reattached you can do porn. :P LMAO!! D. Michael McIntyre Un-Cut Starring: D. Michael McIntyre, Silicone Jane, Phaque Huterz, Tubit Skank, Crack Addict #1, Crack Addict #3, Crack Addict #14, Ron Jeremy, Peter North, Tatas the Bodacious, and That Midget Girl from The Naked Mile Format: Blu-Ray Length: 12 hours! Price: 50 for $5 No problem. I'll be around. Lucky for you that American Axle is on strike, and I'm not working. My job situation totally sucks. I'm going to run out of money soon, and then I don't know what I'm going to do. I'd like to say it's time to quit pissing my life and my true talent away driving an 18-wheeler, but the last time I went through all of this, I played every card in the deck, and guess what I wound up doing to survive? Right. Driving the damn 18-wheeler. It turns out my true talent is specializing in everything nobody pays you money to do. We know you wrote the book on Rosegarden, Mr. McIntyre, but how are you with Microsoft Flumbuzzle 3000? Does that run on Linux? What is Linux? Sigh. O Shuttleworth, I need rescuing badly. Uh... Anyway, sorry to say, I gave it the ol' college try dude, and even risked Mr. Winky, but I can't figure this out. I guess you're whining about the way QJackCtl doesn't look all dark gray like the native stuff. All I can find is stuff that makes GTKn apps look more like QT, and not the reverse. I thought looking at everything from a GNOME-native perspective might give me some insight, but no, I have no clue. A monumental waste of effort and energy, I'm afraid, but I do hope you won't get all pissy about how nobody is ever willing to help you. I tried. BTW, I had a broken window manager again, and no Kubuntu influences this time. Started with plain Ubuntu, installed ubuntustudio-* and when I logged back in, no window manager was in evidence. Same problem I have on an unofficial Kubuntu Studio Gutsty. Doesn't look like it's related to swapping GNOME out after all. All we are is piss in the wind. --Kanvas -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
