Re: Odd Files in an Android apk
Maybe because I built a single app containing both 32 and 64 bit architectures. Maybe I got double points. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com On August 4, 2020 5:57:10 PM scott--- via use-livecode wrote: Hmm… I saw a reduction of a few MB (which was nice!) but nothing like what you got. — Scott Morrow On Aug 4, 2020, at 3:42 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Wow. I just built an update to an Android app with LC 9.6.1rc2 and the size went from 47MB to 21MB. Nice. On 8/2/20 11:51 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hello Dan, This bug was fixed for 9.6.0, but (accidentally) it did not make it into 9.6.1 rc-1. It will be fixed in 9.6.1 RC-2. You can apply the fix locally, until RC-2 is released: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7413/files Kind regards, Panos -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has anyone created a specialised mobile keyboard?
I would encourage you to consider very carefully the standard keyboard layouts provided by the OS before embarking on a custom one. It's not only a lot of work to make a keyboard, but the common ones are very good, with Swype-like behavior, word prediction, and other things that can be cost-prohibitive for a solo dev to implement. Users are *very* accustomed to standard input controls. Deviating from those may be useful in unusual designs, but given the high value of consistency for common tasks like text entry you'll want to weigh the pros and cons carefully before deciding your use-case is too far outside of those supported by the OS. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Graham Samuel wrote: > What I want to do is to design my own keyboard with numerals and a > few additional special symbols, but I don’t know if it’s possible > to do in native mode, as it were. > > Graham > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 4 Aug 2020, at 14:41, JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode at lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> You can set which keyboard you want, like email, numeric >> >> it's in the dictionary, search on mobile keyboard >> ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
JeeJeeStudio wrote: > 1 positive thing then on a thing we don't have in LC and now also is > removed...the possibility to put ads in your LC created mobile app... "Possible" is a big word. It covers nearly everything. It's possible to use LC Build to support ad network APIs. It's also possible to find saner ad networks that offer REST APIs in addition to binary, so devs don't need to commit as much development time for one vendor. It's possible but less likely that an app not worth monetizing through freemiums, direct payment, or other model will earn enough to bring a positive ROI for the effort of implementing ads. It's less likely that you'll be able to shoe-horn someone else's ads into your app design without impairing the user experience. Lots of things are possible. Fewer things are likely. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has anyone created a specialised mobile keyboard?
Hi Graham, I suspect that you will have to roll your own keyboard. You could take little screenshots of the native keys that you want, and then move them to where you want them to appear in your keyboard. Then just detect when someone has hit each of the keys and record the order. Easy? Good luck and let us know how it goes! Rick > On Aug 4, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > What I want to do is to design my own keyboard with numerals and a few > additional special symbols, but I don’t know if it’s possible to do in native > mode, as it were. > > Graham > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd Files in an Android apk
Hmm… I saw a reduction of a few MB (which was nice!) but nothing like what you got. — Scott Morrow > On Aug 4, 2020, at 3:42 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Wow. I just built an update to an Android app with LC 9.6.1rc2 and the size > went from 47MB to 21MB. > > Nice. > > On 8/2/20 11:51 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: >> Hello Dan, >> This bug was fixed for 9.6.0, but (accidentally) it did not make it into >> 9.6.1 rc-1. >> It will be fixed in 9.6.1 RC-2. >> You can apply the fix locally, until RC-2 is released: >> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7413/files >> Kind regards, >> Panos > > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has anyone created a specialised mobile keyboard?
On 8/4/20 3:57 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: What I want to do is to design my own keyboard with numerals and a few additional special symbols, but I don’t know if it’s possible to do in native mode, as it were. You have to write keyboards in Swift or Kotlin or whatever language the OS accepts. If you want to use only LC you'll have to do it with a LC group or something similar; LC can't produce OS-native keyboards. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Odd Files in an Android apk
Wow. I just built an update to an Android app with LC 9.6.1rc2 and the size went from 47MB to 21MB. Nice. On 8/2/20 11:51 PM, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: Hello Dan, This bug was fixed for 9.6.0, but (accidentally) it did not make it into 9.6.1 rc-1. It will be fixed in 9.6.1 RC-2. You can apply the fix locally, until RC-2 is released: https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/7413/files Kind regards, Panos -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has anyone created a specialised mobile keyboard?
What I want to do is to design my own keyboard with numerals and a few additional special symbols, but I don’t know if it’s possible to do in native mode, as it were. Graham Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Aug 2020, at 14:41, JeeJeeStudio via use-livecode > wrote: > > You can set which keyboard you want, like email, numeric > > it's in the dictionary, search on mobile keyboard > > > Op 4-8-2020 om 13:22 schreef Graham Samuel via use-livecode: >> In the iOS app I’m developing, it would be nice (I mean less confusing for >> the user) to display a keyboard with only certain keys - numerals and >> certain other letters and symbols, on the lines of the various native >> keyboards available (numeric, email etc). I see that I can create one from >> scratch using graphics and buttons, but I wondered if there is a more >> native-style trick to this. I know so little about iOS APIs - I thought >> perhaps someone with more knowledge might have tried it. >> >> Graham >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: ProtonMail vs Apple
Or a trailer for sale or rent. Also... you slowly give up your rights and individuality with every bit of "cradle to grave" security you embrace, be it in big tech or government. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2020 3:38 PM To: Dev via use-livecode Cc: Mark Wieder Subject: Re: ProtonMail vs Apple On 8/4/20 11:39 AM, Dev via use-livecode wrote: > I think that the changes being made are actually done from a protectionist perspective in an increasingly hostile digital world. The point here, though, is that Apple is now demanding that anything sold through mobile ads requires a 30% tribute, whether it's sold online or elsewhere in the real world. This is a different thing from the security arguments and gets us back to where you can owe your soul to the Company Store. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
1 positive thing then on a thing we don't have in LC and now also is removed...the possibility to put ads in your LC created mobile app... Op di 4 aug. 2020 21:38 schreef Mark Wieder via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > On 8/4/20 11:39 AM, Dev via use-livecode wrote: > > > I think that the changes being made are actually done from a > protectionist perspective in an increasingly hostile digital world. > > The point here, though, is that Apple is now demanding that anything > sold through mobile ads requires a 30% tribute, whether it's sold online > or elsewhere in the real world. This is a different thing from the > security arguments and gets us back to where you can owe your soul to > the Company Store. > > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
On 8/4/20 11:39 AM, Dev via use-livecode wrote: > I think that the changes being made are actually done from a protectionist perspective in an increasingly hostile digital world. The point here, though, is that Apple is now demanding that anything sold through mobile ads requires a 30% tribute, whether it's sold online or elsewhere in the real world. This is a different thing from the security arguments and gets us back to where you can owe your soul to the Company Store. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
It may feel like a monopoly because Apple takes 80% of the profits in the overall field of mobile apps. Generally, Android users don’t pay for apps, iOS users will. So a choice to NOT develop for iOS has some severe economic consequences that a developer has to think about. There are many complaints about the Apple process when dealing with the App Store. I am not a fanboy although I do use Apple products of all kinds, but I think that the changes being made are actually done from a protectionist perspective in an increasingly hostile digital world. You may complain about the walled garden and the ‘Mummy knows best’ perspective that Apple projects, but you are the elite of the computing world because you are developers and programmers. For the Moms & Pops & Grandparents out there that have no idea how this magical device connects them with their grandkids, the safety net is essential and required. It might be nice to have a ‘Dev mode’ on the phone where you can mess about - but like backdoors in encryption - can it be done safely with out the bad guys doing exactly the same to Granny’s phone? Yes, I’m frustrated by the moving target aspects of developing - especially with LiveCode where we always seem to be a version or two behind and playing catch up. But on the other hand I feel a whole lot better pointing my parents at the Apple App Store and knowing that they will be relatively safe with anything in there and that their hardware is also as safe as possible as well. If I want to run Linux and do whatever I want with my hardware, that is my choice. But I am part of the 1% in wanting to do this, and I can make my own choices. I DO NOT want my parents (or grandchildren) to be doing that though. Like the TV shows and websites say - Don’t try this at home- leave it to the professionals. > On 4Aug, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Jim Lambert via use-livecode > wrote: > > That article is an interesting read. > > Still these two sentences: > > Apple is using its monopoly to hold all of us hostage > Apple’s iOS controls 25% of the global smartphone market (the other 75%, is > largely controlled by Google’s Android). > > are self contradictory. By definition a company with 25% of the market is not > a monopoly. > > Jim Lambert > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
It's not a contradictory, Apple has Worldwide Monopoly of iOs and the Apple store. I don't know any other store for Apple iOs software. (are there?) As for Android there are multiple stores (yes Google hold the monopoly of the OS itself) Op di 4 aug. 2020 om 20:20 schreef Jim Lambert via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > That article is an interesting read. > > Still these two sentences: > > Apple is using its monopoly to hold all of us hostage > Apple’s iOS controls 25% of the global smartphone market (the other 75%, > is largely controlled by Google’s Android). > > are self contradictory. By definition a company with 25% of the market is > not a monopoly. > > Jim Lambert > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
That article is an interesting read. Still these two sentences: Apple is using its monopoly to hold all of us hostage Apple’s iOS controls 25% of the global smartphone market (the other 75%, is largely controlled by Google’s Android). are self contradictory. By definition a company with 25% of the market is not a monopoly. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Has anyone created a specialised mobile keyboard?
You can set which keyboard you want, like email, numeric it's in the dictionary, search on mobile keyboard Op 4-8-2020 om 13:22 schreef Graham Samuel via use-livecode: In the iOS app I’m developing, it would be nice (I mean less confusing for the user) to display a keyboard with only certain keys - numerals and certain other letters and symbols, on the lines of the various native keyboards available (numeric, email etc). I see that I can create one from scratch using graphics and buttons, but I wondered if there is a more native-style trick to this. I know so little about iOS APIs - I thought perhaps someone with more knowledge might have tried it. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Has anyone created a specialised mobile keyboard?
In the iOS app I’m developing, it would be nice (I mean less confusing for the user) to display a keyboard with only certain keys - numerals and certain other letters and symbols, on the lines of the various native keyboards available (numeric, email etc). I see that I can create one from scratch using graphics and buttons, but I wondered if there is a more native-style trick to this. I know so little about iOS APIs - I thought perhaps someone with more knowledge might have tried it. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Apple Transporter for iOS uploads?
A month ago I was asking the question below. Circumstances stopped my development work until very recently, then I picked this up again. Just in case anyone meets the same issue I can confirm there was an answer, given by Apple Support. They said: > I have investigated the issue and I can see that you have not agreed to the > latest version of the Program License Agreement. Yes, that was it! Not at all mentioned in the app itself, but not having agreed (to something I hadn’t noticed in my IN box) stopped the program working. You would have thought an error message might have come up, but no. Graham > On 1 Jul 2020, at 21:15, Graham Samuel wrote: > > Anyone having any trouble with this app? I downloaded it and signed in with > my Apple ID, but then it got stuck displaying “signing in” with a rotatiing > progress indicator. The ‘Force Quit’ system doesn’t report it as ’not > responding’, but it doesn’t seem to be responding to me! > > iMac running Catalina 10.15.5. > > Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ProtonMail vs Apple
1 solution :Ban apple and their appstore. Your users use Apple, aah, to bad for them. First they bought overprized hardware...and the rest you know Op 3-8-2020 om 23:33 schreef Mark Wieder via use-livecode: ...catching up on some reading here. One of my email providers (ahsoftw...@protonmail.com) has gone public with some of the heavy-handed tactics Apple uses on developers. For example: "Apple has now even gone so far as to ban apps from the App Store if they refuse to offer in-app purchases for paid features that are available for purchase elsewhere. In other words, Apple wants a nearly one-third cut of your sales, regardless of whether you want to sell on their platform or not. This was precisely what happened with Proton." https://protonmail.com/blog/apple-app-store-antitrust ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
[ANN] Release 9.6.1 RC-2
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.6.1 RC-2. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.6.1 RC-2 comes with 3 regression fixes: - Inneractive Ads SDK is no longer included in Android commercial builds. - Android Barcode Scanner preview rect now matches the widget rect - tsNet iOS binaries are not included in Android builds For the full list of all fixes, updates and enhancements please see the release notes: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/9_6_1/LiveCodeNotes-9_6_1_rc_2.pdf Known issues - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with Cinnamon window manager. - The use of the Browser widget is not supported on Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit LTS yet. - The mergSettings external still uses the UIWebView API on iOS, so checking "mergSettings" in the Inclusions pane will cause an AppStore rejection, since Apple no longer accepts new apps that use UIWebView. Required Software = To build iOS apps with LiveCode you must have the appropriate versions of Xcode as follows: - macOS 10.13.4: Xcode 10.1 - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the iOS 12.1 SDK - macOS 10.14.4: Xcode 11.3.x - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the iOS 13.2 SDK - macOS 10.15.2: Xcode 11.5.x - LiveCode builds iOS apps using the iOS 13.5 SDK There is a full list of working LiveCode/macOS/Xcode combinations here: https://livecode.com/docs/9-5-0/faq/faq/ Note: Whilst we endeavour to release updated versions of LiveCode supporting the latest Xcode/iOS SDKs as quickly as possible; we strongly recommend disabling automatic update of Xcode or downloading the specific version of Xcode required directly from the Apple developer portal and installing it separately. Important: Since the end of June 2020, Apple is only accepting apps built using iOS13 SDKs. This means that, if you wish to submit apps to the AppStore, you will have to be running at least macOS 10.14 in order to be able to install the necessary version of Xcode. Feedback Please report any bugs encountered on our quality center at http://quality.livecode.com/ We have a forum available for discussing LiveCode Builder at http://forums.livecode.com/viewforum.php?f=93 Have fun! The LiveCode Team ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
