\"System\" font on Mac - diff between LC 8 and LC 9?

2017-04-11 Thread James Hale via use-livecode
Hmm.
Seems this has been sort of noted but no mention is made of the fix.
http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17344
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Re: LC and OneSignal

2017-04-11 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Hi Dan - when you say you have it running on iOS, do you mean within an LC iOS 
app? If so, some info on how you got it to work would be fantastic (I couldn’t 
figure out how to implement it). No experience with using it with Android, 
sorry.

Terry...

On 12/04/2017 2:54 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Dan Friedman via 
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Hello!  Has anyone implemented push messaging with OneSignal 
(https://onesignal.com)?  It’s running great for me on iOS, but can’t get it to 
work correctly with a LiveCode Android app.  Anyone have any expierence with LC 
and OneSignal?

-Dan 

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LC and OneSignal

2017-04-11 Thread Dan Friedman via use-livecode
Hello!  Has anyone implemented push messaging with OneSignal 
(https://onesignal.com)?  It’s running great for me on iOS, but can’t get it to 
work correctly with a LiveCode Android app.  Anyone have any expierence with LC 
and OneSignal?

-Dan 

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Re: "System" font on Mac - diff between LC 8 and LC 9??

2017-04-11 Thread Colin Holgate via use-livecode
Yes, same here. I’m on 10.12.5, but I imagine it would behave the same on older 
systems.


> On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:14 PM, James Hale via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could other with a Mac please give this a go to see if my observation is 
> local to my machine alone?
> 
> Create a new stack in LC8 and place a field.
> Open the message box and enter...
>set the htmltext of fld 1 to "this is bold and this is 
> italic"
> 
> You should see 
>  this is bold and this is italic
> (assuming the styles survive the emailing)
> Now open the PI for the field and click on the FONT tab.
> I think by default the font is called "Text" and it is one of the Lc named 
> options.
> Now change the font to "system".
> 
> Do the styles remain visible in the field?
> 
> Repeat the above with LC 9
> 
> For me...
> With LC8 the styles disappear.
> With LC9 they don't.
> 
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
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"System" font on Mac - diff between LC 8 and LC 9??

2017-04-11 Thread James Hale via use-livecode
Could other with a Mac please give this a go to see if my observation is local 
to my machine alone?

Create a new stack in LC8 and place a field.
Open the message box and enter...
 set the htmltext of fld 1 to "this is bold and this is 
italic"

You should see 
  this is bold and this is italic
(assuming the styles survive the emailing)
Now open the PI for the field and click on the FONT tab.
I think by default the font is called "Text" and it is one of the Lc named 
options.
Now change the font to "system".

Do the styles remain visible in the field?

Repeat the above with LC 9

For me...
With LC8 the styles disappear.
With LC9 they don't.



James




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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 4/11/17 9:17 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 4/11/17 5:17 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 12 Apr 2017, at 4:48 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
 wrote:

And it is still putting up the alert on launch. Seems I'm stuck
with it.


Hmm… that’s odd. I’ll ask the team if anyone has any ideas why this
is occurring. Just to make sure you aren’t saving anything within the
LC app bundle are you?


Nope. I just checked the dates on most of the files to be sure and they
all say March 8, so nothing has changed there. I wonder if it's
Mavericks. The firewall doesn't seem to recognize LCdp6.



I wrote "Mavericks" but that was a think-o. I'm running El Capitan, in 
case it matters.


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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 4/11/17 5:17 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:



On 12 Apr 2017, at 4:48 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
 wrote:

And it is still putting up the alert on launch. Seems I'm stuck
with it.


Hmm… that’s odd. I’ll ask the team if anyone has any ideas why this
is occurring. Just to make sure you aren’t saving anything within the
LC app bundle are you?


Nope. I just checked the dates on most of the files to be sure and they 
all say March 8, so nothing has changed there. I wonder if it's 
Mavericks. The firewall doesn't seem to recognize LCdp6.


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Re: mergMicrophone - audio format suitable for Windows playback?

2017-04-11 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
HI David – yeah, I’d love to use Keynote for this instead of Powerpoint but all 
the data in the .key archive is binary so not easily manipulated in the same 
way as it is in .pptx files. Powerpoint on the Mac actually does an excellent 
job of exporting to video – it just doesn’t include the audio. If it did I’d be 
using a combination of Applescript and Powerpoint on the Mac to handle all the 
video exports.

Terry...

On 12/04/2017 2:24 am, "use-livecode on behalf of David V Glasgow via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

I often create video from Keynote for credit/idents etc, which works very 
well.   Not sure how it would handle sound though.  If it did retain sound you 
could just import the PPT template into Keynote (might need a bit of tweaking) 
then you could skip the Windows bit completely.

Cheers,

David Glasgow


> On 11 Apr 2017, at 1:36 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
 wrote:
> 
> Yeah, this is a bit of a bodged together process. I have a ‘template’ 
Powerpoint file that I modify by swapping screen text, images and audio (.pptx 
files are actually .zip archives so I can do this using revZip). The audio 
files, which are themselves derived from templated scripts using revSpeech in 
conjunction with Sound Siphon are created on the Mac. The now personalised PPT 
files (potentially 100s of these) then need to be converted to videos for 
upload to Vimeo and this has to be done on Windows as these are no PPT to video 
utilities on the Mac that preserve the audio. So, it’s all (preferably) done 
without ever officially opening the files in PPT on the Windows side (I 
definitely need a solution that doesn’t require me to manually handle 
individual files). I think I probably have to look at batch processing the 
audio files into a Windows friendly format on the Mac side before switching 
them into the PPT files.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> On 11/04/2017 9:39 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller via 
use-livecode"  wrote:
> 
>Any add-on in the merg suite is likely to only use Apple centric 
formats.
>I would let Windows PPT convert the audio, then if playback is 
suitable on
>both platforms, distribute the converted file.
> 
>On Apr 11, 2017 2:53 AM, "Terry Judd via use-livecode" <
>use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’m using mergMicrophone (on OSX) with default settings to record audio
>> (from revSpeech) for inclusion in Powerpoint presentations, but when I 
open
>> the PPT files on a Windows computer (so that I can export them to video,
>> retaining the sound) it complains about the sound files being in an
>> inappropriate format and that it needs to convert them (through some
>> internal process) before it can use them. This would be ok but I’ve
>> potentially got hundreds of these PPT files and need to avoid the PPT
>> conversion step.
>> 
>> Any ideas on what mergMicrophone I should be using to record the audio
>> files for them to be more Windows friendly?
>> 
>> Terry...
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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode

> On 12 Apr 2017, at 4:48 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> And it is still putting up the alert on launch. Seems I'm stuck with it.

Hmm… that’s odd. I’ll ask the team if anyone has any ideas why this is 
occurring. Just to make sure you aren’t saving anything within the LC app 
bundle are you?

Cheers

Monte
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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 4/11/17 1:07 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

I just added dp6 to the firewall manually.


And it is still putting up the alert on launch. Seems I'm stuck with it.

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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 4/11/17 1:01 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:

On 4/11/17 1:35 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


Yes the IDE is accepting connections for the remote debugger to work.
Standalones then open sockets to the IDE. You should only get this
dialog if you don’t allow signed apps to accept connections by
default and/or don’t allow it the first time you run LC. Once you
allow it you shouldn’t see this again unless LC gets modified or
something.


I always answer "yes" to the dialog and I still get it every launch. The
firewall is set to accept connections to signed software. I see LC
9.0dp5 in the acceptance list but not dp6. If it matters, the Mac is
running Mavericks.



I just added dp6 to the firewall manually. My guess is that the Mac 
reads the name of the app and determines it's a "new" app but when the 
firewall actually checks for it, it sees dp 6 as an update rather than a 
different app and doesn't update its acceptance list. That's purely a 
guess though. It still doesn't explain why the automatic acceptance of 
signed apps doesn't allow the connection by default.


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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode

On 4/11/17 1:35 AM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote:


Yes the IDE is accepting connections for the remote debugger to work.
Standalones then open sockets to the IDE. You should only get this
dialog if you don’t allow signed apps to accept connections by
default and/or don’t allow it the first time you run LC. Once you
allow it you shouldn’t see this again unless LC gets modified or
something.


I always answer "yes" to the dialog and I still get it every launch. The 
firewall is set to accept connections to signed software. I see LC 
9.0dp5 in the acceptance list but not dp6. If it matters, the Mac is 
running Mavericks.


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AW: vertical text?

2017-04-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Ah, nice trick ;)
Thanks, Tiemo

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Betreff: Re: vertical text?

Tiemo,
I do this by creating a text field, putting the text into it, sizing it to
just fit the text, capturing it to an image, rotating and placing the image
of the text field, then deleting the source text field.
Bill

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> On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
 wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is there any trick or tweak to create real vertical text (rotated text 
> field by -90deg)?
> 
> Up to now, I workaround with an text img I rotated in photoshop.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: mergMicrophone - audio format suitable for Windows playback?

2017-04-11 Thread David V Glasgow via use-livecode
I often create video from Keynote for credit/idents etc, which works very well. 
  Not sure how it would handle sound though.  If it did retain sound you could 
just import the PPT template into Keynote (might need a bit of tweaking) then 
you could skip the Windows bit completely.

Cheers,

David Glasgow


> On 11 Apr 2017, at 1:36 pm, Terry Judd via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, this is a bit of a bodged together process. I have a ‘template’ 
> Powerpoint file that I modify by swapping screen text, images and audio 
> (.pptx files are actually .zip archives so I can do this using revZip). The 
> audio files, which are themselves derived from templated scripts using 
> revSpeech in conjunction with Sound Siphon are created on the Mac. The now 
> personalised PPT files (potentially 100s of these) then need to be converted 
> to videos for upload to Vimeo and this has to be done on Windows as these are 
> no PPT to video utilities on the Mac that preserve the audio. So, it’s all 
> (preferably) done without ever officially opening the files in PPT on the 
> Windows side (I definitely need a solution that doesn’t require me to 
> manually handle individual files). I think I probably have to look at batch 
> processing the audio files into a Windows friendly format on the Mac side 
> before switching them into the PPT files.
> 
> Terry...
> 
> On 11/04/2017 9:39 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>Any add-on in the merg suite is likely to only use Apple centric formats.
>I would let Windows PPT convert the audio, then if playback is suitable on
>both platforms, distribute the converted file.
> 
>On Apr 11, 2017 2:53 AM, "Terry Judd via use-livecode" <
>use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’m using mergMicrophone (on OSX) with default settings to record audio
>> (from revSpeech) for inclusion in Powerpoint presentations, but when I open
>> the PPT files on a Windows computer (so that I can export them to video,
>> retaining the sound) it complains about the sound files being in an
>> inappropriate format and that it needs to convert them (through some
>> internal process) before it can use them. This would be ok but I’ve
>> potentially got hundreds of these PPT files and need to avoid the PPT
>> conversion step.
>> 
>> Any ideas on what mergMicrophone I should be using to record the audio
>> files for them to be more Windows friendly?
>> 
>> Terry...
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Re: vertical text?

2017-04-11 Thread prothero--- via use-livecode
Tiemo,
I do this by creating a text field, putting the text into it, sizing it to just 
fit the text, capturing it to an image, rotating and placing the image of the 
text field, then deleting the source text field.
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

> On Apr 11, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Is there any trick or tweak to create real vertical text (rotated text field
> by -90deg)?
> 
> Up to now, I workaround with an text img I rotated in photoshop.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tiemo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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vertical text?

2017-04-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Hello,

Is there any trick or tweak to create real vertical text (rotated text field
by -90deg)?

Up to now, I workaround with an text img I rotated in photoshop.

Thanks

Tiemo

 

 

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Widget message normalization

2017-04-11 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Should widgets allow the same sorts of common messages that are largely 
universal to other controls?


Perhaps as a default, which could be overridden by the widget developer?

This would assume there is some sort of superclass for widgets, so that 
adding this could be done once and all widgets would benefit.


We've seen some posts here about mouse-related messages in which the 
developers using a widget were surprised to find those messages aren't 
available.


Today this comes to mind while using the tree control widget: most tree 
controls I've used (all that I can recall, really) allow arrow keys to 
navigate the list - up and down select upwards and downwards, and the 
left and right keys open and collapse the selected line, respectively.


I don't mind adding custom code for this, but I found the tree control 
widget doesn't seem to trap arrowKey messages at all.


Given other compromised uses the tree control vs rolling my own with a 
field (sort order either doesn't allow mixed numeric and alphabetical 
types or throws errors, minimally modifiable appearance, etc.) I'm 
inclined to write my own.


But then I got to thinking:  how often might one consider rolling a 
custom solution because a supplied widget isn't quite as flexible as a 
given use requires?


And with that, how many of those use-cases might be resolvable if 
widgets received the same messages other controls get?


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anybody using curl on LC - Server on windows?

2017-04-11 Thread Brill, Malte via use-livecode

Hi all,

I have a little trouble getting cUrl to work with LC Server under Win 10 
/ apache. While cUrl works on the commandline, when called from LC 
Server via Shell, I always get error(27) Out of memory as a result...


Anybody wiser than me seen this and might share some insights?

Cheers,

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Re: mergMicrophone - audio format suitable for Windows playback?

2017-04-11 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
Yeah, this is a bit of a bodged together process. I have a ‘template’ 
Powerpoint file that I modify by swapping screen text, images and audio (.pptx 
files are actually .zip archives so I can do this using revZip). The audio 
files, which are themselves derived from templated scripts using revSpeech in 
conjunction with Sound Siphon are created on the Mac. The now personalised PPT 
files (potentially 100s of these) then need to be converted to videos for 
upload to Vimeo and this has to be done on Windows as these are no PPT to video 
utilities on the Mac that preserve the audio. So, it’s all (preferably) done 
without ever officially opening the files in PPT on the Windows side (I 
definitely need a solution that doesn’t require me to manually handle 
individual files). I think I probably have to look at batch processing the 
audio files into a Windows friendly format on the Mac side before switching 
them into the PPT files.

Terry...

On 11/04/2017 9:39 pm, "use-livecode on behalf of Roger Eller via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

Any add-on in the merg suite is likely to only use Apple centric formats.
I would let Windows PPT convert the audio, then if playback is suitable on
both platforms, distribute the converted file.

On Apr 11, 2017 2:53 AM, "Terry Judd via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I’m using mergMicrophone (on OSX) with default settings to record audio
> (from revSpeech) for inclusion in Powerpoint presentations, but when I 
open
> the PPT files on a Windows computer (so that I can export them to video,
> retaining the sound) it complains about the sound files being in an
> inappropriate format and that it needs to convert them (through some
> internal process) before it can use them. This would be ok but I’ve
> potentially got hundreds of these PPT files and need to avoid the PPT
> conversion step.
>
> Any ideas on what mergMicrophone I should be using to record the audio
> files for them to be more Windows friendly?
>
> Terry...
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List of properties per widget and examples

2017-04-11 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi all,

We have noticed that several people are not aware of some useful resources
that exist in the dictionary, about widgets and libraries:

1. Open the Dictionary in the IDE
2. In the API tab, click on the "Choose API" pulldown menu
3. Select e.g. "Header Bar" widget
4. In the results, see all the "Header Bar"-related dictionary entries, as
well as some examples.
5. Note that the pulldown menu in (2) includes not only widgets but also
libraries (JSON, mime, oath etc)

Hope this helps :)

Best,
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Re: mergMicrophone - audio format suitable for Windows playback?

2017-04-11 Thread Roger Eller via use-livecode
Any add-on in the merg suite is likely to only use Apple centric formats.
I would let Windows PPT convert the audio, then if playback is suitable on
both platforms, distribute the converted file.

On Apr 11, 2017 2:53 AM, "Terry Judd via use-livecode" <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> I’m using mergMicrophone (on OSX) with default settings to record audio
> (from revSpeech) for inclusion in Powerpoint presentations, but when I open
> the PPT files on a Windows computer (so that I can export them to video,
> retaining the sound) it complains about the sound files being in an
> inappropriate format and that it needs to convert them (through some
> internal process) before it can use them. This would be ok but I’ve
> potentially got hundreds of these PPT files and need to avoid the PPT
> conversion step.
>
> Any ideas on what mergMicrophone I should be using to record the audio
> files for them to be more Windows friendly?
>
> Terry...
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AW: any secrets printing only a section from a card?

2017-04-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode
Yes, that's my experience too. I also tested the printScale without success.
I now, created a separate print stack, copied all objects to that card and
print the whole card.
Thanks
Tiemo


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Betreff: Re: any secrets printing only a section from a card?

This might be an older issue. I have been struggling with that myself, in
context of producing PDFs, in version 7. Only printing the full card works
reliably. Any other option produces a different output but not the desired
one, at least not reliably.

On 10 Apr 2017, at 12:06, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote:

> Hello,
>
> LC 8.1.4, Win 10. (Same with LC 6-9) When printing a whole card with 
> just "print card" everything of the card is being printed fine, only 
> stretched to the papersize.
>
> But when trying to print only a part of the  card by "print card from 
> myLeftTop to myRightBottom into page Rect" I never get the wanted 
> rectangle being printed into the pageRect. It is always clipped 
> somewhere and only a small part of the wanted rectangle is being 
> printed. I have also tried to set the printpapersize and printmargins 
> and fiddled around with different rectangle sizes, but didn't got the 
> wanted section.
>
> Are there any secret conversion factors, when printing "from to"?
>
> Thanks for any hint
>
> Tiemo
>
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Re: any secrets printing only a section from a card?

2017-04-11 Thread Robert Brenstein via use-livecode
This might be an older issue. I have been struggling with that myself, 
in context of producing PDFs, in version 7. Only printing the full card 
works reliably. Any other option produces a different output but not the 
desired one, at least not reliably.


On 10 Apr 2017, at 12:06, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode wrote:


Hello,

LC 8.1.4, Win 10. (Same with LC 6-9) When printing a whole card with 
just
"print card" everything of the card is being printed fine, only 
stretched to

the papersize.

But when trying to print only a part of the  card by "print card from
myLeftTop to myRightBottom into page Rect" I never get the wanted 
rectangle
being printed into the pageRect. It is always clipped somewhere and 
only a
small part of the wanted rectangle is being printed. I have also tried 
to
set the printpapersize and printmargins and fiddled around with 
different

rectangle sizes, but didn't got the wanted section.

Are there any secret conversion factors, when printing "from to"?

Thanks for any hint

Tiemo


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mergMicrophone - audio format suitable for Windows playback?

2017-04-11 Thread Terry Judd via use-livecode
I’m using mergMicrophone (on OSX) with default settings to record audio (from 
revSpeech) for inclusion in Powerpoint presentations, but when I open the PPT 
files on a Windows computer (so that I can export them to video, retaining the 
sound) it complains about the sound files being in an inappropriate format and 
that it needs to convert them (through some internal process) before it can use 
them. This would be ok but I’ve potentially got hundreds of these PPT files and 
need to avoid the PPT conversion step.

Any ideas on what mergMicrophone I should be using to record the audio files 
for them to be more Windows friendly?

Terry...
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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread Paul Hibbert via use-livecode
Just checked my Firewall settings and there’s no entry for LC, but I’m not 
seeing any trigger, I’ve used LC 9.0 (dp6) quite a few times since install and 
no problem so-far!

Mac OS Sierra 10.12.4

Paul

 
> On 10 Apr 2017, at 23:21, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> LC 9.0dp6 triggers the OS X firewall every time I launch it. I know I can set 
> the firewall to accept LC so it won't warn me, but I'm wondering what LC is 
> doing that makes that happen. I suspect it has something to do with remote 
> debugging. Does anyone know?
> 
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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Re: OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode

> On 11 Apr 2017, at 4:21 pm, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> LC 9.0dp6 triggers the OS X firewall every time I launch it. I know I can set 
> the firewall to accept LC so it won't warn me, but I'm wondering what LC is 
> doing that makes that happen. I suspect it has something to do with remote 
> debugging. Does anyone know?

Yes the IDE is accepting connections for the remote debugger to work. 
Standalones then open sockets to the IDE. You should only get this dialog if 
you don’t allow signed apps to accept connections by default and/or don’t allow 
it the first time you run LC. Once you allow it you shouldn’t see this again 
unless LC gets modified or something.

Cheers

Monte
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OS X Firewall triggering on launch

2017-04-11 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
LC 9.0dp6 triggers the OS X firewall every time I launch it. I know I 
can set the firewall to accept LC so it won't warn me, but I'm wondering 
what LC is doing that makes that happen. I suspect it has something to 
do with remote debugging. Does anyone know?


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Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com
HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

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