Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
A Ubuntu Hour on Friday it is. perhaps start at lunch time and go into the late afternoon or however long people can stay depending on when their lunch is. If this is on friday and people are coming from work it should be in a central location with free wifi. is pleasant grove suited to handle that ? or would more like off say Douglas have more business or downtown? On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Mike Pontillo ponti...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com wrote: I recommend planning events to have easy access and to be during restaurants' off hours (adjacent to busy times is okay) to limit the negative impact on the restaurant. But I suggest that anyone who wants to try it should consider the special concerns that will need to be planned around to improve the chances of a successful event. Good points Nathan, Perhaps an Ubuntu After Lunch Hour. ;-) It could be longer than an hour, with some overlap so people who want to get lunch can. In that case I'd vote for a Friday since typically people might try to leave work on a Friday early anyway. Longer lunches might be less of a concern. Mike -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 13:11 -0700, Philip Ballew wrote: A Ubuntu Hour on Friday it is. perhaps start at lunch time and go into the late afternoon or however long people can stay depending on when their lunch is. If this is on friday and people are coming from work it should be in a central location with free wifi. is pleasant grove suited to handle that ? or would more like off say Douglas have more business or downtown? This would mean anyone coming from Sac would need to weather the rush hour traffic. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
When I'm coming from Sacramento I often go this way to beat the traffic: http://goo.gl/K9odO Anyway, this would work for me. Can't please everyone I guess, especially in a town as spread out as Sacramento. =( I know I would be saying the exact same thing as Daniel if a central Sacramento location were proposed. The Douglas location is fairly central, but it is relatively small and crowded. What I like about the Pleasant Grove location is that it has a large outdoor area off to the side, which would be good if the weather is nice. It's also close to the Hewlett-Packard campus, which means I might be able to convince some of the Ubuntu and UNIX loving people who I know over there to join in. ;-) Mike On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Daniel Gimpelevich dan...@gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us wrote: On Sun, 2011-05-29 at 13:11 -0700, Philip Ballew wrote: A Ubuntu Hour on Friday it is. perhaps start at lunch time and go into the late afternoon or however long people can stay depending on when their lunch is. If this is on friday and people are coming from work it should be in a central location with free wifi. is pleasant grove suited to handle that ? or would more like off say Douglas have more business or downtown? This would mean anyone coming from Sac would need to weather the rush hour traffic. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
[Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
I will be hosting a Roseville Ubuntu Hour for people to come and chat about Ubuntu or any other topic their heart desires. I have locations in mine, however if people can think of good locations they would like to have the hour held at. Reply with where you see as a good location or even time such as moving it deeper into Sacramento, or the evening is better then the morning. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
I could probably do one at lunch hour Monday, Wednesday, or Friday. Panera on Pleasant Grove? (Panera seems to be a popular spot for these.) Where else is good? Mike On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Philip Ballew philipbal...@gmail.comwrote: I will be hosting a Roseville Ubuntu Hour for people to come and chat about Ubuntu or any other topic their heart desires. I have locations in mine, however if people can think of good locations they would like to have the hour held at. Reply with where you see as a good location or even time such as moving it deeper into Sacramento, or the evening is better then the morning. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
I _may_ be available at lunch tomorrow, but Roseville is a bit far; deeper into Sacramento would be much preferred. On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:56 -0700, Mike Pontillo wrote: I could probably do one at lunch hour Monday, Wednesday, or Friday. Panera on Pleasant Grove? (Panera seems to be a popular spot for these.) Where else is good? Mike On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Philip Ballew philipbal...@gmail.com wrote: I will be hosting a Roseville Ubuntu Hour for people to come and chat about Ubuntu or any other topic their heart desires. I have locations in mine, however if people can think of good locations they would like to have the hour held at. Reply with where you see as a good location or even time such as moving it deeper into Sacramento, or the evening is better then the morning. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
Who is the target audience? For me personally it's easier to take a lunch hour [or perhaps take a longer lunch] for something like this than to do it in the evening. The constant battle of work time vs. family time, you know. And I have to get lunch while I'm at work anyway. ;-) Mike On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:56 -0700, Mike Pontillo wrote: I could probably do one at lunch hour Monday, Wednesday, or Friday. Lunchtime meetings would probably effectively limit the participants to those within two miles of the meeting place, and would limit the meeting itself to no longer than 40 minutes, but that's not counting time to order and receive food. I'm not saying lunchtime gatherings are a bad idea, but I'm not certain it's a good fit for the typical Ubuntu Hour target case. Regards, Nathan -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
It sure doesnt hurt to experiment with different times and see what works. If more than one sole person shows up, Id say its a success! And many times there will be far more people at a place to eat during lunch time then say 6pm when everyone is out driving. Ive been to Subway, Starbucks, etc at 6pm and they can be empty. Also, when talking about target audience... are we talking about people we can gather together with an interest in Ubuntu or are we also trying to be seen and reach out to people if they ask about Ubuntu? In my thought, theres no point meeting up if the place is going to be empty. You could just have a conversation online. Ive always been under the impression that an Ubuntu Hour is to sorta be noticed to anyone who might show interest leading in to a conversation. / Dave On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Mike Pontillo ponti...@gmail.com wrote: Who is the target audience? For me personally it's easier to take a lunch hour [or perhaps take a longer lunch] for something like this than to do it in the evening. The constant battle of work time vs. family time, you know. And I have to get lunch while I'm at work anyway. ;-) Mike On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:56 -0700, Mike Pontillo wrote: I could probably do one at lunch hour Monday, Wednesday, or Friday. Lunchtime meetings would probably effectively limit the participants to those within two miles of the meeting place, and would limit the meeting itself to no longer than 40 minutes, but that's not counting time to order and receive food. I'm not saying lunchtime gatherings are a bad idea, but I'm not certain it's a good fit for the typical Ubuntu Hour target case. Regards, Nathan -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Sent from Ubuntu OS (ubuntu.com) -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 15:33 -0700, Mr. Andrzejak wrote: In my thought, theres no point meeting up if the place is going to be empty. You could just have a conversation online. Ive always been under the impression that an Ubuntu Hour is to sorta be noticed to anyone who might show interest leading in to a conversation. There's no point in meeting up if the place is packed and you don't have time to effectively introduce yourself and Ubuntu either. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done. I'm just saying it's probably not a great idea and bringing up some major restrictions that a lunch hour meeting time can bring. -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
Nathan, Have you ever done an Ubuntu Hour at noon or other crowded time? Has anyone else? Id say experiment and see where it goes. I think Mike is on the money saying its hard to get people together after hours... especially those with significant others, or with kids, or have a long drive home. With other computer related companies in the area up there, a lunch meeting might just work, whereas where I am... it might be an utter fail. Maybe weekly crowded lunch meetings could be more effective than a monthly meeting at a location where no one is around. I really have no idea. My experience is just with the Ubuntu Hour in Pasadena. I think its brilliant though to try different Ubuntu Hours and not hold it to a strict set pattern. Leading into this... do we have an Ubuntu Hour mailing list or forum or IRC where ideas can be bounced off of? Maybe we can talk about patterns that work and find out what doesnt work too. Dave On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 15:33 -0700, Mr. Andrzejak wrote: In my thought, theres no point meeting up if the place is going to be empty. You could just have a conversation online. Ive always been under the impression that an Ubuntu Hour is to sorta be noticed to anyone who might show interest leading in to a conversation. There's no point in meeting up if the place is packed and you don't have time to effectively introduce yourself and Ubuntu either. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done. I'm just saying it's probably not a great idea and bringing up some major restrictions that a lunch hour meeting time can bring. -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Sent from Ubuntu OS (ubuntu.com) -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
i like the idea of an ubuntu lunch hour, or even a more casual flexible meet up time, like alternating between evening and lunch, perhaps? maybe synchronizing on twitter is a viable option. Ubuntu hour - coffee shop - Rhetorical question: anyone else hear that coffee may reduce the risk of prostate cancer in men? On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Mr. Andrzejak mrandrze...@gmail.comwrote: Nathan, Have you ever done an Ubuntu Hour at noon or other crowded time? Has anyone else? Id say experiment and see where it goes. I think Mike is on the money saying its hard to get people together after hours... especially those with significant others, or with kids, or have a long drive home. With other computer related companies in the area up there, a lunch meeting might just work, whereas where I am... it might be an utter fail. Maybe weekly crowded lunch meetings could be more effective than a monthly meeting at a location where no one is around. I really have no idea. My experience is just with the Ubuntu Hour in Pasadena. I think its brilliant though to try different Ubuntu Hours and not hold it to a strict set pattern. Leading into this... do we have an Ubuntu Hour mailing list or forum or IRC where ideas can be bounced off of? Maybe we can talk about patterns that work and find out what doesnt work too. Dave On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 15:33 -0700, Mr. Andrzejak wrote: In my thought, theres no point meeting up if the place is going to be empty. You could just have a conversation online. Ive always been under the impression that an Ubuntu Hour is to sorta be noticed to anyone who might show interest leading in to a conversation. There's no point in meeting up if the place is packed and you don't have time to effectively introduce yourself and Ubuntu either. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done. I'm just saying it's probably not a great idea and bringing up some major restrictions that a lunch hour meeting time can bring. -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Sent from Ubuntu OS (ubuntu.com) -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- with metta, kevin http://fictionalphilosophy.org -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 16:13 -0700, Mr. Andrzejak wrote: I really have no idea. That's great. I, on the other hand, do have several years of event planning experience. I raised some concerns because with careful planning and some real serious, hard thinking about whether or not running an Ubuntu Hour style event during a weekday lunchtime is feasible, these obstacles can be mitigated. (I'm skeptical that it's really feasible, but objective planning is the first step.) If, however, someone wants to plan an event like this and then pretend that these problems don't exist, I can guarantee that event will be a dismal failure. This is what happens when you plan an event at a restaurant during lunch during the work week. 1. You limit your visitors to the immediate area, eliminating a source of interested, knowledgeable Ubuntu users as well as curious new users who are further out than 5 miles. 2. Of the few people within about 5 miles or so, you eliminate anyone who does not like or cannot eat the food at that establishment for personal, medical, or religious reasons. 3. Your hour of time is really limited to 30 or 40 minutes, part of which will be taken up by visitors needing to order and receive food, plus clean up time. 4. The restaurant will be filled with busy people who are rushing to get back to work, and anywhere that is normally crowded can have limited seating. There won't be a lot of room for laptops or demonstrations and the rush to finish a meal mixed with laptops can cause food accidents. 5. If you wanted to coordinate with the restaurant, you can't make a reservation because you don't know how many to expect anyway. I recommend planning events to have easy access and to be during restaurants' off hours (adjacent to busy times is okay) to limit the negative impact on the restaurant. But I suggest that anyone who wants to try it should consider the special concerns that will need to be planned around to improve the chances of a successful event. -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
its what the people coming want in a lot of ways. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Mr. Andrzejak mrandrze...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com wrote: I, on the other hand, do have several years of event planning experience. Several years? Sometimes you can get locked into a rationale or mindset of ingrained thoughts and patterns that could actually stifle growth. Maybe you have become the box others are trying to thing outside of now? All I am saying is to keep an open mind. If someone wants to hold an Ubuntu Hour at 1am Saturday nights at an East Indian restaurant with mellow sitar music in the background knowing full well google employees rock out there or know people like to converse there... hey, who am I to say otherwise? (that might not be a bad idea) -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
Re: [Ubuntu-US-CA] Roseville Ubuntu Hour
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Philip Ballew philipbal...@gmail.comwrote: its what the people coming want in a lot of ways. This sounds like the best way to go about it. Find out what everyone wants and go for it. This is an Ubuntu Hour... you dont really have to do research and plan it out too much. If it was a bugfest, install fest, release party, etc... it makes perfect sense to follow some of Nathans great ideas for holding a bigger event. If you have the free time, you might even experiment with a lunch Ubuntu Hour and an early evening Ubuntu Hour at the same place (even the same day) and see what happens. -- Ubuntu-us-ca mailing list Ubuntu-us-ca@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-ca
