corrupted stack message
I keep getting this message: There was a problem opening that stack; stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file Luckily I did have the stack backed up. I copied my backup to the folder (6.1.1 on Windows XP) and made a few changes. Then I saved the stack. When I went to reopen my new stack I got the same message. Any advice? TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Valentina db
Hi Bob, Thanks for the detailed info. I'll look into that. Larry - Original Message - From: Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Valentina db Hi Larry. The simplest SQL database to my mind is sqLite. You can create a database by simply providing a path name and opening it using the LC built in database functions. Once the file is created, you can download the Firefox SQLite Manager plugin, open the database and begin to add tables and columns. There are tons of easy to read tutorials on the inter web on how to do select, insert and updates. The best source I think is sqlite.org itself at https://www.sqlite.org/lang.html. sqLite is very forgiving when it comes to type constraints. This is because the data is literally stored as text no matter what type the column is. Where mySQL might throw an error for storing the wrong type of data, sqLite will store whatever you tell it to. This is somewhat of a blessing, but also a curse. You really do want to know if your data is outside the parameters you’ve set. However, for those just starting out, it’s nice to not have to deal with SQL errors so much. Bob S On Oct 30, 2014, at 24:42 , la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Valentina database with LC? If so, what is your experience with it? Is it a product that a newbie (me) could reasonably learn how to use with LC? Thanks for any info, Larry P.S. If you have a recommendation for a database that is REALLY easy to use with LC, please let me know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Valentina db
Hello, Has anyone used Valentina database with LC? If so, what is your experience with it? Is it a product that a newbie (me) could reasonably learn how to use with LC? Thanks for any info, Larry P.S. If you have a recommendation for a database that is REALLY easy to use with LC, please let me know. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Valentina db
Thanks very much Kay and Tiemo! - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 2:33 AM Subject: Re: Valentina db On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:42 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, Has anyone used Valentina database with LC? Yes, for many years now. If so, what is your experience with it? Love it. Especially if you need speed and simplified table relationships - Binary Links are great. Is it a product that a newbie (me) could reasonably learn how to use with LC? Probably not at your stage. I am a hobbyist. I was moderately competent with HC when I moved to Revolution which is now LC. Because of LC db capabilities I then played with MySQL and SQLite with some success, but again I was fluent with LC at the time. In the search for more speed I went to Valentina. Having some knowledge of SQL and pretty fluent with LC made the move to Valentina less bumpy. Noting your many bumps along the path of LC enlightenment I'm not sure getting tangled with Valentina right now would be painless. I note frequent posts on the Valentina Users List about people who get stuck installing Valentina for LC. It's a simple 2 step process, but as most people's experience with installers is that it does absolutely everything for them, they regular seem to miss the need for the 2nd step. I do recommend you download Valentina Studio, it's free - I'll explain later. http://www.valentina-db.com/en/all-downloads P.S. If you have a recommendation for a database that is REALLY easy to use with LC, please let me know. Whether you are just interested in trying out LC's database capabilities, or have a real need to do something with a database, unless you definitely need something fed from a web server you can't go wrong with SQLite. It's already installed on your computer (it is for OS X and I'm pretty sure it is the same for Win and Linux) so there is ZERO installation process to go through. It's free and will always be free - unlike MySQL which has a pretty convoluted licensing structure which most people can't understand and so you'll often see a suggestion to 'contact MySQL, give them your case and see what they say'. You can download the free Valentina Studio which allows you to build, view and test SQLite dbs. Makes it really easy with LC (or any other programming environment) to test SQL statements outside of LC to determine is it the LC code that is wrong or the SQL statement. There are also plenty of online tutorials for SQLite so you can play with Valentina Studio + SQLite first, make sure you've got the basics of dbs organised and working before taking the next step and seeing if you can get LC to talk to the db you've created. Unless you have very large data sets it is unlikely that you'll notice any real speed difference. Yes, you might be able to prove that Valentina is a couple of ms faster, but to the user it all happens within the blink of an eye. Even then, if you do have huge data sets, you can do all your learning and testing with SQLite, once you feel you know what you are doing, you can download a trial version of Valentina, export all the data out of SQLite and import it into a Valentina db, create your own 'realistic' benchmark test and see the difference for yourself. You'll then know exactly what you are getting for your money. There are many LC + SQLite users on this List, and a couple of gurus, so if you run into trouble help is not far away. HTH ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to disturb newbies
Hi Peter, Just about the sanest thing I've read on here. I hope it happens. Larry One possible solution would be to build into the the native LC dictionary a userNotes feature, allowing the user to add comments or examples saved locally for her/his own reference, and within that feature allowing submission of a particular note to the community documentation team for curating for inclusion as a shared note for all users. Best of both worlds, AFAICS. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Autosave ???
Amen, Richmond!! - Original Message - From: Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Autosave ??? On 28/10/14 16:53, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mike Kerner wrote: I would like some sort of versioning, similar to what we had with that alternate script editor - so it would be the main project, and a version get updated. MaxV posted a nice script for that in the forums recently: http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=9t=21913 I am anti plug-ins and scripts for a very simple reason: I mainly deal with LiveCode learners, and as such it would be nice if such things as AutoSave worked straight out of the box without having to add things on. Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
maximum lines?
Hello, Can anyone please tell me the maximum number of lines for: a variable in LC a field in LC also I'd like to know how to find that info! Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
deleting lines in a field
I have a field that allows non-contiguous selection of lines What is the easiest way to delete the selected lines? I've tried a bunch of things and I end up doing this big convoluted script to do it. It seems like it should be simple? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
hilitedline
I have the following script in a button: on mouseUp put the hilitedline of field mySelects into myDelete repeat for each item L in myDelete delete line L of field mySelects end repeat end mouseUp If the hilitedlines of the field are, say, 1,4,7 then it will delete lines 1 and 4, but not 7. It always deletes all but the last line. Why? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to disturb newbies
I appreciate all this effort to improve the Dictionary. But I feel the discussion about allowing EACH LC user to personally modify the Dictionary with his/her own notes is being overlooked. I think it is crazy that LC only allows notes in the Dictionary that have been reviewed by the staff. I WANT to add my own notes to the Dictionary, edit the examples, etc. In short, I don't want to wait around for the LC Community to fix MY Dictionary. I do not think this is an unreasonable request. Larry - Original Message - From: Jacques Hausser jacques.haus...@unil.ch To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:02 AM Subject: Re: how to disturb newbies Le 26 oct. 2014 à 03:27, Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com a écrit : Again, I FULLY SUPPORT Richard's recommendation that if anyone notices any errors or even believes there should be better examples, Notes, Tips or inclusions in the Dictionary and User Guide, then PLEASE submit them to: http://quality.runrev.com/ Whilst they may not appear in the next cycle, I do appreciate that an improved Dictionary is being worked on, and like LC itself, that has come forward leaps and bounds in the last year, I'm sure all the corrections the Community adds to the Bug DB in relation to the Dictionary will eventually come back to us in the form of much better documentation. After entry in the Bug DB, a quick post to this List giving everyone here a heads up of what you've found would also be much appreciated. I fully agree. The dictionary is very important to shape the first impression of newcomers about LC. I have read and heard several disparaging comments about the documentation which are a very negative publicity for this fantastic product. I perfectly understand that it is far more interesting and stimulating for the small staff in Edinburgh to develop new features - and they are brilliant at that - than devote time and energy to do the house cleaning on the documentation. But it's a vital part of how their work is appreciated outside. I would suggest Kevin to establish a weekly hour of dictionary cleaning for everybody. Most of the dictionary problems could be solved in such a short time. ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel: ++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: hilitedline
Thanks Terry, Sometimes I wish I wasn't so dense. Larry - Original Message - From: Terry Judd terry.j...@unimelb.edu.au To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:35 AM Subject: Re: hilitedline Larry - you need to delete the lines in reverse orderŠ put the hilitedlines of field mySelects into myDelete repeat with i = (the number of items in myDelete) down to 1 delete line (item i of myDelete) of fld ³mySelects end repeat HTH, Terry... On 26/10/2014 7:58 pm, la...@significantplanet.org la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I have the following script in a button: on mouseUp put the hilitedline of field mySelects into myDelete repeat for each item L in myDelete delete line L of field mySelects end repeat end mouseUp If the hilitedlines of the field are, say, 1,4,7 then it will delete lines 1 and 4, but not 7. It always deletes all but the last line. Why? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to disturb newbies
Richard, It appears to me that you missed my point. I do not see how me adding a note to my OWN Dictionary causes a spam issue. Right now if I want to add a note to the Dictionary I have to log in. Then the note is submitted for approval (I don't know to whom.) Then if the note is approved by (whomever) it gets added to the Dictionary for everyone. Is that the spam you're talking about? Because that is already in place. I am NOT talking about Dictionary policing. I am saying that I want to only edit MY PERSONAL copy of the Dictionary. Also, it would be nice to search on the body and notes of the Dictionary. If that is currently possible (in 6.1.1) I do not know how to do it. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: how to disturb newbies larry wrote: I appreciate all this effort to improve the Dictionary. But I feel the discussion about allowing EACH LC user to personally modify the Dictionary with his/her own notes is being overlooked. I think it is crazy that LC only allows notes in the Dictionary that have been reviewed by the staff. It may seem crazy until you consider the alternative: once any communications venue is open for unmoderated posting by everyone, it becomes a spam magnet. If it weren't for the daily efforts of the volunteer forum moderators, the LiveCode forums would be an unusable cesspool of spam. Like the forums, an unmoderated Comments facility in the Dictionary would require significant manual effort from a sizable team to keep it in check. We often don't think about spam as an issue, but that's only because of the team of moderators working across multiple time zones culling such posts and banning those accounts almost as soon as they come in, every day. Personally, I find the forum spam moderation more than enough work for me, and I'd guess Klaus and the mods feel the same. Adding Dictionary policing to that task load would take resources away from the community that could be better applied to more interesting things, like: I WANT to add my own notes to the Dictionary, edit the examples, etc. In short, I don't want to wait around for the LC Community to fix MY Dictionary. I can't fault others for wanting to share the benefits of their learning with the rest of the community. That desire for sharing is what's motivating the focus around an enhancement process that benefits everyone. LiveCode is a relatively recent entrant into the open source world, but as we move forward we're finding ever better ways to coordinate the desires of community members to help others for maximum benefit for all. That said, I recognize that from time to time folks may have a desire for something more specialized, in your case for local personal notes. Thankfully Peter Haworth (whom I had the pleasure of finally meeting in person at RevLive last month) seems to have come through for you - this is from a post he made here yesterday: I have a free plugin that allows you to enter your own notes and tags about a dictionary entry. They are local to you so not available to all users. If interested, you can find it at http://www.lcsql.com/free-stuff.html Thank you, Peter, for taking the time to craft that tool and your generosity in sharing it with the community. -- Richard Gaskin LiveCode Community Manager rich...@livecode.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to disturb newbies
Hi Bill As I already replied to Richard: It seems you missed my point. I am NOT talking about the LC user base modifying the Dictionary we all use. I specifically said: MY Dictionary. In other words, just my own copy of the Dictionary on my machine. I apologize if I did not make that more clear. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:33 AM Subject: Re: how to disturb newbies Folks, To me, allowing the entire LC user base to modify the dictionary that we all use, will cause more problems than it solves. Richard's idea to form a team of experienced live coders to at least review additions and changes and brainstorm improvements is a great idea. Also, a feature that allows users to make private notes is also a great one. Perhaps, taking it a bit further, users' private notes might contain a button to submit them to the dictionary committee for review and inclusion in the master dictionary. An important goal, I think, is to consider feedback from both experienced and relatively new users who perhaps use a different vocabulary for their desired outcome and can't find their way around the huge number of commands and intricacies. This list also contains a wealth of questions that the documentation team might address. The challenge is to try to get into the mindset of those who are, in real time, trying to solve coding problems. Best, Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Oct 26, 2014, at 2:15 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I appreciate all this effort to improve the Dictionary. But I feel the discussion about allowing EACH LC user to personally modify the Dictionary with his/her own notes is being overlooked. I think it is crazy that LC only allows notes in the Dictionary that have been reviewed by the staff. I WANT to add my own notes to the Dictionary, edit the examples, etc. In short, I don't want to wait around for the LC Community to fix MY Dictionary. I do not think this is an unreasonable request. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to disturb newbies
Richard, If that is the case, then apparently there isn't much being done in submitting notice, because I know of many, many Dictionary errors. Larry I don't like to keep being a pest about this, but it would be SO nice if LC allowed us to edit the Dictionary on our own - our own corrections and our own notes. I've found in recent years that Dictionary errors have generally been fixed almost instantly once notice is submitted, almost always prior to the next release. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to disturb newbies
Hi Pete I had your previous plugin and now downloaded the updated one you listed below. GREAT!! Larry P.S. Why can't LC be as smart as you? - Original Message - From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2014 1:44 PM Subject: Re: how to disturb newbies I have a free plugin that allows you to enter your own notes and tags about a dictionary entry. They are local to you so not available to all users. If interested, you can find it at http://www.lcsql.com/free-stuff.html Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote: If there was a way to include user comments from a link in the dictionary entry, it would be helpful to those who work to improve the dictionary. Or perhaps a direct link to the location where dictionary bugs are reported. Many of the comments would probably be made by newer users, who wouldn't necessarily know where to post their experience or problem. In my work, some of the most valuable feedback I get is from new users. Bill William Prothero http://es.earthednet.org On Oct 25, 2014, at 8:19 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Richard, If that is the case, then apparently there isn't much being done in submitting notice, because I know of many, many Dictionary errors. Larry I don't like to keep being a pest about this, but it would be SO nice if LC allowed us to edit the Dictionary on our own - our own corrections and our own notes. I've found in recent years that Dictionary errors have generally been fixed almost instantly once notice is submitted, almost always prior to the next release. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode
Hi Jim, I'm not trying to argue (don't know enough.) But what you say below (I put in italics) seems only to underscore what I believe: that it will be easier to deal with those differences by just developing apps that run within a browser. Because don't both Android and iOS both run browsers? Please understand that, compared to most people on this list, I know almost nothing. So I'm really just trying to understand all of this. What is SEEMS like to me is that a developer can 1) use LC to deal with this continuing differentiation of devices and OS ecosystems. or 2) just develop for running in a browser and then no problem. Please tell me if I'm over-simplifying that. Thanks very much, Larry Jim wrote: That may be true with desktop software, but I respectfully disagree when it comes to mobile. There’s ever-growing fragmentation on Android, sometimes the developer must adapt to handset manufactures' carriers' idiosyncratic variations of the OS/UI, form factors and unique features. Then there are Apple's new and tempting backend solutions, like CloudKit, which provide a seamless experience for both users and developers. But they are clearly iOS only solutions. Leading to developer lock in. IMO, the LiveCode is very nicely evolving to deal with this continuing differentiation of devices and OS ecosystems. Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode
Hi John, I'm on board with all of that! Even though the LC community is relatively small, I agree 100% with you that a lot of people would start writing shared code that would greatly improve the LC IDE. AND if LC did that, it would start attracting a lot more programmers. I am of the opinion that all of the platform/device specific approach to software is going the way of the dinosaur. I believe the future of software will be browser based for several reasons. Maybe I'm ignorant and maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I believe. What I would personally LOVE to see happen with LC is true open source like you're talking about and then see LC become a LEADER in writing software that works in any standard browser. No fuss, no muss. Don't have to worry about OS or device. I'm working with a guy right now who is taking my clunky LC Windows prototype and rewriting it so that it will run in any browser. He tells me that he can code it so that the program automatically detects the screen size of the device and automatically adjusts the program accordingly. He also says that the user will be able to use the program offline and then synch automatically back to their personal data as soon as they get back online. In other words, the app is available both online and offline. If LC developed the ability to do all that kind of stuff with all of LC's other benefits, I would be extremely excited. Since I don't know very much about the pecking order/politics whatever at Rev, I hope you more experienced list people will push for your idea. You have my vote! Larry P.S. As one example, I got a lot of kind help from this list in understanding how to build and implement a library stack. However, TO ME (in my little brain) it still seems like a work-around. How wonderful it would be if I could just write and name a function (or import someone else's function) and then use it right within any script just like I use lineoffset or whatever AND also go to the LC dictionary and not only see the example(s) the author wrote, but add my own notes and examples right into the dictionary. Well, we can dream can't we? - Original Message - From: JB sund...@pacifier.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:26 AM Subject: Programming LiveCode with LiveCode There have been hints that in the near future it will be possible to program LiveCode with LiveCode like you write scripts for your stacks. Now that foundation has been added they have been updating LiveCode and it sounds like they are using Grand Central Dispatch for some of the graphics. There are many powerful tools in foundation. I am not sure how difficult it would be but it would be a great if instead of making a few really good changes to LiveCode with foundation and GCD etc that they opened the doors so anyone could access the tools in foundation from the script level of LiveCode without writing an external. If this could be done you might even be able to allow scripts to include the Swift programming language. That would make LiveCode advance faster because a lot of people would be writing code that would improve LiiveCode and sharing it. This would open the doors for amazing things at a rapid pace with a true community involvement in writing code for the changes. John Balgenorth ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
enhancement request
Hello, I've had this situation before and had it again today, which cost me a couple of hours. I dragged a new scrolling field onto my stack and named it myInput. I hit Ctrl C and Ctrl V to copy it. I dragged the new field to a new position and named it myOutput. Somehow (I'm not sure how) I ended up with 2 fields named myInput one right over the top of the other one. Then I put some text into the top myInput (not realizing there was a bottom one) and tried to do some stuff. What was happening, is that LC was looking at the bottom (1st) field myInput and there was no text in that one. So, of course, I got very strange behavior and used up a good portion of my rock collection. Here is what I wish for: (and I do not know how to officially make the request, and this is where someone can help) If I am so ignorant or unattentive ? to make such a blunder, it would be really wonderful for LC to pop up a warning saying something like, Hey Larry! Wake Up! You already have a field named myInput!!! Know what I mean? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hi Richard, in a word... I really enjoyed reading your post and I learned a lot! Larry - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:03 AM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Good post, Kay. Each of the examples you provided is among the reasons I like xTalk. But even though they demonstrate useful features of the language, neither is dependent on xTalk's trait of counting quoted text as a single word when using the word chunk type. Perhaps I should preface this by noting that I very much enjoy xTalk in general and LiveCode in particular, a love that's only grown in my 27 years with this family of languages. But all programming languages have historical anomalies, and xTalk is not the world's only exception to this. Programming languages are, by nature, somewhat funky, attempting to communicate the richness of human thought to a machine too stupid to count past 1. All of them require trade-offs. In the first example you provided, the list of names, none of them includes quoted text. And even with the broader support of treating words as white-space delimited (breaking from the English rule of usually not including punctuation), as you noted at least one of the examples there will fail (sorry, Mr. Van Damme). Many other languages also provide means of dealing with multi-character white space (sed, awk, and Python come to mind), and none of them, not even xTalk, will reliably sort by last name unless we separate the first and last more explicitly, such in separate fields or with a tab character, as is commonly done in any language where a last-name sort is important, even in LiveCode. In the second example in which a multi-word value is used as an object identifier, once again we're not asked to parse that using xTalk's word chunk type, but instead get to rely on the engine's expression evaluator, which works very much like JavaScript's and others' in which literal strings can be used as object identifiers. Useful as it is, it's neither unique to xTalk nor necessarily dependent on how we use the word chunk type. Object identifiers *can* become dependent on the word chunk type if you need to parse them yourself, as others have noted along with many other good examples to justify the HyperTalk team's implementation (though we might ask why we need to do this so often, such as why we don't have objectType or ownerStack functions). No matter how useful the current implementation is, the choice still requires justification. Even if that justification is sound, favoring a certain utility, it's still a trade-off, the downside being a redefinition of the word word from its more common definition in natural language. Larry's initial confusion is far from rare. xTalk's reliance on a unique definition of word that differs from its use in natural language is something we all had to learn. We may accept it, we may like it, we may even prefer it, but it's by no means intuitive to the native English speaker. xTalk was born more than a decade before Unicode was invented, so it couldn't have taken advantage of the vast pool of collective knowledge embodied in the Unicode spec, nor was there the luxury of having the computational horsepower needed to use such a spec efficiently. Today the LiveCode team has at last corrected this with the introduction of the trueWord token type, though I have to shrug my shoulders with an acknowledging chuckle in sharing Larry's initial observation that if xTalk were being designed today, with it's ostensible emphasis on English-like syntax, the order is backwards: If we didn't have 27 years of code dependent on xTalk's unique redefinition of word, to support the claim of English-like it might be more intuitive to have word act as trueWord does, and have some other token do what word currently does in xTalks unique redefinition. But that's not the world we live in. Like every other language, LiveCode is a product of its unique history. Useful as its conventions are, they will from time to time require us to learn new ways of doing things. This is just one of many reasons I generally don't use the phrase English-like when giving talks on LiveCode. Our favorite language brings to the world's programming choices a uniquely valuable blend of features, but while it's certainly more readable than most it isn't particularly English-like, nor does it really even try all that hard to be. And that's a good thing. Natural language is really tough stuff to parse, full of its own even longer and more nuanced history, and intended for a very different audience (the cognitive complexity of the human mind rather than the logical simplicity of computers). I think most of us (except Geoff Canyon who has a rare mind for this sort of stuff g) would agree that we're all glad this isn't a valid statement
problem with counting words
Hello, I'm posting this to help any other poor saps who run into this insanity: I want to count the words in a field. I have: set the itemDel to space put the number of words of field myTest into field myNumber Here is what happens: I am testing the word count in LiveCode 6.1.1. Believe it or not, LiveCode will count all these words as 23 words because everything contained within the quotes is counted as ONE word!!! There is nothing that I could find that says LiveCode will treat everything within quotes as one word, even when I have itemDel set to space. I doubt the RunRev people will see this as a bug, but just how it is. Well, it's really stupid - and beyond that, it is not documented in the Dictionary that I could see. btw, I spoke to a programmer friend of mine (who used to work for Novell) and he said he'd never heard anything like that in the several programming languages he knows. Yes, I do know how to do a work around to count all the actual words, but that is not the point. The point is that I wasted over 2 hours of my time figuring out why my word count was inaccurate. quite depressed, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Please tell me where it says that in the dictionary - I could find nothing about it. I also searched the User Guide for quoted strings and also smart quotes and found nothing. I also searched both the dictionary and the User Guide for truewords and found nothing. So I'm very mystified where this stuff is to be found and how it is to be found. I'm just trying to understand how this information is found so I don't need to keep bothering everyone on this list. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 12:36 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words The dictionary clearly says that quoted strings are counted as a single word. If you wanted to work around that as an issue by using the itemDelimiter, you would then look at the number of items in the field, not the number of words. There’s a better option though, you can see how many truewords there are in the field, because that uses Unicode delimiters. If you don’t want to use truewords instead of words for some other reason, you could solve the issue by using smart quotes instead of dumb quotes. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Easy to say, but how does one replace the quotes with curly-quotes? I can't find out where it says how to do that. Sorry I'm so lame. Larry - Original Message - From: Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Ah, and then there are tabs to deal with, and double-spaces will count an empty item between. It may be better to just replace the quotes with curly-quotes, count the words, and then replace the curly-quotes back to quotes if you want. On Oct 12, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: Hi Larry, the itemDel is the character that delimits ITEMS, not words. You could use it to get around your problem with quotes. If you set the itemDel to space, you would then look for the number of ITEMS in the field. Thats not quite the end of it though, because there may not be a space between lines in the field, only returns. So, you could add up the number of items in each line - something like: put 0 into tCount set the itemDel to space repeat for each line L in field foo add the number of items in L to tCount end repeat (not tested) .Jerry On Oct 12, 2014, at 11:17 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I'm posting this to help any other poor saps who run into this insanity: I want to count the words in a field. I have: set the itemDel to space put the number of words of field myTest into field myNumber Here is what happens: I am testing the word count in LiveCode 6.1.1. Believe it or not, LiveCode will count all these words as 23 words because everything contained within the quotes is counted as ONE word!!! There is nothing that I could find that says LiveCode will treat everything within quotes as one word, even when I have itemDel set to space. I doubt the RunRev people will see this as a bug, but just how it is. Well, it's really stupid - and beyond that, it is not documented in the Dictionary that I could see. btw, I spoke to a programmer friend of mine (who used to work for Novell) and he said he'd never heard anything like that in the several programming languages he knows. Yes, I do know how to do a work around to count all the actual words, but that is not the point. The point is that I wasted over 2 hours of my time figuring out why my word count was inaccurate. quite depressed, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hi Terry, Here is the real problem. I don't know much. I'm sitting here assuming that a word is a word, regardless of whether it is inside quotes. Now I find out there is trueword. It's just hard for me to reconcile LiveCode's boast of simple English and stuff like this. The other thing I don't understand is this: Is there any way to search the dictionary on the text of the dictionary and not just on the keywords? If there is a way to do that, I don't know how. It would help a lot. Thanks, Larry P.S. That would be a cool thing if they added a wordDel function. It would be REALLY cool if people could write their own functions and then add them to their personal LC dictionary. Probably there is a way to do that, but again, I don't know how. - Original Message - From: Terence Heaford t.heaf...@btinternet.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:38 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Wouldn’t it be good if RunRev could add WordDelimiter to the dictionary, would that solve the problem. I believe it exists in SuperCard. I thought LiveCode was a more modern version of SuperCard and would surely have this option. All the best Terry On 12 Oct 2014, at 20:20, Jerry Jensen j...@jhj.com wrote: the itemDel is the character that delimits ITEMS, not words. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hi Craig, I've written several functions within stacks, but have no idea how to create a library stack or, seems better, as a plug-in. For example, one function I use in many of the programs I'm writing is: commaInsert: on commaInsert put round(thisFigure) into thisFigure if thisFigure 0 then put thisFigure * -1 into thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 3 then put , before char -3 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 7 then put , before char -7 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 11 then put , before char -11 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 15 then put , before char -15 of thisFigure -- THIS WOULD BE AT LEAST 1 TRILLION!! put $ before thisFigure end commaInsert I use the above function (command) after performing math functions on numbers that I then want to display as dollar amounts with the commas in the right places. It would be very cool to have it available all the time through a plug-in. It would be even more cool if I could somehow add it to the LC dictionary and do this: put commaInsert(thisFigure) into field myDollarDisplay if thisFigure 1 then set the textcolor of field myDollarDisplay to red Or even: put commaInsert(thisFigure + otherFigure) into [container] From what I've heard from programming friends, other languages allow for adding of functions to the dictionary as in the two line example in italics above. Do you know if that is possible in LC? As far as I know, it is not possible. Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 4:53 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Larry. But you can make your own dictionary. Without limit. Most of that, too, has been possible since Hypercard. You can define your own properties, commands and functions, and place them in permanent use in several ways, for example, as a library stack in use or a plug-in. Have you ever written such a thing? Please write back if you have not, and we will play around for a while. Or if you have written such gadgetry, but just never saved any of them for later, general use in your own personal LC world, the tell us that as well. Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hello Mark, It truly pleases me that you explained a reason for text within quotes being a single word. I don't have enough experience (actually none) in defining arguments for commandline syntax and would never have thought of that. So now I must say, OK, there is a reason. However, I would still really like it if I could create my own functions as I please and add them directly into the LC dictionary/language of the IDE. I'm completely unclear how that would work with a plug-in. If I wrote functions and put them into an expandable plug-in (to add future functions) could I call those functions up within a script? For example: put larryFunction(larryVar) into field myLarry If anyone knows how to do that for the IDE so that the function I write is now available to me for ANY script of ANY stack, I would love to hear about it. Larry - Original Message - From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:00 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Terence- Sunday, October 12, 2014, 12:38:53 PM, you wrote: Wouldnt it be good if RunRev could add WordDelimiter to the dictionary, would that solve the problem. I believe it exists in SuperCard. I thought LiveCode was a more modern version of SuperCard and would surely have this option. wordDelimiter would be an interesting addition, but would have its own complexities. You need to keep in mind that words are delimited by whitespace: spaces, tabs, carriage returns, etc., but also by some punctuation: commas, periods, semicolons, etc. I also find that text within quotes being a single word is congruent with defining arguments for comandline syntax. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Mark, This is why personal functions are so important. You like having all the words within quotes being seen as a single word for commandline calls. On the other hand, it is giving me fits having to go from regular quotes to curly quotes (for counting) and then back to regular quotes for display (since LC displays a curly quote as some oddball char). But if I could write my own function for that stuff, wow. I do not have ANY experience with frontscripts, backscripts, plug-ins, whatever. Maybe some day. In the meantime, if anyone wants to write/point to a detailed explanation of how to do it, that will be great. I would say that an ability for me to write functions and have them available for scripting would be #1 on my wish list. Larry - Original Message - From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words larry- Sunday, October 12, 2014, 5:16:45 PM, you wrote: Hello Mark, It truly pleases me that you explained a reason for text within quotes being a single word. Glad I could help. I don't have enough experience (actually none) in defining arguments for commandline syntax and would never have thought of that. So now I must say, OK, there is a reason. It's pretty simple, really. If I have a program that counts lines in a file (let's call it linecount) and I want to call it with a file to work on, then from a command prompt I would say something like linecount fileToWorkOn.txt However, if someone made a file with a name that had embedded spaces, linecount some file with spaces.txt wouldn't work because the first thing that would happen is the linecount program would try to work on file some. What I'd need to do in that case is say linecount some file with spaces.txt And then the operating system would treat everything within the quotes as a single parameter. So I can extrapolate from that to xtalk languages treating everything within quotes as a single entity. If anyone knows how to do that for the IDE so that the function I write is now available to me for ANY script of ANY stack, I would love to hear about it. Well, my first advice would be to wait for the next major version of LiveCode, because the new initiative (I'm too tired and lazy at the moment to look up the name) is designed to give you exactly that capability. But if you want to play around with it now, you'll want to read up on frontscripts and backscripts. If you, for example, put a function into a script and then insert the script into the backscripts, the function will be available to any stack. This is a large part of how the IDE itself works. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hi Robert, I understand what you wrote. That is not a problem for me. What I want is to be able to put my function into the LC IDE so that I can use it in other stacks. You mention a library stack. I do not know how to make one or use one. Is there some tutorial or something that will tell me how? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:15 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Larry, Change the first line of your function to function commaInsert thisFigure Better yet: function commaInsert pFigure put pFigure into thisFigure Then add before the last end the following line return thisFigure If you have your function anywhere in the path (like in the stack script or library stack that is in use), then the following will work as you want put commaInsert(thisFigure) into field myDollarDisplay Robert On 12.10.2014 at 17:09 Uhr -0600 la...@significantplanet.org apparently wrote: Hi Craig, I've written several functions within stacks, but have no idea how to create a library stack or, seems better, as a plug-in. For example, one function I use in many of the programs I'm writing is: commaInsert: on commaInsert put round(thisFigure) into thisFigure if thisFigure 0 then put thisFigure * -1 into thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 3 then put , before char -3 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 7 then put , before char -7 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 11 then put , before char -11 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 15 then put , before char -15 of thisFigure -- THIS WOULD BE AT LEAST 1 TRILLION!! put $ before thisFigure end commaInsert I use the above function (command) after performing math functions on numbers that I then want to display as dollar amounts with the commas in the right places. It would be very cool to have it available all the time through a plug-in. It would be even more cool if I could somehow add it to the LC dictionary and do this: put commaInsert(thisFigure) into field myDollarDisplay if thisFigure 1 then set the textcolor of field myDollarDisplay to red Or even: put commaInsert(thisFigure + otherFigure) into [container] From what I've heard from programming friends, other languages allow for adding of functions to the dictionary as in the two line example in italics above. Do you know if that is possible in LC? As far as I know, it is not possible. Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 4:53 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Larry. But you can make your own dictionary. Without limit. Most of that, too, has been possible since Hypercard. You can define your own properties, commands and functions, and place them in permanent use in several ways, for example, as a library stack in use or a plug-in. Have you ever written such a thing? Please write back if you have not, and we will play around for a while. Or if you have written such gadgetry, but just never saved any of them for later, general use in your own personal LC world, the tell us that as well. Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
lock screen question and detect field question
Hello, 2 questions this time: 1) I have a program where I'm creating and deleting fields. If I try to delete a field that hasn't yet been created, I get a script error. So is there a way to first find out if the field exists? Something like: if field myField01 exists then do stuff end if 2) Other than creating a substack to overlay my main stack with a Loading field that adds a period after Loading.. is there a way to lock the screen (so the user doesn't see the fields being created) and still show a field with the Loading... going on? Like: on createMyFields lock screen create the fields update the Loading. field with a new period -- AND DON'T LOCK THIS VIEW FROM BEING UPDATED unlock screen end createMyFields Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hello Kay, Mark gave me a short explanation of why it is good to see the words within quotes as one word and now you've given a longer and more detailed explanation. So I thank you and I will stop throwing rocks at my computer. Larry P.S. I still want to understand how to write my own functions that I can use right within any script of any stack. - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:58 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: I hear ya', but like so many other oddities in the language this one came from Apple, Sheer brilliance! One of the first analogies of HyperCard was that it was a an electronic rolodex. Here is a list of names: Abu MusabAl-Zarqawi Camilla Parker-Bowles CatherineZeta-Jones Claude Levi-Strauss D'ArcyCorrigan Daniel Day-Lewis DavidBen-Gurion Dodi Al-Fayed FlorenceGriffith-Joyner Gilbert O'Sullivan GloriaMacapagal-Arroyo Jean-Claude Van Damme JimmyO'Dea Justine Henin-Hardenne KareemAbdul-Jabbar Karim Abdul-Jabbar KristinScott-Thomas Maddox Jolie-Pitt MichaelO'Leary Olivia Newton-John PeterO'Toole Sinéad O'Connor TimBrooke-Taylor Ralph Twistleton-Wykham-Fiennes So lets say you want to sort these by surname - a kind of rolodex thing to do. sort lines of myListOfNames by word of -1 each will result in only one mistake sort lines of myListOfnames by trueword -1 of each --if you are on LC7.0 will result in basically the same messed up result most other programming languages will give you. Put it in and word processor and see how you go. Please feel free to try and write your own function that is more successful and more efficient than the beautiful one liner Bill Atkinson gave us. Even if you had wordDel it wouldn't help much. I can't imagine the amount of hours that have been wasted, especially on genealogical websites, trying to unfathom why double barrelled names never sort correctly. This is also compounded by the certain fact that some people will put a space between the last given name and the Surname, some a tab, and some will 'format' the data by placing multiple spaces in between names so that things 'line up nicely' - and are then confused as to why it only looks that way on their screen an not on someone else's. One of the reasons double barrelled names have picked up the '-' is to help computers recognise them as a single word. Also; put myVariable into fld Not A Variable doesn't work put myVariable into fld Not A Variable does. The ability to recognise words in quote as a single entity is extremely important. Yes, we don't typically think of such as a single word, but when we understand that computers don't think like us, and we do understand why things are the way they are, such oddities can be manipulated in many powerful ways to our own advantage. It is also helpful when we understand such things that we don't go around replacing one character willy nilly with another character. ~ [tilde] for instance is one character I'd never use as it has a special meaning in many computer languages; as does / \ . * and many others. If we had some text that contained both straight and curly quotes and replaced the straight quotes with curly quotes so we could get a word count, and then changed the curly quotes back to straight quotes, the finL text is not the same as it started - and this could cause problems. Today your function might work perfectly for today's problem, but next month, or next year, when you start expanding your LC skills and try working with SQL databases, or Servers and network connections, every now and then someone will report a bug that your app does something strange. You may never be able to track it down because it just happens that once every million DB calls a random user happens to use data that contains a character that you never use yourself and thought no one else would. I have a particular liking to numToChar(127) myself. Yep, no other programming language might define a word like LC defines a word, but I for one am EXTREMELY thankful for that. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: problem with counting words
Hello Kay, I read the chapter in the user guide about creating a library. I also read insert script in the dictionary and it talks about a limit of 10 scripts(10 front and 10 back) in the compiled app. What I'm unclear about is, may I have multiple functions within, say, a card or stack script? In other words, if I have one script that contains 10 commands within it that could be called up, is that counted as 1 script or as 10 scripts? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:09 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Open the User Guide (from the IDE Help Menu select 'User Guide' and type Library in your pdf viewer's search box. Chapter 5.8 'Extending the Message Path' should come up as the first hit. This also may be helpful: http://lessons.runrev.com/m/4071/l/11787-how-to-call-a-function-or-command-in-another-object HTH On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:58 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hi Robert, I understand what you wrote. That is not a problem for me. What I want is to be able to put my function into the LC IDE so that I can use it in other stacks. You mention a library stack. I do not know how to make one or use one. Is there some tutorial or something that will tell me how? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Robert Brenstein r...@robelko.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 7:15 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Larry, Change the first line of your function to function commaInsert thisFigure Better yet: function commaInsert pFigure put pFigure into thisFigure Then add before the last end the following line return thisFigure If you have your function anywhere in the path (like in the stack script or library stack that is in use), then the following will work as you want put commaInsert(thisFigure) into field myDollarDisplay Robert On 12.10.2014 at 17:09 Uhr -0600 la...@significantplanet.org apparently wrote: Hi Craig, I've written several functions within stacks, but have no idea how to create a library stack or, seems better, as a plug-in. For example, one function I use in many of the programs I'm writing is: commaInsert: on commaInsert put round(thisFigure) into thisFigure if thisFigure 0 then put thisFigure * -1 into thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 3 then put , before char -3 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 7 then put , before char -7 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 11 then put , before char -11 of thisFigure put the length of thisFigure into L if L 15 then put , before char -15 of thisFigure -- THIS WOULD BE AT LEAST 1 TRILLION!! put $ before thisFigure end commaInsert I use the above function (command) after performing math functions on numbers that I then want to display as dollar amounts with the commas in the right places. It would be very cool to have it available all the time through a plug-in. It would be even more cool if I could somehow add it to the LC dictionary and do this: put commaInsert(thisFigure) into field myDollarDisplay if thisFigure 1 then set the textcolor of field myDollarDisplay to red Or even: put commaInsert(thisFigure + otherFigure) into [container] From what I've heard from programming friends, other languages allow for adding of functions to the dictionary as in the two line example in italics above. Do you know if that is possible in LC? As far as I know, it is not possible. Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 4:53 PM Subject: Re: problem with counting words Larry. But you can make your own dictionary. Without limit. Most of that, too, has been possible since Hypercard. You can define your own properties, commands and functions, and place them in permanent use in several ways, for example, as a library stack in use or a plug-in. Have you ever written such a thing? Please write back if you have not, and we will play around for a while. Or if you have written such gadgetry, but just never saved any of them for later, general use in your own personal LC world, the tell us that as well. Craig Newman ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit
Re: lock screen question and detect field question
That is a really good question! And I have a really good answer! Because the fields are dynamic and not always the same ones needed. But you've given me a new thought: Maybe I can just create all the fields I will ever possibly need and then just show and hide them. I'm going to think about that. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 8:14 PM Subject: Re: lock screen question and detect field question On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:05 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: 1) I have a program where I'm creating and deleting fields. Why are you creating them and deleting them? Why aren't the fields already there and you just show and hide them? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
summary question for functions and libraries
Thanks everyone for the info on libraries and backscripts, etc. I feel like I'm back in college taking an intensive class. If I understand everyone correctly, I could do this if I want my functions to work in a standalone: Make a stack that has a button (or the stack itself, right?) with all my functions in it. Then just add (copy) that stack as a sub-stack to whatever application I'm working on - say stack larryLibrary That way all my functions are available to me as I develop and also available when I create the standalone. Have I got it right? Thank you again! Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4 really slower than LC 6.1.2
My (limited) experience: I found several bugs in 6.6.3 Without changing the code at all, I opened my stack in 6.1.1 and everything ran perfectly. Larry - Original Message - From: Alain Vezina alain.vez...@logilangue.com To: LiveCode How to use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4 really slower than LC 6.1.2 Hi All, When I press a btn to go back to a previews card it takes 1/10 of a second with LC 6,1,2, but it takes 3.28 second with LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4. That the same when my app is a standalone. I use the same script for all trials on mouseUp global sBrowserId BrowserInvisible02 hide btn accidPronomi hide btn Rectif go to cd LaRecherche show btn avance show btn recule show fld flexions if fld info is not empty then show fld info end if revBrowserSet sBrowserId, visible, true show image browserimage of cd LaRecherche end mouseUp I am on Maveriks and XCode 6.0.1 for LC 6.6.3 and 6.6.4 and on Maveriks and XCode 5.1.1 for the LC 6.1.2 version. I dont understand. Is it a bug I have to report? Anybody has an idea of what is the problem? Alain Vezina Logilangue www.logilangue.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
quotes question
Hello All, I've been given some good advice from a couple of people on this list about being sure to put quotes around object names. So I'm going back through my code and doing that. Question: If I'm using a variable as part of a field name, should it have quotes around it? In other words, which of the two examples below is the right way to do it? create field set the name of the last field to (myfield x) OR create field set the name of the last field to (myfield x) ?? Thanks Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
reporting a bug?
Hello, I've just spent about 3 hours trying to debug my program and finally found out: There is a problem in the IDE, but when I compile, the problem goes away. I am creating several fields using the templateField and create field I set the locktext to false for all the fields - both in the templateField and after they are created - just to be sure. (Originally I just had: set the locktext of the templateField to false) Each created field has its script set to a master script that has an openField command in it. When I open the IDE and create my fields, and then try to click in a newly created field, nothing happens. I found out, just by trial and error, that if I first drag a button or field using the tool bar on to my stack and then delete that button or field and then create my fields, everything works as it should. However, if I PROGRAMMATICALLY create the button and then delete it, I still cannot click in a newly created field. So after 3 hours of stuff like that, I finally compiled my program and everything works fine. I am just reporting this to the list because I'm not smart enough to know if that is a bug or not. But if anyone was experiencing anything like that, then you now know what happened with me. btw, I'm using 6.6.3 on an XP machine. Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
from here to there
Hello, Can someone please tell me the syntax for putting words x to y from one field/var to another? I tried: put words 1 to 40 of field fld1 into field fld2 but that doesn't work. I don't even know how to look up the syntax! Sorry. Thanks Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: from here to there
Thanks Klaus and Dave, It is sort of strange to me that I want more than 1 word and so I used words, but you guys are right of course. Just use word Larry - Original Message - From: Klaus major-k kl...@major-k.de To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 4:34 PM Subject: Re: from here to there Hi Larry, Am 07.10.2014 um 00:25 schrieb la...@significantplanet.org la...@significantplanet.org: Hello, Can someone please tell me the syntax for putting words x to y from one field/var to another? I tried: put words 1 to 40 of field fld1 into field fld2 but that doesn't work. I don't even know how to look up the syntax! Sorry. avoid the plural :-) put word 1 to 40 of field fld1 into field fld2 Thanks Larry Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: from here to there
I'm echoing John: Thanks Kay for the detailed explanation. That really helps us understand the LC syntax so much better! Larry - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 8:31 PM Subject: Re: from here to there On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 6:37 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: It is sort of strange to me that I want more than 1 word and so I used words, As to how grammatically correct it is I'm sure Richmond could tell us, but I like to think of it this way, I'm not actually specifying plural what I'm doing is specifying a start point and an end point and these are always singular. char 1 to char 21 word 5 to word -2 this is then conveniently shorthanded to: item 2 to 22 token 34 to -9 byte -8 to -1 Also, if I ask myself, how do I get every word from a variable - note I've used the singular, so the answer is, word 1 to -1 --again I use the singular And just in case it comes up, remember a word in LC includes any punctuation that may follow what we typically think of as a word, in the message box put this is, a word into tStore put word 1 to 2 of tStore into msg if you don't want the punctuation you might find trueword is what you need put this is, a word into tStore put trueword 1 to 2 of tStore into msg HTH ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
create a new label field
I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular field with square corners. How do I create a new label field programatically? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: create a new label field
Hi Craig, Yes, but how do I do that? I cannot find any command that distinguishes from label or regular field. I do use templateField for other properties, but nothing I've tried will set the property of a label field. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: create a new label field Hi. Set up the templateField as a label field. Then all new fields created will have its properties. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: larry la...@significantplanet.org To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 6:32 pm Subject: create a new label field I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular field with square corners. How do I create a new label field programatically? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: create a new label field
Hi Craig, Thanks for elaborating. I really appreciate it. I know your first message meant perfect sense to you, but I just don't have much experience. I should have thought to do what you just said in this most recent post. Now I have a better understanding of how to do stuff like that. Again, thanks very much. Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: Re: create a new label field Make a label field the way you want it. Set the properties of the templateField to the properties of your label field. Craig -Original Message- From: larry la...@significantplanet.org To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 7:20 pm Subject: Re: create a new label field Hi Craig, Yes, but how do I do that? I cannot find any command that distinguishes from label or regular field. I do use templateField for other properties, but nothing I've tried will set the property of a label field. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: create a new label field Hi. Set up the templateField as a label field. Then all new fields created will have its properties. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: larry la...@significantplanet.org To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 6:32 pm Subject: create a new label field I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular field with square corners. How do I create a new label field programatically? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: create a new label field
Thanks Jacque, That note is actually very enlightening to me! Larry - Original Message - From: J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:50 PM Subject: Re: create a new label field Just for reference, LiveCode has only one field and one button object. All the field variations in the tool palette are just a single field object with different properties set. The same goes for all the buttons. I think it's misleading for new users because it gives the impression that there are different types of button and field controls. On October 5, 2014 7:36:14 PM CDT, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hi Craig, Thanks for elaborating. I really appreciate it. I know your first message meant perfect sense to you, but I just don't have much experience. I should have thought to do what you just said in this most recent post. Now I have a better understanding of how to do stuff like that. Again, thanks very much. Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:24 PM Subject: Re: create a new label field Make a label field the way you want it. Set the properties of the templateField to the properties of your label field. Craig -Original Message- From: larry la...@significantplanet.org To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 7:20 pm Subject: Re: create a new label field Hi Craig, Yes, but how do I do that? I cannot find any command that distinguishes from label or regular field. I do use templateField for other properties, but nothing I've tried will set the property of a label field. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:14 PM Subject: Re: create a new label field Hi. Set up the templateField as a label field. Then all new fields created will have its properties. Craig Newman -Original Message- From: larry la...@significantplanet.org To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 6:32 pm Subject: create a new label field I can use create field to create a new field, but it is a rectangular field with square corners. How do I create a new label field programatically? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
how to detect insertion point
Hello, I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc. When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection, insertion ??) and run a script. I've experimented for over an hour with no luck. The only thing I found that sort of works is: on mouseEnter do stuff end mouseEnter The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change the color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change back to the original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the mouse leaves. It is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in the field while the stuff is being done. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for any help. Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to detect insertion point
Thanks Kay, For some reason, neither focusIn nor focusOut works. I can get what I want with openField but I haven't found anything that works when the focus is no longer on the field; focusOut doesn't work and neither does closeField (because closeField only works if the user changed the contents of the field) So I'm just here tearing my hair out! Larry - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:35 PM Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point Maybe the focusIn messgae might help. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc. When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection, insertion ??) and run a script. I've experimented for over an hour with no luck. The only thing I found that sort of works is: on mouseEnter do stuff end mouseEnter The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change the color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change back to the original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the mouse leaves. It is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in the field while the stuff is being done. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for any help. Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to detect insertion point
Thanks Mike! Now I can keep the rest of my hair! Larry - Original Message - From: miked...@gmail.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point What about exitfield? Mike Original Message From: la...@significantplanet.org Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 10:45 PM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point Thanks Kay, For some reason, neither focusIn nor focusOut works. I can get what I want with openField but I haven't found anything that works when the focus is no longer on the field; focusOut doesn't work and neither does closeField (because closeField only works if the user changed the contents of the field) So I'm just here tearing my hair out! Larry - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 8:35 PM Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point Maybe the focusIn messgae might help. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc. When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection, insertion ??) and run a script. I've experimented for over an hour with no luck. The only thing I found that sort of works is: on mouseEnter do stuff end mouseEnter The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change the color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change back to the original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the mouse leaves. It is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in the field while the stuff is being done. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for any help. Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to detect insertion point
Thanks Craig, I learned a lot today from your post and Jacque's post. Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 10:06 PM Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point Larry. It takes a while to learn the many LC commands, functions and properties that pertain to the task at hand. Experimentation is the best way, but also do use the dictionary, trying out various words that seem to fit what you are looking for. And especially the see also entries when you do. In your original post, you mentioned the word selection. That, or maybe select by itself, would likely have led you to many possible lines of experimentation. After a while, you will have a a sense of what and how to search for in the dictionary, and the array of options presented there will lead you farther. I would keep the filter set to all. Craig -Original Message- From: Mark Schonewille m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 11:26 pm Subject: Re: how to detect insertion point Hi Larry, To detect the insertion pint when the user clicks in a field, you can do this: on selectionChanged put the selectedchunk end selectionChanged -- Kind regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Http://economy-x-talk.com Share the clipboard of your computer over a local network with Clipboard Link http://clipboardlink.economy-x-talk.com Op 6 okt. 2014 om 04:30 heeft la...@significantplanet.org het volgende geschreven: Hello, I have several fields... myField1, myField2, etc. When the user clicks within a field, I want to detect the (?? selection, insertion ??) and run a script. I've experimented for over an hour with no luck. The only thing I found that sort of works is: on mouseEnter do stuff end mouseEnter The problem with that is that one of the things I want to do is change the color of the field while the script is doing stuff and only change back to the original color when the stuff is finished, and not when the mouse leaves. It is too clunky to require the user to leave the mouse in the field while the stuff is being done. I hope that makes sense. Thanks for any help. Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
position of field scrollbar
Hello, I have a field with a vScrollbar Does anyone know how to set the position of the scrollbar to 0 ?? I'm sorry, but the LC dictionary is of NO help in this matter - at least not that I could see. Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: sort question for today
Hi Paul, That is essentially what I did, but not as elegantly as your solution. But it works and it is very quick, so I'm happy. Thanks very much for helping me see an even better way. Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 1:28 AM Subject: Re: sort question for today Larry, This should work… put line 7 to -1 of fld myStats into tLinesToSort sort lines of tLinesToSort by word 2 of each put tLinesToSort into line 7 to -1 of fld myStats You can only sort all Lines or Items of a container, so if you need to sort specific lines or items, you must put them into a separate container to do the sort, then replace them. Paul On Sep 28, 2014, at 8:35 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I am trying to sort lines 7 through the last line of a field. This doesn't work: sort lines (7 to last) of field myStats by word 2 of each Does anyone know the code that will work? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
sort question for today
Hello, I am trying to sort lines 7 through the last line of a field. This doesn't work: sort lines (7 to last) of field myStats by word 2 of each Does anyone know the code that will work? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 6.6.2 or 6.6.3???
Hi Bob, I had the exact same experience that you did. I just assumed it was a display bug with LC and ignored it. When I got the alert about 6.6.3, I just chose Skip this version. Maybe you or someone will report it as a bug. Larry - Original Message - From: Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:00 PM Subject: 6.6.2 or 6.6.3??? Hi all. I’m wondering if any other Windows users are encountering this: I downloaded and installed the 6.6.3 installer, the commercial version, to test in my Windows 7 environment. But when the app launches it reports that it is 6.6.2! So I get an alert that there is a new version, 6.6.3, so I install that over top. It still reports that it is version 6.6.2!!! So which is it? 6.6.2, or 6.6.3? Is this just a display bug? The About Livecode splash screen is indicating 6.6.2 build 4012. Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: searching for chars within a string
Hello Peter, Thanks for sending your functions. I'm still sort of a newbie and I had to get a programming friend give me a quick course in how functions work (especially the local variables.) Anyway, I ran a test using your functions against the offset() function in LC Searching 78 characters (the entire alphabet repeated 3 times) for all possible 7-ltr words (32,856 is the result) we have: your functions: 3045 milliseconds offset(): 1249 milliseconds But I'm going to file away your functions because I may use them later in some other manner - and what I learned today about functions was very helpful. So thanks again. Larry P.S. I'm using LC 6.6.3 on Windows XP with 4gb of ram. - Original Message - From: Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:53 AM Subject: Re: searching for chars within a string I'm curious, Larry -- how fast is this on your machine compared to the regex solutions? function isInString testStr, targetStr repeat for each char c in testStr add 1 to countArray[c] end repeat put the keys of countArray into letterList repeat for each line L in letterlist put countArray[L] into nbrCharsTest put howMany(c,targetStr,comma) into nbrCharsNeeded if nbrCharsNeeded nbrCharsTest then return false end repeat return true end isInString function howmany tg,container,divChar -- how many tg = target string is in container replace tg with divChar in container set the itemdelimiter to divChar put the number of items of container into h if char -1 of container = divChar then return h -- trailing delimiter is ignored return h-1 end howmany -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Sep 26, 2014, at 11:58 AM, la...@significantplanet.org la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello Kay, Good stuff. I did some time tests and offset() is about twice as fast as matchText(). Don't know why. Larry - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 12:54 AM Subject: Re: searching for chars within a string A simple way would be just to use basic matchText() for each single letter and regex matchText() for repeating letters. P.*P will find double Ps, P.*P.*P will find triple Ps etc. Seems to be relatively fast but if you have very large data sets other alternatives would need to be investigated. in the message box: put ABCDEKLP into X put ABCDEKMMOOPP into Y put 10 into Z put 0 into a put 0 into b put 0 into c put 0 into d put the millisec into tStart repeat Z times if (matchText(X, A) AND matchText(X, E) AND matchText(X, L) AND matchText(X, P.*P)) then add 1 to a else add 1 to b end if if (matchText(Y, A) AND matchText(Y, E) AND matchText(Y, L) AND matchText(Y, P.*P)) then add 1 to c else add 1 to d end if end repeat put the millisec into tEnd put X Passed a times. cr into msg put X Failed b times. cr after msg put Y Passed c times. cr after msg put Y Failed d times. cr after msg put Z repeats took tEnd - tStart ms after msg The above should take less than 1 sec but for a million repeats I got: X Passed 0 times. X Failed 100 times. Y Passed 100 times. Y Failed 0 times. 100 repeats took 1997 ms NOTE: the above only works if the letters you are looking for can appear in ANY order. If you need a specific order then you'd have to regex matchText() for all searches, ie if (matchText(X, A.*E.*L.*P) AND matchText(X,P.*P)) then Yes, the P must appear in both searches to ensure a P has both an L before it and a P after it. HTH On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 8:22 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I have done a lot research and cannot find any way to do this: I have a string, AELPP and I want to see if all 5 of those letters are in search string If search string is: ABCDEKLP, then NO it isn't because there are two P's in the string I'm searching for. But if search string is: ABCDEKLLLMMOOPP, then YES the string I'm searching for is found in the search string. It is important to my program that I just find the 5 chars anywhere within the search string and they do not have to be sequential in the search string. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Replacing Characters
My experience is that when doing string searching offset() is by far the fastest way. But I don't know everything. Larry - Original Message - From: JB sund...@pacifier.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 10:26 PM Subject: Replacing Characters I want to replace every third character in a text string if it is a certain character. So lets say I have a list of characters there range from A thru F and the list is possibly 10,000 characters long. I want to check every third character in the list and if it is a D then I want to change it to a +. I can probably do it with a repeat and use a variable for a counter that resets every three times and then check the character when the counter gets to three but I was wondering if it could be done faster somehow. John Balgenorth ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
variable trouble
Hello, I'm using 6.6.3 on Windows XP. This line of code works just fine: put the keys of wgList03 into theseKeys but the following lines of code do NOT work: (where N is 3) -- and yes, it IS a ZERO after wgList put wgList0 N into thisVar put the keys of thisVar into theseKeys To me, this is just inexplicable and very frustrating. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: variable trouble
Hi Scott, I meant to say inexplicable to me. Your solution works great. However, I cannot figure out the next part: I want to put the value of thisKey into a variable when it matches. So I tried a few iterations of: put value(thisVar[thisKey]) space after newVar but could not get anything to work - with the parenthesis in different places. Do you know the syntax for adding the bracketed thisKey ?? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.com To: LiveCode Mail List use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:28 AM Subject: Re: variable trouble Hi Larry: Your situation is very explicable. In your script you're treating thisVar as an array, instead of accessing the array that you put into thisVar. You're trying to use one variable to refer to another. If I understand the result you want, one way would be to use the value function, to retrieve the data of the array stored in thisVar: put wgList0 N into thisVar put the keys of value(thisVar) into theseKeys Hope this works for you. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 9/23/14 11:07 PM, la...@significantplanet.org la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I'm using 6.6.3 on Windows XP. This line of code works just fine: put the keys of wgList03 into theseKeys but the following lines of code do NOT work: (where N is 3) -- and yes, it IS a ZERO after wgList put wgList0 N into thisVar put the keys of thisVar into theseKeys To me, this is just inexplicable and very frustrating. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: P.S. on searching for chars within a string
Hi Craig, Thanks for the tip. I am using a for each loop and have run some benchmark time tests. I am able to find (match) the words I want in about 1/7 of the time that it used to take me using a different procedure - and the old way was pretty fast! To find all the smaller words (length of 2 - 7) contained in a 12-ltr word, it used to take 3.46 seconds. Now it only takes 0.56 seconds. (finding 1698 words) And even better, the new way allows for getting the smaller words from a string of, say 30 chars, and it doesn't increase the time much - about 0.85 seconds for searching within 30 chars. With the old way, I couldn't even search on more than 12 chars, because it just took too long. So I learned a lot today! Larry P.S. Yes, I am using arrays. - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:10 PM Subject: Re: P.S. on searching for chars within a string Larry. Just read your brute force comment. Not sure how much data you want to compare, but a loop using the for each variant will run an awful lot of text in an awfully short time. What about that array thing, just for modernity and compactness/ Craig -Original Message- From: larry la...@significantplanet.org To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tue, Sep 23, 2014 8:25 pm Subject: P.S. on searching for chars within a string Hello again, I know how to do it with brute force, but I want to know the FASTEST way to find the chars. Thanks ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
sorting question
Hello, I have the following items in a field: AD, AE, AI, AN, AR, AS, AT, DE, DI, DO, EE, EN, ER, ES, ET, IN, IO, IS, IT, NO, NU, OE, OP, OR, OS, OU, PA, PE, PI, ST, TO, UP, UR, UT, DA, EA, ED, ID, NA, NE, OD, OI, ON, PO, RE, SI, SO, TA, TE, TI, UN, US You can see that they are not sorted alphabetically. I have a test button with: on mouseUp sort items of field myField end mouseUp However, the order of the items remains unchanged. I also tried: sort items of field myField text ascending but it didn't make a difference Thanks for the help, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
re: sorting question
Sorry, never mind! Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
now a paste question
Hello Dave, Yes, you guessed it correctly. However I have a new weird thing. I have a large amount of text - over 10,000 5-ltr words. I can copy and paste the entire text with no problem from one txt document to another via the clipboard. But when I try to paste the entire amount into a LC field (either 6.1.1 or 6.6.3) it will not paste in the whole amount. It seems that a couple of years ago someone told me that LC has some weird limitation on how much can be put into a field at one time. Does anyone know anything about that - or why I cannot paste the entire text into a LC field all at once. I can do pieces and keep going until all of it is in the field. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 2:40 AM Subject: Re: re: sorting question Sounds like you've sorted it Larry :) For others wondering what the cause was, it was likely that the spaces in each item were confusing things - so if they are removed prior to the sort it all works fine (they can be put back in after...) on mouseUp replace space with empty in fld fldTest sort items of fld fldTest replace comma with , in fld fldTest end mouseUp - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/sorting-question-tp4683684p4683687.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: now a paste question
THANKS Dave, I was going crazy trying to figure out the weird behavior. I guess I should have read the user guide! So I just put a return after every entry and, now, no problems! Thanks very much for your help. Larry - Original Message - From: Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 3:52 AM Subject: Re: now a paste question Hi Larry Page 43 of the LC User Guide states the maximum line length of a line in a field is 65,536 characters storage (No more than 32,786 pixels wide for display) Is your text all in one line by any chance? I haven't heard of a max size for a field but if you are having problems using a field how about using a custom property instead? - Some are born coders, some achieve coding, and some have coding thrust upon them. - William Shakespeare Hugh Senior -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/sorting-question-tp4683684p4683690.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
sort lines by length
Hello, this line doesn't work: sort lines of field myField by length of each Can someone please tell me the code for sorting a field by length of line? Thanks! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
searching for chars within a string
Hello, I have done a lot research and cannot find any way to do this: I have a string, AELPP and I want to see if all 5 of those letters are in search string If search string is: ABCDEKLP, then NO it isn't because there are two P's in the string I'm searching for. But if search string is: ABCDEKLLLMMOOPP, then YES the string I'm searching for is found in the search string. It is important to my program that I just find the 5 chars anywhere within the search string and they do not have to be sequential in the search string. Thanks for any help, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
P.S. on searching for chars within a string
Hello again, I know how to do it with brute force, but I want to know the FASTEST way to find the chars. Thanks ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
repeat with each
Hello, I have never been able to understand how to use the each form in a repeat statement. Can anyone explain why this code does not work? It is almost verbatim from the example in the LC dictionary. on mouseUp repeat for each word thisWord in field justOne put , after thisWord end repeat sort items of field justOne end mouseUp It does not insert the commas. Supposedly the each form is a lot faster than using put x + 1 into x put , after word x of field justOne Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
file size
Hello, I know I can use: put the files into field Current Files to get the size of a file (in bytes), but is there any way to use answer file or some other way to get the size of just one specific file? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: file size
Thanks Paul and Alex and Richard, I ended up using Paul's code: on mouseUp answer file ? put binfile: it into tFile put the length of URL tFile / 1000 KB into fld myResultField end mouseUp It works just great! Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: file size Larry, Try: on mouseUp answer file ? put binfile: it into tFile put the length of URL tFile / 1000 KB into fld myResultField end mouseUp Paul On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:29 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I know I can use: put the files into field Current Files to get the size of a file (in bytes), but is there any way to use answer file or some other way to get the size of just one specific file? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: file size
Hi Mike, good point, but actually my line is: put the length of URL tFile into field myResult because I want the actual number and not how many kb. Larry - Original Message - From: miked...@gmail.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com; How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:28 PM Subject: Re: file size To be technically correct divide by 1024. Mike Original Message From: la...@significantplanet.org Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 8:21 PM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: file size Thanks Paul and Alex and Richard, I ended up using Paul's code: on mouseUp answer file ? put binfile: it into tFile put the length of URL tFile / 1000 KB into fld myResultField end mouseUp It works just great! Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:50 PM Subject: Re: file size Larry, Try: on mouseUp answer file ? put binfile: it into tFile put the length of URL tFile / 1000 KB into fld myResultField end mouseUp Paul On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:29 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I know I can use: put the files into field Current Files to get the size of a file (in bytes), but is there any way to use answer file or some other way to get the size of just one specific file? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
reading a file
Hello, Could anyone please explain why the following script does not work? (It puts into the field the name of the selected file and not the contents of the file. on mouseUp answer file Select a file. put quote it quote into thisFile open file thisFile read from file thisFile until EOF put it into field myOutput close file thisFile end mouseUp Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: reading a file
Thanks Alain, Why is it that if I explicitly want to open a file, I have to put quotes around the name, but if I put the name in a variable, I do not need the quotes? Thank you again, Larry - Original Message - From: Alain Farmer alain_far...@yahoo.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:09 PM Subject: Re: reading a file replace: put quote it quote into thisFile with put it into thisFile On Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:03 PM, la...@significantplanet.org la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, Could anyone please explain why the following script does not work? (It puts into the field the name of the selected file and not the contents of the file. on mouseUp answer file Select a file. put quote it quote into thisFile open file thisFile read from file thisFile until EOF put it into field myOutput close file thisFile end mouseUp Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Usng an image to disable a group
Hi Peter, I'm not sure what you're exactly looking for in looks but I just now made a little test stack with colored buttons. You can adjust the blendlevel so that the group is as opaque or as transparent as you wish it to be. That's one idea. Larry - Original Message - From: Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 10:20 AM Subject: Usng an image to disable a group I have a stack with a series of groups on it. I need to control the order in which data is entered into the groups. The obvious/easy way is to enable/disable the groups as needed but I'm not happy with the way groups look when they are disabled. I vaguely remember a thread about using images to do this since clicks within the image don't make it through to the underlying controls. When I tried this, clicks on buttons that were under the image did not trigger any mouse events on them, as hoped, but field controls still get focus and I can type into them. It seems like this isn't going to work so looking for other ways to achieve this without having to go through every control in the group and adjusting their properties to disable them. Alternatively, is there a way to control how a group looks when it is disabled? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
large arrays
Hello, I made a program some years ago with Rev studio 2.9 that had some very large arrays in it. No problem. Then I got Rev 3.5 and it choked on the large arrays - took forever to load and display in Variables. Several years ago, I spoke to RunRev about it and they said they were going to resolve it. I am using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) and was just working with it on my old (large array) program. I can hardly do anything because LC is SO sluggish. If I want to edit a script, it takes several seconds to display what I am typing - so it is extremely difficult to see what I'm doing. Does anyone know of this issue and if it ever was fixed in some later version of LC? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: large arrays
Thanks Fraser, I will try that. Larry - Original Message - From: Fraser Gordon fraser.gor...@livecode.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 5:51 AM Subject: Re: large arrays On 19 Sep 2014, at 12:46, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello, I made a program some years ago with Rev studio 2.9 that had some very large arrays in it. No problem. Then I got Rev 3.5 and it choked on the large arrays - took forever to load and display in Variables. Several years ago, I spoke to RunRev about it and they said they were going to resolve it. I am using LC 6.1.1 (rc 4) and was just working with it on my old (large array) program. I can hardly do anything because LC is SO sluggish. If I want to edit a script, it takes several seconds to display what I am typing - so it is extremely difficult to see what I'm doing. Does anyone know of this issue and if it ever was fixed in some later version of LC? We have completely re-written how arrays are handled internally in LiveCode 7 so you could give it a go in that and let us know how you get on. Regards, Fraser ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: large arrays
Hello Richard, Here are the numbers: I wrote a program that is an anagram finder several years ago using Rev 2.9 and had NO problems with the arrays. As I mentioned, it choked starting with Rev 3.5 and every iteration of Rev or LC that I've tried since, up to the current 6.1.1 (rc 4) I haven't tried it in LC 7.0 yet. I have a hidden stack with my word fields in it - for words in length from 2 to 12. The word lists are optimized with a key for faster searching. When the program loads, it puts each of the 11 word list fields into one array - which takes about 1 second on my XP with 4gb of ram. The word lists vary in length (3-ltr words is 1292 lines the largest, 9-ltr words, is 40,727 lines.) Each line in all the lists averages less than 100 characters. The size of the field for 9-ltr words is 796kb if copied into a txt document. My old computer that I wrote the original program on with Rev 2.9 had less than 1gb of ram, so I don't think that is the issue. If I put in a 9 letter word such as ELEPHANTS, the program will find all anagrams (words found within the letters of ELEPHANTS) in about 4/10 of a second. The time varies slightly depending on whatever else is going on with my computer. That's a total of 596 words with my word lists and the program lists words and the number of words for each word length from 9 to 2. So the compiled version of my program works very satisfactorily. I'm now adding some other features to the program and, as I said, it is like trying to program on a typewriter that is full of mud. I spoke to someone at RunRev years ago and they acknowledged that there was an issue with arrays. Maybe it has been fixed in 7.0, but I haven't tried that yet. If you have any additional insights, I sure would appreciate it. Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: large arrays Just curious: How large is large? It would be interesting to know the number of elements. depth, and aggregate size. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: large arrays
Hello Richard, I had to leave for awhile but now here is the updated info: Using put len(arrayEncode(myArray)) I got the following: there are actually 11 different arrays - one for each of the word lengths from 2 to 12 letters. The 3-ltr word array is 17672 The 9-ltr word array is 1159610 (there are a lot more 9-ltr words than 3-ltr words.) I didn't do all the others, but that will give you an idea. 7 and 8-ltr words will be close to 9-ltr words in size I haven't yet had time to test with later versions, but once I do, I will let you know. The problem is not the time it takes to load the arrays. As I mentioned, it loads all 11 in just over 1 second. Once they are loaded, I access the data directly from the arrays and not from the fields. The number elements (lines) in the arrays varies. The 3-ltr array has 1292 lines - I guess that means elements. The 9-ltr array has 40,727 lines or elements. Each line is in a format like this: apt,APT,PAT,TAP where apt is the key, which only needs to be found once and it shows all the 3-ltr words that can be made with those letters. Of course, that speeds up the search process tremendously. The time (about .4 seconds) I mentioned for finding the 596 words found in ELEPHANTS is what I tested today. But I know that even on a slower computer using the stack built with Rev 2.9, the time was very close to that - about 1/2 of a second. About 5 or 6 years ago when I was using 2.9 and then upgraded to 3.5, I not only spoke to someone at RunRev (forgot who) but I also spoke to Jerry Daniels, of Daniel and Mara, on the phone about several RunRev things and we discussed the array issue. He acknowledged that with the release of 3.5 there were some serious array issues, that RunRev knew about them and Jerry hoped that they would soon be fixed. They were not fixed with the release of RunRev 4.0 and the only version of LC that I've used extensively is 6.1.1 and the array issues are still not fixed in that release - although I would say it is a big improvement over RunRev 3.5. The crazy thing is this: I haven't made any significant changes to my stack over the years - mostly cosmetic stuff and the array sizes are what they've always been. RunRev 2.9 never flinched, brought up the data in the arrays almost instantly. But since then it has been worse than trying to get my little grandson to wear a shirt. I'm working on other projects now, but wanted to incorporate some of the anagram features in my latest project. I am very reluctant to do so because the complete sluggishness of it makes it way too frustrating to try and program. Someday soon I will get around to trying LC 7.0 or 7.1 or whatever is there and HOPEFULLY the issue will be solved. In the meantime, thank you and Jacqueline SO MUCH for your kind attention and offers of help. All the best, Larry - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 1:19 PM Subject: Re: large arrays larry wrote: As I mentioned, it choked starting with Rev 3.5 and every iteration of Rev or LC that I've tried since, up to the current 6.1.1 (rc 4) The current shipping version is 6.6.3, and the latest test version lower than 7 is 6.7RC2. Please let us know if you see any significant change with either version. I have a hidden stack with my word fields in it - for words in length from 2 to 12. The word lists are optimized with a key for faster searching. When the program loads, it puts each of the 11 word list fields into one array - which takes about 1 second on my XP with 4gb of ram. If the problem is the time it takes to load the array, and the loading is happening from fields, the problem may not be in the arrays and perhaps in the field accesses. The word lists vary in length (3-ltr words is 1292 lines the largest, 9-ltr words, is 40,727 lines.) Each line in all the lists averages less than 100 characters. The size of the field for 9-ltr words is 796kb if copied into a txt document. So there are 11 elements in the array? If you run the array through arrayEncode and obtain its length, what is the size reported? put len(arrayEncode(tSomeArray)) If I put in a 9 letter word such as ELEPHANTS, the program will find all anagrams (words found within the letters of ELEPHANTS) in about 4/10 of a second. Is that the old time or the new time? If new, what is the old time (or vice versa)? I spoke to someone at RunRev years ago and they acknowledged that there was an issue with arrays. It would be interesting to know exactly what they'd said. While arrays have undergone revision a few times over the years, they tend to be very fast in every version I've used. Hopefully once we understand more of the details of your code we'll pin down the bottleneck and get your performance back on par. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design
trouble with 6.1.1 (rc4)
I'm using 6.1.1 (rc 4) on Windows XP I made a mistake in one of my card scripts and BLOOEY!!!, LiveCode went beserk and changed most of my buttons and fields to about 48 pt text size. Now, whenever I drag a NEW button onto my card, it still has that huge text size by default. I went to Preferences and clicked on Reset to Defaults and then closed LC entirely. If I open a New Stack, the button has the default text size of 10 or 12 or whatever it is. But if I open my existing stack where the trouble began, then a new button still has the 48 text size. This is driving me crazy!! So please help me not have to start taking lots of drugs... How can this be fixed? Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
browser app?
Hello, I came across this article: http://newsletters.livecode.com/february/issue149/newsletter4.php It describes a browser app for mobile phones. Does anyone know if the app could be adapted for a Windows desktop environment? Thanks for the help! Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: browser app?
Thanks Richard!! - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:30 AM Subject: Re: browser app? Larry wrote: I came across this article: http://newsletters.livecode.com/february/issue149/newsletter4.php It describes a browser app for mobile phones. Does anyone know if the app could be adapted for a Windows desktop environment? That article describes the revBrowser control for mobile. The desktop version has been available longer (for Mac and Win), and the LiveCode IDE install includes a demo showing how to use it: Click Resources in the toolbar, then in the Resource Center window click Tutorials - Internet - Browser Sampler -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
closing a browser tab?
Hello, I use the following: launch url myUrl and LC opens a browser tab in my default browser - cool. My question is this: Is there any way to close that tab when I want to? TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
player question
I have the following lines of code below: I put a number such as 10 into field myStart and then execute the code. The player still starts playing at the very beginning of the song. ? TIA Larry put field myStart * the timeScale of player myPlayer into tStart set the startTime of player myPlayer to tStart start player myPlayer ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: player question
Thanks Paul! That was all that was needed. Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:53 PM Subject: Re: player question Try adding the line: set the playSelection of player myPlayer to true Paul On 2014-09-12, at 4:56 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I have the following lines of code below: I put a number such as 10 into field myStart and then execute the code. The player still starts playing at the very beginning of the song. ? TIA Larry put field myStart * the timeScale of player myPlayer into tStart set the startTime of player myPlayer to tStart start player myPlayer ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: No WAV playback on Win in v6.6.2?
Hello Richard, I had a problem once with playing .wav Turns out that I had the wrong flavor of .wav I had to convert my wav files from 32 bit to 16 bit. Apparently LC doesn't handle wav files above 16 bit. Anyway, that was my experience. Good luck! Larry - Original Message - From: Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 7:37 PM Subject: No WAV playback on Win in v6.6.2? I could have sworn I'd been able to play WAV files in Windows (no QuickTime installed) within a LiveCode player object, but today I'm having no luck. Am I imagining things? LC seems to do well with MP3, but it would be very convenient for this project if I could use WAV. Am I missing something? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
url question
Hello, I use the following: launch url myUrl and LC opens a browser tab in my default browser - cool. My question is this: Is there any way to close that tab when I want to? TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
copying files in Windows 8
I have a little program where I copy some files from one folder to another with revCopyFile myFile,myFolder and also delete myFile The compiled program works fine on XP and Windows 7, but I get strange behavior on Windows 8. Is that perhaps because Windows 8 uses some different type of folder and file management? I am completely mystified. Thanks for any insights... Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Congrats LC 7.0! You finally broke my DB!
Sorry that happened Mark. LC seems to be following the same rule of business as Microsoft - Let's not worry too much about making our new stuff backward compatible with the old stuff. What do we care if people cannot run their old stuff anymore? an emphathetic coder Larry - Original Message - From: Mark Mitchell cowh...@mac.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:44 PM Subject: Congrats LC 7.0! You finally broke my DB! First of all, LC is an absolutely amazing product. It's actually so amazing that I don't want to tell anyone about it, as I can make my computer dance and sing, and everyone thinks I am a programming wiz... However, my basic data base app has been running my small company for about 14 years? I think it started with the free meta-card, which was limited to just 10 lines of code, so you had to keep passing your code from hidden object to object, in order to keep it free... anyone remember those days? It was like NASA controlling Voyager! Then, this app went through paid metacard, Revolution Beta, paid Revolution, all versions of Livecode and FINALLY LC 7.0 managed to break it... I don't want to seem like a whiner; I HAVE paid hundreds of dollars for various incarnations and complicated licenses of this, ever since I was a beta tester. (And I never received a stuffed animal!) But this DB app has run on, quite literally, more than 20 different computers and various operating systems. It has managed my company and allowed me to raise more than 7 cats. The DB used 'color coding' of the lines, so the color of the lines is vital information. LC 7.0 erases all the previous 13 year of coloring on the entire fields and reverts them to plain text.. thus dumping 13 years of essential information. All is OK, for the time being, I have trashed LC 7.0 and restored all stacks (which worked fine with LC 6.6 but will not open with LC 7.0). I have tested on multiple machines, and it has failed, yet it still works fine on LC 6.6. Is this not a bug? I have a feeling it is tied to the revamped unicode which LC 7.0 has promised, but which I have not yet had a chance to test. I have narrowed down the offending code to this: global planDate,linNum put absolutely anything into line linNum of card field plan -- It gets 'put' alright, but card field plan loses all previous formatting. Big, big bug if it changes folks' stacks forever! I've tried putting a global or a non-variable, and I get the same result. I would say I am doing something stupid, but I didn't DO anything, except upgrade to 7.0 (edit: in a previous post, I included an extraneous 'the' as I was testing to see if the type of variable mattered. Anyway, the 'the' doesn't matter. You still lose formatting without it.) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
icon sizes
does anyone know the sizes needed to include an icon in a Windows build? thanks p.s. why does LC make this information so difficult to find? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: icon sizes
Yes, Thanks Charles Larry - Original Message - From: Charles E Buchwald char...@buchwald.ca To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 12:20 PM Subject: Re: icon sizes Hi Larry, Is this helpful? http://buchwald.ca/lc/Windows-Icons.png - Charles On 08 Sep 2014, at 12:43 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: does anyone know the sizes needed to include an icon in a Windows build? thanks p.s. why does LC make this information so difficult to find? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Charles E. Buchwald CEO/Director General Museografica Digital http://digital.museografica.com Mac OSX 10.9.4, LC 6.6.2 Commercial LC Developer Tools: http://buchwald.ca Email Notice: http://wp.me/P3aT4d-33 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
2 lines on a button?
Hi All, I have a large button and I want the label to read either Show Instructions or Hide Instructions but I cannot figure out how to put the two words on two different lines in the label of the button. Is that possible to do? TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
re: 2 lines on a button
Never Mind! I was trying to do it in the property inspector and then I realized I can just say in the script: set the label of button myInstructions to Show return Instructions so simple, but in my defense, I'm still learning! Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 2 lines on a button
ha ha (I only wish I could be fast all the time!) - Original Message - From: Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 5:47 PM Subject: Re: 2 lines on a button larry- Dang! You're getting way too fast at this! I was thinking that would probably work, but I didn't even get a chance to test it before you answered your own question. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: 2 lines on a button
Thanks Phil, In many cases that will be easier! ( and I checked; you can put as many \n as the space on the button will allow: First\nSecond\nThird, etc.) Larry - Original Message - From: Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 8:46 PM Subject: Re: 2 lines on a button Larry, Another way to do it in the Property Inspector is type \n between the first and second lines of the label, like this: first line\nsecond line Regards - Phil On 9/8/14, 4:43 PM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Never Mind! I was trying to do it in the property inspector and then I realized I can just say in the script: set the label of button myInstructions to Show return Instructions so simple, but in my defense, I'm still learning! Thanks, Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- Phil Davis ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: copying files
Thank you Kay - Original Message - From: Kay C Lan lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: copying files On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 6:00 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I need to copy some files from one folder to another in Windows. I have searched the dictionary and cannot figure it out. I opened the Dictonary, typed 'move' into the search field and found 'revMoveFolder'. Reading that entry, at the bottom is a User Note by Rodney that says: to move a file see 'rename'. So I typed 'rename' in the search field and under that entry it says: Gives a file or folder a new name or moves it to a new location or both. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
copying files
Hello All, I need to copy some files from one folder to another in Windows. I have searched the dictionary and cannot figure it out. Is there a way to have thisFile.txt in one folder and copy the file to another folder? TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?
Hi Peter, Thanks very much for the explanation. Larry - Original Message - From: Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 6:12 AM Subject: Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing? On Sep 1, 2014, at 3:50 PM, la...@significantplanet.org la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hi Paul, As Richmond says, That's a clever idea. However, I have no understanding of what a frontScript is and no understanding of how to trap those events. Perhaps you'd be willing to elaborate for me? Create a button with the following script: on mousedown if put your conditions here then -- block mousedown else pass mousedown end if end mousedown on mouseup if put your conditions here then -- block mouseup else pass mouseup end if end mouseup Then in an openstack handler put the following line: insert script of btn myFrontScript into front A front script resides at the very front of the message path, and all messages will pass to it before going to any controls, cards, or stacks. Anything not handled by the frontscript will then pass to the normal message path. Any message blocked by the frontscript will stop there without getting passed. Frontscripts are very useful for handling special actions that must prevail everywhere in your stack. In most cases you will want to be sure to put the following in your closestack handler: remove script of btn myFrontScript from front to be sure that your blocking action does not persist when it is not needed. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
how to stop mouse clicks from executing?
I have a situation in my program where I'm showing the user some stuff. I do not want the user to be able to click with the mouse during this time. What is the best way to do that? Actually it would be great if the user couldn't even move the mouse (within my program) during this time. TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing?
Hi Paul, As Richmond says, That's a clever idea. However, I have no understanding of what a frontScript is and no understanding of how to trap those events. Perhaps you'd be willing to elaborate for me? Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Dupuis p...@researchware.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing? insert a frontScript containing mouseDown and mouseUp handlers to trap those events when you want to block them and remove the frontScript when done That will still allow mouseStillDown and mouseRelease messages to be passed for drag operations On 9/1/2014 2:14 PM, Richmond wrote: On 1.09.2014 21:03, miked...@gmail.com wrote: How about setting the cursor to none and locking the cursor? Because the chap may still need the cursor for something else (such as grab). Mike Original Message From: Richmond Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 1:59 PM To: How to use LiveCode Reply To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: how to stop mouse clicks from executing? On 1.09.2014 20:23, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I have a situation in my program where I'm showing the user some stuff. I do not want the user to be able to click with the mouse during this time. What is the best way to do that? Actually it would be great if the user couldn't even move the mouse (within my program) during this time. TIA Larry ___ How about this sort of code in your cardScript: on mouseUp if fld NIX contains 1 then ---do nix end if end mouseUp then have an offscreen fld NIX that you put 1 onto when your slide-show starts, and you put 'empty' into when it finishes? of course you could move that script out of the cardScript into all your buttons on the card like this: on mouseUp if fld NIX contains 1 then ---do nix else --do whatever you want this button to do end if end mouseUp Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
screen resolution
Hi All, Is there a way to detect screen resolution in Windows? I'm creating a stack that is 1280 x 980, but I know some people still have a 1024 x 768 monitor (like my dad.) I'd like to know if there is a way to automatically or programatically resize my stack and the elements in the stack so it will display on the smaller monitor. TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Helping newcomers anticipate that standalones can't save tothemselves
Great concept from Paul. To that I would add this: I agree 100% that the LC documentation is slowly improving, but has a LONG way to go. Speaking of tutorials, what would be really helpful is a series of videos that are screen capture tutorials - someone who knows what they're doing literally walking a newbie through a specific lesson. As you all know, there is a ton of free or for purchase screen capture software out there. I am not sure the best way to organize this idea, but if this list could somehow come up with an organized list of topics, then one or more programmers on the list could create the video(s) for a particular topic and post it somewhere. Personally, I would recommend a series of videos that range from something as simple as how to drag a button onto the IDE and set its properties (even I could make that video) to something as complex as creating a plugin for the IDE. (for someone else to make!) If we had a video series such as this, I would absolutely encourage some of my (young) grandchildren to learn programming basics with LC and the videos. I really do believe that one of the great strengths of LC is that a newbie can actually make a simple program that actually works - and not just Hello World. I've never taken a programming class, but because of LC (and this list helping me) I've written dozens of little programs that I personally use a lot and a couple of bigger more sophisticated programs. That's my opinion of what this list might want to think about. Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:28 AM Subject: Re: Helping newcomers anticipate that standalones can't save tothemselves From my own point of view, I struggled trying to understand some of the basic principles of using LC (Revolution as it was then), until I finally picked apart some sample stacks such as the calculator etc., then a few things started to fall in to place. After that I looked for stacks that had a similar use or techniques to the project I wanted to build (I still do to an extent), to find ideas and learn about how LC works in ways that I maybe don't know or understand. My biggest frustration at the time was the disjointed documentation and lack of structured tutorials, many people have also made the same comments over the years. I feel the tutorials especially have improved and the documentation is improving slowly. Thinking back to when I discovered that I needed an anchor window (or splash screen), again I had to do more research to find out what was needed until I eventually understood the reasons and principles behind this process. Maybe this could be addressed with a good, well structured My First Application tutorial that ships with each new user download, or a package that's easily visible and readily available for new users to download. Currently there is just a free mobile template that tries to entice users to download the community version. I'm sure there are enough teachers and ex-teachers on this list that could maybe help with this. A well structured tutorial can help to guide the new user with the right techniques from the start. Moving forward from the anchor window (or splash screen), I also feel a series of basic project templates (or starting points) could be useful, not as complex as the GLX framework, but something that already has an anchor window, preferences, menu bar and a few basic (commented) scripts for printing, saving etc. Obviously these templates would be different for desktop, mobile or tablet, but starting from a template rather than a single empty stack would eventually help to guide the new user towards a better understanding of the techniques needed for each platform. Paul On 2014-08-15, at 7:13 AM, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: One of the most frequent frustrations new users have with LiveCode is the moment they realize the standalone they've built can't save changes to its stacks. Often this happens very late in the process, just after building the standalone to test out the work they've been doing, and suddenly everything that worked so well in the IDE stops working, with no readily discernible cause. So they come into the forums or this list, and folks mention everything from refactoring their work to use an anchor window (or splash screen) pattern, or completely rewrite everything to use an external text file or database or what have you. The LiveCode User Guide's section on building standalones includes a bold purple callout box explaining this (p 299), but it's a testament to the usability of LiveCode that apparently a great many people can use it productively for many weeks without ever cracking the User Guide. Clearly something more is needed. What should that be? Putting a note in the Standalone Builder might help, but if they've
sorting
I have a field I want to sort. Each line has 4 words. I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word. Example: apple box apple pie apple zoo baby blue baby rattle baby zoo etc. TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: sorting
Hello Alex, OK, in my previous email I gave some hypothetical data. In my app I actually have a field where the first word is either Advanced or Beginner The 2nd word is a number ranging from 2 to 25, showing how many items. There are some other words after those, but I'm not concerned about them. As lines are added to the field, they are in jumbled order. What I want is this on the sort: (All the Beginners in numeric order, followed by all the Advanced in numeric order) Beginner 1 Beginner 2 Beginner 3 (etc.) Advanced 1 Advanced 2 Advanced 3 (etc.) Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:51 AM Subject: Re: sorting Larry, can you be more explicit about how it doesn't work ? Actually, can you explain better what you want to do ? You said you want to sort by the 2nd and then the 3rd word - but gave an example that appeared to show sorting by 2nd and 1st - and not even have a 3rd word in any line. So how about a slightly less terse description, and an example showing both before and after and hopefully we can get you to where you want -- Alex. On 09/08/2014 09:14, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Sorry, that doesn't work - Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:58 AM Subject: Re: sorting sort theList by word 2 of each sort theList by word 1 of each sort order is retained in-between commands, that's why it works. On 09 Aug 2014, at 08:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I have a field I want to sort. Each line has 4 words. I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word. Example: apple box apple pie apple zoo baby blue baby rattle baby zoo etc. TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: sorting
Hello Craig, That doesn't work either. When I use the following line, it works: sort lines of field myList numeric by word 2 of each But then when I try to do two sorts with the following line, I get the error message below: sort lines of field myList descending by word 1 of each numeric by word 2 of each (Error) button Button: execution error at line 2 (Handler: can't find handler) near by, char 74 If I leave out the second by I get a compile error saying I need to put it in. At this point I am believing that there are lots of theories about how to make it work, but nobody actually knows how to make it work. Thank you anyway, Larry - Original Message - From: dunb...@aol.com To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:59 AM Subject: Re: sorting Way back from 1987, and undocumented everywhere except in the user notes in the dictionary here, is this; Multiple stable sorts may be implemented directly by concatenating sortKeys: sort container by sortKey1 sortKey2 sortKey3... Sortkey order determines the sorting sequence So you can: sort lines of yourList by word 1 of each word 3 of each Craig Newman -Original Message- From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 5:52 am Subject: Re: sorting Larry, can you be more explicit about how it doesn't work ? Actually, can you explain better what you want to do ? You said you want to sort by the 2nd and then the 3rd word - but gave an example that appeared to show sorting by 2nd and 1st - and not even have a 3rd word in any line. So how about a slightly less terse description, and an example showing both before and after and hopefully we can get you to where you want -- Alex. On 09/08/2014 09:14, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Sorry, that doesn't work - Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:58 AM Subject: Re: sorting sort theList by word 2 of each sort theList by word 1 of each sort order is retained in-between commands, that's why it works. On 09 Aug 2014, at 08:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I have a field I want to sort. Each line has 4 words. I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word. Example: apple box apple pie apple zoo baby blue baby rattle baby zoo etc. TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: sorting - THANK YOU PAUL!!
Hi Paul, After trying MANY suggestions and my own trial and ERRORS, you finally provided me with a solution that actually works. I very much appreciate that you actually tested it. I have the feeling that many times in this list well-meaning people post solutions that they have not tested and therefore often do not work. Thanks again, Larry - Original Message - From: Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: sorting Larry, If I understand right, just change the direction of the second sort to put the beginners first, this worked for my test: on mouseUp sort lines of fld sortField by word 2 of each sort lines of fld sortField descending by word 1 of each end mouseUp Paul On 2014-08-09, at 4:56 AM, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Hello Alex, OK, in my previous email I gave some hypothetical data. In my app I actually have a field where the first word is either Advanced or Beginner The 2nd word is a number ranging from 2 to 25, showing how many items. There are some other words after those, but I'm not concerned about them. As lines are added to the field, they are in jumbled order. What I want is this on the sort: (All the Beginners in numeric order, followed by all the Advanced in numeric order) Beginner 1 Beginner 2 Beginner 3 (etc.) Advanced 1 Advanced 2 Advanced 3 (etc.) Thanks, Larry - Original Message - From: Alex Tweedly a...@tweedly.net To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:51 AM Subject: Re: sorting Larry, can you be more explicit about how it doesn't work ? Actually, can you explain better what you want to do ? You said you want to sort by the 2nd and then the 3rd word - but gave an example that appeared to show sorting by 2nd and 1st - and not even have a 3rd word in any line. So how about a slightly less terse description, and an example showing both before and after and hopefully we can get you to where you want -- Alex. On 09/08/2014 09:14, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: Sorry, that doesn't work - Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke b...@mac.com To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:58 AM Subject: Re: sorting sort theList by word 2 of each sort theList by word 1 of each sort order is retained in-between commands, that's why it works. On 09 Aug 2014, at 08:24, la...@significantplanet.org wrote: I have a field I want to sort. Each line has 4 words. I want to sort by the first word (ascending) and then do a 2nd sort by the 3rd word without changing the order of the first word. Example: apple box apple pie apple zoo baby blue baby rattle baby zoo etc. TIA Larry ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
