Re: [UC] Fwd: Awareness of Community Listserve(s)

2010-06-27 Thread Frank Carroll
Thanks for reminding me to upload that storm video to YouTube! I have been away 
from my computer for a few days. Here's the link if anyone's still interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQZcbesIajY

Frank

On Jun 27, 2010, at 04:29 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
 In a message dated 6/27/2010 15:36:15 Eastern Daylight Time, 
 philly.jo...@gmail.com writes:
 I was surprised by the number of people that I mention the Listserve(s) to,  
 (UClist and UCneighbors),   and get a blank response.
 _
  
 Yeah, the list has pretty much fell into disuse.
  
 Bender does a show and there is no review. Not even a he sucks, or he was 
 his usual brilliant self nothing further to report here, move on,
  
 The Storm From Hell passes through the Hood and the resident devil err 
 Republican's Wolf Manner is unscathed while carnage can be surveilled 
 everywhere from his front porch.
  
 Email about UC is so passe? Recently, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg said, 
 Email is probably going away, Perhaps, she was suggesting people are more 
 comfortable seeing info directed at them in their Facebook News Feed, rather 
 than in their email inboxes. Of course Frank's storm post referred us to 
 Facebook for storm footage.
  
 Personally, I blame it all on Glenn and the Barking Cheese Boyz. Glenn can't 
 find anything not to fight over, no matter how sublime. Hey Glenn, in a 
 meeting with the City Controller last week, he told me 80% of the issued 
 trash citations are dismissed by the Board of Adjudication when there is a 
 hearing. Apparently, you're the only person who can't get a break; says a lot 
 for the practice of diplomacy, the use of facts, and leaving your hubris at 
 home.
  
 As for the Boyz, when you start every meetup at a bar instead of the gym, you 
 lose your warrior spirit. There is still a place in civil society for hanging 
 someone like Glenn upside down from Little Nell's little finger while the 
 Ambassadors are preoccupied scoping the babes at the Green Line or eating 
 across the street.
  
 Gentrification has certainly helped us reap the whirlwind .
  
 Ciao,
  
 Craig



Re: [UC] Storm

2010-06-24 Thread Frank Carroll
Thanks! I'm home, air-conditioned and fed.

Frank

On Jun 24, 2010, at 10:38 PM, Kimm Tynan wrote:

 It was around 9 pm.
 
 
 On 6/24/10 7:38 PM, Frank fcarr...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 For those of you on Facebook, here's a short video of the storm
 
 http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1416126087605ref=mf
 
 
 and some iPhone pictures of Clark park:
 
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2052635id=1366173559
 
 
 and someone else's pictures of the park:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/kwbridge/sets/72157624225943087/
 
 
 My power was out when I left the house at 4:30. I live at 49th  Florence. 
 Does anyone know if the power has been restored in that area?
 
 Frank
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Re: [UC] Deaths affecting out Neighborhood and Life-affirming responses

2010-06-03 Thread Frank Carroll
There is a ridiculous argument happening on the NLNA boards about whether this 
happened in NL or Kensington because the body was found ½ block north of Girard 
Ave. People seem to think it makes a difference. It reminds me of many UC/West 
Philly discussions here. Your message is a welcome antidote.

Frank

On Jun 3, 2010, at 02:11 PM, campio...@juno.com wrote:

 
 Sabina Rose O'Donnell was murdered, in Northern Liberties in the very early 
 hours of Wednesday morning.  She was only 21.  
 According to news reports, she had a happy evening, of work, bar-hopping and 
 visiting a friend, before heading home at Midnight.  
 
 I remember her as a beautiful little girl, not a perfect age match to my kids 
 (now 19 and 23) but close enough in age and geography (she lived on 44th 
 Street) so that Birthdays, visits to Clark Park and swimming at the UC Swim 
 Club could be shared activities.  
 I don't know how best to break the news to my kids.  
 Sabina left West Philly when her parents moved away, and so there is some 
 distance, but finding an explanation for this brutal slaying seems almost 
 impossible.  When I first saw the news, it said she had just come from 
 California so I was hoping it was not our beautiful, much loved neighborhood 
 kid.  I contacted a friend who might still know her parents, for reassurance, 
 but the response was, 
 Yes, Liz, it is. ... Sabina was a dear girl ..., and much loved. I don't 
 know how to help, myself. I mean what can anyone really do? I have, of 
 course, reached out to her family.
 
 I post this as others may know or remember Sabina and/ or her family.
 I would welcome a private reminder of happy memories.
 I hope many will pray for the repose of her soul and that her family will be 
 blessed with the grace and strength needed to survive this horror.
 I also hope that we reach out to the neighborhood children, now young adults, 
 who knew Sabina, and let them know that they are loved.
 It is not fair that Sabina could not travel 4 blocks, safely, but is is fact. 
  
 We need our children to live caution and sense.
 Joy and caution are not mutually exclusive.
 
 
 Separate notes:
 
 I attended a Memorial Mass for Anita Brothers this week.
 Anita lived to be 84, attended daily Mass at St. Francis de Sales, including 
 on the day she died.
 She died peacefully in her sleep.
 In the receiving line, before the Mass, Mr. Brothers mentioned that he and 
 Mrs. Brothers considered my mother saintly and had said a prayer for my 
 mother every day, since her death in 1981.  As good Catholics they may have 
 placed some special recognition on the fact that my mother had 12 children 
 and remained a faithful wife and stalwart mother until death took her.  
 I was and remain deeply touched by his comment and evidence of their devotion.
 Now that I am well over 50, memorial services are becoming sadly more 
 frequent.  
 It feels good to say a proper goodbye and interesting to read the Funeral 
 Brochures and obituaries to learn what is considered newsworthy and often not 
 known about someone who was a long time good neighbor.
 
 Some good News:
 Sr. Francis Joseph, R.A., from the convent at 1001 S. 47th St, survived a 
 recent, experimental heart surgery and is home.
 Anyone who knows our 90+ year old PEACE PILGRIM can easily imagine the 
 persistence and energy Sister Francis applied to convince the Doctors to 
 accept a nonagenarian into the program.  She is home in time for today's 
 feast to honor the June 3rd anniversary of the Canonization of the founder of 
 her order, Saint Marie Eugenie, RA.
 She taught Grace Kelly, at Raven Hill.  She led missions in France, India the 
 Philippines, South America and here in the USA.
 She continues to lead and inspire by volunteering at St. Francis de Sales.
 She promotes opportunities to learn and act through a lecture series at her 
 convent.
 
 
 I hope all who read this note take some action to send kindness, compassion, 
 courage and forgiveness forward, today and every day.
 
 All the best!
 Liz
 Elizabeth Campion
 PRUDENTIAL, FOX  ROACH REALTORS, LLC
 210 W. Rittenhouse Square, Suite 406
 Phila, PA 19103
 
 215-790-5653 Desk  Voicemail
 215-880-2930 Cell  Emergency
 215-546-9781 Shared office Fax
 
 campio...@juno.com  or
 home.in.ph...@juno.com for Rental questions

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 www.PicasaWeb.google.com/CampionEF 
 
 To check out all PFR and Multiple Listed Properties and 
 to review CONSUMER NOTICE, link to
 www.PruFoxRoach.com
 
 Your referral is a welcome compliment.
 
 All the best in 2010 and beyond!
 
 
 
 
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[UCNeighbors] Re: [UC] UCD is innocent

2010-05-18 Thread Frank Carroll
Actually the downside is that they created one of the worst intersections in 
the city.

Frank

On May 18, 2010, at 08:53 PM, Anthony West wrote:

 Also a sound account.
 
 But the most important discussion of neighborhood development, of course, is 
 always whether the development is good for the neighborhood or not. Correct?
 
 I gassed up and repaired my vehicle at that garage many a time. But it posed 
 a pollution problem due to an elderly leaking tank, I heard. It takes big 
 bucks to fix a brownfield problem like this. Fortunately, Penn has big bucks. 
 So an elderly gas station was replaced with a shining new vet-school 
 facility. The vet school has always been an asset to UC; now it's even more 
 of an asset.
 
 Where's the problem, neighbors and neighborettes? Why are we now whining 
 about a neighborhood improvement that has no apparent downside?
 
 I suppose Penn could have led with its Dark Side. It could have said: We 
 plan to build a Big Building that will Forever Change the Essential Character 
 of the ordinary West Philadelphia neighbors who live a peaceful life at 39th 
  Baltimore, entirely unaffected by the large university that just happens to 
 be next door, that they all hate, because all good progressives hate 
 universities, just like the GOP does.
 
 But it didn't. Instead, it simply got the building built, bypassing our 
 neighborhood's pseudo-radical nonsense by any means necessary. How else could 
 it accomplish anything?
 
 Dialog is, by definition, a two-way street. If UC leftists wish to be 
 accepted as equal, rational partners in community planning for this 
 off-campus neighborhood, they need to quit foaming at the mouth every time a 
 university tries to solve a festering real-estate sore for us, as it did at 
 the 38th  Woodland gas station and again at the 40th  Pine nursing home.
 
 -- Tony West
 
 
 
 On 5/18/2010 8:21 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
 
 But I simply cannot believe that Karen's reporting this accurately. What did 
 she think-- that the project was _just_ a road reconfiguration? Didn't 
 people see the announcements, the artists' conceptions, the maps, the 
 website? I sure did. It was _always_ to accommodate a new Vet building. 
 Artists' conceptions were always part of the presentations. Every 
 presentation I saw, every web site, every announcement, said that a new Vet 
 building was going up. This bit about 'they told us it was for traffic flow 
 is hard to believe.
 
 What is Karen saying-- that they kept a _whole building project_ as a 
 _secret_? 
 

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Re: [UC] UCD is innocent

2010-05-18 Thread Frank Carroll
Actually the downside is that they created one of the worst intersections in 
the city.

Frank

PS. Sorry. I'm a little scattered tonight.

On May 18, 2010, at 08:53 PM, Anthony West wrote:

 Also a sound account.
 
 But the most important discussion of neighborhood development, of course, is 
 always whether the development is good for the neighborhood or not. Correct?
 
 I gassed up and repaired my vehicle at that garage many a time. But it posed 
 a pollution problem due to an elderly leaking tank, I heard. It takes big 
 bucks to fix a brownfield problem like this. Fortunately, Penn has big bucks. 
 So an elderly gas station was replaced with a shining new vet-school 
 facility. The vet school has always been an asset to UC; now it's even more 
 of an asset.
 
 Where's the problem, neighbors and neighborettes? Why are we now whining 
 about a neighborhood improvement that has no apparent downside?
 
 I suppose Penn could have led with its Dark Side. It could have said: We 
 plan to build a Big Building that will Forever Change the Essential Character 
 of the ordinary West Philadelphia neighbors who live a peaceful life at 39th 
  Baltimore, entirely unaffected by the large university that just happens to 
 be next door, that they all hate, because all good progressives hate 
 universities, just like the GOP does.
 
 But it didn't. Instead, it simply got the building built, bypassing our 
 neighborhood's pseudo-radical nonsense by any means necessary. How else could 
 it accomplish anything?
 
 Dialog is, by definition, a two-way street. If UC leftists wish to be 
 accepted as equal, rational partners in community planning for this 
 off-campus neighborhood, they need to quit foaming at the mouth every time a 
 university tries to solve a festering real-estate sore for us, as it did at 
 the 38th  Woodland gas station and again at the 40th  Pine nursing home.
 
 -- Tony West
 
 
 
 On 5/18/2010 8:21 PM, Brian Siano wrote:
 
 But I simply cannot believe that Karen's reporting this accurately. What did 
 she think-- that the project was _just_ a road reconfiguration? Didn't 
 people see the announcements, the artists' conceptions, the maps, the 
 website? I sure did. It was _always_ to accommodate a new Vet building. 
 Artists' conceptions were always part of the presentations. Every 
 presentation I saw, every web site, every announcement, said that a new Vet 
 building was going up. This bit about 'they told us it was for traffic flow 
 is hard to believe.
 
 What is Karen saying-- that they kept a _whole building project_ as a 
 _secret_? 
 


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[UC] Alert

2010-04-29 Thread Frank Carroll
FROM Philadelphia Police Department:

On Sat, 05-01-10,The University City 5-K Run will take place. The race will 
cause the closure of 32nd  33rd Sts above Market Street north to Baring 
Street. Motorists should use alternate routes.

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Re: [UC] West Philadelphia’s finest row homes

2010-04-21 Thread Frank Carroll
high Victorian flare. Could they use a proofreader or is this some decorative 
phrase of which I'm unaware?

Frank


On Apr 21, 2010, at 02:06 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote:

 Yes, there are many fine and wonderful things about UC.
  
 Perhaps some of our knowledgeable architects will cross post their comments. 
 Rapprochement to share the good is good.
  
 http://planphilly.com/look-west-finest-row-homes
  
 Craig



Re: [UC] why community activists avoid this list (Was: Re: FOCP response)

2010-04-12 Thread Frank Carroll

On Apr 12, 2010, at 06:11 PM, Anthony West wrote:

 Most activists say it's a waste of their unpaid volunteer time to read this 
 list.

informative, observant and factual? Did someone do a survey or is this just 
your factual opinion?

Frank


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Re: [UC] why community activists avoid this list (Was: Re: FOCP response)

2010-04-12 Thread Frank Carroll
On the other hand, a moderated list runs the risk of reflecting only the views 
of the moderator. In this case I can't say that this hasn't happened.

Frank

On Apr 12, 2010, at 07:41 PM, Anthony West wrote:

 Hi Frank. Always glad to talk with a fellow UC-list supporter.
 
 This is my opinion. I earn a humble living by determining which, among a 
 welter of reports, are informative, observant and factual; so please excuse 
 me if I extend my work habits to this listserve. Since it's an unmoderated 
 listserve, I can't deny that deceptive, ignorant, shameless and false 
 statements have equal right to be published on UC-list.
 
 That's what UC-list is best known for, among neighborhood movers and shakers 
 who read the internet. It's the listserve where nobody who actually does 
 anything around here, writes anything.
 
 Do you disagree with me?
 
 -- Tony West
 
 
 informative, observant and factual? Did someone do a survey or is this 
 just your factual opinion?
 
 Frank
   
 
 
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Re: [UC] Civility (Was: Re: Drug pushers in the NYTimes)

2010-04-02 Thread Frank Carroll
Maybe but I have said this a few times in the past—when UCNeighbors was first 
started, in fact—and it has not happened yet.

F

On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Brian Siano wrote:

 Frank, I'll make you a bet: that in the very near future, people on this list 
 will take your I think he did it to avoid discussion of his book 
 speculation, and treat it as a given fact. 
 


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Re: [UC] Civility (Was: Re: Drug pushers in the NYTimes)

2010-04-02 Thread Frank Carroll
I remember that!! I think I called attention to the incident on the list after 
seeing it on Andrew's Malcolm X. Park blog and the Daily News. (Andrew later 
apologized for causing trouble.)  Kyle may not have thought it was important 
enough to discuss but Fenton was eventually fired over it, so I suppose it 
wasn't so trivial.

F

PS. I *like* John Fenton and I'm sorry the whole thing happened. I hope he's 
satisfied and doing the neighborhood some good in his present position.


On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:02 AM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:

 when kyle announced his new list on june 28 2007, it was also during a time 
 when there was a lot of discussion on this list about the newspaper reports 
 of the ucd scandal over john fenton. here's kyle discussing it on jun 27:

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Re: [UC] Penn deserves credit, was Civility

2010-04-02 Thread Frank Carroll
Kyle said that both lists would be working for a short time which might or 
might not be over. I'm not sure how that would be accomplished but I'm not an 
IT professional.

F

On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:13 AM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:

 Glenn moyer wrote:
 PS. For those of you not subscribed to UCNeighbors, that
 listserv is now a Google Group and is no longer hosted by
 or affiliated with Penn.
 Thanks for this great news, Frank!  The Penn
 administration deserves credit for kicking them out!
 
 
 
 does this link still work? should it be modified/removed?
 
 
 http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/ucneighbors
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] Penn deserves credit, was Civility

2010-04-02 Thread Frank Carroll
A notification was sent to members of the list.

F

On Apr 2, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Glenn moyer wrote:

 Frank, how did you discover that UCNeighbors was moved to google?


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Re: [UC] Sad News For a Neighbor

2010-04-02 Thread Frank Carroll
Sorry to hear this, Tony. You have my sympathy.

F

On Apr 2, 2010, at 03:21 PM, Wilma de Soto wrote:

 Folks,
 
 The missing chihuahua Linda Le posted about earlier was Tony West's dog
 Mole, who sadly was struck by a car and killed.
 
 Regardless of differences of opinion those of us may have with Tony, he IS
 our neighbor and I wish to say publicly how sorry I was to learn about this
 and expresses my sympathies to him and his family.
 
 Anyone who has lost a cherished pet understands how terrible it is;
 especially so suddenly and unexpectedly.
 
 Tony West deserves our support during this difficult time.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Wilma
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] Civility (Was: Re: Drug pushers in the NYTimes)

2010-04-01 Thread Frank Carroll
If I remember correctly—and I'm sure that I do—Kyle started his personal 
listserv less than a week before his book was released. I always suspected that 
he did it to avoid any discussion about the book's subject matter. In that 
sense I agree with you. I don't think he can easily deal with disagreements. I 
could be wrong.

Frank

PS. For those of you not subscribed to UCNeighbors, that listserv is now a 
Google Group and is no longer hosted by or affiliated with Penn.

On Apr 1, 2010, at 08:59 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:

 Wilma de Soto wrote:
 As an original member of the SHCA Listserv and its subsequent UnivCity 
 Listserv, I will never believe UCNeighbors was not formed in order to 
 discredit and shut down the UnivCity Listserv@ purple.
 
 
 kyle set up his listserv towards the end of july 2007 after being on this 
 list for years. though it's convenient for some to think this list upmanship 
 has all been a question of civility, kyle's free-wheeling posting style here 
 was certainly no model of civility; while he was on this list he behaved at 
 times as badly as (if not worse than) those he (and others) accused of 
 behaving badly. his leaving was not about the civility of this list, but 
 about the inability of everyone on this list to agree. many people countered 
 his arguments and points of view with the same free-wheeling style he used. 
 some who did agree with him (while matching his free-wheeling style) left to 
 join his list at the same time he did; in fact, they were posting on his new 
 list before kyle posted the news here that he had set up his new list.
 
 on july 27 the following free-wheeling exchange happened between he and 
 melani on his new list:
 
 In a message dated 7/27/07 6:49:04 PM, kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes:
 
 the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn!
 
 
 to which melani replied:
 
 This will be heaven.   But, I hope he doesn't know where you live.
 Melani
 
 
 and then on july 28, kyle announced on this list that he had set up his new 
 list.
 
 
 one difference between kyle's list and this list: unlike kyle's list, this 
 list's archive can be viewed by ANYONE, whether they are subscribed or not. 
 the above exchange, in fact, is archived here:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18895.html
 
 and from there anyone can explore what kyle and others posted over the years 
 -- good, bad, or ugly -- and the discussions that followed his leaving:
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18858.html
 
 
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Re: [UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] possible gatherings of juveniles 40th and Mkt this...

2010-03-24 Thread Frank Carroll
OK. That was funny.

Frank

On Mar 24, 2010, at 07:30 PM, craigso...@aol.com wrote:

 And, the dancers were not particularly talented



[UCNeighbors] Re: [UC] Re: [Ucneighbors] possible gatherings of juveniles 40th and Mkt this...

2010-03-24 Thread Frank Carroll
Here ya go, Al. Having been to 40th  Walnut on Friday and Saturday nights 
recently, I'm not surprised at all.

http://www.philebrity.com/2010/03/23/oh-little-freddie-daniels-if-your-parents-dont-read-your-twitter-account-and-alert-the-authorities-i-guess-well-have-to/

Frank

On Mar 24, 2010, at 06:27 PM, krf...@aol.com wrote:

  
  
 In a message dated 3/24/2010 6:07:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
 alaricvisig...@gmail.com writes:
 Lets make teenagers the enemy.
 
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Elaine Jenson elaine_jen...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
 from Penn Public Safety website
 
 http://www.publicsafety.upenn.edu/NewsDetails.asp?ID=55
 Does anyone know if this happened, or is it just the fear and loathing in 
 certain parts of the Penn Administration about anyone who's not their kind.
  
 Alan Krigman
 KRF Management, ICON/Information Concepts Inc
 211 S 45th St, Philadelphia PA 19104-2918
 215-349-6500, fax 215-349-6502
 krf...@aol.com or al.krig...@krf.icodat.com
  
 PS: I can understand the Gallery and Market St East. I can understand South 
 Street. But the 40th Street Corridor is a figment of some very fertile 
 imaginations... why would a crowd of teenagers want to mass there? Surely 
 they don't want to steal mouse-dropping-tainted produce.

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[UC] Fwd: Fresh Grocer closure due to mice

2010-02-22 Thread Frank Carroll


Begin forwarded message:

 FroGro closure due to miceFacilities and Real Estate
 
 Despite initial reports of electrical problems, Fresh Grocer was required to 
 close last week due to a court order following multiple failed health 
 inspections, according to Jeff Moran, spokesman for Philadelphia’s Department 
 of Public Health.
 The store, at 40th and Walnut streets, was closed from Wednesday afternoon 
 until Thursday afternoon. The violations found by inspectors included mouse 
 infestation and improper storage, said Moran. The store reopened after 
 passing a subsequent inspection.



Re: [UC] New Asian Restaurant

2010-02-15 Thread Frank Carroll
It's Green Garden. My partner and I ate there on Friday night. There is zero 
atmosphere but the food was fresh, delicious and obviously cooked-to-order. The 
prices are reasonable, too. As I was checking out their website on my iPhone, 
the cashier/waitress told me she designed it. She was quite proud.

http://www.greengardenatpenn.com/

Frank


On Feb 15, 2010, at 09:03 PM, Joe Clarke wrote:

 
 
 I'm not certain of the name but it is the one next to the laundromat below 
 47th on Baltimore.  I stopped in last Saturday and ordered the Mongolian 
 chicken.  It was very good.  I noticed their hours of operation extend until 
 midnight.  May be nice for those later cases of munchies.  Has anyone else 
 tried it?
 
 Joe