Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Custom Joggler HD Skin with Controls (Took me all week)
Thanks a lot for this! Follow the instructions on music on Mac not a Windows computer, but my meters are oversized for some reason. stereoptic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53162 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116248 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Greg Erskine wrote: > hi Operajulian, > > I usually have different ssid names for 2.4GHz and 5GHz. I was wondering > if your RPi3B+ has only 2.4GHz but is trying to attach to 5GHz??? > > regards > Greg Greg Thanks so much for taking a look. I am in Toronto Canada with a Bell 3000 router. It has both 5 and 2.4 channels with the same SSID I also have a SSID guest as well. Oh well That said the ethernet setup went great - plugged to phono outputs of the MiniBoss to a Tivoli Radio aux input. My main Pi with LMS can find the Zero Pi and load music/apps etc into the playing cue. So thats all good :-) Cheers again Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Well I tried a whole new download of pcp v8.2 64 bit version. Extracted it and Rasp Imager onto a new card ( yes with the settings options ). No network find for Wifi - again Thanks to the wonders of Amazon Prime - got an OTG USB to ethernet adaptor Tried via ethernet and a IP address is found. Logged in the pcp via the IP address Re-entered the Wifi credentials and saved thus creating a PSK paraphrase. Recognises other changes in the pcp settings eg the Mini Boss DAC but still no Wifi - DARN Off to have a beer Not a successful Pi day/evening Cheers Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
hi Operajulian, I was just looking at your wifi-diag in pastebin. (posted 23 hours ago?) I haven't seen a wifi network like yours before. New technology? I'll just post a few things hoping someone can chime in. 29 wifi AP's with quite a few with having a blank ssid. The strongest ssid which I assume you are trying to attach too, has 3 networks, 2.4GHz, 5GHz and something else???. I usually have different ssid names for 2.4GHz and 5GHz. I was wondering if your RPi3B+ has only 2.4GHz but is trying to attach to 5GHz??? regards Greg Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Operajulian wrote: > . > I have been using the Raspberry Imager and the settings option as well > to try and set the SSID,Password and Country code and that did not work > either. > > Julian Just so you are sure :):):):- One needs to load the rpi Bullseye Lite Image and fill in the settings for SSH and Wi-Fi ( I just use pi and raspberry for user id and passwd when testing). These settings don't work for piCorePlayer and one must unzip the PCP download to reach the .img I have just done the recommended tests for my Zero and it appears to have just fallen of the network like a Norwegian Blue:rolleyes: Just emailed the supplier to see if I'm eligible for a replacement ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Man in a van wrote: > I don't think it is as bad now > > > > *@Julian*; how do you determine the IP address of the zero 2W ? > > ronnie Ronnie I have a Kindle Fire with analiti app on it - it can scan all the devices using wifi and also lists the MAC addresses. Cheers Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Operajulian wrote: > Paul > Tried that in Notepad ++ > > Still no joy at finding network when using wifi. > > Tried the same on 3b+ card - same - no wifi. > > Though when I hook up to etherent it finds an IP address. > I appreciate the help and advice - gents > > Julian Greg I tried an upload of the Wifi Diag to the pcp Pastebin - all new to me. Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Paul Webster wrote: > Notepad on Windows is not a good idea for a text file that is going to > be read on a Linux system. > > Easy way to verify use NotepadPlusPlus (open source) and tell it to > save with Unix line endings Paul Tried that in Notepad ++ Still no joy at finding network when using wifi. Tried the same on 3b+ card - same - no wifi. Though when I hook up to etherent it finds an IP address. I appreciate the help and advice - gents Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Man in a van wrote: > I don't think it is as bad now > > 'https://mspoweruser.com/windows-notepad-now-supports-linux-line-feeds/ > ' > (https://mspoweruser.com/windows-notepad-now-supports-linux-line-feeds/) > > and in my post (#11) I did say I used Windows and it worked, just sayin > :):) > > But still a good suggestion > > I have also noticed that often I can't get "http://pcp.local; to work, > but the IP Address nearly always does > > *@Julian*; how do you determine the IP address of the zero 2W ? > > ronnie Thanks again I don't know how many SD swaps and tries and still not getting there. In the process lost all the details of my Kitchen 3B+ and had to restore that. I have been using the Raspberry Imager and the settings option as well to try and set the SSID,Password and Country code and that did not work either. I will try the NotepadPlusPlus - just to be sure. Cheers Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Picoreplayer: auto switching in now playing
ScreenSwitcher is missing jive target, maybe this is why a manual install was required I have screenswitcher working. I manually copied the files over. This did not work for custom clock. On GitHub there is this file, in which some have targets=jive And some do not. https://github.com/LMS-Community/lms...extensions.xml Screenswitcher is missing the target=jive So this might explain why I had to install screenswitcher manually as it never appears in the applet install list on the previous piCoreplayer Still need to see why customclock while installed does not work, cannot click on custom clock menus bengaldave's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4605 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116996 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Found my RPi0W. I just did a fresh pCP 8.2.0 (32bit) build on a RPi0W using wifi and HDMI. All went according to plan. Even http://pcp.local works. Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
I just did a fresh pCP 8.2.0 (64bit) build on a RPi02W using wifi. All went according to plan. Even http://pCPRPi02W.local works. I just noticed I picked up my RPi02W instead of a RPi0W. I'll see if I can find one and try again. BTW: mdns is NOT working on my other pCP's. I am wondering if I only ever test on a fresh pCP builds? Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
I'm suffering from too much initialisation :):) Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer - info screen when off?
I figured out how to copy the files over for custom clock and screen switcher. They both show installed under applets. Screenswitcher is working. Custom clock is now showing menu options, Like Extras >> custom clock But clicking on an any custom clock menu does nothing. I have superdatetime installed. Also, it seems I need license manager installed or screenswitcher does not work. bengaldave's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4605 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113107 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
UDP is what is used by mDNS/bonjour - it is the protocol underneath TCP/IP Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Paul Webster wrote: > Yes - bonjour - but in theory not needed with modern versions of Windows > 10 as seems to be the case for you given that others work. > > Another idea which wont be right if it worked on same RPi > and same AP with Raspberry Pi OS perhaps the UDP broadcast not > going through the WIFi AP. Well I might look tomorrow, when I find out what you mean :confused: :) But it's a job for another day :) ronnie Ah, just worked out what you mean, yes it works on the same raspberry pi using the raspberry pi OS. The RPI Imager Tool allows one to preconfigure the wpa_supplement file (amongst other things). I'll look up UDP later :p Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Yes - bonjour - but in theory not needed with modern versions of Windows 10 as seems to be the case for you given that others work. Another idea which wont be right if it worked on same RPi and same AP with Raspberry Pi OS perhaps the UDP broadcast not going through the WIFi AP. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Paul Webster wrote: > Modern Windows Notepad can preserve line endings but I dont think it > offers a save as choice. > So if you start from a fresh file in Windows Notepad then it has Windows > line endings. > > However, if your RPi is getting a reachable IP address then it is > working. > > If pcp.local is not working (and you have not personalised the host > name) then it implies, to me, that your Windows machine does not have > mDNS support. > > For older versions of Windows, installing Apple iTunes is one way to get > it. > (not checked back to see which version of Windows you are running). Hi Paul, thanks for the info, the old Apple ITunes install (was that for the Bonjour which accompanied it ?) :o I'm on Windows 10 Pro, I have no problem with moode.local, volumio.local or raspberrypi.local. I have always had problems with pcp.local, sometimes it works without a problem and other times I have to resort to IP Address. It doesn't seem to like my network. This irritates me, but as I only use pCP on one device for my personal use, I can live with it. I tend to use the raspberry PI OS for LMS and Squeezelite and play with other OS as a way of learning :confused:. Sometimes I learn big and sometimes little :) Keep safe ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
In theory, piCorePlayer should handle different formatted text files. pCP changes the EOL markers and just reads the ssid and password and creates a fresh config file. But there is always a chance that there is some combination not accounted for?? Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Modern Windows Notepad can preserve line endings but I dont think it offers a save as choice. So if you start from a fresh file in Windows Notepad then it has Windows line endings. However, if your RPi is getting a reachable IP address then it is working. If pcp.local is not working (and you have not personalised the host name) then it implies, to me, that your Windows machine does not have mDNS support. For older versions of Windows, installing Apple iTunes is one way to get it. (not checked back to see which version of Windows you are running). Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Paul Webster wrote: > Notepad on Windows is not a good idea for a text file that is going to > be read on a Linux system. > > Easy way to verify use NotepadPlusPlus (open source) and tell it to > save with Unix line endings I don't think it is as bad now 'https://mspoweruser.com/windows-notepad-now-supports-linux-line-feeds/ ' (https://mspoweruser.com/windows-notepad-now-supports-linux-line-feeds/) and in my post # I did say I used Windows and it worked, just sayin :):) But still a good suggestion I have also noticed that often I can't get "http://pcp.local; to work, but the IP Address nearly always does *@Julian*; how do you determine the IP address of the zero 2W ? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Notepad on Windows is not a good idea for a text file that is going to be read on a Linux system. Easy way to verify use NotepadPlusPlus (open source) and tell it to save with Unix line endings Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Operajulian wrote: > Thanks Ronnie > > I used Notepad on a Windows computer to make the wpa_ file. I also > edited the config file to put the HDMI into safe mode - and that worked. > So I don't think it is the text editor. > I having another think - sorry to read about your Pi Zero 2w. > > Julian I would try without theconfig file edit, just wpa_supplicant Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Man in a van wrote: > How did you make the file Julian, which text editor and did you type the > file title or copy and paste? > > I have done the latter before, and in copying > wpa_suplicant.conf.sample, I actually called the file > wpa_suplicant.conf. {note the full stop} > > ronnie > > I'm just repeating the procedure on a different piZero 2W, as the one I > used earlier in this thread died just after I posted :(:( > Ahh > > > ronnie Thanks Ronnie I used Notepad on a Windows computer to make the wpa_ file. I also edited the config file to put the HDMI into safe mode - and that worked. So I don't think it is the text editor. I having another think - sorry to read about your Pi Zero 2w. Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 8.0.0
A minor point but it might be a good idea to do a "tail -f" on the LMS update log, as it is now there is a bit of a wait with no output and then the whole lot at once when (I assume) the log file is closed. coyrls's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44253 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114828 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Operajulian wrote: > Well I tried all those and more. > > I moved everything upstairs to be right beside the router. > I loaded a fresh SD card with Raspbian OS and all that worked fine - > including finding the network and getting an IP address. > > So loaded a new SD with Picore image 8.2 - went through the whole > process again and still no network found. > Yes I have triple checked the wpa_supplicant.conf file and it has the > exact same details as the successful Raspbian OS card. > > Darn - time for a coffee and a rethink. > Julian How did you make the file Julian, which text editor and did you type the file title or copy and paste? I have done the latter before and in copying wpa_suplicant.conf.sample I actually called the file wpa_suplicant.conf. {notethe gull stop} ronnie I' kust repeating the procedure on a different piZero 2W as the one I used earlie in this thread died just after i posted :(:( Ahh ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCorePlayer on RPi Zero W - first time wifi settings
Operajulian wrote: > Thanks Ronnie ( & also Greg ) > > That gives me a few things to try over the weekend. I have to be at work > today. Much appreciate all the work/ideas/updates that all of this team > undertake to keep all these different ways of using Rasp Pi and LMS an > ongoing project. Cheers - Julian Well I tried all those and more. I moved everything upstairs to be right beside the router. I loaded a fresh SD card with Raspbian OS and all that worked fine - including finding the network and getting an IP address. So loaded a new SD with Picore image 8.2 - went through the whole process again and still no network found. Yes I have triple checked the wpa-supplicant.conf file and it has the exact same details as the successful Raspbian OS card. Darn - time for a coffee and a rethink. Julian Operajulian's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70482 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112765 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Custom Joggler HD Skin with Controls (Took me all week)
seekasoul wrote: > Where to get them? Meter images are in download link above Eyerex's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116248 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Custom Joggler HD Skin with Controls (Took me all week)
Eyerex wrote: > > Only problems is meters as think you can only load one image at a time > in \SqueezePlay\lua\applets\JogglerSkin\images\UNOFFICIAL\VUMeter Where to get them? seekasoul's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116248 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Custom Joggler HD Skin with Controls (Took me all week)
gegen wrote: > Well done, looks great on my setup! > > And if you wanted to remove an extra command 'pcp br' will do a backup > and reboot in one hit. :) Cheers didn't know that will update my video info Eyerex's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116248 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Custom Joggler HD Skin with Controls (Took me all week)
seekasoul wrote: > I have a MacMini M1, would love to use this VUMeter skins on > SqueezePlay... > Sure I have an rpi runinng pCP but without a display attached. I use SqueezePlay on my PC to make then so will be ok just swap my files with originals in \SqueezePlay\lua\applets\JogglerSkin Only problems is meters as think you can only load one image at a time in \SqueezePlay\lua\applets\JogglerSkin\images\UNOFFICIAL\VUMeter Eyerex's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116248 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix
Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Custom Joggler HD Skin with Controls (Took me all week)
I have a MacMini M1, would love to use this VUMeter skins on SqueezePlay... Sure I have an rpi runinng pCP but without a display attached. seekasoul's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69788 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116248 ___ unix mailing list unix@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/unix