Re: hide / show oddities ?
Coming a little late to this conversation, I think I have seen this too, in LC 7 rc2. I have several instances of ‘show’ that work, and one, where I have to show a splash screen, that doesn’t. Like you Alex, I automatically thought that it must be something I’m doing wrong, but now I am not so sure. Am about to do more tests. I notice that if I put something that stops the app running (I mean an ‘answer’ message) as the next line after the ‘show’, the shown stack does appear (is visible) behind the dialog box; but without the ‘answer’, the ‘show’ appears to be completely ignored, even if I follow it with a ‘wait’. Gotta find out what this is - it definitely worked in all the 6.x versions of LC. Graham On 26 Nov 2014, at 11:46, Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net wrote: This feels so unlikely that I wonder if I'm simply doing something wrong - but thought I'd ask first. I had a script which is supposed to (amongst other things) hide one particular group. Although it usually worked OK, in some cases, sometimes, the group would remain visible when it is not supposed to. Trying to find this in the IDE/debugger wasn't getting anywhere, so I reverted to using puts (but still in the IDE). I finished up after a few iterations with some code that said .. hide grp abcde put here now the vis of grp abcde CR after msg and it output here now true So I changed the code to .. set the vis of grp abcde to false put here now the vis of grp abcde CR after msg and what do you know - not only does it output here now false, but the group *always* becomes invisible. Does hide do anything different from simply setting the visibility to false? Is it remotely possible this isn't me misunderstanding something ? And then - in a completely different bit of the same app, in a different group, I have some code (in the group script) that was doing ... show me to ensure that the group was visible (inside a timed / delay loop). This would occasionally result in some graphics showing up wrongly (in the wrong colour) very briefly. Simply changing the code to set the visible of me to true again seems to fix this. To be honest, if someone else described these symptoms to me, I'd be looking for what else was going on that they had forgotten about :-) But I've already done that - now I'm hoping someone can offer an idea of whether this is feasible. Has anyone else seen anything like this ? Should I be pursuing an attempt to make this happen in a smaller sample so I can submit a useful bug report ? (oh - glad you asked - Mac OSX 10.8.5, LC 6.6.2) Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Button is behavior
Is there a way to identify whether a button is used as a behavior? e.g. the isBehavior of btn 1 Just asking. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hide / show oddities ?
Possibly mismatched lock screen / unlock screen ? (Though still seems very weird and sounds like a bug). On 27/11/2014, at 11:52 AM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: hide / show oddities ? Message-ID: 5475bd91.6090...@tweedly.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This feels so unlikely that I wonder if I'm simply doing something wrong - but thought I'd ask first. I had a script which is supposed to (amongst other things) hide one particular group. Although it usually worked OK, in some cases, sometimes, the group would remain visible when it is not supposed to. Trying to find this in the IDE/debugger wasn't getting anywhere, so I reverted to using puts (but still in the IDE). I finished up after a few iterations with some code that said .. hide grp abcde put here now the vis of grp abcde CR after msg and it output here now true ... ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
EU VAT changes small software businesses
I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
Hi Ian, Really, I don't have the slightest idea. It is not realistic for me to pay VAT to each individual country. I guess I will do nothing and wait for a letter from the tax office. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 11/27/2014 12:26, Ian Wood wrote: I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
Ian, For UK businesses, the link below gives some information of one way to handle this. I'm not sure how useful this is. Thankfully, I'm not affected at the moment. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-and-the-vat-mini-one-stop-shop Cheers Dave On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:26, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote: I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
Hi Dave, I forgot to post that link. :-( It doesn't help much because I'm a sole trader under the UK VAT threshold - VAT-registering the entire business for the sake of 1000€ in software turnover would wipe out about half my income. At the moment it looks like I'll either have to stop the software side completely or start posting the software on CDs instead of via digital download. I'm a *little* bit pissed off at the moment... Ian On 27 Nov 2014, at 12:08, Dave Cragg wrote: Ian, For UK businesses, the link below gives some information of one way to handle this. I'm not sure how useful this is. Thankfully, I'm not affected at the moment. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-and-the-vat-mini-one-stop-shop Cheers Dave On 27 Nov 2014, at 11:26, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote: I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
AW: EU VAT changes small software businesses
Our backoffice software for invoicing etc. can't manage that either on line level. Btw. the new european tax law only affects business with downloadable digital products (video, software, etc.) no physical shipped products. Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Ian Wood Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. November 2014 12:27 An: How to use LiveCode Betreff: EU VAT changes small software businesses I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/inde x_ en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
Hi Ian, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Until today i was not aware that there will be changes in EU law. At the moment i use 2 different ways to sell my license keys (which i create with Jacques great tool Zygodact) 1. Paypal from within my website There i am charging 19% VAT. That´s the german tax rate. 2. Kagi. This works very good. What i really love is, that i can use my Zygodact license generation stack. Kagi sent me a Template stack in which i integrated the Zygodact key generation stack. So all is now working automatically. Kagi is charging the VAT according to the country of the buyer. They take some money for handling. And to be true, it´s a little more than i would pay for Paypal. But i can live with that, because i have no more work except waiting for my payments from them. With Paypal i have to add each purchase to my account software/system and i have to create the license manually. With Kagi i just have to add one payment every 3 month (i set it for quarterly payment in my kagi seller account) to my accounting software. So for me this means, i just have to stop offering PayPal as purchase option. Regards, Matthias Am 27.11.2014 um 12:26 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
So basically, every one of you EU software sellers is going to be fucked. It seems that using the MOSS is only applicable if you yourself have a VAT identification number. Furthermore it seems to be opt in and not mandatory. Nontheless, it seems to me that you then will need to do the Vat stuff by hand, especially if you do not have a registered VAT identification number yourself, and can't use the MOSS. What is the benefit of using the MOSS? They don't tell. The rules themselves are horribly vague and open to a ton of interpretation. In regards to software, an automatic electronic service with no human interaction does not apply, using an example of a price comparison service site. But selling antivirus software in an automated online shop is included in the examples where the new rule applies... where is the human interaction in that? The best parts are those that try to deal with moving sale-targets, or people who buy something trough a local wifi, then disconnect and go trough data roaming... Hilarious, if it weren't so sad, especially as a customer supplied billing address is NOT a valid proof of location! Even worse are the rules about re-sale chains, which makes determining whose countries tax in the chain of resellers to apply from hard to impossible. This is such a top down heavy and unwieldy legislature, it's a wonder it hasn't been sued on the basis of being against human rights :-P This Austrian Page is pretty interesting for trying to be readable, but instead is a prime example of legalese-obtuse: https://english.bmf.gv.at/taxation/moss.html#heading_FAQs_Mini_One_Stop_Shop_MOSS_ There's also the practical guide Almanach-sized PDF from the EU (love the chart on page 61): http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/explanatory_notes_2015_en.pdf VAT rules per country, so you could do it by hand I guess: http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:23, Matthias Rebbe | M-R-D matthias_livecode_150...@m-r-d.de wrote: Hi Ian, thanks for bringing this to my attention. Until today i was not aware that there will be changes in EU law. At the moment i use 2 different ways to sell my license keys (which i create with Jacques great tool Zygodact) 1. Paypal from within my website There i am charging 19% VAT. That´s the german tax rate. 2. Kagi. This works very good. What i really love is, that i can use my Zygodact license generation stack. Kagi sent me a Template stack in which i integrated the Zygodact key generation stack. So all is now working automatically. Kagi is charging the VAT according to the country of the buyer. They take some money for handling. And to be true, it´s a little more than i would pay for Paypal. But i can live with that, because i have no more work except waiting for my payments from them. With Paypal i have to add each purchase to my account software/system and i have to create the license manually. With Kagi i just have to add one payment every 3 month (i set it for quarterly payment in my kagi seller account) to my accounting software. So for me this means, i just have to stop offering PayPal as purchase option. Regards, Matthias Am 27.11.2014 um 12:26 schrieb Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk: I searched and couldn't find any discussion on the list, and this affects rather a lot of us... http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/index_en.htm From Jan 1st, business-to-customer software sales within the EU have to charge VAT based on the buyer's country rather than the seller's country, then paying that VAT to that country. A question to anyone on the list with a smaller business or selling as an individual - what plans do you have to cope with this? Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:25, Björnke von Gierke wrote: So basically, every one of you EU software sellers is going to be fucked. No, Anyone who sells in the EU and outside their own country, no matter *where* they're based in the world. :-( Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Hugh. You could surely write a short function, asking if the behavior of your button of interest is empty. Craig -Original Message- From: FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Nov 27, 2014 5:53 am Subject: Button is behavior Is there a way to identify whether a button is used as a behavior? e.g. the isBehavior of btn 1 Just asking. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Have perused the dictionary, don't think there is currently a way to do what you want. Feature request? The only other option would be to cycle through the controls and build a behavior list. Might be interesting to do though, build an array keyed by button id, that contains a list of objects that it supplies behavior to. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:49 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Hugh. You could surely write a short function, asking if the behavior of your button of interest is empty. Craig -Original Message- From: FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Nov 27, 2014 5:53 am Subject: Button is behavior Is there a way to identify whether a button is used as a behavior? e.g. the isBehavior of btn 1 Just asking. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Server boot time - font init
Looking for ways to streamline CGI performance I made this simple script to measure boot time: #!livecode-server put Howdy! quit ...and then ran it with strace to see the system calls it makes: strace -v -o lctrace.txt ./test.lc Looking at the resulting output file I was surprised to find that more than 3/4 of all system calls during boot of the SERVER engine are related to FONT management. I realize that LC Server now also provides graphics handling, so I can appreciate the need for the lengthy font init. But for apps where fonts will never be used, should there be a way to turn that off? Maybe with a flag in the command line? 3/4 of boot instructions seems worth trimming if we can. Should I submit a request for an optional -f flag for LC Server to turn off font init? Or would it be more helpful to turn off all graphics initialization with something like -g? Also, for Mark Weider or anyone else familiar with Linux enough to help with this: I see a lot of lines in the strace output like this: access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) What is nohwcap, and why would the engine keep looking for it over and over after it's already been told it isn't there? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Mike- Thursday, November 27, 2014, 8:16:18 AM, you wrote: Have perused the dictionary, don't think there is currently a way to do what you want. Feature request? I'm not even sure a feature request would help here. Being used as a behavior isn't a property of an object, it's just a reference from some other object. The only other option would be to cycle through the controls and build a behavior list. Might be interesting to do though, build an array keyed by button id, that contains a list of objects that it supplies behavior to. That's the only way I could think of doing this. You could also set a custom property on buttons that you're using as behavior objects and query on that. But Hugh, what are you trying to accomplish? -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Was curious and tried it. 4000 controls, took 107 milliseconds to index, on my system. It picked up datagrid behaviors too. local sObehaveListA on mouseUp put the milliseconds into tStart put empty into sObehaveListA repeat with i = 1 to (the number of controls of this stack) if the behavior of control i is not empty then put the name of control i cr after sObehaveListA[(the behavior of control i)] end if end repeat put the milliseconds - tStart cr put the keys of sObehaveListA after msg end mouseUp On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Mike- Thursday, November 27, 2014, 8:16:18 AM, you wrote: Have perused the dictionary, don't think there is currently a way to do what you want. Feature request? I'm not even sure a feature request would help here. Being used as a behavior isn't a property of an object, it's just a reference from some other object. The only other option would be to cycle through the controls and build a behavior list. Might be interesting to do though, build an array keyed by button id, that contains a list of objects that it supplies behavior to. That's the only way I could think of doing this. You could also set a custom property on buttons that you're using as behavior objects and query on that. But Hugh, what are you trying to accomplish? -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Mike- Nice. That gives you a concordance. And then isBehavior becomes function isBehavior pButtonName return pButtonName is among the lines of the keys of sObehaveListA end isBehavior -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: External files in Standalones
Hi Bill. Have you run into any problems yet with your Mac standalone getting rejected by Gatekeeper under 10.9.5 or later? Apparently the app bundle structure is under new restrictions with Apple's V2 codesigning rules, Resources should not be located in directories where the system expects to find signed code. Also, just curious, are you aiming for the Mac App Store with this or are you releasing it as a 3rd party developer? -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/External-files-in-Standalones-tp4686277p4686304.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
The whole European ³dream² just sucks... That circus located in Brussel is only good for run-out politicians and their ³believers² who are eating our tax money earned by hard working people. By the way given away by our own stupid government esp. my Dutch government (642.M euro tax money). The European politicians have one goal: grasp as much as they can (e.g. This new tax rule) so that this circus can continue... I never talk about politics in forums but this time I could not control myself... :-( Erik On 27/11/14 16:37, Ian Wood revl...@azurevision.co.uk wrote: On 27 Nov 2014, at 14:25, Björnke von Gierke wrote: So basically, every one of you EU software sellers is going to be fucked. No, Anyone who sells in the EU and outside their own country, no matter *where* they're based in the world. :-( Ian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Server boot time - font init
Richard- Thursday, November 27, 2014, 8:20:07 AM, you wrote: What is nohwcap, and why would the engine keep looking for it over and over after it's already been told it isn't there? There's an *interesting* writeup over at https://saintaardvarkthecarpeted.com/blog/archive/2005/08/_etc_ld_so_nohwcap.html but the tl;dr is sudo touch /etc/ld.so.nohwcap should take care of it. The idea as I understand it is that nohwcap is supposed to offload the hardware capabilities check onto the distros so that there's only one place to check. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
I have a script that does that and also makes bulk changes to a specific behavior. It's on the Free Stuff page of my web site www.lcsql.com, cleverly titled FindBehaviors. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:16 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Have perused the dictionary, don't think there is currently a way to do what you want. Feature request? The only other option would be to cycle through the controls and build a behavior list. Might be interesting to do though, build an array keyed by button id, that contains a list of objects that it supplies behavior to. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:49 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: Hugh. You could surely write a short function, asking if the behavior of your button of interest is empty. Craig -Original Message- From: FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thu, Nov 27, 2014 5:53 am Subject: Button is behavior Is there a way to identify whether a button is used as a behavior? e.g. the isBehavior of btn 1 Just asking. Hugh Senior FLCo ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: External files in Standalones
Tom, I've been developing a large app in LC, while learning LC, and am just now at the stage of building a standalone. So, I haven't faced the apple store requirements yet. I guess I should spend more time looking at the forums, because for now I've concentrated on this list for info, and building the app for a January deadline. My plan for now is to finish the app, use InstallerMaker to build an installer, and send it to UC Santa Barbara for testing in an Earth Disasters course. This replaces an older app I made in Director. Then I'm going to add more bells and whistles, and try to get it into the Apple store. It would be really great if I could anticipate future problems with file structures, etc. ultimately, I will look at iPad deployment. One of the problems I've run into is the application builder changes the file structure and images that I have linked to controls lose their links when a standalone is built. But in general, It would be really useful if there was a place where sample file structures, application builder oddities, and apple store complexities were posted. The Livecode tutorials are laughably brief and un-informative, and I've googled to no avail. Any directions or links would be most welcome. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:45 AM, tbodine bod...@bodinetraininggames.com wrote: Hi Bill. Have you run into any problems yet with your Mac standalone getting rejected by Gatekeeper under 10.9.5 or later? Apparently the app bundle structure is under new restrictions with Apple's V2 codesigning rules, Resources should not be located in directories where the system expects to find signed code. Also, just curious, are you aiming for the Mac App Store with this or are you releasing it as a 3rd party developer? -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/External-files-in-Standalones-tp4686277p4686304.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: External files in Standalones
Ohanaware has just released App Wrapper 3 which I'm using (I'm just code signing, not using the App Store though) with success. Sam Rowlands is a great guy and has specifically worked with RunRev to make his product compatible with Livecode. Version 3 will take of Apple's new version 2 requirements. http://www.ohanaware.com/ Marty Knapp Tom, I've been developing a large app in LC, while learning LC, and am just now at the stage of building a standalone. So, I haven't faced the apple store requirements yet. I guess I should spend more time looking at the forums, because for now I've concentrated on this list for info, and building the app for a January deadline. My plan for now is to finish the app, use InstallerMaker to build an installer, and send it to UC Santa Barbara for testing in an Earth Disasters course. This replaces an older app I made in Director. Then I'm going to add more bells and whistles, and try to get it into the Apple store. It would be really great if I could anticipate future problems with file structures, etc. ultimately, I will look at iPad deployment. One of the problems I've run into is the application builder changes the file structure and images that I have linked to controls lose their links when a standalone is built. But in general, It would be really useful if there was a place where sample file structures, application builder oddities, and apple store complexities were posted. The Livecode tutorials are laughably brief and un-informative, and I've googled to no avail. Any directions or links would be most welcome. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:45 AM, tbodine bod...@bodinetraininggames.com wrote: Hi Bill. Have you run into any problems yet with your Mac standalone getting rejected by Gatekeeper under 10.9.5 or later? Apparently the app bundle structure is under new restrictions with Apple's V2 codesigning rules, Resources should not be located in directories where the system expects to find signed code. Also, just curious, are you aiming for the Mac App Store with this or are you releasing it as a 3rd party developer? -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/External-files-in-Standalones-tp4686277p4686304.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
On 27/11/14 14:08, Dave Cragg wrote: Ian, For UK businesses, the link below gives some information of one way to handle this. I'm not sure how useful this is. Thankfully, I'm not affected at the moment. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-and-the-vat-mini-one-stop-shop Cheers Dave My software floats in cyberspace and is a personal offering rather than linked to my company (which is a company based in Bulgaria solely for computer maintenance, educational software development and EFL teaching inwith the boundaries of Bulgaria): so, if somebody pays me for an item of software I produce (and the money goes into a PayPal account linked to a Scottish bank) the whole thing is extremely odd re who charges VAT and to whom, where? This, is like many things associated with the internet, a bit of a wobbly area, and one that greedy nation states are trying to muscle in on, but are going to find it hard to do. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
On 27/11/14 19:00, Erik Beugelaar wrote: The whole European ³dream² just sucks... That circus located in Brussel is only good for run-out politicians and their ³believers² who are eating our tax money earned by hard working people. By the way given away by our own stupid government esp. my Dutch government (642.M euro tax money). The European politicians have one goal: grasp as much as they can (e.g. This new tax rule) so that this circus can continue... I never talk about politics in forums but this time I could not control myself... :-( Erik That is probably why the 'UK' wants to get away from the EU with its fat bodies clogging up the corridors of ugly 70s buildings in Brussels. It would be 'nice' is England could see that the way Brussels behaves towards the 'UK' echos the way England behaves towards Scotland! What is the EU? Well, as far as I can see it has 2 reasons to exist: 1. So that people who cannot do anything productive can become EU bureaucrats and cream off the fat of those of us who do work. 2. To help semi-criminal countries such as Bulgaria (I know I live in Bulgaria) suck the hard-earned money of honest Germans and English people as EU grants (my god, you should just see how crook those grant proposals are). Of course the inevitable consequence of this shambles is that it tempts us hard workers into becoming tax dodgers . . . at which point things get into some sort of negative feedback downward spiral into Mafia-land. Well said Erik, echos my own very real cynicism. They can take their 'VAT' and stuff it up their fat European Union bottoms. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: External files in Standalones
Marty: Thanks! I just downloaded App Wrapper 3 and will be trying it out over the next day or so. Best, Bill On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com wrote: Ohanaware has just released App Wrapper 3 which I'm using (I'm just code signing, not using the App Store though) with success. Sam Rowlands is a great guy and has specifically worked with RunRev to make his product compatible with Livecode. Version 3 will take of Apple's new version 2 requirements. http://www.ohanaware.com/ Marty Knapp Tom, I've been developing a large app in LC, while learning LC, and am just now at the stage of building a standalone. So, I haven't faced the apple store requirements yet. I guess I should spend more time looking at the forums, because for now I've concentrated on this list for info, and building the app for a January deadline. My plan for now is to finish the app, use InstallerMaker to build an installer, and send it to UC Santa Barbara for testing in an Earth Disasters course. This replaces an older app I made in Director. Then I'm going to add more bells and whistles, and try to get it into the Apple store. It would be really great if I could anticipate future problems with file structures, etc. ultimately, I will look at iPad deployment. One of the problems I've run into is the application builder changes the file structure and images that I have linked to controls lose their links when a standalone is built. But in general, It would be really useful if there was a place where sample file structures, application builder oddities, and apple store complexities were posted. The Livecode tutorials are laughably brief and un-informative, and I've googled to no avail. Any directions or links would be most welcome. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:45 AM, tbodine bod...@bodinetraininggames.com wrote: Hi Bill. Have you run into any problems yet with your Mac standalone getting rejected by Gatekeeper under 10.9.5 or later? Apparently the app bundle structure is under new restrictions with Apple's V2 codesigning rules, Resources should not be located in directories where the system expects to find signed code. Also, just curious, are you aiming for the Mac App Store with this or are you releasing it as a 3rd party developer? -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/External-files-in-Standalones-tp4686277p4686304.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
LOL! Thanks Richmond for your mental support. Cheers, Erik On 27/11/14 19:27, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/14 19:00, Erik Beugelaar wrote: The whole European ³dream² just sucks... That circus located in Brussel is only good for run-out politicians and their ³believers² who are eating our tax money earned by hard working people. By the way given away by our own stupid government esp. my Dutch government (642.M euro tax money). The European politicians have one goal: grasp as much as they can (e.g. This new tax rule) so that this circus can continue... I never talk about politics in forums but this time I could not control myself... :-( Erik That is probably why the 'UK' wants to get away from the EU with its fat bodies clogging up the corridors of ugly 70s buildings in Brussels. It would be 'nice' is England could see that the way Brussels behaves towards the 'UK' echos the way England behaves towards Scotland! What is the EU? Well, as far as I can see it has 2 reasons to exist: 1. So that people who cannot do anything productive can become EU bureaucrats and cream off the fat of those of us who do work. 2. To help semi-criminal countries such as Bulgaria (I know I live in Bulgaria) suck the hard-earned money of honest Germans and English people as EU grants (my god, you should just see how crook those grant proposals are). Of course the inevitable consequence of this shambles is that it tempts us hard workers into becoming tax dodgers . . . at which point things get into some sort of negative feedback downward spiral into Mafia-land. Well said Erik, echos my own very real cynicism. They can take their 'VAT' and stuff it up their fat European Union bottoms. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: EU VAT changes small software businesses
On 27/11/14 21:18, Erik Beugelaar wrote: LOL! Thanks Richmond for your mental support. Cheers, Erik Almost all of my support is 'mental'. Richmond. On 27/11/14 19:27, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/11/14 19:00, Erik Beugelaar wrote: The whole European ³dream² just sucks... That circus located in Brussel is only good for run-out politicians and their ³believers² who are eating our tax money earned by hard working people. By the way given away by our own stupid government esp. my Dutch government (642.M euro tax money). The European politicians have one goal: grasp as much as they can (e.g. This new tax rule) so that this circus can continue... I never talk about politics in forums but this time I could not control myself... :-( Erik That is probably why the 'UK' wants to get away from the EU with its fat bodies clogging up the corridors of ugly 70s buildings in Brussels. It would be 'nice' is England could see that the way Brussels behaves towards the 'UK' echos the way England behaves towards Scotland! What is the EU? Well, as far as I can see it has 2 reasons to exist: 1. So that people who cannot do anything productive can become EU bureaucrats and cream off the fat of those of us who do work. 2. To help semi-criminal countries such as Bulgaria (I know I live in Bulgaria) suck the hard-earned money of honest Germans and English people as EU grants (my god, you should just see how crook those grant proposals are). Of course the inevitable consequence of this shambles is that it tempts us hard workers into becoming tax dodgers . . . at which point things get into some sort of negative feedback downward spiral into Mafia-land. Well said Erik, echos my own very real cynicism. They can take their 'VAT' and stuff it up their fat European Union bottoms. Richmond. ___ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[OT] baby
Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Thought as much, Mike. Only wondered if I had missed some new keyword among all the enhancements recently made by the mothereship. As the years advance I find I miss more than I used to, and what don't miss I forget! Hugh Senior FLCo Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Was curious and tried it. 4000 controls, took 107 milliseconds to index, on my system. It picked up datagrid behaviors too. local sObehaveListA on mouseUp put the milliseconds into tStart put empty into sObehaveListA repeat with i = 1 to (the number of controls of this stack) if the behavior of control i is not empty then put the name of control i cr after sObehaveListA[(the behavior of control i)] end if end repeat put the milliseconds - tStart cr put the keys of sObehaveListA after msg end mouseUp ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congratulations! So pleased for you! Gerry On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 at 7:14 am, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Wonderful news ! Congratuations. -- Alex. On 27/11/2014 20:14, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congrats, Monte! ~Roger On Nov 27, 2014 3:14 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congrats Monte and Rebecca. Best wishes. - eric On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:14, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congrats on a new life adventure. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congrats Monte and Rebecca. Lots of « Créer, donner, aimer » to Sarah. Warm Regards, Pierre Le 27 nov. 2014 à 21:14, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com a écrit : Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congratulations!! Sent from my iPhone On 27 Nov 2014, at 20:14, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
How exciting! The best to you and your family. Bill Vlahos Sent from my iPhone On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congratulations. The best for you three. Alain Vézina, directeur Logilangue 514-596-1385 www.logilangue.com Le 2014-11-27 à 15:14, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com a écrit : Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congratulations!!! Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 27-nov.-2014 om 21:14 heeft Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com het volgende geschreven: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Button is behavior
Mind if I ask why you need this? Always interested in the hows and whys of others, which often gives me new ideas I may not have otherwise had. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:19 PM, FlexibleLearning.com ad...@flexiblelearning.com wrote: Thought as much, Mike. Only wondered if I had missed some new keyword among all the enhancements recently made by the mothereship. As the years advance I find I miss more than I used to, and what don't miss I forget! Hugh Senior FLCo Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Was curious and tried it. 4000 controls, took 107 milliseconds to index, on my system. It picked up datagrid behaviors too. local sObehaveListA on mouseUp put the milliseconds into tStart put empty into sObehaveListA repeat with i = 1 to (the number of controls of this stack) if the behavior of control i is not empty then put the name of control i cr after sObehaveListA[(the behavior of control i)] end if end repeat put the milliseconds - tStart cr put the keys of sObehaveListA after msg end mouseUp ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congrats! And prayers too. On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Marc Van Cauwenberghe marc.vancauwenber...@pandora.be wrote: Congratulations!!! Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 27-nov.-2014 om 21:14 heeft Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com het volgende geschreven: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [OT] baby
Congrats! Nakia Brewer | Technology Solutions Manager | Equipment Management Solutions t: (02) 49645051 | m: 0458 713 547 | i: www.westrac.com.au ACN 009 342 572 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Monte Goulding Sent: Friday, 28 November 2014 7:14 AM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: [OT] baby Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode COPYRIGHT / DISCLAIMER: This message and/or including attached files may contain confidential proprietary or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from using, reproducing, disclosing or distributing the information contained in this email without authorisation from WesTrac. If you have received this message in error please contact WesTrac on +61 8 9377 9444. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. We reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: External files in Standalones
Marty: Where do you put the folders that contain external binary and image data? The App Wrapper somehow loses the path to them. The standalone that Livecode creates finds these files, but App Wrapper somehow loses the link, even tho the files are still present. So, I’m worrying over how to organize the external files so that the process goes smoothly. Bill On Nov 27, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.com wrote: Ohanaware has just released App Wrapper 3 which I'm using (I'm just code signing, not using the App Store though) with success. Sam Rowlands is a great guy and has specifically worked with RunRev to make his product compatible with Livecode. Version 3 will take of Apple's new version 2 requirements. http://www.ohanaware.com/ Marty Knapp Tom, I've been developing a large app in LC, while learning LC, and am just now at the stage of building a standalone. So, I haven't faced the apple store requirements yet. I guess I should spend more time looking at the forums, because for now I've concentrated on this list for info, and building the app for a January deadline. My plan for now is to finish the app, use InstallerMaker to build an installer, and send it to UC Santa Barbara for testing in an Earth Disasters course. This replaces an older app I made in Director. Then I'm going to add more bells and whistles, and try to get it into the Apple store. It would be really great if I could anticipate future problems with file structures, etc. ultimately, I will look at iPad deployment. One of the problems I've run into is the application builder changes the file structure and images that I have linked to controls lose their links when a standalone is built. But in general, It would be really useful if there was a place where sample file structures, application builder oddities, and apple store complexities were posted. The Livecode tutorials are laughably brief and un-informative, and I've googled to no avail. Any directions or links would be most welcome. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Nov 27, 2014, at 8:45 AM, tbodine bod...@bodinetraininggames.com wrote: Hi Bill. Have you run into any problems yet with your Mac standalone getting rejected by Gatekeeper under 10.9.5 or later? Apparently the app bundle structure is under new restrictions with Apple's V2 codesigning rules, Resources should not be located in directories where the system expects to find signed code. Also, just curious, are you aiming for the Mac App Store with this or are you releasing it as a 3rd party developer? -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/External-files-in-Standalones-tp4686277p4686304.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Monte, congratulations to you and your wife! Matthias Am 27.11.2014 um 21:14 schrieb Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congratulations to you and Rebecca - and to Sarah Hello newbie! - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-baby-tp4686315p4686332.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [OT] baby
Margaret and I send our love. Congrats!! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net div Original message /divdivFrom: Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com /divdivDate:11/27/2014 15:14 (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com /divdivSubject: [OT] baby /divdiv /divHi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Best wishes to you and your family. It truly is a day for Thanksgiving. And maybe we all have a new microcoder among us! That would be grand. :-) Mike Original Message From: Ralph DiMola Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 8:43 PM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: RE: [OT] baby Margaret and I send our love. Congrats!! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net div Original message /divdivFrom: Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com /divdivDate:11/27/2014 15:14 (GMT-05:00) /divdivTo: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com /divdivSubject: [OT] baby /divdiv /divHi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Congrats Monte!!! Best, Steve MacLean On Nov 27, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Need list of books available for LiveCode
on Mon, 24 Nov 2014 Andre Garzia wrote: I know some of the books available about LiveCode but I am sure I am missing some more recent endeavours. Can you folks provide me with replies listing the current and future books available? I own livecodebooks.com and I want to set it up like I did for firefoxosbooks.org Hi Andre, These are the Livecode books that I remember in this moment: http://www.amazon.com/LiveCode-Mobile-Development-Beginners-Guide/dp/1849692483 http://www.amazon.com/LiveCode-Mobile-Development-Hotshot-Lavieri/dp/1849697485 http://www.amazon.com/LiveCode-Mobile-Development-Cookbook-Lavieri/dp/1783558822 http://www3.economy-x-talk.com/file.php?node=book%253A-programming-livecode-for-real-starters http://livecodegamedeveloper.com/book.html *Dan Schafer's* book Revolution at the Speed of Thought, Vol. 1 and hundreds of tutorials on the Web, that paints a more accurate portrait of Livecode's programming methods. Alejandro ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
On 11/27/2014 10:14 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte The ultimate excuse! Congratulations: here's hoping your daughter will be both as difficult and as wonderful as my children. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: [OT] baby
Wonderful news Monte. Congratulations! -Mark On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Monte Goulding mo...@sweattechnologies.com wrote: Hi Folks We just had a baby so I won't be able to get to mergExt related questions for a few days. Rebecca(mum) and Sarah(bub) are doing well but Sarah has a few breathing issues so needs some extra O2 for a while. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
