[UPHPU] Opportunities?
Hello everyone, Many of you know me from the past. I frequented IRC as brasto, though I have not been there for a while. I'll likely be getting back on again soon. I've had some opportunities come my way, and I've been in school full time going for a masters degree in my ambition: Marriage and Family Therapy. I'm still going that direction, but I miss my techie days too, and I want to have reliable full time work to provide for my family a little better. I can make a long term commitment even though I'm in graduate school for something else, so that shouldn't be a problem. Do any of you know of any openings in the Salt Lake Valley in Web Development or in Linux System Administration? -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Androids and Tethering
Okay, this worked without rooting the phone: http://www.humans-enabled.com/2009/12/how-to-tether-your-verizon-droid-as.html the instructions are for Ubuntu, with sidenotes for Fedora, but it's pretty easy to customize for openSUSE and other distros if you know what you are doing. Now I can go to Argosy University, and use my phone network at 4g speed and avoid all their blocked ports. They practically lock out everything except port 80. Really annoying. Thank you, Brandon Stout http://flfn.org On 11/01/2010 05:24 PM, Clint Savage wrote: So I figured out my problem. It's my laptop, not the wireless tethering app. Somehow I'm getting some weird log messages. I'm going to dig into that very soon so I don't get stuck somewhere without tethering :) Cheers, Clint On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Jeremy jer...@edgecast.net wrote: I ran across a clear.com booth today. Never seen them before. They seem to have the best offering for mobile hotspots. I just might pick up the same unit marketed through sprint as an overdrive. Unlimited 4G / 5MB 3G for $45 or 55/mo. No contract and even cheaper options available. This might be the best option for me. Sprint and ATT lost me at contract and data pricing respectively. On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Clint Savage her...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:15 PM, MilesTogoe miles.to...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/26/2010 11:11 PM, Clint Savage wrote: https://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/ -- doesn't work for my galaxy s phone, but I hear others have had success. Maybe you will too... it requires a rooted phone - is yours rooted ? Yep Froyo (avail for Evo and I think now for Galaxy) should have tethering built in though some carriers are disabling it (: T-Mobile likes to disable everything they can to charge you money. I'm about to buy EVO too (for front facing camera - though new MyTouch out on 11/3 should have too) - was told both Sprint and TMobile look other way at minor tethering - though downloading distros might be pushing that. Otherwise they are all trying to soak users for another $15-30 / mo for tethering. I was downloading at least an ISO's worth of data per month without problem on T-Mobile. My tethering issues are beyond the basic stuff. I've not installed FroYo and will be trying that soon. Clint ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Androids and Tethering
Okay, I switched networks to Sprint, and got the HTC Evo. I should have mentioned before that my desktop OS is Linux of the openSUSE variety. I didn't realize I'd need pdanet client software on the desktop, so I'm still not tethered, and I'll be working on that later, after a couple big assignments are out of the way. I'll keep looking for other tethering solutions. Any suggestions from any Linux users out there? Until then, I thought of something cool to share. I have a new way to get a favorite Linux distribution: 1. Download entire DVD ISO file to huge flash memory on phone at 4g speeds while away. 2. Transfer to desktop when home. Swt. My phone is 5 times as powerful as my first pentium laptop was. Okay y'all, go back to your PHP'ing. Thank you, Brandon Stout http://flfn.org On 10/19/2010 01:35 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: Technically, pdanet does beat the system, but V is aware of it and it doesn't affect their bottom line really, so they let it slide. There are people on the forum who use 5 gigs of bandwith a month on rooted phones and V hasn't said boo to them, so ymmv. Ash On 10/19/2010 1:19 PM, Brandon Stout wrote: On 10/19/2010 01:00 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: Oh, one thing about the X though, it is a battery hog. I don't leave on any of the wireless stuff except 3g, which is not easy to turn off, but I need to charge it daily, sometimes twice daily if I turn on GPS, bluetooth, and wifi. Ash On 10/19/2010 12:54 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: I have the droid X and it is awesome. Does so much stuff that I never knew I needed. You can root it pretty easily, but I haven't done it yet, because I'm kinda nervous that Big red V might come down on rooters. Your only choices for tethering are to root the phone, or use pdanet for corded or btooth if you don't want to root your phone, or pay the $ to V every month for cordless hotspot. There is a really active forum at http://www.droidforums.net/ They can help you, and have sticky posts about this very topic. Ash Thank you Ashley. That's a cool forum that'll keep me busy for a while now. Sounds like pdanet is a good choice since it'll keep the battery charged and I can get what I want without having to beat the system, or at least it looks that way. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Androids and Tethering
On 10/18/2010 11:59 PM, Michael Hart wrote: Check xda developers online, I just got 2.2 on my captivate and it rocks Is this what you are talking about? http://www.xda-developers.com/ Is this a full OS replacement flashed onto ROM? -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Androids and Tethering
On 10/19/2010 03:36 AM, Jeremy wrote: 2.2 OS supports wi-fi tether, but most carriers remove it in their customs builds... so root! There are apps that provide wireless tether, but all the ones I have seen for older versions of the OS require a rooted phone. If you don't mind the corded tether (1.6 OS) or Bluetooth (2.1 OS) PdaNet has clients for both windows and mac and has worked fine for me not rooted. EasyTether connects to windows and ubuntu 10.4. 3G and 4G does not mean the same thing to all carriers. Do some homework. I wish I had a good resource for you right now. I went cheap with a Zio (running 1.6) on Cricket when my iPhone was stolen, but I have my eye on the Vibrant from T-Mo but the Droid X looks like the freakin' Caddy of droids. Cricket has a new mobile hotspot with no contract(double check that). Sprint requires a 2yr contract with their hotspot, which is just to long for that kind of product. Good luck! Jeremy, I'm fine with corded tether or even bluetooth, though bluetooth is my last choice. What have you done to gain root access on your phone? What I've read so far involves replacing the OS with one that has root access. Have you done something else? I'm looking for ways to make a hotspot off the phone, but I think it's ridiculous to make people pay for what the phone can do anyway. I'd rather add an app that makes a hotspot of the phone to the native OS, but I'll replace it if that's the only way. Brandon -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Androids and Tethering
On 10/19/2010 01:00 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: Oh, one thing about the X though, it is a battery hog. I don't leave on any of the wireless stuff except 3g, which is not easy to turn off, but I need to charge it daily, sometimes twice daily if I turn on GPS, bluetooth, and wifi. Ash On 10/19/2010 12:54 PM, Ashley Oviatt wrote: I have the droid X and it is awesome. Does so much stuff that I never knew I needed. You can root it pretty easily, but I haven't done it yet, because I'm kinda nervous that Big red V might come down on rooters. Your only choices for tethering are to root the phone, or use pdanet for corded or btooth if you don't want to root your phone, or pay the $ to V every month for cordless hotspot. There is a really active forum at http://www.droidforums.net/ They can help you, and have sticky posts about this very topic. Ash Thank you Ashley. That's a cool forum that'll keep me busy for a while now. Sounds like pdanet is a good choice since it'll keep the battery charged and I can get what I want without having to beat the system, or at least it looks that way. -- Thank you, Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/25/2010 12:12 PM, Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
Sorry, I meant does Apache have the…
In that case yes, because I'm able to use it fine when specifying
index.php/whatever or when using the rewrite rules I commented out of
the vhost by themselves.
I've found a hack I guess I'll live with. I commented out the
ErrorDocument line here:
# cat /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf
#
# This configuration file enables the default Welcome
# page if there is no default index page present for
# the root URL. To disable the Welcome page, comment
# out all the lines below.
#
LocationMatch ^/+$
Options Indexes
#ErrorDocument 403 /error/noindex.html
/LocationMatch
Then I add this to the bottom of the vhost (uncommenting my own rewrite
rule designed redirect any ServerAliase to the ServerName):
RewriteEngine On
RewriteOptions Inherit
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^flfn\.org$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://flfn.org$1 [R=301,L]
#Hack:
ErrorDocument 403 /index.php
Now it all works just fine. The underlying problem is still there, but
without a real solution, I'll take the hack and move on.
Brandon
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Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/25/2010 03:30 PM, David Landry wrote: I think that /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf is meant to be commented out when your site goes live. I wonder if removing your hack and just commenting out those four lines in welcome.conf would fix your problem. David Landry David, that did it. They didn't even catch that in the httpd.apache mail list. Once again, this mail list shows it's quality. Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
I talked to a few people on IRC a few days ago and we didn't find the
problem. Google searches for the entry in the error logs have not
helped me resolve this. I have this on my new server:
VirtualHost *:80
SuexecUserGroupbrasto brasto
ServerName flfn.org
ServerAliaswww.flfn.org
ServerAdminad...@flfn.org
DocumentRoot /home/brasto/www/flfn
Directory /home/brasto/www/flfn
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride All
/Directory
CustomLog /var/log/httpd/brasto/flfn/access_log combined
ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/brasto/flfn/error_log
#Next three lines I'll want after fixing rewrite problem:
#RewriteEngine On
#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^flfn\.org$ [NC]
#RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://flfn.org$1 [R=301,L]
/VirtualHost
Don't try to see the issue on FLFN.org since the site is still on my old
server. I access it by modifying /etc/hosts with the new IP until the
site is working. I have mod rewrite installed, and I can verify it by
uncommenting the last three lines of that vhost. That rewrite works
just fine. However, if I install Wordpress or Drupal and try to turn on
friendly urls, they create a .htaccess file with these lines:
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine on
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !=/favicon.ico
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php?q=$1 [L,QSA]
/IfModule
With that the whole site seems to work except I can't go to
http://flfn.org/ . If I ask for http://flfn.org/index.php it works.
All friendly URLs work. In the .htaccess file, if I comment out every
line except 'RewritEngine on' I still have the same problem, and can't
request http://flfn.org/ without index.php. If I move the .htaccess
file and put those lines in the vhost config, I get a browser error but
nothing in the server error logs (not the vhost error logs or the
default error logs). Here's what I get in the browser with the
.htaccess info added to the vhost:
Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Apache/2.2.3 (CentOS) Server at flfn.org Port 80
Here's what I get in the vhost error logs when I request http://flfn.org
without /index.php:
[Wed Feb 24 15:05:50 2010] [error] [client 67.182.203.21] Options
FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that
RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /home/brasto/www/flfn/, referer:
http://flfn.org/admin/reports/status
As you can see, I have Options FollowSymLinks set in the vhost. The
.htaccess file also has Options +FollowSymLinks in it.
Any ideas?
Brandon
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Re: [UPHPU] Introductions
Christer Edwards christer.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Who are you? Brandon Stout, or on IRC 'brasto'. Linux was my hobby, then my career, and it's becoming my hobby again. I'm starting a nonprofit under my dearly departed wife's name to help families with young children who go through a sudden loss of a parent or who have a terminally ill parent. I've been there and seen the unique challenges faced by our family. My goal is to make a difference for these families, but to do it without taxes because I don't believe the answer lies in more taxes. I'm chasing a dream, and enjoying my new Linode vps on the side. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 03:55 PM, Wade Preston Shearer wrote: On Wednesday, February 24, 2010, at 02:10PM, Brandon Stout b...@mscis.org wrote: With that the whole site seems to work except I can't go to http://flfn.org/ . If I ask for http://flfn.org/index.php it works. Do you have DirectoryIndex set (index.php)? Yes: DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php I tried putting it first in the order and that didn't make a difference. I put it back at the end because sometimes I want to troubleshoot something by putting a temporary index.html without moving index.php. Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 03:51 PM, Jon Jensen wrote: Two observations. 1. I imagine you need to add Options SymLinksIfOwnerMatch. Also, are /home/brasto/www/flfn and its contents owned by brasto:brasto? 2. .htaccess rewrite rules are in a per-directory context. If you move them into a VirtualHost, you might need to adjust them (unless you wrap them in a Directory). e.g. RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php?q=$1 [L,QSA] becomes something like RewriteRule ^(.*)$ /index.php?q=$1 [L,QSA] (notice the slash) There may be other issues, those are the immediate ones that I'd look at. Jon Jon, I tried putting SymLinksIfOwnerMatch in there as well as both, and it didn't resolve it. I took out SymLinksIfOwnerMatch because it's more restrictive than just FollowSymLinks . All files and directories are owned by brasto:apache , as they were on the old server. I use apache for the group because HTTP Server can't write to files it needs to even though I specify the brasto user, so for files I need it to write to, I give write access to the group. It works on the old server, so my thought is that it should work here as well. On the second point, I think I tried putting the .htaccess directives in the Directory section, too. I'll try again to make sure. Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 04:04 PM, Brandon Stout wrote: Do you have DirectoryIndex set (index.php)? Yes: DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php I tried putting it first in the order and that didn't make a difference. I put it back at the end because sometimes I want to troubleshoot something by putting a temporary index.html without moving index.php. Brandon I should also add that I tried putting DirectoryIndex index.php in the vhost as well, which didn't work. Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 04:04 PM, Jon Jensen wrote:
Good call Wade... the giveaway is this line:
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
That basically says don't apply this rewrite rule to directories, and
http://flfn.org == /home/brasto/www/flfn, which is a directory.
Jon
Note that if I comment out all rules and conditions and the only line in
the .htaccess file is RewriteEngine on the problem occurs.
Brandon
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Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 05:26 PM, Ash wrote: I've had weird stuff like this happen that was dns related. I was also using the hosts file to bypass my normal dns, and it did something similar. When the real dns server finally started resolving the address correctly, it started working. I don't remember specifics, but you might want to ping to see where your domain is pointing with no server name. Ash Ok, I have a 5 minute ttl, so I pointed dns to the new server in hopes to resolve this tonight, and to see if this is the issue. You can now see what you get if you go to http://flfn.org - it's the default non-vhost doc root page in /var/www/html - a completely different directory. If you go to http://flfn.org/index.php , you get the site. Here's what the access log shows when viewing http://flfn.org : 67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:17:41:04 -0700] GET / HTTP/1.1 403 5043 http://flfn.org/admin/reports/status; Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1 Firefox/3.5.6 67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:17:41:04 -0700] GET /icons/apache_pb.gif HTTP/1.1 200 2326 http://flfn.org/; Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1 Firefox/3.5.6 67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:17:41:04 -0700] GET /icons/powered_by_rh.png HTTP/1.1 200 1213 http://flfn.org/; Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1 Firefox/3.5.6 Note that it throws a 403. Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 06:40 PM, Kirk Cerny wrote:
does this work? It is what I have for my wordpress.
It might be the / in front of the index.php
# BEGIN WordPress
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
/IfModule
# END WordPress
I just tried it and it has the same result. Any other ideas out there?
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Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 08:57 PM, Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
Does PHP have the mod_rewrite module compiled in?
I'm not sure:
# php -i | grep modules
extension_dir = /usr/lib64/php/modules = /usr/lib64/php/modules
# ls /usr/lib64/php/modules
curl.so json.so pdo_mysql.so sqlite.so xsl.so
dom.so mbstring.so pdo.so wddx.so zip.so
fileinfo.so mysqli.sopdo_sqlite.so xmlreader.so
gd.somysql.so phar.soxmlwriter.so
that seems to tell me no. However phpinfo() tells me it's loaded. I
put it here:
http://chsalumni.net/phpinfo.php
At least until this is resolved.
I've now pointed FLFN.org back to the old server, and duplicated the
problem with http://chsalumni.net/ (on the same server) using wordpress.
If I go to Wordpress Admin, Settings, Permalinks, and use any
non-default setting, it creates a .htaccess file with this in it:
# BEGIN WordPress
IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On
RewriteBase /
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
/IfModule
# END WordPress
Once again, if I comment out every line except RewriteEngine On, I have
the same problem (with or without wrapping it in IfModule
mod_rewrite.c). The vhost is almost identical:
VirtualHost *:80
SuexecUserGroupbrasto brasto
ServerName chsalumni.net
ServerAliaswww.chsalumni.net chs91.org www.chs91.org
ServerAdminad...@chsalumni.net
DocumentRoot /home/brasto/www/chsalumni
Directory /home/brasto/www/chsalumni
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride All
/Directory
CustomLog /var/log/httpd/brasto/chsalumni/access_log combined
ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/brasto/chsalumni/error_log
#RewriteEngine On
#RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^chsalumni\.net$ [NC]
#RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://chsalumni.net$1 [R=301,L]
/VirtualHost
Again, if I turn on Rewrite Engine using the vhost and use the rule and
condition that are commented out right now, they work fine, but if I try
to use the rules and conditions in the .htaccess file within the vhost,
I get the bad request error, with nothing in the error logs anywhere.
With the .htaccess as it is and vhost as it is, I still get these
entries in the logs when requesting http://chsalumni.net :
tail -f /var/log/httpd/brasto/chsalumni/*
snip to when page refresh occurs
== /var/log/httpd/brasto/chsalumni/access_log ==
67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:23:38:48 -0700] GET / HTTP/1.1 403 5043
http://chsalumni.net/wp-admin/options-permalink.php; Mozilla/5.0 (X11;
U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1
Firefox/3.5.6
== /var/log/httpd/brasto/chsalumni/error_log ==
[Wed Feb 24 23:38:48 2010] [error] [client 67.182.203.21] Options
FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that
RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /home/brasto/www/chsalumni/,
referer: http://chsalumni.net/wp-admin/options-permalink.php
== /var/log/httpd/brasto/chsalumni/access_log ==
67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:23:38:48 -0700] GET /icons/apache_pb.gif
HTTP/1.1 200 2326 http://chsalumni.net/; Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux
x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1 Firefox/3.5.6
67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:23:38:48 -0700] GET
/icons/powered_by_rh.png HTTP/1.1 200 1213 http://chsalumni.net/;
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201
SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1 Firefox/3.5.6
This site I can leave broken for longer, so I'll leave it this way
hoping we can find a solution soon. Of course, FollowSymLinks is set,
though I have not tested SymLinksIfOwnerMatch on this site like I did
the other.
Thank you all for your help.
Brandon
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Re: [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue
On 02/24/2010 09:00 PM, Jon Jensen wrote: Anything else different on this server? I don't know how the default apache packaging is set up in centos, but could be you've got a conf.d directory with other apache config files that are getting included (e.g. default config for each module). Could be they have some other directives getting mixed in that are wreaking havoc. 403 is interesting ... what are the perms on your doc root directory? Jon /home/brasto ls -al www/ total 79836 drwsrwsr-x 16 brasto apache 4096 Feb 24 09:20 . snip For config files: # ls -al /etc/httpd/conf.d/ total 36 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 13 12:18 . drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Feb 16 15:24 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 674 Nov 20 10:26 php.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 566 Nov 12 16:47 proxy_ajp.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 392 Nov 12 16:47 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9677 Nov 12 16:47 ssl.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 298 Feb 12 22:58 welcome.conf The only thing I found that might be related is welcome.conf, which probably explains why I get the page served that I do for the 403. It only has this (commented lines excluded): LocationMatch ^/+$ Options Indexes ErrorDocument 403 /error/noindex.html /LocationMatch Thank you for your help. Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Managed Hosts
On 02/08/2010 11:47 PM, Daniel C. wrote: On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Clint Savage her...@gmail.com wrote: I personally use linode I love Linode so much I wish I could upvote it twice. I was about to bring up this same topic. I've been a Verio reseller for a little while, but I've decided to close that business and part from Verio since their servers just don't compete anymore, even at reseller rates. Add to that the fact that even their newest vps's are old, I want to move on. I've looked at Linode since others here have brought them up. This also came up: http://www.tektonic.net/vps.php Has anyone used Tektonic? They seem to be offering more than Linode for less. Can anyone compare them to Linode? Are there other good VPS products some of you recommend? Brandon ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] [On Topic - Trust me] Disneyland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I took my kids to Disneyland in August. We saw many amazing things. Among my favorites was Goofy. I've always loved Goofy. We saw many Disney characters, and even some Star Wars characters. However, only a true PHP Geek could truly appreciate the family reunion t-shirts I saw that happened to be lined up in just the right order. You can meet Darths Vader and Maul at Disneyland, but not many people get to see PHP there... http://gallery.flfn.org/main.php?g2_itemId=4139 Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqdtvwACgkQx0pgn74qrcJ7YwCfQ/bM7/Dl8sZteMggtj8tNaw0 6/oAnRT3SDwdEANDkaG08k6J1XVK11o/ =aYRN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Looking for opportunities
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Friends, I've taken a month off to grieve and recover after the passing of my wife. While it's only the beginning of my recovery, I feel ready to work again. Indeed, I think I'll go crazy if I can't get away to a workplace sometime soon. I'm looking for work as a Linux system admin first, or a PHP developer second. I have a resume posted here: http://res.mscis.org/ If any of you know a place that is hiring for this type of work, I appreciate a referral. I'm eager to return to the workplace and start providing for my 4 children again. Brandon Stout -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqPAC4ACgkQx0pgn74qrcILfwCeJzeFE5dcbaQOGtTXcyWQ8vLs LRUAnizwevWtL0TlJhJxmSVi05+gy6UG =ZxpA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Funeral announcement
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For those of you who know me who have not already heard, my wife Julie's two-year battle with a cancerous brain tumor ended last Sunday. I wrote about her passing here: http://flfn.org/blog/brasto/julie-stout-free And I posted the obituary here: http://flfn.org/blog/brasto/julies-obituary I've been busy caring for her, and thus less involved in this channel over the past few months. Soon, I'll likely be a more regular participant again, and I'm looking forward to it. Thank you to all of you who have shown your support to us. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpnTi0ACgkQx0pgn74qrcI+IQCfS3geq+c/OsTqQNm1hK7gRSuV wsAAoL5U3wWG7DVKYgydZB8F4UUnyLoG =mGIX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] white space between divs
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MilesTogoe wrote:
now I'm getting white space between divs - I've tried a number of
fixes (ie *{margin:0}, p{margin 0;}, padding: 1px;
overflow:hidden;) but none of these seem to work - at least in
firefox, konqueror, arora(webkit). It especially seens to happen
with clear: both;
have any of you css fans had and solved this problem ? or is it
just the straw that's breaking the camel's back (css frustration)
and driving me back to tables ?
Put no white space between the divs when you want no white space
between them:
/divdiv
Then you'll have no white space between them. This is completely
cross-browser compatible, too :).
Brandon
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Re: [UPHPU] white space between divs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 MilesTogoe wrote: I think that is an issue but goes against neat indented coding: div id=whatever pstuff/p !-- spaces instead of tabs -- /div yea, I don't like messing with the neat indented coding either, but sometimes I've had to do it with img tags to get rid of space between the images. Fortunately, they self-close. When I have to do div/div to remove space between divs, I've done it something like this: div pThat was my first div/p /divdiv pHere's my second div/p /div/div !-- etcetera to last div -- /div So it's almost the same thing. I kinda like that more anyway, honestly. At least it has a close tag. Since img is self-closing, it can get ugly when you want to wrap at 80 characters yet keep multiple img tags next to each other without any space between them. Maybe you'll find a better solution though, if you send Wade and Velda a sample page. If they can't fix something css, nobody can. Praise given this time free of charge. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkowNcgACgkQx0pgn74qrcLnxQCbBYhNRYhcnQ3sVxEoUGR7V+e/ HEEAnR/9a3kQzYLGi7jyCUkuMuxKNhqQ =2yF0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Lossless jpg operations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brandon Stout wrote: I sent this message to SLLUG and have not had any responses yet. Since UPHPU is the best UG out there, I probably ought to have asked here first, but I generally try to keep my questions here on web based stuff, and this question is for a Linux-based app. Some operations on jpg files can be done lossless-ly. Rotating is one of them. I've used gwenview for what I think is lossless jpg operations since when I rotate images, they do not change in file size at all when other applications, such as Gimp will change the file size. I've run into a problem though. When I look at my camera images, gwenview auto-rotates them from the exif data. Most other programs do not do this auto-rotation, including Gallery, which I use to put the pictures on the web. I'd prefer to not let gwenview rotate the images so I can fix the file so all apps can see the picture the right way. However, gwenview does not seem to have a setting for it. Actually, gwenview has almost nothing in the settings I can configure - at least through the gui, only background color, transparent background, and mouse wheel behavior. There may be a way to manually configure it in ~/.kde4/share/config/gwenviewrc , but that still leaves me with a problem. If I rotate the file, the exif data may then throw off apps that still use the exif information. Now my question: Is there a simple Linux tool that lets me losslessly rotate a camera image, and change the exif 'orientation' tag - hopefully at once? I'd like it to be in the gui, because I don't see much use in changing from a gui, which I need to see the picture in the first place, to a terminal to run a command, then back to a gui which would then need a refresh. However, if cli is the only way, I'll give it a try. Brandon For anyone that wants to know, I found that you can still rotate with gwenview, and it will change the orientation exif tag while rotating. You just have to make the Orientation tag show on the right side, and anything that says 'right' rotate to the right, and anything that says 'left', rotate to the left. The picture will show up sideways, but save it anyway and refresh. You'll find the picture losslessly rotated. However, I've once again proven myself wrong and found that cli is still faster. There's no need to look at every picture to see if they are sideways when the exif tag tells you anyway. I found exiftran has an option to auto-rotate any pictures according to the exif orientation tag and then fix the tag so it properly shows the correct new orientation. Here's the command: exiftran -agip Pictures/Some/Folder/* The -a is for automatically detecting the rotation. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkosnDwACgkQx0pgn74qrcJdgQCfUbg9LqFByFU7c6WwAekfCvmg OmIAoIl4w4h+tJ01HNt+9QXjWODc3Gfj =uCYJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Lossless jpg operations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I sent this message to SLLUG and have not had any responses yet. Since UPHPU is the best UG out there, I probably ought to have asked here first, but I generally try to keep my questions here on web based stuff, and this question is for a Linux-based app. Some operations on jpg files can be done lossless-ly. Rotating is one of them. I've used gwenview for what I think is lossless jpg operations since when I rotate images, they do not change in file size at all when other applications, such as Gimp will change the file size. I've run into a problem though. When I look at my camera images, gwenview auto-rotates them from the exif data. Most other programs do not do this auto-rotation, including Gallery, which I use to put the pictures on the web. I'd prefer to not let gwenview rotate the images so I can fix the file so all apps can see the picture the right way. However, gwenview does not seem to have a setting for it. Actually, gwenview has almost nothing in the settings I can configure - - at least through the gui, only background color, transparent background, and mouse wheel behavior. There may be a way to manually configure it in ~/.kde4/share/config/gwenviewrc , but that still leaves me with a problem. If I rotate the file, the exif data may then throw off apps that still use the exif information. Now my question: Is there a simple Linux tool that lets me losslessly rotate a camera image, and change the exif 'orientation' tag - hopefully at once? I'd like it to be in the gui, because I don't see much use in changing from a gui, which I need to see the picture in the first place, to a terminal to run a command, then back to a gui which would then need a refresh. However, if cli is the only way, I'll give it a try. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkopd/0ACgkQx0pgn74qrcL69wCfb/r+CkudQobQ1aMYQNjNc3je RGwAn3eIixfARyvnaxJrPj6SeoeiVLNO =ondo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Lossless jpg operations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Thornock wrote: jhead can rotate images losslessly (I believe it uses jpegtran to do this), based on EXIF data. http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/jhead/ Alternatively, someone posted a shell script to rotate images losslessly with jpegtran based on EXIF data, at: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t244613-imagemagick-and-lossless-jpeg-rotation.html I believe imagemagick can as well. I've been using exiftran which also uses jpegtran. It's fairly simple for cli. I usually run this: exiftran -agip Pictures/Some/Folder/somefile.jpg It auto-rotates the file according to the exif orientation tag, and then changes the tag properly all-at-once. However, I still hope there's a gui tool, or a way to use gwenview. The gnome product gthumb has the same problem as gwenview - it auto-rotates, and there's no setting to dis-allow it. This: 1. Open gui 2. Find a sideways picture 3. Open terminal and run commands to fix it 4. Go back to gui tool and refresh to make sure it rotated right Has got to be slower than this: 1. Open gui tool 2. Find a sideways picture 3. Click rotate button 4. Click save On a side note, it looks like gwenview also uses jpegtran. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoqAMAACgkQx0pgn74qrcI//wCdGIdl/4/MEo5H+1ospWqgzT83 SusAn0t71qyIVC7ufRhzTP2KpJa7bBlV =k80v -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Lossless jpg operations
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Hart wrote: What linux distro are you running? /me braces for a distro war OpenSuse 11.1 However if there's a product unavailable in this distro by default and available in another, and it's a gui tool that can do what I want, I'm happy to try compiling from source to try it out. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkoqAf4ACgkQx0pgn74qrcLimACdGjV60+oEA/vPUaUoWRgQPSzt 7rMAn0jbdXzPvvOVmPUjkPsYZfKdossR =wv2r -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] httpd.conf RedirectPermanent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lonnie Olson wrote: How much money have you cost your employer already researching this issue? Good summary Lonnie. I think I'll switch to mod_rewrite after all. Fortunately, I haven't cost the employer anything researching this issue. I asked these questions on my own time for my own personal desire to know what other people do. This was a good discussion, thank you to all who participated. If there's more anyone wants to say, I'm still listening, too :). Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkneVoYACgkQx0pgn74qrcIAMwCfUPoSX2hl1J6ijjUf9Ym97U+U qJQAoL1OC0XNS5yg7fzHleNvTBHiiIWX =u07A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] httpd.conf RedirectPermanent
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've had a couple discussions on IRC about this, and I'd like to expand this discussion to more of you. Here's something I see many people do: VirtualHost *:80 ServerName example.com ServerAlias www.example.com [*.example.com [other.example.domain]] [other directives] /VirtualHost This creates at least these problems: * Google and other search engines see multiple sites with exactly the same content. Maybe this reduces your search rank. * SSL either gets more expensive, or screwed up. If you have multiple domains for the same site, then you must have a certificate for each domain. This would not be expensive if CAcerts.org and other free certificate authorities were recognized authorities, but they are not. So you must purchase a certificate for every domain you list in ServerAlias. A wildcard certificate which can be /wildly/ expensive (pardon the pun). If you don't pay for the extra certs, you must let your customers deal with errors saying the domain is using a certificate for another domain. * Some coders use full paths for link and script tags, and I've seen this break a site with multiple domains. As I see it, any time you have a ServerAlias, you should instead use RedirectPermanent, unless you are also redirecting the ServerAlias. Naturally, you can't put the redirect in the same virtual host because you'd create an infinite loop with the main server redirecting back to itself. Thus, I do this: VirtualHost *:80 ServerName example.com [other directives] /VirtualHost VirtualHost *:80 Server Name www.example.com [ServerAlias *.example.com [other.example.domain]] RedirectPermanent / http://example.com/ /VirtualHost Some of you might notice that you can do the same with DocumentRewrite, but I prefer RedirectPermanent for straight domain redirecting because: * It sends the appropriate signal to whatever is requesting the domain, saying that this is a permanent thing. * It requires less processing * It's almost certainly faster * There's less coding involved I also have a couple of personal reasons for redirecting in general, whatever the method: * It's my private retribution to people who don't listen. If I say 'mscis.org', I mean 'mscis.org', not 'www.mscis.org'. People who type the www in front get the www taken away. The only improvement would be for a voice recording to say did I say to put 'www' in front? Let me fix it for you. * People should lose the www in front of all domains. The fact that they are asking for the domain on port 80 or 443 means they are seeking for web content. You don't need the www to tell the server to give web content. Perhaps a few cases call for enforcing the www, but I think most cases, you can throw them out. Either way, I can force it to go the way I need it to go. The exception, where you might want to use DocumentRewrite instead of RedirectPermanent is perhaps SSL domain redirecting (VirtualHost *:443) because you have to include the certificate information for the domain you want to forward, even it's just a RedirectPermanent. There's also another potential problem. If client software does it's own redirecting, and you do the opposite redirect in httpd.conf, you will end up with an infinite redirect loop that might be hard to find, especially if the client software stores the domain information in a database (like Wordpress does). Those are my thoughts on the matter. I'd like to see what some of you have to say about RedirectPermanent usage. Are my premises for using it all accurate? Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkna5MkACgkQx0pgn74qrcK/JQCeIvAfKunUQ2j4bYCk+VGkcEM7 v+QAnii608HNE5LuhRNN5n/T+FhL14jV =EJQr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU on Twitter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jim wrote: UPHPU Twitter can be found at http://twitter.com/uphpu and please I can get to that URL, but there's no link to follow the group. I can click 'following' and 'followers' (whatever the difference is between those two...), and those links give me a list of thinbegin who is following and 7 people who are followers, and each of them have a link where I can follow them, but there's no link to follow the group. Did I miss it somewhere? Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknOpvQACgkQx0pgn74qrcL2TQCgoqPefW0Fj15X3msXVSv+ULxJ 7ekAmwVVvHFMvDqmmsa2Bjt3Z0Yeedt7 =wtpd -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] CSS drop down menu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Velda wrote: It's all about Son of Suckerfish from HTML dog. http://htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ Yay! We haven't had a CSS drop down menu discussion in months! I've been wondering what is new out there that people have tried. I've done suckerfish dropdowns, and Son of Suckerfish, among others, and the one I like most so far is Son of Suckerfish, though I'd really like to see support for infinite child menus. I hope we have some new suggestions here, too. Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmc+LsACgkQx0pgn74qrcLyHgCdGxxFuvT+A1nMGLXzs00zEf3e T4kAnR7WYe9zDcQGDp5XB2aZVe/FrmxL =vFpn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] cakephp questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 First a couple questions now that we had a meeting about cakephp. When I looked at it a few months ago, I was surprised to see that they were still writing their product for PHP 4, and the documentation stated they did not plan to support PHP 5 since 'most people are still using PHP 4' (loosely quoted). Since PHP 5 has been out a few years, I thought that was pretty lame, and went with Kohana ( http://kohanaphp.com ). Since then, Mac Newbold mentioned to me that cakephp had a beta product that does support PHP 5. Now my questions: * If it supports both PHP 4 and 5, does it take advantage sufficiently of PHP 5 OOP? * Is there a lot of bloat since you have to sometimes do the same thing two different ways: the PHP 4 way and the PHP 5 way? It seems that an application should support one or the other, not both at the same time for that reason. * Are there any Kohana PHP users out there that prefer one over the other, and if so, what? Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklwJEUACgkQx0pgn74qrcKbIACgnm2NtoKE0EZQJNR48aAYQnSU FFMAn2hsP5gcg5I/TKotUustE+zkdPS7 =AHLa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] Looking for work...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm currently unemployed. Most of my experience is system administration related, but I haven't landed anything yet. I enjoyed having Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas months off. I hope it's the last time for many years I get to enjoy that much time off. I've done some web programming, but I'm not a fast programmer yet. I'm looking to expand my skillset since I'm not getting a system administrator position. I enjoy a little mix of both web programming and system admin anyway. I'm also getting tired of using Drupal for some of my sites, and having many plug ins to do what I want, having to keep them all updated, and having them not work like I want them to. I want to replace my Drupal sites with code I write from scratch. I might start with cakephp, kohana PHP, or something else. Thus, I'm sending this email for two reasons: 1. Is there anyone else that would like to work with me at a library, or anywhere with wireless on a weekly basis to build websites, and to improve your web development? I like working in teams, so I'd love to work with anyone that would like to do this. Hopefully we can get a handful of us. Email me or call the number in my resume if you are interested. 2. If you are hiring, or know someone who is hiring, please let me know, and review my resume at http://res.mscis.org . My first consideration is medical benefits for my family. I must have good medical and dental. I'll forgo this requirement for any company that pays me $150,000 or more per year :). Thank you, Brandon Stout http://mscis.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklwKQsACgkQx0pgn74qrcIoUgCfYsJBp0fVUwhBh810mQwPM0Am T9EAn1KDf8CRN3jd+Y+lK4XziMqGvRxX =QGgs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] specifying with row is displayed when using MySQL GROUP BY
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wade Preston Shearer wrote: Well, if it can be improved, I'd love to improve it: SELECT pt.*, LPAD(pt.pt_id, 6, '0') as pt_id_padded, pm.pm_name, pv.pv_name FROM ixd_prodir.prodir_prototypes pt INNER JOIN ixd_prodir.prodir_modules pm ON pt.pt_module=pm.pm_id INNER JOIN ixd_prodir.prodir_prototypes_to_versions ptve ON pt.pt_id=ptve.ptve_pt_id INNER JOIN ixd_prodir.prodir_versions pv ON ptve.ptve_pv_id=pv.pv_id WHERE pt.pt_pj_id=1 GROUP BY pt.pt_id ORDER BY pt.pt_name asc Have you tried SELECT DISTINCT instead of GROUP BY? Brandon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklufnQACgkQx0pgn74qrcL43wCcDj25PUAMagKGT+C5SlQgehiQ uWoAn0ar+kVz6pVV1JKrojMefwm3sj5z =dHzM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] How do I make so that my PHP application running on apache can read php modules not in htdocs?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nathan Lane wrote: How do I make so that my PHP application running on apache can read php modules not in htdocs? Basically I want to secure my php modules away from the user. Is that something I need to set up in the apache conf file? Look for the include_path directive in your php.ini file. Place files in the path, or add another path and put files there. Use include, include_once, require, or require_once from a file inside htdocs and use relative paths from that include directory. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkCLKEACgkQx0pgn74qrcKI4wCguS2EjqzsZB+dOueHY8bcT87M MmQAoIVJEx8PjQX5bV6JUUXrnERkUBID =343g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] database architecture for type with 2 parents
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Richard gets this three times since I kept using the wrong email address
to send my reply sorry Richard.
Richard K Miller wrote:
| Here's a database architecture question:
|
| I have a domain table (google.com, byu.edu, etc.) and a subdomain
| table (fakesteve.blogspot.com, dev.mysql.com, etc.) A subset of the
| domains and subdomains are my sites (richardkmiller.com,
| richardkmiller.wordpress.com) and have additional attributes that don't
| need to be stored for all domains and subdomains.
|
| What's the best practice for creating a mysites table that is composed
| of both a subset of domains and a subset of subdomains? Here's what I
| have:
|
| CREATE TABLE `mysites` (
| `id` int(12) NOT NULL auto_increment,
| `type` enum('domain','subdomain'),
| `fk_id` int(12),
| `hosting` varchar(24),
| PRIMARY KEY (`id`),
| KEY `fk_id` (`fk_id`)
| ) ENGINE=MyISAM DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8;
|
| When type=domain, fk_id is a foreign key to the domain table. When
| type=subdomain, fk_id refers to the subdomain table. This has a
| hacky feel that I don't like. Also, if I create a VIEW of my sites, I
| can't edit it because the VIEW contains a UNION:
|
| CREATE VIEW `mysitesview` as
| SELECT mysites.id, type, domain AS site, hosting, fk_id
| FROM domain JOIN mysites
| ON domain.id = mysites.fk_id AND type = domain
| UNION
| SELECT mysites.id, type, subdomain AS site, hosting, fk_id
| FROM subdomain JOIN mysites
| ON subdomain.id = mysites.fk_id AND type =subdomain;
|
| Any thoughts? How could I do this better?
|
| Richard
I have a couple questions on your design:
~ 1. I can see a few reasons for having separate domains and subdomains
tables, but I can also see why one might want both to be in one table
since subdomains are really also domains in themselves. What's your
reason for separating the two?
~ 2. Can you put the two tables together without breaking anything, or
violating something you need normalized that way?
Now for a quick suggestion. Something like this might work (definitely
check that if clause):
CREATE VIEW `mysitesview` AS
SELECT
~ mysites.id,
~ type,
~ if(type=domain,domain,subdomain) as site,
~ hosting,
~ fk_id
FROM mysites
~ LEFT JOIN domain ON mysites.fk_id = domain.id AND type = domain
~ LEFT JOIN subdomain ON mysites.fk_id = subdomain.id AND type =
subdomain;
Or maybe you can use a subquery in there. If you have some sample data
dumps I can test this on, I may have time to test a few ideas.
Brandon Stout
UDBUG Admin
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[UPHPU] Geographic Web Stats?
I currently use Urchin, which is now Google Analytics for web stats. A client would like to track Geographic data. I explained a little on how Geographic data is not very accurate since the Internet uses IP addresses rather than geography. There are /some/ apps that track Geographic data based on wherever certain IP addresses /should/ be geographically. What do you use to track Geographic stats? Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Photo cataloging/tagging software
D. Turnbull wrote: Hello all, I've just started work at a human-resources nonprofit, and we have a a large number of photographs that are largely unorganized. Can anyone recommend any photo cataloging/tagging software? Our needs are as follows: * Multiple tags per photo with ability to search tags * Build photo database by scanning directory structure; add photos by saving to directory structure (instead of requiring upload via web form) * Multiple users accounts, with system tracking user changes * GUI administration * Thumbnail/gallery display for albums I'm currently experimenting with Gallery, but I'd like to know if any of you have recommendations. Regards, Dave I'm pretty sure Gallery can do all these things. A Google I'm feeling lucky search will get there, but here's a direct URL anyway: http://gallery.menalto.com/ Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] How do you lay out your PHP project directories?
Nathan Lane wrote: Hey, I was messing around with an IDE for developing PHP the other day named Delphi For PHP. I noticed pretty quickly that it was adding some of its own PHP libraries and using them, but those libraries weren't located in the root of my web server, rather they were located in a directory completely separate from my Apache web root. How does one accomplish this? Namely use PHP files not in your web root. We do it in ASP.Net at my work, where we have a service host that resides under Program Files, and the web root for the particular IIS ASP.Net application is located under the IIS web root. Is it something that I have to change in my apache config, or my php config to do this? Can anyone help me do this? Basically the reason I want to do this is to separate my framework from my web page, so that it is simpler to use the same installed framework (php) for multiple sites on the same server, or set of servers. You can use php.ini's include_path directive as shown on this page: http://www.php.net/configuration Or you can specify a full server path with require(), require_once(), include(), or include_once(), as shown on this page: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.require.php You can also use __autoload and other Object Oriented methods to load php files outside the web root. Brandon Stout http://stouthosting.com ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] UDBUG Mail List
I'm sending this to PLUG, UPHPU, GUBUG, and BYUUUG. If someone could send this on to other user groups that might have interest we at UDBUG appreciate it. I've decided to use Google Groups for the UDBUG mail list. It has several features already in place, and it leaves me with one less thing to manage on the server side. If it doesn't work well, I'll probably go with mailman - out of the mail list programs I tested, it's the one I'd go with. Perhaps we can write a database-driven mail list sometime as a group, but I'm betting Google Groups will work well enough. I sent an invitation to myself so I could get the text from the invitation and forward it. I'll wait a few days and then start a topic about March's meeting, so please join the mail list soon if you'd like to participate in that discussion. Now for the invitation: -- Google Groups Information -- You can accept this invitation by clicking the following URL: http://groups.google.com/group/udbug/ Access to the group on the web requires a Google Account. If you don't have a Google Account set up yet, you'll first need to create an account before you can access the group. You can create an account at: http://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount Thank you all for your support. Brandon Stout http://udbug.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU February Meeting
Victor Villa wrote: Greets UPHPU, For February's meeting we are going to have a combined UPHPU / UDBUG (Utah Database Users Group) where UDBUG will be presenting. Some possible topics include: - mysql - postgres - SQLite - sql hierarchy and use php to convert it to xhtml ul's - PDO Write back and mention which topic you'd like to hear, or write in your own suggestion! mj/v Just to clarify a little, the SQL hierarchy presentation might be titled something like: Storing and Retrieving Hierarchical Data in a Database With PHP If you want this topic, I'd cover this article: http://dev.mysql.com/tech-resources/articles/hierarchical-data.html And discuss how to use PHP's mysqli (MySQL Improved) extension to connect to the database and retrieve the hierarchy in a list format, like navigation menu on http://mscis.org . The presentation is MySQL tiered, but one can apply the same basic concepts to other database engines as well. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] eCommerce - what do you use?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Scott Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've read about RIAs using AJAX. I have also used PHP to implement a web service. Could you enlighten a little more on how your RIA will work with PHP as a service? Is it a web service? Would you use SOAP or JSON? Sorry to pester but I'm curious. Great questions all. Because AJAX has javascript that is easily exposed to the client, it's definitely less secure. Logging in through a Flex app is tucked away nicely. The short answer on PHP is to return an XML string. If you already have a SOAP or JSON service available, just use it. The other choice is to use PHPAMF and exchange the data in binary. Here's some docs that give some more details: http://blogs.adobe.com/mikepotter/2006/02/flex_and_php_us.html http://blogs.adobe.com/mikepotter/Flex%20and%20PHP%20060201.pdf http://api.renaun.com/max2007/ra101h_RenaunErickson_excerpt.pdf And as a nice marketing business case for RIAs, check out: http://www.inm.com/resource-center/en/white-paper/INM-RIA-Primer.pdf -- Cole Are there any existing PHP-based RIA ecommerce solutions? Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] eCommerce - what do you use?
My chief complaints: 1. It's much less customize-friendly than any software I've used. Many of the things that normally go in a database they place in files. These files naturally will get over-written on a site upgrade, so to avoid that, you have to create an 'override' file. Thus customizing Zencart becomes a nightmare - some settings go in the database, others to files. You have to check documentation to find where to customize each thing - is it the database this time, or a file? It's probably still fairly simple to do, but I have very limited web development time available right now. 2. I couldn't get the override files to work, so I customized the source, every patch I install a patch I install will overwrite my changes. The You've successfully installed... message will return. Sales message goes here will return. These things go in the database, not files. 3. Also, they don't resize images on the server. They send full-sized images to the client and have the browser resize the image. You end up with a tiny thumbnail that takes a full minute to load... My client wants to customize these things: 1. Custom text on the home page, not just products - probably something like a welcome message. 2. Larger Category images - they want something like a galery of images to show their custom wall art actually on a wall. Hard to see this in a 56-pixel-wide image. 3. Links to other sites. 4. Keyword SEO. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC Caleb Call wrote: I forgot to Reply-All so here it is again :-) I've been using ZenCart for quite some time and have been quite happy with it. It does take a fair amount of tweaking to optimize it but once it's optimized I don't have any complaints. What kind of customizing? I always found it quite simple to customize??? ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] eCommerce - what do you use?
jay wrote: Brandon I have had great success with cpCommerce - I needed something light and very configurable for a client. cpCommerce allows you to pick and choose the modules that you want to include. My client had a very specific page layout in mind (nothing like the 'usual' eCommerce site) which I produced and then just plugged in the module calls where required. It has a few quirks like requiring a manufacturer for each item (my client was the manufacturer, so this was not required) but overall very easy to implement. What are your criteria? jay My client would like future credit card transaction and paypal ability, of course, with that, they want a shopping cart. They want a home page that can have custom content, and some the things I mentioned in my response to Caleb Call. I'd like something they can maintain with the web gui so I don't have to do special jobs for them every time they want something changed - something impossible with Zencart since some of its settings are in 'Override files'. Anyone can view their site: http://creataview.com They'd like a look-and-feel similar to art.com. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] eCommerce - what do you use?
velda wrote: Brandon Stout wrote: PHP friends, I was fairly sold on Zencart from my Google searches, but as some of you may have noted, I'm not completely satisfied with it. If I find someone to help customize it, perhaps I'll go that route, but maybe there are eCommerce packages some of you recommend over Zencart. What do some of you use, and why? I'd say the vast majority of my cart clients so far have preferred x-cart -- it's robust enough to fit most stores needs out of the box, it has paid support (so you don't have to patiently rely on the kindness of others if you're having difficult issues). Not only does it do almost anything you'd ever need a store to do, but you're also able to tweak the code as you'd like, create custom modules, purchase modules made by other providers, etc. It uses smarty templates for skinning... the webmaster mode is handy for editing language and layout. They also have a big, friendly online community (for license owners only). And because its a popular cart that does pretty well, many hosting companies (like ours but I won't spam our link unless you want it) offer a discount on the license with hosting. On the down side, X-cart does like lots of elbow room. Some add-on modules and combinations of modules can make it a resource hog. I've had a few people get frustrated with it, particularly with applying updates or troubleshooting heavy resource usage after heavy modification, but we do find more people having success with it than with other carts. I have a handful of clients using CS-cart, and they love it. I don't know much about it other than its supposed to be a side-step to x-cart, and is supposedly easier to update after modifications. Litecommerce (by the makers of X-cart) is another popular option, but I hate it on many levels... for one thing, it's rarely an out-of-the-box solution -- people have to add on extra modules to just make a basic cart. On top of that, the code is encrypted. As a host, due to myriad of add-on combinations people end up with just trying to run a simple store, the configurations vary widely from site to site. This makes it a bear to troubleshoot. Zencart is fine; OS Commerce and Cubecart less so, but most of our customers who us any of those end up converting to x-cart eventually. Magento is the up and coming super cart in the open source community. I have high hopes for it, but I'm not going to start recommending it yet... alot can happen between beta and release ;-p Anyway I hope that helps.. I'm kinda cranky and tired tonight - just made a major software switch over here - but if you have questions about all this feel free to ask. I'm sure I'll be more agreeable by Monday... maybe Tuesday ;-) Take care ... -Velda You've made a great case for X-cart. I'll read up on this one more. Do they store settings using override files that ought to be in the database (where clients can modify the settings with the admin GUI instead of always reverting to a webmaster for these changes? Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] UDBUG's February Meeting Combined With UPHPU
I erroneously announced UDBUGs February meeting would be on the fourth Thursday in February. Actually, we are having a combined meeting with UPHPU. I'll post details on UDBUG soon. When I do, you can find it here: http://udbug.org/event The details will also be on UPHPU.org: http://uphpu.org/events/ We will discuss PHP and SQL in this combined meeting. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] UDBUG - Call for presenters, and topics
I'm still working on a mail list for UDBUG. In fact, the next UDBUG announcement will probably announce the mail list. I have 4 kids who need my attention, slowing UDBUG development a little more than I anticipated, but... 'if we build it, they will come', right? I've been informed that the .NET and Python user groups meet the 2nd Tuesday of each month. Since some of these may also have interest in UDBUG, we'll try the fourth Thursday in February. This brings me to the next topic: we need volunteers to present on various database related topics. Please respond if you wish to present on a topic or two list all the topics you'd like to present on. I'd like to see at least one presentation for a few of the major database servers and clients out there. Brandon Stout UDBUG Admin Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Web page data extraction
Mike Mackrory wrote: I have an interesting question. I wrote an Access application a year or two ago that I'm looking at rewriting as a web app. One thing I'm not sure I can move over to a web app is a tool I put together to let the users extract data from web pages. In the Access App, I open a browser window, they can log into the secure site, find the page with the data they need, then click a button and the program then takes the HTML source, parses out the necessary info and then loads it into the local database. Does anyone know if this is possible to do using PHP or JavaScript. Using an IFrame would be perfect, but since the site they want to extract the info from is on a different domain this doesn't appear to be possible. Anyone have any idea's of how I could do this? The big obstacle is just finding a way to get the source code of the web page being viewed. Thanks Mike In addition to the things others have suggested, PHP can interface with various databases, like MySQL, PostgreSQL, and SQLite. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Database Conventions
Ray Hunter wrote: - allow lowercase letters with underscores as spaces I personally like names that don't use the underscore. Instead, capitalize the first letter of the second word. The underscore character is way overused in programming and database design. Left-pinkey-hit-shift, Right-lazy-finger up 2 rows was never meant to be used so much. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Database Conventions
Jonathan Duncan wrote: That would be a good topic for UDBUG: http://udbug.org/ I agree. We can throw this into our discussion tomorrow evening if anyone is interested. Otherwise, any volunteers for next months topic? If there's a large enough interest? We don't have a mail list on udbug yet. Registered members can post content, and hopefully it's database related. Tomorrow's topic: database design. http://udbug.org/event/2008/01/10/day Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] First UDBUG Meeting
Soon we will have our own mail list. Until then, please forgive my cross-posts. About UDBUG: UDBUG is the Utah Database Users Group - a community for database (db) users and administrators to discuss, and compare favorite db servers, db clients, and general ideas common to all db programs, such as SQL. UDBUG will have chapters for the specific databases that members can join. We will hold our UDBUG meetings the second Thursday of every month. Thus, the first UDBUG meeting will be January 10th. I will discuss database design and normalization rules. You can view details on this page: http://udbug.org/event/2008/01/10/day You can also subscribe to the RSS or ICS feed. RSS: http://udbug.org/event/feed ICS: http://udbug.org/event/ical/all/all Please send your RSVP to me via personal email. Send your questions or comments to me or to the list, whichever you prefer. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was guessing it was 95th percentile but the quote didn't mention it. I'll look into a dedicated/managed server and see if I can find something at a reasonable price. This server won't be just for websites, email, databases, etc. I'd like to have more control over the server than you can with shared hosting so I can use it for subversion, cvs, etc. Our VPS products are not like shared hosting. It's a virtual server, and you can install most of the things available in the freebsd ports collection, including cvs, svn, etc. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Utah Colocation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a colocation host here in the Salt Lake City (Layton and further north is fine). I've looked at a few places but most are too expensive. The server won't have a lot of traffic so preferably I'd like something under $100 a month. I've found a couple places that I like the price but I want to see what others would recommend. Thanks, Eric I'm not sure what you mean by colocation, but if you are looking for web hosting, I own Stout Hosting LLC and I can provide hosting on enterprise class server clusters with MySQL 5 or Postgres, and PHP 5 for much less than $100, depending on your needs. Send me an email for details. Send me your phone number if you'd like a call. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] FW: Geek Lunch this Friday - New event afterwards! - Dec 14th @ 12:30p Shanghai Lunch
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: This week’s lesson They hold these Lunch-n-Learn sessions weekly? Are they gratis? Are they always after lunch on Fridays? Do they have a calendar? is being taught by the Code Greene design team to talk about Graphic Design. Who is on their graphic design team? And if I can't make both events, what time does the Code Greene lesson take place? I can make one or the other, but probably not both. Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] OpenOffice.org Conference 2008 - Call for Location... In Utah?
I'd love to see this come to Utah County or Salt Lake County, and I think we have a large enough Open Source support/interest to pull this off with success. I've even thought up a slogan: We did the 2002 Olympics, we can do OOOcon, too! OK, maybe some of you have a better slogan... send it! I can't do something this big myself, but I can help a group like UOS make it so. Can someone at UOS send this idea to some of the other OSS communities? Brandon Stout Stout Hosting LLC Original Message Subject:[ooo-announce] OpenOffice.org Annual Conference 2008 - Call for Location Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 12:35:01 - (GMT) From: John McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The OpenOffice.org Community eagerly awaits its next annual international conference, OOoCon. We are looking for engaged and interested groups to host next year's conference and welcome your proposals. Since the first conference in 2003, OOoCon has been held in Germany, Slovenia, France, and Spain - could your local OpenOffice.org community rise to the challenge in 2008? Hosting OOoCon is challenging, rewarding, exhilarating, exhausting... and can provide a huge publicity boost for OpenOffice.org in the host country. Traditionally, OOoCon takes place in autumn/fall, but there is no fixed date. Would your team like to rise the challenge? Full details of the Call For Location process are available on the website http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/cfl.html and the conference organisers' mailing list is open for discussions at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You can get impressions of previous conferences at http://marketing.openoffice.org/conference Deadline for submissions is midnight, January 31st, 2008. Thank you and good luck with your proposals! The OpenOffice.org Conference Team ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] jQuery and Opera Bug
Craig Jackson wrote:
You guys are very helpful, so I am coming to you with this problem I cannot
figure out a solution for. Usually the reliable communities have addressed my
issues, but I could not find any helpful info.
In Opera, I have a major layout crisis just from one line of jQuery.
$(ul#blogs).hide();
If that line is taken out, the layout loads exactly how I want it to. But,
then the list loads shown. I want the list of blogs hidden onload. However, I
want them to toggle on and off with the click of a link.
$(a#showblogs).click(function() {
$(ul#blogs).toggle();
return false;
});
I threw together a menu to give you an idea of what I want the HTML to be:
div id=menu
ul
lia href=index.htmlHome/a/li
lia href=index.htmlPortfolio/a/li
lia id=showblogs href=blogs.htmlBlogs/a
ul id=blogs
lia href=index.htmlBlog 1/a/li
lia href=index.htmlBlog 2/a/li
/ul
/li
lia href=index.htmlAbout Me/a/li
lia href=index.htmlContact Me/a/li
/ul
/div
There is no problem with viewing this in IE or Firefox. Plus, when you click
an index.html link (refreshing itself), then Opera loads the layout in a
correct fashion. Im sure it is a simple mistake that is just lapsing my mind.
Thanks for the help,
Craig Jackson
The only thing that comes to mind for me is this: Make sure that you do
not use id=menu, id=showblogs, or id=blogs for any element
anywhere else on that page. Personally, I'd use class=menu and so
forth instead of id attributes so you can reuse it.
Brandon Stout
http://mscis.org
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[UPHPU] Re: NAT vs IPv6 was: Genetically coded website
Lonnie Olson wrote: Brandon is right here. In general limiting by IP is a bad idea. However in your (intended) small experiment I think limiting by IP would be a quick, easy, legitimate way to get past your initial problem. Now, just to ignore Brandon's warning... NAT vs IPv6! That controversy is total crap. The only argument for the NAT side is laziness. NAT proponents say that we already have a solution, and don't need to make any changes (laziness). Sometimes they say that there are no providers, which is caused by these lazy people themselves. IPv6 is the future. China is already deploying it widely, and even the US Government has mandated the change. --lonnie Go Lonnie! I agree totally. Japan and other countries are picking up IP v6. In fact, there are a few websites you cannot access without IP v6. Nothing significant yet, for most of us anyway, but there are a few. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Genetically coded website
Justin Giboney wrote: Thank you Victor for your kind, and professional response. Sorry, if I offended anyone. I didn't want to necessarily incriminate anyone. I just wanted to kind of find out if someone had any theories on doing this test, or thoughts behind it. If they did it for research than I am all for it. I know that this wasn't secure, or protected from bots, or really malicious persons. I thought about 1 vote per ip, or even a cookie, to control the amount of votes. Maybe I'll do that for any future tests. But what does the group think about the concept? Imagine a website with artificial intelligence. Justin Giboney One fairly large problem comes up when limiting by IP. Many internal networks NAT to one web IP. If several people in one business receive an email about this site, and they go to vote, only one of them will be able to do so. Even if there are header() functions that can pull the original IP plus the web IP and limit off that, some businesses will not support it and will not provide internal ips in the header packets. I don't want to turn your thread into a NAT vs IP v6 war, so I'll stop there. Just be aware that limiting by IP may not be the best way to limit your visitors. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] SEO and Flash
justin wrote: a couple of thoughts on seo for flash sites: 0. don't use flash. really. don't. 1. if you must use flash, minimize it. for seo purposes, less flash is always better. a few small flash files will often provide just as much magic as one large, full site monstrosity. 2. avoid flash based navigation. flash is fun for embedded media, cool animated images, etc. terrible for navigation. 3. if you absolutely must have flash navigation: a. make sure every navigation click in a flash page actually loads a new page, not just new flash content. b. provide an alternate navigation. make sure you can get to every page on the site without using flash. on this particular site, the footer navigation would work. 4. consider using javascript flash detection. one side unfortunate side effect of this is that users with javascript disabled will not be served flash content. but neither will googlebot. 5. if you use javascript flash detection, provide alternate identical content. for every paragraph in the flash file, put one in plain text. hide this content with javascript if you serve them the flash content. in the case of your client, i'd keep the flash slideshow looking thing in the middle of the screen. ditch the flash navigation. you'll prob'ly get more seo mileage out of worrying about everything else you can do for the site. i don't see the current the flash as a major problem with this site. but you might try to talk them out of adding a bunch more... justin Thank you for your suggestions Justin. I have similar thoughts, but the navigation may be a challange. They want the trapezoid-shaped buttons since it goes along with the IsoTruss frame's look. I wonder if there's a way to do the color change effects on the top navigation bar's trapezoid-shaped buttons with css? Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] SEO and Flash
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use Flash wisely. Flash has a purpose. In order to get any SEO, you must follow the Google recommended processes for how they crawl SWFs. I'm not a big fan of Flash-only sites, unless you care nothing for SEO, then anything goes. If you need SEO, you can balance excitement and SEO successfully. No kidding... ...I have to agree here. Flash has a place, not every place. Thank you Cole, I was hoping you'd respond to this question since I know you would have some good stuff to say about Flash. Flash definitely has a place. I might use it less than some, but I'll use it when the need arises. I appreciate your counterpoints for Flash. Um, no, this is old news. Flash Player 8 is already 98% penetration and Player 9 is already at 90 and growing fast. Any idiot turning off Javascript in today's AJAX-happy world, should not be allowed to use the browser anymore. Yes, reallly. Sometimes I need to use a text-based browser on a text-only FreeBSD web server to download software, patches, or for a quick look at a page without having to load my GUI based browser. In that one case I see a need for a no JS interface. Too few sites account for that need. I don't think Lynx supports JS, but I could be wrong... Unless you are a jaded Linux guy (as I feel compelled to allow this exception), if you don't have Flash, again, you should be banned from the internet completely. You dweeb. Or... perhaps... unless you are using Lynx from an OS without a GUI. I don't think you have a major SEO problem with this site either. The Product and 7 Reasons pages are rich in text content. The nice Flash at the top is great. The navigation is not a big issue as far as pure SEO, because you have it in the footer. I'd take the time to do the things Sheri Bigelow mentioned in her presentation this summmer, and you should be fine. Was this ever made available via mp3 or oog? I missed this meeting, but was interested in it. Is there a text-based outline or even a Flash-based slideshow... Use Flash. Use it wisely. The image produced on this site is pretty good, actually. It would be a shame to lose it. -- Cole Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] SEO and Flash
I have a client that uses Flash on his site: http://delta7sports.com/ He wants SEO optimization. My question: How do some of you SEO optimize flash sites that convert text to an images? Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU Family Extravaganza!
Mac Newbold wrote: Yesterday at 12:41pm, Victor Villa said: We had an awesome planning session in the IRC Channel about the family extravaganza and here is the way we are leaning right now: Oct 20 byom and a side dish Mt. Timpanogos Park Possible Activities ? - ultimate Frisbee Anybody with suggestions, please feel free to reply or come into the IRC channel #uphpu! Sounds good to me so far. If nobody else expresses a time preference, I'd probably go for something earlier rather than later, gathering at 4-5pm so we can get the grills going and be eating by 6pm give or take. It would be nice to have a few hours before it starts getting too dark, too. On the activities, Ulitimate Frisbee sounds fun, and I assume there will be plenty playground equipment for the kiddies. I'm open to other stuff too. For those that don't like to run too much, some card games or board games might be fun, or a PHP trivia quiz (make sure to throw in some questions that spouses etc. can answer), or door prizes perhaps. Thanks for putting this together, it's been a fun activity each year that we've done it. Mac Just a quick request to place this event on the UPHPU ical/webcal. /me adds event to cell phone just in case Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] CDBaby Return From Rails to PHP
John David Anderson wrote: Roberto Mello wrote: You can keep lying to yourself, but it won't make it any more true. Your efforts to enforce my personal intellectual honesty aren't really appreciated, or welcome either, for that matter. I have to agree with John. What's a language preference got to do with personal integrity? John David Anderson wrote: Roberto Mello wrote: If you just admit that PHP has some very, very serious flaws and hacks in the language, and note that you have your ways to deal with them, people will take you more seriously. When did I deny that? Is there something I did to offend in my last message? Your overt effort to belittle me honestly has me surprised. Goodness. Now I'm all worried people think I'm not serious. ;) This is a PHP user's group, right? Yep, we exist precisely because we want to discuss flaws, resolutions, and to answer basic usage questions. I'd say we tend to avoid hacks as a group, preferring quality non-hack code, but I'm sure there are some in the list that will happily contribute hacks as well. John David Anderson wrote: Roberto Mello wrote: Your ways to deal with PHP's flaws might not work for everybody. A band-aid hack is still a band-aid hack. I hope you don't mean to infer that all PHP developers are hacks. I will openly admit PHP has drawbacks and gotchas, but all-in-all it's a pleasure to work with. Is any language infallible? I don't find myself resorting to hacks, no, if you're asking. I'd say your right with the majority of the UPHPU group, at least from reading over 2 years of postings. See also my above comment on hacks... John David Anderson wrote: Roberto Mello wrote: I'm no ruby person, but PHP has severe limitations that prevent some rails-like functionality to work similarly to Ruby. PHP, AFAIK, has no way to pass functions and classes as objects. All you can do is pass a string with the string of the function name. You can say that you have no use for that all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's you who's deliberately limiting yourself to the environment. Not the other way around. I'd like to respond to this particular scenario, but let's say it's absolutely impossible to reproduce in PHP. I might have use for that, but does it keep me from reaching some over-arching goal in application development? Probably not. Would I use it if it was there? Sure: why not. But it's bells and whistles like this that people wave around as some sort of rallying cry that on the whole goes unanswered. PHP is the workhorse of the web. Ruby has yet to prove itself. Oh, and please don't bother reply if you aren't even going to make an effort to be respectful. Starting off with an antagonistic and insulting tone, challenging my intellectual honesty, putting words in my mouth, and trying to nail me on inconsequential argument points isn't a real great way to share and build ideas. I don't believe my original message was disrespectful and I ask you to do the same. -- John Again, I agree with John. His reply had no disrespect, and made no judgement calls on the original poster's personal integrity. I value Robert Mello's comments about Ruby vs PHP and his personal experiences with them, but found his comments about John David Anderson's integrity and personal life rather harsh, and quite out of line. I ask the same, Robert. Please keep your personal judgments about peoples integrity off the list. Let's keep this a valuable resource for everyone. /me cowers into a corner hoping not to get a verbal lashing from Mr. Mello about his personal integrity... Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU Family Extravaganza!
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: Also, Tucano's isn't in Orem, that's technically North Provo. Right up on the road (up Provo canyon) is a nice park, not more than 5 minute drive. Very nice, playground, etc. Could be worth it! Also costs a lot though. I love to eat there—it's delicious—I think that we would get more people (and families) if it was a picnic/barbecue though. I agree, but considering this rainy day today, we need an in-case-of-inclement-weather plan. IOW, let's plan on a park, but have a backup indoor place planned as well. Tucano's is fun, but it is indeed more expensive than some. I'm a Brick Oven fan. Brandon Stout http://flfn.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UPHPU Meeting next Thursday
Ray Hunter wrote: i would love to help out and perhaps give a presentation on pgsql or some database concepts/theories. i think that having a group that supports many different databases would be a welcome to the oos community. i think that it will also help developers understand each database's pros/cons and open them up to new ideas. -- ray I see it the same way. I could use a little postgres knowledge, and I have some MySQL knowledge to share. I think I'd like to have the first meeting in a month or two, after I get the website configured a little better and maybe a mail list. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] website enhancements
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: I am curious, would you guys like a block in the sidebar for job announcements (similar to how UGAF does it [1])? I'm indifferent here since I've just started a new job, but I think this may be a good idea. Also, what are your thoughts about requiring job announcements to be posted through a form on the website instead of via email (similar to how UGAF does it [2])? The nice thing about this is that it controls quality without the delay of moderation. Sounds like less work for you - you won't have to manually approve each job posting. As Dave pointed out, you also can enforce certain fields. $useTheFormVotes++; Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] separate logs for each site?
Jonathan Duncan wrote: I use separate logs for all of my sub hosts. Much easier for log analysis. It also allows me to be able to let each sub host view their own files without giving them access to logs for other sites. Jonathan I'll comment on log rotation, a little off the separate logs topic, but a similar topic to your 600 meg log file issue. Log rotation compresses older log files, saving around 75% to 80% of the space a non-compressed plain-text file would use. Verio uses Urchin for log analysis software, and the script Verio provides to install Urchin 5 automatically rotates logs, and compresses them. This command installs it on a Verio VPS: vinstall urchin5 Urchin was purchased by Google, and is now known as Google Analytics: http://www.google.com/analytics/ I imagine if you install this software it will also automatically install log rotation scripts. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Passing more than one $_GET variable
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: I tried that and it didn't work. It loaded the default domain on the box. Instead of… VirtualHost [IP]:[port] …I am using… VirtualHost *:80 Would that make a different? I've never tried * in the VirtualHost tag. I'm not sure if it would work. I'll post if I get a chance to test that idea. Anyone else tried it before? Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Announce List
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: To be potentially oversimplistic, why not just use a the ical with web calendar for announcements? No need for a list - just look at the web page with the calendar, or look at your ical feed. Anything that's ever been sent to the announcement list has been on the calendar. Already exists: http://uphpu.org/meetings/ http://uphpu.org/calendar/ webcal://uphpu.org/calendar/calendars/UPHPU.ics That's what I was referring to, but I didn't notice my little grammar error. Instead of a the ical, I meant just the ical. Here's a service some of the other groups should have, but UPHPU has had from the start. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] welcome back
Jonathan Duncan wrote: On 22 Aug 2007, at 08:49, Orson Jones wrote: Just double checking. Just triple checking. Just quadruple checking... what comes after quadruple? Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] So Long, Farewell
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: Thank you for serving our country. Ditto! Cool... Rambo was a Green Baret... ;) Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] GEEK LUNCH! The Pie Pizzeria - 1p - August 10
Ray Hunter, Wade Preston Shearer, Cole Joplin, and others wrote: [lots of good stuff about acting professionally in this chat room] Nothing turns me away from a list, or even an irc channel faster than prevalent swearing. This is one of the highest quality lists. As list administrator, Wade did the right when he reminded the whole group not to use such language. He didn't flame anyone, he simply sent a reminder not to use one particular word. call it bubble if you wish, but it doesn't matter to me if the irc channel or list is based in Chna (chosen for it's location directly opposite the earth from us for this example), the list will sound less professional with profanity. Let this list continue to attract high quality contributors. Do this by keeping our language professional, not flaming, and sending quality responses. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: First, an explanation for a delayed response. We had a baby this week, and I've been away. Second, thank you for the valuable feedback from everyone. I'll probably not reply to everyone, so I'll write this up-front thank you to all who participated. Hopefully, others will learn from this as well. Even if OO was a standard, I wouldn't send a document like this (and most for that matter, unless I am collaborating/coauthoring something with the recipient) out in an editable format. It has always surprised me that MS Word is the industry standard for sending resumés, as you have no control over how the file is going to look once it is opened. I have seem many resumes that I am sure the formatting is not how it was authored. I would strongly recommend using PDF so that it is exactly how you want it to be seen. Good point. I think I will do that for my next version, coming shortly after I get through this thread. My first impression was whoa… data overload. I think that you have way too much information on there. I believe that a resumé should never be more than a single page. I've heard it both ways. Many people cling to the single-page resume idea. I used a single-page resume until just a couple years ago when I sought feedback from various BYU alumni placement representatives, and _all_ of them said single-page resume's are no longer the standard. All of them said to use as many pages as it takes to list all your qualifications. On the other hand, I've been told the resume seems a bit overwhelming by more than a couple people, so I'm not sure what to think. Hopefully, some of the other comments in this thread that I have not read yet express more opinion on this matter. Otherwise, I welcome other comments on this subject. I would trim the duties you performed at each job down to a minimum of three items and reduce the career summary to a line or two or remove it altogether. An example that I see a lot in resumés for graphic artists, is them listing Photoshop as a skill. Well, sheesh… you better dang well be good at photoshop! Shouldn't that be a given?!? If you are degreed and have x number years of experience, that should be assumed. Besides, that is just a tool that your skills should be external too. List the skills you have; not the tools you use. Good point Wade. I'll look into this more. Some job descriptions request knowledge of specific programs though, so maybe a resume should list at least some less common programs. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree totally, but I have found that too many people want Word docs. Here's my summer-job-hunting experience. Government wants a doc, preferrably Word 2003 format. Headhunters want that same thing, in case they want to tweak your resume a bit before sending it out to someone. Job openings for open source, flash and LAMP prefer PDF. Anyone that even looks like a Mac or Adobe shop wants PDF. So what to do if you hate using Microsoft apps? Google Documents allow you to upload a doc, edit it, and save it as a Wod doc, PDF, even Open Office. So I tried it. The only change I had to make was to reset some center alignments on my original Word doc, and it was fine. Another great advantage is that is is easily accessible from anywhere you have internet access. -- Cole I have not tried using Google Documents before. What I have done when people want a Word-formatted document might not be the best method, but it's worked for me. I tested saving OpenOffice Text files to various Word file-types. The one that held the formatting best at the time I tested (about 24 months ago now) was Rich Text Format (rtf). Thus, I send an rtf file to those who insist on Word-formatted resume's and explain it's the best I can do since I don't have Word. Occasionally, if it's a job I'm not quite as interested in but one I want to make a point to, I'll add some comment about assuming everyone in the world uses Microsoft Word - but usually I avoid that comment :) I have nothing against using MS products. I just don't use pirated products, and I don't have the money to pay MS for stuff that I can do with Open Source software - which includes everything ;). ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
Victor Villa wrote: The strategy being that I want to always present my prospective employer with my name and phone number. So, I email my cover letter and résumé in. I get called for interview. During interview if we talk about my skill set, I have an additional document I only hand out there with all the particulars customized to the job requirement, name and phone at the top. I hand it to the employer. I like that idea. I wonder if others have tried this. If so, I wonder what their experience has been. I also wonder if any managers out there have encountered this from applicants, and how they took it. I imagine the response would be good both ways, especially if you have the add-on information page ready as a prepared response to some common interview question. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first impression was whoa? data overload. I think that you have way too much information on there. I believe that a resumé should never be more than a single page. I would trim the duties you performed at each job down to a minimum of three items and reduce the career summary to a line or two or remove it altogether. An example that I see a lot in resumés for graphic artists, is them listing Photoshop as a skill. Well, sheesh? you better dang well be good at photoshop! Shouldn't that be a given?!? If you are degreed and have x number years of experience, that should be assumed. Besides, that is just a tool that your skills should be external too. List the skills you have; not the tools you use. Well, I can see this, but I never underestimate the inability of the reader to assume anything. Because of electronic delivery, more than one page is now a good thing. Because now the data can be searched. When people have the ability to search hundreds or resume files for some keyword, your resume will show up easier. As much as we want to believe that our resumes are memorable and kept in a handy place, it's just not true. Being searchable is critical. Even if your skills in something aren't expert, but competent, that's what you can expand upon in an interview. I would recommend that if the primary skill of something like Photoshop is not at least a 7 out of 10 level, then you may not do so well at that interview. -- Cole If I remember aright, that's precisely the reason the BYU placement specialists gave for /having/ multi-page resumes. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
Justin Giboney wrote: What I would do... 1) Your future employer is not going to care what revision number you resume is. The revision number is for the rare case that someone keeps a hard-copy. Since the resume says to check the online version, they can then compare versions. A later online version means their hard copy is out-dated. I realize that most people will not bother to look up an online version, so that's why I have the revision number in small text. 2) There is no white space in the document That's intentional. Most resume-making documents I've reviewed say to avoid white space. I therefore took painstaking time to make sure nearly every line wraps to another nearly-full line whenever wrapping takes place. 3) Fit you resume to the employer. For example, you said you didn't want a call center job... the why put Call Center Mgmt in your career summary Good point. I seemed easier to say than manager over other IT people but perhaps I can reword it. 4) I wouldn't list all those skills under career summary. In my opinion, those aren't a summary of your career, they are your knowledge/skills. True. Perhaps I should add a knowledge/skills section... 5) I don't know if many people care if you know every single version of windows. Or, that you know how to use different types of spreadsheets. Perhaps it also does not matter for my current ambition to obtain LAMP-oriented employment. 6) Listing these skills doesn't say how good you are at them. Try, extensive knowledge of css, or 5 years of JavaScript programming (as long as they are true) Right. I listed them like I did to try and squeeze everything into 2 pages, given the fact that many believe you should have no more than one page. I'll reconsider how I have these points listed. 7) I wouldn't consider experience with FrontPage as a benefit I don't either. In fact, FrontPage seems to make many people /less/ capable of writing good web page code. No, I'm not joking - it really does. I listed it because some jobs request experience with it. Then again, since I'm looking for LAMP-based employment, I should probably just loose this point altogether. 8) Change your work experience sentences into super action statements, try Assisted 1000s of customers with server administration I like the way you put that. I avoid a passive voice. Try searching my resume for passive verbs (is, was, were, are) or prepositional phrases (e.g.: phrases that begin with of). You shouldn't get many hits. As such, I've found I can say twice as much with half the words. IOW, I use an active voice. So long as the statement is still accurate, I could reword a few points something like that. 9) I wouldn't list what my degree was. If I'm looking for CIS employment, and I have a CIS degree, it seems natural to list what my degree was. Also, given search-engine capable resume necessities, I'd think one should list the degree for that reason as well. I'm curious what others think on this matter. 10) Don't list the degree that doesn't pertain to the job (Family Science), unless it does. Interesting. I suppose one can assume I have a BS degree if I have an MS... Perhaps if I remove that degree and use super action statements and other suggestions above, I can still squeeze this resume into two pages. 11) the sentences at the top of page 2 don't have bullets I believe these sentences continue the last bullet from the previous page. I'll double-check. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
Lonnie Olson wrote: Side rant: Please don't refer to PDFs as Acrobat, or Adobe format. Adobe is the company that initially created the PDF format. Acrobat is the program they wrote to create and edit PDF files. PDF is an open standard and doesn't have to be tied to Adobe or Acrobat. Lets advocate open source, and openness in general, by avoiding to connect PDF to Adobe in any way possible. --lonnie Point taken! /me goes to read more about the open PDF standard on Wikipedia... Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
Wade Preston Shearer wrote: Another pet peeve is that people refer to Adobe's free PDF viewer as Acrobat. Acrobat is the for-cost PDF creations/editing application. Adobe Reader is the free reader/viewer. True. Now I'll add my Adobe-related pet peeve. I call it Acrobat Reader still, since that was the original name. Adobe has renamed it Adobe Reader, but that's just not accurate. Acrobat Reader does not read _all_ Adobe product files. It only reads PDF files - no more, no less. It should therefore not be called Adobe Reader, it should be Acrobat Reader. Couple this with the fact that it does not read Acrobat files, but PDF files, and I can see a parallel... it's like calling FrontPage the Internet... /me steps down from his soapbox and sits down. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Animated jpegs?
Ash wrote: Wade Preston Shearer wrote: Is there a way to animate jpegs, or rather, using css and maybe some Javascript, have place on a page where a group of jpegs rotates every 2 or 3 seconds (for each jpeg)? There is not a way to have a JPG that contains several frames and is animated in and of itself, but yes, you could easily use javascript to rotate between several JPGs. So you have a link to a tutorial that shows how to do this? Ash I do just this sort of thing on one of the websites I wrote. It uses JavaScript, and some code I borrowed, all referenced within the code itself: http://allmanrentals.com Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] UTOS
Clint Savage wrote: John, That concerned me too. I made this comment more than once in meetings and on the irc channel. I sent out requests to those who'd like to present at UPHPU, all to no avail. I'd love to have someone come and talk about PHP. There are tons of talks about programming, technical topics as well as community. We're talking about community in the other thread, come see how other groups do it. We need businesses too, its important that they participate in what we love. If not for them, we'd have no job prospects and no way or time to attend these meetings we love so dearly. Lets get the community involved, that's what I say. Cheers, Clint I'd prefer to see someone with much more PHP background teach for this, but I'll consider teaching some if someone else does not volunteer. I'd make it short since I'm mostly interested in attending this time around. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Resumes Attracting New Blood
Daniel C. wrote: What, you want us to ASK them? ;-) Seriously though - I'd just go in, open the books and pop in the cards. If you ask someone they'll get their manager, the manager will wonder whether it's going to cost him his job and/or next raise if he lets people do this, he'll defer to the regional manager who will suggest that, rather than doing something simple and effective like this we should instead have a Community Programming Night at the bookstore where we can all gather around and spend money on their outrageously expensive coffee and have idiots who want to learn about Java and C# come bug us to join their WoW guilds, and in the end nothing will get done. Although, honestly, having one of those Barnes and Noble discussion group deals (they have them for chess, Russian literature, Harry Potter, etc. etc.) might not be a bad idea either. Sounds like a future Geek Lunch location... there's also Borders bookstores and the SLC Library has something like this if I remember aright... Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Firefox view source
Rusty Keele wrote: I do have the Web Developer plugin installed, and it has the option to View Generated Source (DOM Source of Selection) which gives me the source without re-loading the page, but I see that it doesn't include the !DOCTYPE tags - which is no big deal really. Hmm... puzzling. -Rusty View Generated Source doesn't just omit the dtd, it also shows the source after JavaScript changes. E.g.: if you use JavaScript to open external links in a new window, and you don't use the deprecated target= attribute, View Generated Source shows a target= attribute anyway. It probably shows other client script changes. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] MySQL dates
Justin Giboney wrote: I should have designed the db using a date field (or even better a long integer with unix timestamp), but I didn't plan well, and now I suffer. Justin Giboney I avoid unix timestamp for database time/date data. A few reasons: * I like to see the date in a readable format up-front. * One less function - you don't need to convert the date from unix timestamp to date format * Unless I'm mistaken, Unix Timestamp fields cannot precede January 1, 1970. Some movies are older than that. In addition, I'm considering migrating some information away from standard date-time fields to just the way you have done it. $this, because these fields also have constraints. Consider a geneological database - I can't use a standard MySQL date/time field to record births 1,000 years ago. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Pastebin.org, Would Anybody like to help me create a pastebin?
Jennifer Charrey wrote: I like this idea. How about a wiki? Or better yet, someone volunteer to write a custom wiki and framework from scratch! ;D I have over 2 years of archives from this list that I've kept, and in them I've seen a few things resurface. Often, new things come up for old topics. For example, this has been the most informative To Smarty, or not to Smarty discussion so far. I've thought of doing similar things so I can start trimming down my 16+ megs of UPHPU archives - I'd summarize all points made for common topics. If I do this, I'll happily post such articles on UPHPU.org. /me reverts to a James-T-Kirk-like voice If I.. just-had... more. time.. On the other hand, I'd hate to try and stop further discussion on re-curring topics. Most of the time, something new and informative comes up. As I just mentioned, this has been the most informative discussion on Smarty... spawned by yours-truely's comment on not using Smarty... Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
Brandon Stout wrote: ... I'll provide a link to my resume soon ... As an open source advocate, I use OpenOffice.org Writer to write my resume. Since many companies don't use it, I publish it to Acrobat format as well. Anyone can download my resume in either format here: http://res.mscis.org I'll welcome feedback from any who take the time to offer it, whether personal or to the list. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] W3 Validation Images
Justin Giboney wrote: Is there value in adding the w3 validation images to a business site? Justin Giboney I believe they hold value, but not for customers. I like to promote well-written code, so I use the badges on many sites, especially for a portfolio site (a promote me/hire me site). I want employers to know that I focus on quality, valid code. For sales, I imagine it holds little value unless you use that site in your portfolio for future employers or for promotion. I'm no design specialist, but be careful of clutter - if your site has a simple design, maybe use the badges. If it has lots of info per page, consider not using them. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Pastebin.org, Would Anybody like to help me create a pastebin?
Sean wrote: Hey All, I used one of those domain backorder sites, the ones that as soon as a domain expires it registars it in your name. So anyways now I have pastebin.org and want to create a open source project for a pastebin and have pastebin.org use it. If anyone is interested in helping, please shoot me a email. I really haven't put to much thought in the creation except that I plan on using Smarty, Geshi, PHP, Mysql, Jackrabbit. Also, even if your not interested in helping with the project, any suggestions, or feature requests are highly appreciated. I'd recommend not using Smarty since it's a template system for PHP, which is it's own template system. Don't use a template system for a template system. Many in this list will express the same opinion about Smarty when asked. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
[UPHPU] brasto seeks new LAMP OSS opportunities
The thread debating pay rates and legal issues led me to post this. I've been pondering this post for some time, but not sure whether advertising myself for employment is appropriate. There's also potential undesirable results if my current employment sees this. /me throws caution to the wind and proceeds I'm also responding to one of the posts in that thread since it provides a good opening: John David Anderson wrote: What kind of clients/employers are you people working for? I work for Verio. I like working here and recommend it to anyone starting with Unix admin and website development - especially college-aged individuals. I'm not just saying this because they might read this post, it really is a great place to work. I enjoy the people I work with, and have learned much here. For ethical reasons, on finding new employment, I'll want to give a 2 week notice. So, why do I want to leave? * I need a shift change. I'm working a 4x10 weekend swing shift just to get a little extra $$ to provide for my family of 5 (to be 6 on Monday). This is perhaps one of the worst shifts for a father to have. * As the above point suggests, I don't make enough for my family, though Verio does provide excellent medical benefits. * I'm committed to OSS, and although Verio has LAMP servers, it's not as OSS oriented as I'd like. I'd love to have Linux on my workstation. I want to code more. * I've worked in call centers for 7 years. Honestly, I'm tired of taking so many calls. Many jobs require taking _some_ calls. I'm definitely OK with this, so log as call-taking remains an aspect of the job, not the primary duty. I want to code more and take calls less. I am well paid by a great open-source friendly company. I feel valued, and we look for clients that share that same respect. I'd like to say that its been incredibly hard to find a great place to work and great people to work with, but it hasn't. This is my first job out of school, and though we've had some slow times, we've been consistently hiring and growing. I think a lot of the value you will get as a PHP programmer comes from educating (or rejecting) clients/employers who don't understand your value. They'll pay their bottom-dollar for a low-quality solution and need your expertise later on anyway. :) -- John In the original thread about pay rates and such showed that many have found it easy to find OSS employment. I haven't found it so easy. Perhaps this thread will change my experience. I'll in the Linked In network, so I welcome your invites there, and some of you will likely receive invites from me when I have the time. I'll provide a link to my resume soon. Thank you all, Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] VS.PHP as an IDE
Mike Mackrory wrote: A few weeks ago, someone asked if anyone had any experience with VS.PHP, which is a PHP plug-in for Visual Studio... Just a brief request not to hit reply-all to one thread to start a new thread. Now this completely different (but valid) topic shows up in my client as a sub-thread to: [UPHPU] Re: [UPHPU-jobs] 1-2 Senior Web Developer(s) - $45K - $65K Maybe I'm overly picky, but I like to keep these emails grouped by topic and starting a new thread with reply-all breaks this functionality. Brandon Stout http://flfn.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] PHP 4 EOL Announcement
John Finlay wrote: But we have to ask ourselves, why haven't the hosts upgraded to PHP 5? It is because, until just recently all of the Linux distributions still included PHP 4 by default. Really, what hosting provider is going to take the time to compile PHP from source when your OS distribution provides an RPM, even if it is an out of date RPM. I wouldn't say *all* Linux distros. The major one's I tested a couple years ago had PHP5 RPM packages. I tested Fedora, OpenSuse, Mandriva, and others. ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] PHP/MySQL Security
Ray Hunter wrote: I'll send out the links tonight for each ones. Each publisher kinda has their own guide. I do find that oreilly has a great book review guide that is built from slashdot. If you did a slashdot review, expect more free books from the publishers. They will love you if you get on slashdot. -- ray I found the rather extensive slashdot book review guidelines. The incredibly intuitive URL: http://slashdot.org/book.review.guidelines.shtml Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] group discount to Utah Open Source Conference
John David Anderson wrote: Anyone else find it a bit ironic that this URL is powered by ASP? :) Maybe they're running mono... -- John Ironic indeed! In spite of this terrible problem, I registered anyway. How can I otherwise call myself an Open Source Advocate? Hope to see some of you there! Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] PHP/MySQL Security
Justin Giboney wrote: I want to learn a lot about how to secure PHP and MySQL. I would like to have all this information available in one place, so that I can have a sequential learning. Is there a really good book that you would recommend, or a website that has everything in one place? Thank you Justin Giboney I've enjoyed: * Core Web Application Development with PHP and MySQL by Marc Wandschneider * Beginning PHP and MySQL 5 by Jason Gilmore Both are probably available at the PHP library. Which reminds me... Wade, I never wrote a review on these books... is it too late? Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] PHP/MySQL Security
Ray Hunter wrote: It's never too late for a book review. -- ray Ray, What exactly do they look for in these reviews? I'm replying to list since perhaps others with UPHPU books have the same question. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Zimbra or other email hosting?
Richard K Miller wrote: Can anyone recommend a hosted email solution? We currently use the built-in email from Bluehost.com, but we need something better. Squirrelmail isn't cutting it as a Web interface, and we need better spam filtering. I like the idea of finding a Zimbra host, but Zimbra.com itself requires 25-seat minimum and we only need 5-10. Has anyone used any of the 3rd party Zimbra hosts? Or is there another suggested email host with good spam filtering, POP3/IMAP, and a good Web interface? SpamAssassin is great, but it's even better coupled with an RBLS (SBL/XBL) subscription to spamhaus.org. This blocks the IP addresses for top spammers from even connecting to the box, and saves processing power. What little spam still gets through, SpamAssassin can chew up. http://www.spamhaus.org/ Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] spam v CSS in no holds barred action
Velda Christensen wrote: Testing that out. I've got a rather persistent set of losers trying to post crap in my niece's guestbook. I've got it set up now to where they haven't been able to spam it for at least a year but I track 'close calls' (where they passed all tests but one) and there at least a dozen per week. When it gets to a dozen per day I add a new security feature. To give you an idea how .. annoying these spammers are being.. her guestbook script gets roughly 200 times more hits than her other pages, and twice the hits of the main site. But anyway I am thinking I should be able to tell whether they're filling out the hidden field, and what they're putting in it, and make further plans to foil the spammers that way. If I could get the field to hide. For some reason I can't get the stylesheet to cover the input style :-( At least not in FF. Not without using inline style (which I think could be a bit of a dead giveaway) If you've got ideas you can have a look here: http://lilyharper.org/lily/guestbook/ (Macey's gave me a whole stack of paper bags this morning, so I am prepared!) -Velda You can absolute position it, with a lower z-index than another element placed over it. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Tables rock!
jtaber wrote: Who said tables are not amazing, check out this drawing done in html with tables and background color. Who needs CSS? http://animenarutard.blogspot.com/2007/06/drawing-made-of-html.html well, good for a little Sunday humor - found on digg, where else. of course, there is SVG and Inkscape. LOL! Gotta hand it to this person for creativity. Unfortunately, not for much else. I thought of doing this once, then the sheer inefficiency of doing a picture this way struck me, as I'll - pardon the pun - illustrate below. Most of us agree tables are for tabular data, and not layout. This goes to a far greater level of extremity - creating an image with something that was never designed to create an image. The most obvious, at least to me... Start with these simple premises: * The drawing looks like about 256 colors, which means each pixel is one byte * Each character the person types is one byte in a properly written html file * A 250 x 250 pixel, 256 color image = 250 x 250 bytes = 62500 bytes = 61 kb The image size above is about 61 kb, plus perhaps a little space for non-pixel formatting/meta data - not sure how that part works. To do the same using background colors in an html table with old-style, bad markup code, and assuming an ASCII character set: html body bgcolor=00 table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=1 bgcolor=ff tr height=1 td width=2 bgcolor=##/td (repeat this 250 times, manually enter an appropriate bgcolor value each time) /tr (repeat previous 3 tags 250 times - including the 250 td tags repeated another 250 times - each time) /table /body /html Correct me if I'm doing the math incorrectly, but Doctype declaration, head tags, meta tags, title, etc all set aside, consider that the presenter was using Windows, which uses 2 characters for every line return (new line + carriage return) we now have: * 94 bytes on lines one through four * 15 bytes on line 5, repeated 250 times: 15 * 250 = 3750 bytes * 34 bytes on line 6, repeated 250 * 250 times: 34 * 250 * 250 = 2125000 bytes Note that the above bullet, considered by itself, is intuitively 34 times the size of the image file, all by itself... * 7 bytes on line 7, repeated 250 times: 7 * 250 bytes = 1750 bytes * 28 bytes on the remaining lines Adding it together: 94 + 3750 + 2125000 + 1750 + 28 bytes = 2130622 bytes We've turned a 61 kb raster image (pixel-based) file into a 2 mb bloated monster file. Lard Ratio: A little over 34 to 1 - see third-to-last bullet above. For properly indented code, add 1 to the 34 for every white space character in front of each td tag... Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
Re: [UPHPU] Menus Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin, I'm okay with a lot of what I've read, but I'm not exactly thrilled with the way people are using buttons. Web 2.0 buttons are better as bigger, or badges, and seeing a dozen small web 2.0 images doesn't do it for me. Neither do complicated dynamic menus. It turns me off. Let me give you an example of what I mean. Want some organic feeling navigation? Check out: http://csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/083/083.css There's a lot to be said for simplicity of text menus, without going crazy. You can still have a beautiful, visual presentation, plus easy-to-understand menus, sans images. The SEO is also great. If you had a similar design approach, elegant, added some product photos, you'd have a fantastic start, IMO. -- Cole I'm a fan of text menus also. You cannot search an image for the text in it... and even if a search-engine or two supports the alt attribute for images, you can't search the page (ctrl +f) for it. Whenever possible I use text. When people put text below a picture (eg: left-to-right: Joe, Frank, and Fenton Hardy) and save it as part of the jpg, I trim it back out and position text near the picture. This makes the page size a bit smaller, more searchable, and more CSS friendly. Besides, if one really wants buttons, you can put background colors and borders around text and make it look like a button. Of course, one cannot click background colors. Generally speaking, your menu system also depends on your content. I like a left nav menu, and a quick-links top-side menu bar for the most common things - just the way Drupal does it. I have, however, noticed a recent turn from navigation menus (usually on the left side, sometimes on the right), especially for sites with high graphical content. Youtube has just top and bottom links. This may be a good idea for graphical content - more screen real-estate for the pictures and videos. Brandon Stout http://mscis.org ___ UPHPU mailing list UPHPU@uphpu.org http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
