Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meetup.com

[Gareth France]

On 01/08/16 21:49, William Anderson wrote:

Has there ever been a meeting?  It doesn't look like it.  Have you
considered going to a LUG meeting instead?  You may not find a
laser-focus on Ubuntu, but I guarantee at any LUG meet, at least one
other person is using it.
Not to my knowledge, no. Yes I have been to the local LUG and as nice as 
it is, it's just an excuse to have a drink and a meal out. It would be 
nice to attend a more focused meet. I don't think my local LUG has ever 
been particularly Linux focused, the last meet seemed to mainly focus 
around Theresa May!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meetup.com

[Paul Waring]

On 01/08/16 21:49, William Anderson wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gareth France
>  wrote:
>> I am a member of meetup.com and of the Ubuntu meetup group on there. I think
>> it's a fantastic idea as I'm not personally aware of any regularly meeting
>> enthusiast group for Ubuntu in the UK.
>>
>> However it doesn't currently have a group owner and will be deleted in 7
>> days if nobody claims it. I'd love to but for groups with more than 50
>> members there is a $14.99+ fee per month to pay and I simply can't afford
>> the extra expense.
> 
> Has there ever been a meeting?  It doesn't look like it.  Have you
> considered going to a LUG meeting instead?  You may not find a
> laser-focus on Ubuntu, but I guarantee at any LUG meet, at least one
> other person is using it.

Raspberry Pi Jams also have a large overlap with LUGs, and many cities
have a monthly Jam now.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Meetup.com

[William Anderson]

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Gareth France
 wrote:
> I am a member of meetup.com and of the Ubuntu meetup group on there. I think
> it's a fantastic idea as I'm not personally aware of any regularly meeting
> enthusiast group for Ubuntu in the UK.
>
> However it doesn't currently have a group owner and will be deleted in 7
> days if nobody claims it. I'd love to but for groups with more than 50
> members there is a $14.99+ fee per month to pay and I simply can't afford
> the extra expense.

Has there ever been a meeting?  It doesn't look like it.  Have you
considered going to a LUG meeting instead?  You may not find a
laser-focus on Ubuntu, but I guarantee at any LUG meet, at least one
other person is using it.

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[ubuntu-uk] Meetup.com

[Gareth France]

I am a member of meetup.com and of the Ubuntu meetup group on there. I 
think it's a fantastic idea as I'm not personally aware of any regularly 
meeting enthusiast group for Ubuntu in the UK.


However it doesn't currently have a group owner and will be deleted in 7 
days if nobody claims it. I'd love to but for groups with more than 50 
members there is a $14.99+ fee per month to pay and I simply can't 
afford the extra expense.


I would welcome suggestions from anyone as to how this could be made to 
work without costing me money or would anyone else be willing to step up 
to the plate?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 Still struggling

[Michael]

On 01/08/2016 15:11, Michael wrote:



On 01/08/2016 15:47, Tony Pursell wrote:


On 1 August 2016 at 14:10, Michael 
> wrote:




On 01/08/2016 11:34, Michael wrote:



On 01/08/2016 10:11, Alan Pope wrote:

Hi,

On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael
 wrote:

The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files
when it stopped, a restart
just defaults to login and login to the terminal
command prompt. The help
option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one
of the options will
help.

If it barfed part way through, then it may be possible to
encourage it
to finish the job.

At the command line terminal window, login using your
username/password. Then once you get logged in, issue
this command:-

sudo dpkg --configure -a

(that's sudo space dpkg space dash dash configure space
dash lower-case-a).

It should start chugging away continuing the upgrade. If
it just ends
immediately with no output then the upgrade may have
finished, but
something is missing. In that event, assuming you use
Ubuntu (with
Unity) desktop I would issue:-

sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^

(sudo space apt space install space ubuntu dash desktop
caret) (the
caret is important).

If that does indeed install more stuff then that may be
sufficient to
have 'fixed' it.

If the first command (the dpkg one) *did* produce a chunk
of output -
like telling you it's installing / upgrading packages,
then it may not
be necessary to run the second command.

If you have run the above process, then I'd restart "sudo
reboot"
(sudo space reboot), and see if it is fixed.

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Al.

Some progress, used both patches, now get a 14.04 screen but
without folders so am not sure just where it is now.
message box, "System program problem detected"   "Do you want
to report the problem now"  (I did )

Any more suggestions anybody, please, I get grub, not the normal
command line so cant force an update ?
Michael.D

I did a successful 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade yesterday.  if, when you 
get to the GRUB menu, you choose 'Advanced options for Ubuntu', you 
can see which kernels you have installed. You will have 4.4, 3.13 and 
3.11 if all has gone well. Have you got 4.4.0-31?


Tony

One thing I did not say, the Ubuntu page shows 14.04 and nothing else 
except the backdrop, I have never used grub (knowingly) so was 
worried about causing more problems..will try your suggestion 
and report back.

Tks, Michael



Only kerrnel I can find is 311, looks like I might have disturbed a 
long pause, messing up everything. I'm expecting a 14.04, DVD Rom in 
the next day or two, can try to repair what I have already.Will keep 
the thread open, closing when resolved.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News and Weather web apps

[Alan Pope]

On 1 August 2016 at 16:54, Tony Pursell  wrote:
> So its OK if the BBC provide an app through the Google App Store, but not if
> we create one for them.  Did we invite them to create one for us?  Will they
> object to the BBC scope?
>

You'd have to ask the trademark owner, in each case.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News and Weather web apps

[Tony Pursell]

On 1 August 2016 at 16:34, Alan Pope  wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> On 1 August 2016 at 14:26, Tony Pursell 
> wrote:
> > Does anyone know why the BBC News and Weather web apps, and the Logviewer
> > app, disappeared off my Ubuntu phone when I updated to OTA 12?  They are
> not
> > in the Ubuntu Store either.
> >
>
> They were removed by request of the trademark holder.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.


So its OK if the BBC provide an app through the Google App Store, but not
if we create one for them.  Did we invite them to create one for us?  Will
they object to the BBC scope?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] BBC News and Weather web apps

[Alan Pope]

Hi Tony,

On 1 August 2016 at 14:26, Tony Pursell  wrote:
> Does anyone know why the BBC News and Weather web apps, and the Logviewer
> app, disappeared off my Ubuntu phone when I updated to OTA 12?  They are not
> in the Ubuntu Store either.
>

They were removed by request of the trademark holder.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 Still struggling

[Michael]

On 01/08/2016 15:47, Tony Pursell wrote:


On 1 August 2016 at 14:10, Michael > wrote:




On 01/08/2016 11:34, Michael wrote:



On 01/08/2016 10:11, Alan Pope wrote:

Hi,

On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael
> wrote:

The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when
it stopped, a restart
just defaults to login and login to the terminal
command prompt. The help
option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of
the options will
help.

If it barfed part way through, then it may be possible to
encourage it
to finish the job.

At the command line terminal window, login using your
username/password. Then once you get logged in, issue this
command:-

sudo dpkg --configure -a

(that's sudo space dpkg space dash dash configure space
dash lower-case-a).

It should start chugging away continuing the upgrade. If
it just ends
immediately with no output then the upgrade may have
finished, but
something is missing. In that event, assuming you use
Ubuntu (with
Unity) desktop I would issue:-

sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^

(sudo space apt space install space ubuntu dash desktop
caret) (the
caret is important).

If that does indeed install more stuff then that may be
sufficient to
have 'fixed' it.

If the first command (the dpkg one) *did* produce a chunk
of output -
like telling you it's installing / upgrading packages,
then it may not
be necessary to run the second command.

If you have run the above process, then I'd restart "sudo
reboot"
(sudo space reboot), and see if it is fixed.

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Al.

Some progress, used both patches, now get a 14.04 screen but
without folders so am not sure just where it is now.
message box, "System program problem detected"   "Do you want
to report the problem now"  (I did )

Any more suggestions anybody, please, I get grub, not the normal
command line so cant force an update ?
Michael.D

I did a successful 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade yesterday.  if, when you get 
to the GRUB menu, you choose 'Advanced options for Ubuntu', you can 
see which kernels you have installed. You will have 4.4, 3.13 and 3.11 
if all has gone well. Have you got 4.4.0-31?


Tony

One thing I did not say, the Ubuntu page shows 14.04 and nothing else 
except the backdrop, I have never used grub (knowingly) so was worried 
about causing more problems..will try your suggestion and 
report back.

Tks, Michael


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 Still struggling

[Tony Pursell]

On 1 August 2016 at 14:10, Michael 
wrote:

>
>
> On 01/08/2016 11:34, Michael wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 01/08/2016 10:11, Alan Pope wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when it stopped, a
 restart
 just defaults to login and login to the terminal command prompt. The
 help
 option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of the options will
 help.

 If it barfed part way through, then it may be possible to encourage it
>>> to finish the job.
>>>
>>> At the command line terminal window, login using your
>>> username/password. Then once you get logged in, issue this command:-
>>>
>>> sudo dpkg --configure -a
>>>
>>> (that's sudo space dpkg space dash dash configure space dash
>>> lower-case-a).
>>>
>>> It should start chugging away continuing the upgrade. If it just ends
>>> immediately with no output then the upgrade may have finished, but
>>> something is missing. In that event, assuming you use Ubuntu (with
>>> Unity) desktop I would issue:-
>>>
>>> sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^
>>>
>>> (sudo space apt space install space ubuntu dash desktop caret) (the
>>> caret is important).
>>>
>>> If that does indeed install more stuff then that may be sufficient to
>>> have 'fixed' it.
>>>
>>> If the first command (the dpkg one) *did* produce a chunk of output -
>>> like telling you it's installing / upgrading packages, then it may not
>>> be necessary to run the second command.
>>>
>>> If you have run the above process, then I'd restart "sudo reboot"
>>> (sudo space reboot), and see if it is fixed.
>>>
>>> Let us know how you get on.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Al.
>>>
>> Some progress, used both patches, now get a 14.04 screen but without
>> folders so am not sure just where it is now.
>> message box, "System program problem detected"   "Do you want to report
>> the problem now"  (I did )
>>
>> Any more suggestions anybody, please, I get grub, not the normal command
> line so cant force an update ?
> Michael.D
>
I did a successful 14.04 to 16.04 upgrade yesterday.  if, when you get to
the GRUB menu, you choose 'Advanced options for Ubuntu', you can see which
kernels you have installed. You will have 4.4, 3.13 and 3.11 if all has
gone well. Have you got 4.4.0-31?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 Still struggling

[Michael]

On 01/08/2016 11:34, Michael wrote:



On 01/08/2016 10:11, Alan Pope wrote:

Hi,

On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael 
 wrote:
The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when it stopped, a 
restart
just defaults to login and login to the terminal command prompt. The 
help

option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of the options will
help.


If it barfed part way through, then it may be possible to encourage it
to finish the job.

At the command line terminal window, login using your
username/password. Then once you get logged in, issue this command:-

sudo dpkg --configure -a

(that's sudo space dpkg space dash dash configure space dash 
lower-case-a).


It should start chugging away continuing the upgrade. If it just ends
immediately with no output then the upgrade may have finished, but
something is missing. In that event, assuming you use Ubuntu (with
Unity) desktop I would issue:-

sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^

(sudo space apt space install space ubuntu dash desktop caret) (the
caret is important).

If that does indeed install more stuff then that may be sufficient to
have 'fixed' it.

If the first command (the dpkg one) *did* produce a chunk of output -
like telling you it's installing / upgrading packages, then it may not
be necessary to run the second command.

If you have run the above process, then I'd restart "sudo reboot"
(sudo space reboot), and see if it is fixed.

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Al.
Some progress, used both patches, now get a 14.04 screen but without 
folders so am not sure just where it is now.
message box, "System program problem detected"   "Do you want to 
report the problem now"  (I did )


Any more suggestions anybody, please, I get grub, not the normal command 
line so cant force an update ?

Michael.D

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[ubuntu-uk] BBC News and Weather web apps

[Tony Pursell]

Hi

Does anyone know why the BBC News and Weather web apps, and the Logviewer
app, disappeared off my Ubuntu phone when I updated to OTA 12?  They are
not in the Ubuntu Store either.

I have had to make my own BBC News web app.

I know there is a BBC scope but I don't find it as easy to use as the web
app was.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04

[Michael]

On 01/08/2016 10:11, Alan Pope wrote:

Hi,

On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael  wrote:

The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when it stopped, a restart
just defaults to login and login to the terminal command prompt. The help
option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of the options will
help.


If it barfed part way through, then it may be possible to encourage it
to finish the job.

At the command line terminal window, login using your
username/password. Then once you get logged in, issue this command:-

sudo dpkg --configure -a

(that's sudo space dpkg space dash dash configure space dash lower-case-a).

It should start chugging away continuing the upgrade. If it just ends
immediately with no output then the upgrade may have finished, but
something is missing. In that event, assuming you use Ubuntu (with
Unity) desktop I would issue:-

sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^

(sudo space apt space install space ubuntu dash desktop caret) (the
caret is important).

If that does indeed install more stuff then that may be sufficient to
have 'fixed' it.

If the first command (the dpkg one) *did* produce a chunk of output -
like telling you it's installing / upgrading packages, then it may not
be necessary to run the second command.

If you have run the above process, then I'd restart "sudo reboot"
(sudo space reboot), and see if it is fixed.

Let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Al.
Some progress, used both patches, now get a 14.04 screen but without 
folders so am not sure just where it is now.
message box, "System program problem detected"   "Do you want to report 
the problem now"  (I did )



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04

[Barry Titterton]

On 01/08/16 10:00, Michael wrote:
> Alan, Barry, or anybody who can help with an upgrade problem. I f the
> helper need to take over my computer to resolve, I'm happy with that.
> 
> The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when it stopped, a
> restart just defaults to login and login to the terminal command prompt.
> The help option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of the
> options will help.
> 
> 64bit dual boot with MS Windows 7. I do have a 14.10 32bit disc if that
> might help but am worried about loosing things.
> 
> Any offers of help appreciated. Tks, Michael
> 
> 
> 
Hi Michael,

How long did you leave it in the stalled condition?
What did the terminal say it was doing at the time?

The reason that I ask is that I did an LTS to LTS update (64 bit) last
Friday and it stalled for a very long time while installing one of the
language packages. I left it alone and it eventually came back to life
and completed.
The installation part of the upgrade seemed to take much longer than
previous upgrades. Since the upgrade the machine has been much slower to
shut down, but this is a known bug to do with systemd and networked
printers. Just waiting for the fix to work its way through the update
system.

Cheers,

Barry T
(Yes, I know I'm not the Barry you intended)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04

[Dan Wood]

At the terminal prompt, you could try:

sudo dpkg --configure -a

which should hopefully kick off the remaining updates. If that
completes OK, follow it with

sudo apt update
sudo apt dist-upgrade

and hopefully you'll be in a better state.

Cheers,
Dan.


On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael  wrote:
> Alan, Barry, or anybody who can help with an upgrade problem. I f the helper
> need to take over my computer to resolve, I'm happy with that.
>
> The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when it stopped, a restart
> just defaults to login and login to the terminal command prompt. The help
> option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of the options will
> help.
>
> 64bit dual boot with MS Windows 7. I do have a 14.10 32bit disc if that
> might help but am worried about loosing things.
>
> Any offers of help appreciated. Tks, Michael
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Messed up upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04

[Simon Greenwood]

On 1 August 2016 at 10:00, Michael 
wrote:

> Alan, Barry, or anybody who can help with an upgrade problem. I f the
> helper need to take over my computer to resolve, I'm happy with that.
>
> The update14.04-16-04,  was writing updated files when it stopped, a
> restart just defaults to login and login to the terminal command prompt.
> The help option delivers a screen full, I do not know if one of the options
> will help.
>
> 64bit dual boot with MS Windows 7. I do have a 14.10 32bit disc if that
> might help but am worried about loosing things.
>
> Any offers of help appreciated. Tks, Michael
>
> ​
You could boot from the DVD and take a backup of files by mounting the disk
partition and copying to a USB key or external device, and then reinstall.
You could even download a 16.04.1 ISO using Windows if you wanted.
That's probably
the easiest route to take.

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