If I remember correctly—and I'm sure that I do—Kyle started his "personal" listserv less than a week before his book was released. I always suspected that he did it to avoid any discussion about the book's subject matter. In that sense I agree with you. I don't think he can easily deal with disagreements. I could be wrong.
Frank PS. For those of you not subscribed to UCNeighbors, that listserv is now a Google Group and is no longer hosted by or affiliated with Penn. On Apr 1, 2010, at 08:59 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote: > Wilma de Soto wrote: >> As an original member of the SHCA Listserv and its subsequent UnivCity >> Listserv, I will never believe UCNeighbors was not formed in order to >> discredit and shut down the UnivCity Listserv@ purple. > > > kyle set up his listserv towards the end of july 2007 after being on this > list for years. though it's convenient for some to think this list upmanship > has all been a question of civility, kyle's free-wheeling posting style here > was certainly no model of civility; while he was on this list he behaved at > times as badly as (if not worse than) those he (and others) accused of > behaving badly. his leaving was not about the civility of this list, but > about the inability of everyone on this list to agree. many people countered > his arguments and points of view with the same free-wheeling style he used. > some who did agree with him (while matching his free-wheeling style) left to > join his list at the same time he did; in fact, they were posting on his new > list before kyle posted the news here that he had set up his new list. > > on july 27 the following free-wheeling exchange happened between he and > melani on his new list: > >> In a message dated 7/27/07 6:49:04 PM, kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: > >> the cool thing about this software is that i can pre-ban glenn! > > > to which melani replied: > >> This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where you live. >> Melani > > > and then on july 28, kyle announced on this list that he had set up his new > list. > > > one difference between kyle's list and this list: unlike kyle's list, this > list's archive can be viewed by ANYONE, whether they are subscribed or not. > the above exchange, in fact, is archived here: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18895.html > > and from there anyone can explore what kyle and others posted over the years > -- good, bad, or ugly -- and the discussions that followed his leaving: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/univcity@list.purple.com/msg18858.html > > > .................. > UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. > ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
