Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 software center - cannot install untrusted packages

2010-06-04 Thread ByteSoup

On 03/06/10 15:36, Liam Proven wrote:

In case of minor APT problems, the first things I do are a clean
followed by purging the cache. This means:

apt-get clean
apt-get autoclean

If that doesn't help then I also nuke the APT package cache, which is
in /var/cache/apt/archives .

   

Thanks Liam, this seems to have resolved my problem :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Error during update - duplicate entries

2010-06-04 Thread ByteSoup

On 03/06/10 20:06, Dianne Reuby wrote:

I'm getting this error on update:
W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/
lucid/partner Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages)

   
Hi, I had some other trouble with my software centre, and I got this tip 
from Liam Proven which sorted things out for me, it may work for you but 
its worth a shot:




In case of minor APT problems, the first things I do are a clean
followed by purging the cache. This means:

apt-get clean
apt-get autoclean

If that doesn't help then I also nuke the APT package cache, which is
in /var/cache/apt/archives .

Mark


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread micheal harker
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:31 PM, micheal harker micheal.har...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Ubuntu UK Team!

 Last Night in the meeting It was decided we are going to re-brand
 ubuntu-uk.org so I have made some mockups. Each Mocup has different ideas
 but with similar layouts.

 Mockup 1: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup1.png
 Mockup 2: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup2.png
 Mockup 3: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup3.png
 Mockup 4: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup4.png
 Mockup 5: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup5.png
 Mockup 6: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup6.png

 lets narrow it down to 3 ideas. I will make live demos of the Site then we
 will vote for the final one.

 Micheal H


Improved Mockup - http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/improved.png
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 3 June 2010 17:00, Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:
 I don't really see much point in reinventing the wheel here.  Luckily
 the Ubuntu Drupal team has setup a lovely theme and a few extra modules
 for Drupal which can design a wonderful website.  Here's a mockup of the
 site http://img2.pict.com/3e/8d/0b/3600091/0/1275580649.jpg .


Is the Ubuntu Drupal team anything to do with the Ubuntu Website
people - Matt Nuzum?

https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-May/000926.html

There is a team of people creating a common theme for LoCos to (optionally) use.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Joe Metcalfe
Hi,
Of these I liked 1 best. I don't think you should use 'interesting' menus (3
- 6) for the general public. I don't dislike London skyline, though I don't
live there. Other iconically British pictures - oak tree?
 
Joe

  _  

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To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups


Hi Ubuntu UK Team! 

Last Night in the meeting It was decided we are going to re-brand
ubuntu-uk.org http://ubuntu-uk.org/  so I have made some mockups. Each
Mocup has different ideas but with similar layouts.

Mockup 1: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup1.png
Mockup 2: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup2.png
Mockup 3: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup3.png
Mockup 4: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup4.png
Mockup 5: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup5.png
Mockup 6: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup6.png

lets narrow it down to 3 ideas. I will make live demos of the Site then we
will vote for the final one.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Simon Redmond
How about doing something like this instead of the skyline picture... just with 
more faces?

http://barbaragretter.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/faces_collage_30.jpg

Joe Metcalfe joe.metca...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Hi,
Of these I liked 1 best. I don't think you should use 'interesting' menus (3
- 6) for the general public. I don't dislike London skyline, though I don't
live there. Other iconically British pictures - oak tree?
 
Joe

  _  

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[mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of micheal harker
Sent: 03 June 2010 13:31
To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups


Hi Ubuntu UK Team! 

Last Night in the meeting It was decided we are going to re-brand
ubuntu-uk.org http://ubuntu-uk.org/  so I have made some mockups. Each
Mocup has different ideas but with similar layouts.

Mockup 1: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup1.png
Mockup 2: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup2.png
Mockup 3: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup3.png
Mockup 4: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup4.png
Mockup 5: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup5.png
Mockup 6: http://www.michealh.co.cc/ubuntu/ubuntu-uk/mockup6.png

lets narrow it down to 3 ideas. I will make live demos of the Site then we
will vote for the final one.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Christopher Swift
Ar Gwe, 2010-06-04 am 09:48 +0100, ysgrifennodd Alan Pope:
 On 3 June 2010 17:00, Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:
  I don't really see much point in reinventing the wheel here.  Luckily
  the Ubuntu Drupal team has setup a lovely theme and a few extra modules
  for Drupal which can design a wonderful website.  Here's a mockup of the
  site http://img2.pict.com/3e/8d/0b/3600091/0/1275580649.jpg .
 
 
 Is the Ubuntu Drupal team anything to do with the Ubuntu Website
 people - Matt Nuzum?
 
 https://lists.canonical.com/archives/ubuntu-website/2010-May/000926.html
 
 There is a team of people creating a common theme for LoCos to (optionally) 
 use.
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 
As far as I know,  not entirely sure but a few of the Ubuntu Drupal team
do help with that website project.  As I understand it though Ubuntu
Drupal was here before the Ubuntu Website and as such I'm guessing that
they contribute their work over to them in some form or another.



Actually just scrap the above,  I've checked their bzr branch at
lp:~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme and
there's seems to have been no revisions yet but then again that branch
was only made 10 days ago.  I have just however branched kuzeko's branch
to take a look and it seems pretty alright as a foundation.
Unfortunately my web-page screenshot tool isn't working but you can
access a preview at http://98.142.210.218/light-base-theme/ if needed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 4 June 2010 10:57, Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:

 Actually just scrap the above,  I've checked their bzr branch at
 lp:~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme and
 there's seems to have been no revisions yet but then again that branch
 was only made 10 days ago.  I have just however branched kuzeko's branch
 to take a look and it seems pretty alright as a foundation.
 Unfortunately my web-page screenshot tool isn't working but you can
 access a preview at http://98.142.210.218/light-base-theme/ if needed.

 Chris.

As a design this gets my vote. This would likely mean using Drupal but
hey - it might make things easier in the long term.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 4 June 2010 12:09, Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com wrote:
 As a design this gets my vote. This would likely mean using Drupal but
 hey - it might make things easier in the long term.


Ooh, that is pretty.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Bruno Girin
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 22:23 +0100, Joe O'Dell wrote:
 Hi
 
  I was wondering if maybe we could have pictures of places from across 
  the UK?
 
 Why not have a list on the Wiki of places people can take pictures of local 
 landmarks (CC-BY or PD licensed, of course) and then have a community vote as 
 to the best ones?

I'm happy to contribute any of my UK pictures, they're all CC-BY-SA:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brunogirin/tags/uk/page3/
(start on page 3 as the first 2 pages are all about last year's
Wimbledon so no landmarks there unless you consider Ana Ivanovic wacking
a ball being a landmark)

Bruno



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 12:09 +0100, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 On 4 June 2010 10:57, Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:
 
  Actually just scrap the above,  I've checked their bzr branch at
  lp:~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme and
  there's seems to have been no revisions yet but then again that branch
  was only made 10 days ago.  I have just however branched kuzeko's branch
  to take a look and it seems pretty alright as a foundation.
  Unfortunately my web-page screenshot tool isn't working but you can
  access a preview at http://98.142.210.218/light-base-theme/ if needed.
 
  Chris.
 
 As a design this gets my vote. This would likely mean using Drupal but
 hey - it might make things easier in the long term.

It definitely gets my vote too! It's slick and simple. I'm sure the
design can be adapted to other tools than Drupal if we want to, although
using Drupal would probably make things simpler.

Bruno



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[ubuntu-uk] Feedback on OpenERP installation how-to

2010-06-04 Thread Bruno Girin
Hi all,

I recently installed OpenERP and as I struggled to find documentation
that was really up to date for Lucid, I thought I'd write an how-to
article myself once I had worked it out [1]. So I'd be very interested
in any feedback on that article: is it clear, does it say everything it
needs to say and is it actually useful to anybody?

[1]
http://brunogirin.blogspot.com/2010/05/installing-openerp-on-ubuntu-1004-lts.html

Cheers,

Bruno



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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Rhys Morgan
Hi All,

 

This is pretty much a call for help. I have this morning been confronted
with a couple of opportunities which add up to the makings of a good Ubuntu
event.

 

I have been offered a venue free of charge on a selection of dates -
Ferneham Hall in Fareham, Hants

 

The venue has capacity for 600+ people, Wifi, Bar and extremely good
acoustics ( used for concerts ).

 

There are a few proviso's for this:

 

. We have to provide a section dedicated to Educational benefits of
open source software, complete with demonstrations and presentations. There
will be educational representatives attending from around the
Portsmouth/Southampton area as well as a few local councillors.

 

. We have to cover Ubuntu combined with low power consumption
computing aimed at businesses ( but not limited to ). 

 

Secondly, I have been in a meeting this morning at work with Asrock. In
passing I mentioned the possibility of this event and was greeted with an
offer of sample hardware for the event as well as an array of their cutting
edge hardware releases to help us demonstrate the abilities of Ubuntu.

 

I am also in the process of getting the local newspaper ( The News ) to
cover the event.

 

My main lackings for such an event are:

 

. People to give presentations

. People with sufficient knowledge to control the educational
section of the event.

. General help with the on-the-day event.

 

Any other suggestions/helpful hints or offers of help please let me know.

 

Regards

 

Rhys Morgan

 

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 software center - cannot install untrusted packages

2010-06-04 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:31 AM, ByteSoup bytes...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03/06/10 15:36, Liam Proven wrote:

 In case of minor APT problems, the first things I do are a clean
 followed by purging the cache. This means:

 apt-get clean
 apt-get autoclean

 If that doesn't help then I also nuke the APT package cache, which is
 in /var/cache/apt/archives .



 Thanks Liam, this seems to have resolved my problem :-)

 Mark

Excellent! Very glad to hear it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 13:49 +0100, Rhys Morgan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
  
 
 This is pretty much a call for help. I have this morning been
 confronted with a couple of opportunities which add up to the makings
 of a good Ubuntu event.
 
  
 
 I have been offered a venue free of charge on a selection of dates -
 Ferneham Hall in Fareham, Hants
 
  
 
 The venue has capacity for 600+ people, Wifi, Bar and extremely good
 acoustics ( used for concerts ).
 
  
 
 There are a few proviso's for this:
 
  
 
 ·We have to provide a section dedicated to Educational
 benefits of open source software, complete with demonstrations and
 presentations. There will be educational representatives attending
 from around the Portsmouth/Southampton area as well as a few local
 councillors.
 
  
 
 ·We have to cover Ubuntu combined with low power consumption
 computing aimed at businesses ( but not limited to ). 
 
  
 
 Secondly, I have been in a meeting this morning at work with Asrock.
 In passing I mentioned the possibility of this event and was greeted
 with an offer of sample hardware for the event as well as an array of
 their cutting edge hardware releases to help us demonstrate the
 abilities of Ubuntu.
 
  
 
 I am also in the process of getting the local newspaper ( The News )
 to cover the event.
 
  
 
 My main lackings for such an event are:
 
  
 
 ·People to give presentations
 
 ·People with sufficient knowledge to control the educational
 section of the event.
 
 ·General help with the on-the-day event.

I'd be quite happy to help out with any of this, depending on the date.
I understand you have a list of possible dates so it's not fixed yet.
However, can you advise more or less when it would be and whether it
would be during the week or over a weekend?

Bruno




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Rhys Morgan rhysmorgan1...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 This is pretty much a call for help. I have this morning been confronted
 with a couple of opportunities which add up to the makings of a good Ubuntu
 event.

 I have been offered a venue free of charge on a selection of dates -
 Ferneham Hall in Fareham, Hants

 The venue has capacity for 600+ people, Wifi, Bar and extremely good
 acoustics ( used for concerts ).

 There are a few proviso's for this:

 · We have to provide a section dedicated to Educational benefits of
 open source software, complete with demonstrations and presentations. There
 will be educational representatives attending from around the
 Portsmouth/Southampton area as well as a few local councillors.

 · We have to cover Ubuntu combined with low power consumption
 computing aimed at businesses ( but not limited to ).

 Secondly, I have been in a meeting this morning at work with Asrock. In
 passing I mentioned the possibility of this event and was greeted with an
 offer of sample hardware for the event as well as an array of their cutting
 edge hardware releases to help us demonstrate the abilities of Ubuntu.

 I am also in the process of getting the local newspaper ( The News ) to
 cover the event.

 My main lackings for such an event are:

 · People to give presentations

 · People with sufficient knowledge to control the educational
 section of the event.

 · General help with the on-the-day event.

 Any other suggestions/helpful hints or offers of help please let me know.

 Regards

 Rhys Morgan

I could possibly talk about the admin and licensing-cost angles of
FOSS in education, although my personal background is the SME arena.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Rhys,

Awesome opportunity!

On 4 June 2010 13:49, Rhys Morgan rhysmorgan1...@aol.com wrote:
 This is pretty much a call for help. I have this morning been confronted
 with a couple of opportunities which add up to the makings of a good Ubuntu
 event.


Sounds like it!

 · We have to provide a section dedicated to Educational benefits of
 open source software, complete with demonstrations and presentations. There
 will be educational representatives attending from around the
 Portsmouth/Southampton area as well as a few local councillors.


This sounds bigger than an Ubuntu event, and could probably pull in
people from other distros, upstream and other software vendors.

 · We have to cover Ubuntu combined with low power consumption
 computing aimed at businesses ( but not limited to ).


Sounds like the venue is big enough to cover multiple strands such as this.

 Secondly, I have been in a meeting this morning at work with Asrock. In
 passing I mentioned the possibility of this event and was greeted with an
 offer of sample hardware for the event as well as an array of their cutting
 edge hardware releases to help us demonstrate the abilities of Ubuntu.


Free hardware is always nice to have.

 · People to give presentations


I'm sure we can put a call out to the community, business types and Canonical.

 · People with sufficient knowledge to control the educational
 section of the event.

 · General help with the on-the-day event.


I suspect you'll have plenty of people offering help here.

 Any other suggestions/helpful hints or offers of help please let me know.


Figure out the date first. Other things will fall into place once
that's done. Having the venue already is a great start.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Rhys Morgan
All the dates I have been given are in July, I have a choice of any
Saturday/Sunday 7am - 3.30pm

I am open to suggestions subject to key people's availability

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Sent: 04 June 2010 13:59
To: UK Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Rhys Morgan rhysmorgan1...@aol.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 This is pretty much a call for help. I have this morning been confronted
 with a couple of opportunities which add up to the makings of a good
Ubuntu
 event.

 I have been offered a venue free of charge on a selection of dates -
 Ferneham Hall in Fareham, Hants

 The venue has capacity for 600+ people, Wifi, Bar and extremely good
 acoustics ( used for concerts ).

 There are a few proviso's for this:

 · We have to provide a section dedicated to Educational benefits
of
 open source software, complete with demonstrations and presentations.
There
 will be educational representatives attending from around the
 Portsmouth/Southampton area as well as a few local councillors.

 · We have to cover Ubuntu combined with low power consumption
 computing aimed at businesses ( but not limited to ).

 Secondly, I have been in a meeting this morning at work with Asrock. In
 passing I mentioned the possibility of this event and was greeted with an
 offer of sample hardware for the event as well as an array of their
cutting
 edge hardware releases to help us demonstrate the abilities of Ubuntu.

 I am also in the process of getting the local newspaper ( The News ) to
 cover the event.

 My main lackings for such an event are:

 · People to give presentations

 · People with sufficient knowledge to control the educational
 section of the event.

 · General help with the on-the-day event.

 Any other suggestions/helpful hints or offers of help please let me know.

 Regards

 Rhys Morgan

I could possibly talk about the admin and licensing-cost angles of
FOSS in education, although my personal background is the SME arena.
Contact details below!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 04/06/10 13:49, Rhys Morgan wrote:
 Hi All,

 This is pretty much a call for help. I have this morning been confronted
 with a couple of opportunities which add up to the makings of a good
 Ubuntu event.
snip /

We (The Alans of The Open Learning Centre) would almost certainly be 
delighted to help. Off the top of my head we could talk about:

* a school which save a shedload of money by using Linux on low power 
(Atom Revo) based hardware.

* the myriad of interesting and useful OSS Business Apps that are available

* low-power appliance-based server solutions

OSS and Education fit together like a hand and glove :-)

Most important bit for us is dates so we can schedule time to both be 
there and prepare. We are in Farnham, Surrey so Fareham isn't too far away.

Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu/New Technology Event

2010-06-04 Thread Jamie Bennett
On 4 Jun 2010, at 14:10, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:

 I'm sure we can put a call out to the community, business types and  
 Canonical.

I'm sure given this weeks Linaro announment that we can get someone to  
come along from Canonical/Linaro to talk about Ubuntu-on-ARM.

 Cheers,
 Al.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Matt Wheeler
On 4 June 2010 05:37, Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Matt Wheeler m...@funkyhat.org wrote:
 This is mostly fixable these days using @font-face (supported by
 current versions of all the major browsers) -- the font can simply be
 embedded into the site and downloaded by the browser ⢁).

 I wouldn't rely on that.  IE is still very picky about such things,
 and however much we might hope that people would be using Open Source
 options the fact is that the majority are not.

 Therefore, let's stick to web safe fonts

Actually this works fine in IE8, and if a particular font is what's
wanted I see no reason not to use it. Of course we should make sure it
still looks ok in browsers that don't support @font-face though!



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu UK Site Rebranding - Mockups

2010-06-04 Thread Christopher Swift
On 4 June 2010 12:53, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 12:09 +0100, Jonathon Fernyhough wrote:
 On 4 June 2010 10:57, Christopher Swift christopher.sw...@linux.com wrote:
 
  Actually just scrap the above,  I've checked their bzr branch at
  lp:~ubuntu-website-community/ubuntu-website/light-drupal-theme and
  there's seems to have been no revisions yet but then again that branch
  was only made 10 days ago.  I have just however branched kuzeko's branch
  to take a look and it seems pretty alright as a foundation.
  Unfortunately my web-page screenshot tool isn't working but you can
  access a preview at http://98.142.210.218/light-base-theme/ if needed.
 
  Chris.

 As a design this gets my vote. This would likely mean using Drupal but
 hey - it might make things easier in the long term.

 It definitely gets my vote too! It's slick and simple. I'm sure the
 design can be adapted to other tools than Drupal if we want to, although
 using Drupal would probably make things simpler.

 Bruno


Sorry for any confusion,  I was saying that the Ubuntu Website team
has no Drupal themes that I could find,  the one that I linked was an
HTML theme.  The site available at http://staging.profarius.com/ is
indeed a Drupal site.  The one at
http://98.142.210.218/light-base-theme/ on a VPS of mine is simply bog
standard HTML.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know, apologies] O2 Joggler - My success and a quick question please!

2010-06-04 Thread Dave Hanson
For those of you trying without any luck to get the O2 Joggler running
Ubuntu, I have had success with a Black HP 4GB USB (from PC World, Leeds
£9.99) and by using the image linked below, it works a lot smoother than
the Netbook Remix image that is floating around, and leaves enough space
on the disk to upgrade to Lucid (3 and a half hours wait mind - 2 1/2 to
go!).

http://fuzzylogic.co.uk/

I do have a question though...

The Joggler provides about 1GB of free space internally to copy over
images, videos etc, and I was wondering if it was possible to use this
free space as swap space due to the Joggler's on board RAM being only
approx 500MB - if possible this would surely only help performance??

[Apologies if that is an absolutely insane suggestion, still finding my
feet with you Ubuntu pro's ;)]

Thanks In Advance,

MorleyPotter.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know, apologies] O2 Joggler - My success and a quick question please!

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 4 June 2010 15:42, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 For those of you trying without any luck to get the O2 Joggler running 
 Ubuntu, I have had success with a Black HP 4GB USB (from PC World, Leeds 
 £9.99) and by using the image linked below, it works a lot smoother than the 
 Netbook Remix image that is floating around, and leaves enough space on the 
 disk to upgrade to Lucid (3 and a half hours wait mind - 2 1/2 to go!).


Good luck with that! I haven't seen anyone run Lucid successfully on
the Joggler.

Be prepared to get a black screen, console or nothing when you reboot to lucid.

Cheers,
Al.

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread e-mail b.drake
Hi there ...

The e-mail I sent to Michael brought a reply from a guy (In Delhi?) asking
for full details.  I have this morning received the attached.  I think it
clarifies Dell UK position quite well.  At least they state in writing that
they ARE prepared to honour the hardware warranty when we have installed
Ubuntu.  We now need loads of Eurobuntians asking Dell UK to reinstate the
Ubuntu machines

Barry Drake


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Barry,

On 4 June 2010 16:13, e-mail b.drake b.dr...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 The e-mail I sent to Michael brought a reply from a guy (In Delhi?) asking
 for full details.  I have this morning received the attached.  I think it
 clarifies Dell UK position quite well.  At least they state in writing that
 they ARE prepared to honour the hardware warranty when we have installed
 Ubuntu.  We now need loads of Eurobuntians asking Dell UK to reinstate the
 Ubuntu machines


Nice work! Thanks for following this through and letting us know, it's
a rather good bit of news for a Friday afternoon! I had a little
trouble reading the attachment, so here's the crux of the mail:-

However, it is suggested that even if the systems are shipped with
the Windows OS customers can change it to Ubuntu later, though dell
would not support the Ubuntu OS issues, the hardware warranty will not
be affected in anyway. 

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 04/06/10 16:13, e-mail b.drake wrote:
 Hi there ...

 The e-mail I sent to Michael brought a reply from a guy (In Delhi?)
 asking for full details.  I have this morning received the attached.  I
 think it clarifies Dell UK position quite well.  At least they state in
 writing that they ARE prepared to honour the hardware warranty when we
 have installed Ubuntu.  We now need loads of Eurobuntians asking Dell UK
 to reinstate the Ubuntu machines

 Barry Drake


Asus said the same to me when I got a netbook from them. I emailed them 
about their warranty before I wiped Windows but they said it was fine. 
Just don't expect us to support the software.

I think it would be a pretty poor show of any PC manufacturer to not 
warranty the hardware irrespective of what software is, or isn't, installed.

Al

I mentioned it in this blog post last year: 
http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/07/21/getting-your-microsoft-tax-refunded-1010-for-amazon-uk/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread Dianne Reuby
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 11:13 -0400, e-mail b.drake wrote:
 Hi there ...
 
 The e-mail I sent to Michael brought a reply from a guy (In Delhi?)
 asking for full details.  I have this morning received the attached.
 I think it clarifies Dell UK position quite well.  At least they state
 in writing that they ARE prepared to honour the hardware warranty when
 we have installed Ubuntu.  We now need loads of Eurobuntians asking
 Dell UK to reinstate the Ubuntu machines
 
 Barry Drake

Great work! What email address did you use? I can only find
phone/chat/postal contacts for them.

I'm saving your email for possible future use. :)

Dianne


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know, apologies] O2 Joggler - My success and a quick question please!

2010-06-04 Thread Dave Hanson
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:47:01 +0100
 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know,   apologies] O2 Joggler - My
   success and a quick question please!
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID:
   aanlktinizoxqromfxhublxskdo80egdsqvd-unpvw...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 On 4 June 2010 15:42, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 
  For those of you trying without any luck to get the O2 Joggler running 
  Ubuntu, I have had success with a Black HP 4GB USB (from PC World, Leeds 
  ?9.99) and by using the image linked below, it works a lot smoother than 
  the Netbook Remix image that is floating around, and leaves enough space on 
  the disk to upgrade to Lucid (3 and a half hours wait mind - 2 1/2 to go!).
 
 
 Good luck with that! I haven't seen anyone run Lucid successfully on
 the Joggler.
 
 Be prepared to get a black screen, console or nothing when you reboot to 
 lucid.
 
 Cheers,
 Al.


Cheers Al - Yeah it failed, i got a load of messages like this...

[134315.948864] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length =
443
[134395.949568] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length =
443
[134495.948082] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 5(5) BSS returned, data-length =
591
[134615.949559] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length =
443
[134735.949344] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length =
443
[134855.949462] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length =
443
[134975.948163] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length =
443

Oh well - Time to start again.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know, apologies] O2 Joggler - My success and a quick question please!

2010-06-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 June 2010 17:24, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:47:01 +0100
 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know,   apologies] O2 Joggler - My
   success and a quick question please!
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID:
   aanlktinizoxqromfxhublxskdo80egdsqvd-unpvw...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 On 4 June 2010 15:42, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 For those of you trying without any luck to get the O2 Joggler running
 Ubuntu, I have had success with a Black HP 4GB USB (from PC World, Leeds
 ?9.99) and by using the image linked below, it works a lot smoother than the
 Netbook Remix image that is floating around, and leaves enough space on the
 disk to upgrade to Lucid (3 and a half hours wait mind - 2 1/2 to go!).


 Good luck with that! I haven't seen anyone run Lucid successfully on
 the Joggler.

 Be prepared to get a black screen, console or nothing when you reboot to
 lucid.

 Cheers,
 Al.

 Cheers Al - Yeah it failed, i got a load of messages like this...

 [134315.948864] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134395.949568] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134495.948082] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 5(5) BSS returned, data-length = 591
 [134615.949559] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134735.949344] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134855.949462] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134975.948163] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443

 Oh well - Time to start again.

If you look at Dysentry's thread on his UNR version he explains why
lucid is a problem, a problem with some driver not available yet if I
remember correctly.  I am using that version successfully (his 1.3a
with the mods in the first post of his thread).  I do a dump of the
usb stick occasionally (using dd) so that if an update or whatever
mucks it up I can restore my previous working version rather than
going back to the start each time.

I have not tried the non unr version so I cannot comment on the relative speed.

Colin

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[ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Michael G Fletcher
Hi Guys

Haven't been on the list in ages! Hope everyone is well and enjoying
10.04 as much as I am :-)

I'm trying to fix a Computer of a friend of mine and it has Windows XP
Home edition on it.  I only have a copy of Windows XP Professional.
I'm desperately in need of a XP Home Edition CD.  Does anybody have a
copy of one floating around they could post to me?

I have a product registration key on the bottom of his Laptop, but
need the cd to repair his install.  I would try convert him to Ubuntu,
but he wasn't buying it :-(

Cheers
--Michael


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Rob Beard
On 04/06/10 17:47, Michael G Fletcher wrote:
 Hi Guys

 Haven't been on the list in ages! Hope everyone is well and enjoying
 10.04 as much as I am :-)

 I'm trying to fix a Computer of a friend of mine and it has Windows XP
 Home edition on it.  I only have a copy of Windows XP Professional.
 I'm desperately in need of a XP Home Edition CD.  Does anybody have a
 copy of one floating around they could post to me?

 I have a product registration key on the bottom of his Laptop, but
 need the cd to repair his install.  I would try convert him to Ubuntu,
 but he wasn't buying it :-(

 Cheers
 --Michael


What make is his laptop?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Michael G Fletcher
 What make is his laptop?

 Rob

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A Dell Inspiron 6000... trying to save his 38GB of music :-(

I got it to the point where it loads the Welcome screen, but when I
logon the user, it just automatically logs me out again.  I can get
into the safe-mode with command prompt, and tried to install SP3, but
doesn't seem to want to install!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Rob Beard
On 04/06/10 19:11, Michael G Fletcher wrote:
 What make is his laptop?

 Rob

 A Dell Inspiron 6000... trying to save his 38GB of music :-(

 I got it to the point where it loads the Welcome screen, but when I
 logon the user, it just automatically logs me out again.  I can get
 into the safe-mode with command prompt, and tried to install SP3, but
 doesn't seem to want to install!

 Michael


You'll probably find that a standard Windows XP CD won't work (that is, 
an OEM copy of Windows XP).  You'll need a specific Dell version which 
is tied to the Dell BIOS (funnily enough doing it this way any Dell 
Windows XP CD should work).  If you e-mail me off list I might possibly 
be able to help.

In the mean time, if he hasn't got an external hard drive, I'd suggest 
he gets one (I bought a 1TB Western Digital USB 2 hard drive yesterday 
from PC World for £60 using their collect from store option when 
reserving it on the web site).  Then try booting from an Ubuntu CD and 
you should be able to mount his hard drive and copy any data, pictures, 
music etc off the drive.  At least that way his data is backed up.

Then TBH I'd suggest maybe wiping the lot and starting from scratch. 
I've done repair installs of Windows before but they've never really 
worked that well.

Rob

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[ubuntu-uk] Bare Metal virtualization on older Xeon hardware

2010-06-04 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

At work we're looking at server virtualization, both to give us a bit 
more redundancy against hardware failure and also to try and cut down on 
our power requirements a bit by getting shot of some older servers (P3, 
early P4's).

Now we already have two IBM x Series servers which are going on about 4 
years old.  The idea is to maybe replace these with something a bit 
newer and then re-use them for less mission critical uses.

These servers have the old P4 based Xeons in them running at 3GHz. 
According to Intel's web site they don't support Intel-VT technology but 
they are 64-Bit capable (IIRC they support EM64T).  In the past I've 
played around with VMWare Server running on top of Linux (and Windows), 
in fact at home I have it running happy on my server with a couple of 
VM's chugging away.

What I'd like to do though is use some bare metal virtualization.  I 
gather the newer virtualization software such as Microsoft Hyper-V, 
VMWare ESXi and KVM all require Intel-VT technology or AMD-V.  I 
wondered if anyone knew of any bare metal virtualization software that 
supports the older CPUs?

I'm pretty certain an older version of ESXi did although when I last 
tried it a couple of years back it didn't support the hardware I tried 
it on (a bog standard Phenom X4 desktop PC).  I can't for the life of me 
find a download link for the older ESXi software (which I believe VMWare 
were starting to give away).

So before I give up, does anyone know of anything that would be suitable 
which doesn't require Intel-VT or AMD-V?

Ta,

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Daniel Case
Michael, i have a burnt Windows XP Home CD due to the fact that mine
actually snapped

As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i
can post it if you like as i no longer
have a need for it.

An OEM copy of XP will work, its just a case of having the drivers. If
it has a SATA harddrive you may need to include
the correct SATA drivers onto the disk before installation.

Dan

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
 On 04/06/10 19:11, Michael G Fletcher wrote:
 What make is his laptop?

 Rob

 A Dell Inspiron 6000... trying to save his 38GB of music :-(

 I got it to the point where it loads the Welcome screen, but when I
 logon the user, it just automatically logs me out again.  I can get
 into the safe-mode with command prompt, and tried to install SP3, but
 doesn't seem to want to install!

 Michael


 You'll probably find that a standard Windows XP CD won't work (that is,
 an OEM copy of Windows XP).  You'll need a specific Dell version which
 is tied to the Dell BIOS (funnily enough doing it this way any Dell
 Windows XP CD should work).  If you e-mail me off list I might possibly
 be able to help.

 In the mean time, if he hasn't got an external hard drive, I'd suggest
 he gets one (I bought a 1TB Western Digital USB 2 hard drive yesterday
 from PC World for £60 using their collect from store option when
 reserving it on the web site).  Then try booting from an Ubuntu CD and
 you should be able to mount his hard drive and copy any data, pictures,
 music etc off the drive.  At least that way his data is backed up.

 Then TBH I'd suggest maybe wiping the lot and starting from scratch.
 I've done repair installs of Windows before but they've never really
 worked that well.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know, apologies] O2 Joggler - My success and a quick question please!

2010-06-04 Thread Daniel Case
With your original question, it is possible to use the partition which
stores everything.

It is located on:
/dev/mmcblk0p4

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 4 June 2010 17:24, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:47:01 +0100
 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know,   apologies] O2 Joggler - My
       success         and a quick question please!
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID:
       aanlktinizoxqromfxhublxskdo80egdsqvd-unpvw...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 On 4 June 2010 15:42, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 For those of you trying without any luck to get the O2 Joggler running
 Ubuntu, I have had success with a Black HP 4GB USB (from PC World, Leeds
 ?9.99) and by using the image linked below, it works a lot smoother than the
 Netbook Remix image that is floating around, and leaves enough space on the
 disk to upgrade to Lucid (3 and a half hours wait mind - 2 1/2 to go!).


 Good luck with that! I haven't seen anyone run Lucid successfully on
 the Joggler.

 Be prepared to get a black screen, console or nothing when you reboot to
 lucid.

 Cheers,
 Al.

 Cheers Al - Yeah it failed, i got a load of messages like this...

 [134315.948864] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134395.949568] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134495.948082] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 5(5) BSS returned, data-length = 591
 [134615.949559] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134735.949344] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134855.949462] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134975.948163] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443

 Oh well - Time to start again.

 If you look at Dysentry's thread on his UNR version he explains why
 lucid is a problem, a problem with some driver not available yet if I
 remember correctly.  I am using that version successfully (his 1.3a
 with the mods in the first post of his thread).  I do a dump of the
 usb stick occasionally (using dd) so that if an update or whatever
 mucks it up I can restore my previous working version rather than
 going back to the start each time.

 I have not tried the non unr version so I cannot comment on the relative 
 speed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Daniel/all

On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i
 can post it if you like as i no longer
 have a need for it.


Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not
really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of
other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft. Whilst some
people might consider it 'ok' to copy an XP CD the fact is it most
definitely is not 'legal' by any stretch. The contents of the CD is
copyrighted work, and without permission from the copyright owner you
should not be making copies.

I appreciate the predicament that the original poster is in, and
understand how frustrating it is to be in that position, this list is
not the place to discuss / arrange that kind of thing.

I'd appreciate it if these conversations were taken elsewhere.

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Rob Beard
On 04/06/10 19:38, Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi Daniel/all

 On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Casedanielcas...@googlemail.com  wrote:
 As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i
 can post it if you like as i no longer
 have a need for it.


 Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not
 really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of
 other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft.

Fair enough it is really a bit OT, I've sent an e-mail off list.

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know, apologies] O2 Joggler - My success and a quick question please!

2010-06-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 June 2010 19:35, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 With your original question, it is possible to use the partition which
 stores everything.

 It is located on:
 /dev/mmcblk0p4

I is not a good idea to use it as 'swap' space though is it?  I
understood that using flash for swap was not a good idea as it wears
it out by writing to it often.  Flash has a limited life in terms of
write cycles.

Colin


 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 4 June 2010 17:24, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
 Message: 1
 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:47:01 +0100
 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [old topic i know,   apologies] O2 Joggler - My
       success         and a quick question please!
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID:
       aanlktinizoxqromfxhublxskdo80egdsqvd-unpvw...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 On 4 June 2010 15:42, Dave Hanson d.han...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

 For those of you trying without any luck to get the O2 Joggler running
 Ubuntu, I have had success with a Black HP 4GB USB (from PC World, Leeds
 ?9.99) and by using the image linked below, it works a lot smoother than 
 the
 Netbook Remix image that is floating around, and leaves enough space on the
 disk to upgrade to Lucid (3 and a half hours wait mind - 2 1/2 to go!).


 Good luck with that! I haven't seen anyone run Lucid successfully on
 the Joggler.

 Be prepared to get a black screen, console or nothing when you reboot to
 lucid.

 Cheers,
 Al.

 Cheers Al - Yeah it failed, i got a load of messages like this...

 [134315.948864] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134395.949568] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134495.948082] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 5(5) BSS returned, data-length = 591
 [134615.949559] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134735.949344] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134855.949462] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443
 [134975.948163] ===rt_ioctl_giwscan. 4(4) BSS returned, data-length = 443

 Oh well - Time to start again.

 If you look at Dysentry's thread on his UNR version he explains why
 lucid is a problem, a problem with some driver not available yet if I
 remember correctly.  I am using that version successfully (his 1.3a
 with the mods in the first post of his thread).  I do a dump of the
 usb stick occasionally (using dd) so that if an update or whatever
 mucks it up I can restore my previous working version rather than
 going back to the start each time.

 I have not tried the non unr version so I cannot comment on the relative 
 speed.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread e-mail b.drake
Hi Dianne .

On 4 June 2010 11:45, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Great work! What email address did you use? I can only find
 phone/chat/postal contacts for them.


Someone on this list suggested writing to Dell CEO - Michael Dell (
mich...@dell.com) and my email was answered quickly by the guy in the reply
I attached.  I just got so frustrated by the lack of ways to make contact
with Dell UK.

I wonder if an official communication from Ubuntu UK asking to partner with
Dell UK would help? We'll support the OS - you supply the hardware to our
folk kind of approach might work   I'm willing to write something, what
do the folk here think?

Regards, Barry Drake.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Stuart Bird
Rob

In all honesty, you will stand a better chance of saving your friends 38 GiB
of music by using an Ubuntu Live CD (or similar) than you will with a Win XP
disc. Personally I would boot the machine from the live CD and then copy the
data off to a safe media. Then you can re-install Windows once the data is
safe.

It would be safer than letting a Windows CD inadvertently hose the partition
(and the music) for you.

Stu


On 4 June 2010 20:06, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 04/06/10 19:38, Alan Pope wrote:
  Hi Daniel/all
 
  On 4 June 2010 19:33, Daniel Casedanielcas...@googlemail.com  wrote:
  As long as you use the officially licensed product key, it is legal, i
  can post it if you like as i no longer
  have a need for it.
 
 
  Ugh. Remember where you are. This is an Ubuntu list and it's not
  really the done thing for us to be discussing/arranging duplication of
  other peoples copyrighted work - even if it is Microsoft.

 Fair enough it is really a bit OT, I've sent an e-mail off list.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Michael G Fletcher
Hi Everyone

Please accept my apologies, I posted to the list as I reckoned most
were experienced computer users and would probably have an old copy of
windows floating around which they were no longer using seeing as they
were Ubuntu users.

Alan, please note I was not fully aware of the copyright issues and
thought that having an original Registration Code would be enough to
cover this.  I am firm believer against copyright theft, and am now
better educated.

Sorry again for the OT posting and very irrelevant posting!

Have a lovely weekend in the sun
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Daniel Case
Alan,

I was not aware either that it was copyright theft to use another CD
with your original license.

Infact, i thought the following was true:
ttp://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf

According to this, any PC that isn't brand new that you are performing
a reinstall on is classed as a refurbished PC.
From the file: 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf
A new Windows license is not required for a refurbished PC that has:
(1) The original Certificate of Authenticity (COA) for a Windows
operating system affixed to the PC, and
(2) The original recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image
associated with the PC.

Therefore it is legal to install Windows from another disk?

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Michael G Fletcher
mich...@ilovemylinux.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone

 Please accept my apologies, I posted to the list as I reckoned most
 were experienced computer users and would probably have an old copy of
 windows floating around which they were no longer using seeing as they
 were Ubuntu users.

 Alan, please note I was not fully aware of the copyright issues and
 thought that having an original Registration Code would be enough to
 cover this.  I am firm believer against copyright theft, and am now
 better educated.

 Sorry again for the OT posting and very irrelevant posting!

 Have a lovely weekend in the sun
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Alan Pope
On 4 June 2010 22:43, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 (2) The original recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image
 associated with the PC.

How is a burnt Windows XP Home CD (your words) sent via post to
someone either 'original recovery' or 'hard-disk based recovery
image'?

I'm not after an argument, but the fact is every single XP CD I have
ever handled has 'DO NOT COPY' all over it. Besides which it's
offtopic for this list.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Windows XP CD

2010-06-04 Thread Harry Rickards
On 4 June 2010 21:43, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Alan,

 I was not aware either that it was copyright theft to use another CD
 with your original license.

 Infact, i thought the following was true:
 ttp://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf

 According to this, any PC that isn't brand new that you are performing
 a reinstall on is classed as a refurbished PC.
 From the file: 
 http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/A/9/9A90E11E-43A3-4E7E-A919-961AF15820CA/Refurbished%20PC%20License%20Guide.pdf
 A new Windows license is not required for a refurbished PC that has:
 (1) The original Certificate of Authenticity (COA) for a Windows
 operating system affixed to the PC, and
 (2) The original recovery media or hard-disk based recovery image
 associated with the PC.

 Therefore it is legal to install Windows from another disk?

snip

Surely not. *and*(2)  the *original* recovery media or hard-disk
based recovery image associated with the PC.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread Dianne Reuby
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 15:59 -0400, e-mail b.drake wrote:
 I wonder if an official communication from Ubuntu UK asking to partner
 with Dell UK would help? We'll support the OS - you supply the
 hardware to our folk kind of approach might work   I'm willing to
 write something, what do the folk here think?
 
That's what irritated me most - Dell are at perfect liberty to supply
any OS they want to  ... but why does the Ubuntu site still drone on
about their partnership with Dell, with links to the UK site, when
it's no longer correct?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 15:59 -0400, e-mail b.drake wrote:
 Hi Dianne .
 
 On 4 June 2010 11:45, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
 
 Great work! What email address did you use? I can only find
 phone/chat/postal contacts for them.
 
 Someone on this list suggested writing to Dell CEO - Michael Dell
 (mich...@dell.com) and my email was answered quickly by the guy in the
 reply I attached.  I just got so frustrated by the lack of ways to
 make contact with Dell UK.
 
 I wonder if an official communication from Ubuntu UK asking to partner
 with Dell UK would help? We'll support the OS - you supply the
 hardware to our folk kind of approach might work   I'm willing to
 write something, what do the folk here think?

You'd have to define the word support very precisely.

Most large organisation understand support as having a call centre
which can take customer calls 24/7 or at the very least Monday to Friday
during office hours. Canonical can do that and I suspect already have
that sort of talks with some hardware vendors (although maybe not Dell
UK). A loose combination of individuals like the Ubuntu UK Loco team
cannot do it this way.

What could work is if the community was a second or third level support.
This would mean that Dell would need to invest in some Linux/Ubuntu
knowledge for their customer service so that they can act as first level
support.

Another option that could work would be for Dell to sell the hardware
with Ubuntu pre-installed, include the Ubuntu manual [1] and add as an
optional extra some Canonical support [2]. This would probably require
an agreement between Dell and Canonical so that when a Ubuntu user calls
the Dell support number, the support staff can redirect them to
Canonical.

On the other hand, Dell could very well sell their hardware with Ubuntu
on it but say that they will only support the hardware, not the software
and direct users to Canonical or Ubuntu UK for this. The risk here is
that for issues for which it's not clear whether the issue is with the
hardware or the software, you'd have users left in the lurch.

So yes, lots of possibilities I think but it would require some goodwill
on all sides. At the end of the day, what is important is that support
works for the end user, whoever actually provides it.

[1] http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[2] http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=528

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on Dell (revisited) ....

2010-06-04 Thread Bruno Girin
On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 22:19 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-06-04 at 22:14 +0100, Bruno Girin wrote:
  On the other hand, Dell could very well sell their hardware with
  Ubuntu
  on it but say that they will only support the hardware, not the
  software 
 
 My son's friend bought a Dell with Win 7 recently - now everything he
 tries to run crashes; browser, word processor, solitaire. Dell have told
 him it's a software problem, so they can't help. :)

That's always the risk in this case: the hardware vendor goes it's a
software problem, nothing we can do about it then the software vendor
goes it's a hardware problem, contact the hardware vendor, etc.

I've been through this so many times when dealing with several suppliers
that have to work together in providing a solution, it's frightening.
The only way I've found to break the cycle is for one of the sides to
help the user identify the issue and gather evidence. In practice, maybe
it's an opportunity for the Ubuntu community to offer better support
than what's available for Windows by helping users getting to the bottom
of their problems rather than say it's a hardware problem.

And maybe it's an opportunity to migrate your son's friend's Dell to
Ubuntu ;-)

Bruno



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bare Metal virtualization on older Xeon hardware

2010-06-04 Thread Kris Douglas
On 4 June 2010 19:28, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
 Hi folks,

 At work we're looking at server virtualization, both to give us a bit
 more redundancy against hardware failure and also to try and cut down on
 our power requirements a bit by getting shot of some older servers (P3,
 early P4's).

 Now we already have two IBM x Series servers which are going on about 4
 years old.  The idea is to maybe replace these with something a bit
 newer and then re-use them for less mission critical uses.

 These servers have the old P4 based Xeons in them running at 3GHz.
 According to Intel's web site they don't support Intel-VT technology but
 they are 64-Bit capable (IIRC they support EM64T).  In the past I've
 played around with VMWare Server running on top of Linux (and Windows),
 in fact at home I have it running happy on my server with a couple of
 VM's chugging away.

 What I'd like to do though is use some bare metal virtualization.  I
 gather the newer virtualization software such as Microsoft Hyper-V,
 VMWare ESXi and KVM all require Intel-VT technology or AMD-V.  I
 wondered if anyone knew of any bare metal virtualization software that
 supports the older CPUs?

 I'm pretty certain an older version of ESXi did although when I last
 tried it a couple of years back it didn't support the hardware I tried
 it on (a bog standard Phenom X4 desktop PC).  I can't for the life of me
 find a download link for the older ESXi software (which I believe VMWare
 were starting to give away).

 So before I give up, does anyone know of anything that would be suitable
 which doesn't require Intel-VT or AMD-V?


Hello there, we have also just switched to virtualization, and we are
using Citrix XenServer, it's free. We were running on a Dell PowerEdge
750, which uses an old 2.4 dualcore Xeon chip. I would have a look at
that, it is really quite fantastic, and I think it runs on any chip,
but for Windows, you need the hardware virtualization. I know
Virtualbox will run anything on anything, so that's also worth a try.

Feel free to give me a bell for any info.

HTH,
Kris Douglas,

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[ubuntu-uk] Graphics cards..

2010-06-04 Thread Daniel Case
Hi there,
I currently have an Xpress 200 ATI integrated graphics card and am
looking to upgrade to something better (i dual-boot so that i can play
Windows games under Windows)

What graphics cards would you recommend for both Windows gaming, and
full linux support so that i can use compiz without issues?

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