Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 23:39 -0500, Mike Holstein wrote: On Feb 9, 2013 11:28 PM, leo le...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm using Ubuntu Studio Quantal 12.10 64 bit, Kernel Linux 3.5.0-23-lowlatency,GNOME 3.6.0 and love it. My focus is photography and am using Darktable 1.1.2, Gimp 2.8.2, Shotwell, and a few other apps. This kernel seems to have a very low latency with excellent results. My other hobby is music (jazz guitar) and I will be using Ardour, Jack, Patchage, etc. Question: Why are you removing Pulse Audio? I'm fairly new to the Linux world and I've read comments from others who say the same thing, indicating that Pulse Audio is problematic? Regards, Leo We are not.. Ralph removes pulse. Personally, I have used systems with and without pulse and had issues both ways. Pulse is fine, if it works for you, and if it doesn't, you can remove it... however, it is what most applications are expecting these days. I use JACK on ubuntustudio.. cheers! I don't know an app that really does need PA. However, simply run Ubuntu Studio with PA and test if audio is okay, when PA is installed. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Have had trouble with Pulseaudio getting in the way of jacks use of a db in 12,10 64bit, Am also useing 12.04.2 64bit, the new one as of yesterday.. it does not have this problem.. but it does have some others.. all this on a dimension 9100 dual processor with 4g memory and various drives. Using the onboard sound... On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Mac macdroi...@gmail.com wrote: I use jack primarily. PA caused issues in the past, but in 12.x my PA apps just show up as sinks/sources in jackctrl and just work alongside my jack sinks/sources. So, as noted, it may just work for you. Try it. On Feb 9, 2013 11:28 PM, leo le...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm using Ubuntu Studio Quantal 12.10 64 bit, Kernel Linux 3.5.0-23-lowlatency,GNOME 3.6.0 and love it. My focus is photography and am using Darktable 1.1.2, Gimp 2.8.2, Shotwell, and a few other apps. This kernel seems to have a very low latency with excellent results. My other hobby is music (jazz guitar) and I will be using Ardour, Jack, Patchage, etc. Question: Why are you removing Pulse Audio? I'm fairly new to the Linux world and I've read comments from others who say the same thing, indicating that Pulse Audio is problematic? Regards, Leo -- *From:* Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com *To:* ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2013 1:03 PM *Subject:* Re: new to Ubuntu Studio Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and Ubuntu 12.10, since Ubuntu Studio 12.10 does cause more issues, than Ubuntu 12.10 does. I recommend to install Ubuntu Studio 12.04. For Ubuntu Studio with Xfce you can remove pulseaudio. If you want to get rid of pulseaudio for GNOME 3, than build a dummy package with equivs http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html it's easy to do and doesn't cause an issue. You also could build the gnome-settings-daemon with pulseaudio disabled, I guess this is the only part of GNOME with the hard dependency. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and Ubuntu 12.10, since Ubuntu Studio 12.10 does cause more issues, than Ubuntu 12.10 does. I recommend to install Ubuntu Studio 12.04. For Ubuntu Studio with Xfce you can remove pulseaudio. If you want to get rid of pulseaudio for GNOME 3, than build a dummy package with equivs http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html it's easy to do and doesn't cause an issue. You also could build the gnome-settings-daemon with pulseaudio disabled, I guess this is the only part of GNOME with the hard dependency. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
On Feb 9, 2013 11:28 PM, leo le...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm using Ubuntu Studio Quantal 12.10 64 bit, Kernel Linux 3.5.0-23-lowlatency,GNOME 3.6.0 and love it. My focus is photography and am using Darktable 1.1.2, Gimp 2.8.2, Shotwell, and a few other apps. This kernel seems to have a very low latency with excellent results. My other hobby is music (jazz guitar) and I will be using Ardour, Jack, Patchage, etc. Question: Why are you removing Pulse Audio? I'm fairly new to the Linux world and I've read comments from others who say the same thing, indicating that Pulse Audio is problematic? Regards, Leo We are not.. Ralph removes pulse. Personally, I have used systems with and without pulse and had issues both ways. Pulse is fine, if it works for you, and if it doesn't, you can remove it... however, it is what most applications are expecting these days. I use JACK on ubuntustudio.. cheers! From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: new to Ubuntu Studio Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and Ubuntu 12.10, since Ubuntu Studio 12.10 does cause more issues, than Ubuntu 12.10 does. I recommend to install Ubuntu Studio 12.04. For Ubuntu Studio with Xfce you can remove pulseaudio. If you want to get rid of pulseaudio for GNOME 3, than build a dummy package with equivs http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html it's easy to do and doesn't cause an issue. You also could build the gnome-settings-daemon with pulseaudio disabled, I guess this is the only part of GNOME with the hard dependency. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Welcome to Ubuntu Studio! I'm running 12.10 on a Toshiba Sattelite p850 with an i7 processor and 6 GB RAM. Initially I installed the 64-bit 12.04, but didn't like some aspects of Thunar and met with some instability issues. After switching to 32-bit 12.10 everything's been stable and my only troubles were with understanding how to properly configure and run jack (which is not the fault of Ubuntu Studio!) I hear (actually, I read) about Pulse Audio causing many people headaches, but after I found my recipe I didn't meet with any recording obstacles except being to busy... What I do is make sure to start jack (with qjackctl) first thing after boot. Then in the pulse audio volume control I switch off built-in-audio and set jack sink as fallback for both playback and recording. This works like a charm with Roland's Edirol UA-25EX USB audio capture and Ardour, though I didn't put my setup to very demanding tests (only recording one channel at a time and doing some basic editing so far). Good luck! Alf On 28. jan. 2013 20:38, jack wallen wrote: Hello all! I just joined this list and am about to embark on using Ubuntu Studio. I'm a long time Linux/Ubuntu user, but now do a lot of audio recording (specifically, audio books). I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.10 because of a horrible issue with pulseaudio I hope will not rear it's ugly head in Ubuntu Studio. The issue is the dreaded skipping problem. Currently I have the Live version running (and waiting to pull the trigger until I have a bit more information). Has anyone experienced the dreaded skipping in Ubuntu Studio? I'm using the onboard Intel graphics chip with an i5 processor. I plan on installing the 64bit version. Also -- and I'm sure this is a touchy subject -- does it cause any issue if installing either Unity or GNOME 3? Thank you so much for any information you can offer. Jack -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
I'm curious what kind of issues you had, and if you're running the 32- or 64-bit version. I had some small troubles with 12.04 64-bit (system freeze or application crash) that's completely gone with 12.10 32-bit. And I prefer Nautilus over Thunar and enjoy that Ubuntu Studio did this change. Alf On 28. jan. 2013 21:16, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 20:57 +0100, Set Hallstrom wrote: I chose to stick with the LTS I made a typo in my previous mail, 10.04 is for 12.04. I experienced 12.04 as stable and 12.10 as buggy as hell. I'm anyway using both versions, but for 12.10 I switched from Ubuntu Studio to Ubuntu, since it does cause less issues. I'm using Xfce only. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Quantal and Precise both are 64-bit on my machine. Quantal often needs to delete ./cache regarding to performance issues. If you install software that isn't default for Ubuntu Studio, in my case it's Evolution, you can expect that many of this software doesn't work. I read about office suite versions that by upstream are not recommended for usage, but used by Ubuntu Quantal. However, for Evolution, it takes a long time to open emails, filtering junk doesn't work, detecting the account, that should be used for a reply doesn't work etc. pp. There seem to be tons of dbus issues. For audio production only, I experienced Quantal as working stable. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:38 PM, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.netwrote: Hello all! I just joined this list and am about to embark on using Ubuntu Studio. I'm a long time Linux/Ubuntu user, but now do a lot of audio recording (specifically, audio books). I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.10 because of a horrible issue with pulseaudio I hope will not rear it's ugly head in Ubuntu Studio. The issue is the dreaded skipping problem. Currently I have the Live version running (and waiting to pull the trigger until I have a bit more information). Has anyone experienced the dreaded skipping in Ubuntu Studio? I'm using the onboard Intel graphics chip with an i5 processor. I plan on installing the 64bit version. Also -- and I'm sure this is a touchy subject -- does it cause any issue if installing either Unity or GNOME 3? Thank you so much for any information you can offer. Jack your horrible pulse issues are likely not an issue with pulse, but more likely your expectations of pulse and/or your hardware. you might be expecting professional quality audio production workflow from pulse audio, and that is not what it was designed for. ubuntustudio uses JACK (as well as *the same* pulse audio from main ubuntu). JACK gives the user an environment where a pro audio workflow can happen. JACK might be overkill for your purposes though. what would i suggest? try ubuntustudio live, and see how JACK works for you... i personally think you would be better off with lubuntu (which doesnt ship with pulse) and just add the applications you use (such as audacity). if you are using something like audacity to record and edit a podcast, then ubuntustudio is certainly capable, but arguably overkill. something like lubuntu would not have the unnecessary overhead of running a large desktop environment, as well as pulse audio, when you dont need either. lubuntu could also be tried via live CD. -- jack wallen, jr --- lover of entropy Writer of the I Zombie, Fringe Killer, Shero, and Screampark series as well as the upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. Learn more @ www.monkeypantz.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- MH mikeholstein.info http://www.mikeholstein.info/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and Ubuntu 12.10, since Ubuntu Studio 12.10 does cause more issues, than Ubuntu 12.10 does. I recommend to install Ubuntu Studio 12.04. For Ubuntu Studio with Xfce you can remove pulseaudio. If you want to get rid of pulseaudio for GNOME 3, than build a dummy package with equivs http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html it's easy to do and doesn't cause an issue. You also could build the gnome-settings-daemon with pulseaudio disabled, I guess this is the only part of GNOME with the hard dependency. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Ralf, thank you for your suggestions. I have to say it's been a huge disappointment to experience this issue. I know the pusleaudio problems have been going on for quite some time -- but this particular machine is the first time I've experienced them. I thought maybe trying a sound card and disabling the onboard chip. Has anyone tried that? If so, what card did you try? Thanks again. Jack Hi :) I'm using Ubuntu Studio 10.04 and Ubuntu 12.10, since Ubuntu Studio 12.10 does cause more issues, than Ubuntu 12.10 does. I recommend to install Ubuntu Studio 12.04. For Ubuntu Studio with Xfce you can remove pulseaudio. If you want to get rid of pulseaudio for GNOME 3, than build a dummy package with equivs http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-helpers.en.html it's easy to do and doesn't cause an issue. You also could build the gnome-settings-daemon with pulseaudio disabled, I guess this is the only part of GNOME with the hard dependency. Regards, Ralf -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- jack wallen, jr --- lover of entropy Writer of the I Zombie, Fringe Killer, Shero, and Screampark series as well as the upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. Learn more @ www.monkeypantz.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:38:43 +0100, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net wrote: Hello all! I just joined this list and am about to embark on using Ubuntu Studio. I'm a long time Linux/Ubuntu user, but now do a lot of audio recording (specifically, audio books). I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.10 because of a horrible issue with pulseaudio I hope will not rear it's ugly head in Ubuntu Studio. The issue is the dreaded skipping problem. Haven't heard of it. What does it do? Currently I have the Live version running (and waiting to pull the trigger until I have a bit more information). Has anyone experienced the dreaded skipping in Ubuntu Studio? I'm using the onboard Intel graphics chip with an i5 processor. I plan on installing the 64bit version. Also -- and I'm sure this is a touchy subject -- does it cause any issue if installing either Unity or GNOME 3? No particular issues. Higher CPU on anything that does more graphic acceleration. gnome-shell is probably a bit easier than Unity. Thank you so much for any information you can offer. Jack -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
If pulseaudio is the only issue, why not just use jack for recording instead of changing distro? grtz, Bart http://www.bartart3d.be/ On facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/BartArt3D/169488999795102 On Twitter https://twitter.com/#%21/Bart_Issimo On Identi.ca http://identi.ca/bartart3d On Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/116379400376517483499/ 2013/1/28 jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.10 because of a horrible issue with pulseaudio I hope will not rear it's ugly head in Ubuntu Studio. The issue is the dreaded skipping problem. Haven't heard of it. What does it do? On certain audio chipsets (mine is an Intel) sound will randomly skip. this can even happen when recording -- which is causing me all sorts of headaches at the moment. -- jack wallen, jr --- lover of entropy Writer of the I Zombie, Fringe Killer, Shero, and Screampark series as well as the upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. Learn more @ www.monkeypantz.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
Had to add my $.02 about pulse audio. I had lots of issues in 8 thru 11 ub ubstudio. Enough that I switched to AV Linux for a while. But when I tried 12.04 the pa devices just show up in jack along side my firewire devices and my dsp source/sinks. No problems so far with 12.04 or 12.10 ub studio. On Jan 28, 2013 2:39 PM, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.net wrote: Hello all! I just joined this list and am about to embark on using Ubuntu Studio. I'm a long time Linux/Ubuntu user, but now do a lot of audio recording (specifically, audio books). I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.10 because of a horrible issue with pulseaudio I hope will not rear it's ugly head in Ubuntu Studio. The issue is the dreaded skipping problem. Currently I have the Live version running (and waiting to pull the trigger until I have a bit more information). Has anyone experienced the dreaded skipping in Ubuntu Studio? I'm using the onboard Intel graphics chip with an i5 processor. I plan on installing the 64bit version. Also -- and I'm sure this is a touchy subject -- does it cause any issue if installing either Unity or GNOME 3? Thank you so much for any information you can offer. Jack -- jack wallen, jr --- lover of entropy Writer of the I Zombie, Fringe Killer, Shero, and Screampark series as well as the upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. Learn more @ www.monkeypantz.net -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
Re: new to Ubuntu Studio
On 01/28/2013 12:53 PM, jack wallen wrote: I'm migrating from Ubuntu 12.10 because of a horrible issue with pulseaudio I hope will not rear it's ugly head in Ubuntu Studio. The issue is the dreaded skipping problem. Haven't heard of it. What does it do? On certain audio chipsets (mine is an Intel) sound will randomly skip. this can even happen when recording -- which is causing me all sorts of headaches at the moment. I had issues with audio dropouts and perhaps skips when I was using the default NVidia video driver. My issues went away when I installed the proprietary driver. -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users
