Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
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>
>
> Anyway, this has been on Heather's mind - hopefully she will come up with
> an alternate solution in due course.
>

I assume that the software uses either mySQL or postgreSQL?

The direct command
  DELETE FROM theMessageDatasbase WHERE USER='thatScumbag';

should do the trick.

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Mark Waddingham wrote:

> I have asked Heather about this, but unfortunately our forum software
> has no admin level between the current ones we give to external
> moderators and complete administrative access. The latter is not
> something we can grant to external moderators as it gives you access
> to too much data and we'd start to fall foul of Data Protection laws
> in the UK.

I appreciate your looking into this.

> Also, apparantly it is really really easy to make an unrecoverable
> mistake with such an access level...

Moderators already have the means of performing a wide range of tasks 
that make it easy to make unrecoverable errors.  We're pretty careful.


> Anyway, this has been on Heather's mind - hopefully she will come up
> with an alternate solution in due course.

If you find an internal resource to periodically monitor the forums you 
should be set.


Two other items on the wish list:

- Keep the PHPBB version up to date
- Add SSL

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread Lagi Pittas via use-livecode
If Klaus and Richard can't be given Admin rights then the world is doomed.

If it is data protection then surely you must  have the some way of
allowing  a new employee/current employee of the company to have admin
rights.
But some of these nanny state laws that are totally ignored by the very
people that make them really p**s me off. Thewse are not  bank/financial
records  and neither Richard or Klaus  are  Banksters - plus the fact I'm
sure they won't peek - Trust them morte than I trust google or our
governments..


my two pence/cents worth.

Lagi

On 15 August 2017 at 13:51, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> On 2017-08-15 14:26, hh via use-livecode wrote:
>
>> But better stop manual deletion now. As long as you do that probably
>> nothing
>> will improve/change. It would be an action of 2 minutes to enable you and
>> some
>> others (Richard) to do that in a few seconds.
>>
>
> I have asked Heather about this, but unfortunately our forum software has
> no admin level between the current ones we give to external moderators and
> complete administrative access. The latter is not something we can grant to
> external moderators as it gives you access to too much data and we'd start
> to fall foul of Data Protection laws in the UK.
>
> Also, apparantly it is really really easy to make an unrecoverable mistake
> with such an access level...
>
> Anyway, this has been on Heather's mind - hopefully she will come up with
> an alternate solution in due course.
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
> Mark.
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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode

On 2017-08-15 14:26, hh via use-livecode wrote:
But better stop manual deletion now. As long as you do that probably 
nothing
will improve/change. It would be an action of 2 minutes to enable you 
and some

others (Richard) to do that in a few seconds.


I have asked Heather about this, but unfortunately our forum software 
has no admin level between the current ones we give to external 
moderators and complete administrative access. The latter is not 
something we can grant to external moderators as it gives you access to 
too much data and we'd start to fall foul of Data Protection laws in the 
UK.


Also, apparantly it is really really easy to make an unrecoverable 
mistake with such an access level...


Anyway, this has been on Heather's mind - hopefully she will come up 
with an alternate solution in due course.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread hh via use-livecode
>> Mark wrote:
>> This is getting annoying.

> Klaus wrote:
> I just deleted 71 slavic spam postings from the forum manually again,
> now THAT is getting annoying!

+71 for you. Thanks for that.

But better stop manual deletion now. As long as you do that probably nothing
will improve/change. It would be an action of 2 minutes to enable you and some
others (Richard) to do that in a few seconds.


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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-15 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode

> Am 15.08.2017 um 07:30 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> On 08/12/2017 02:47 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
>> Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant 
>> privileges.
>> I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and 
>> having others who are willing to assist can only help.
> 
> This is getting annoying.

I just deleted 71 slavic spam postings from the forum manually again, now THAT 
is getting annoying!

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Best

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode

On 08/12/2017 02:47 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:

Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant 
privileges.

I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and having 
others who are willing to assist can only help.


This is getting annoying.

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Office 365 and Kaspersky and our router subscriptions seem to be working then. 
I got nothing. :-)

Bob S


> On Aug 14, 2017, at 11:50 , Jim Lambert via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Klaus wrote:
>> 
>> I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of minutes ago…
> 
> Спасибо   ;)
> 
> Jim Lambert

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Jim Lambert via use-livecode
> Klaus wrote:
> 
> I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of minutes ago…

Спасибо   ;)

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
More moderators may be helpful for some tasks, but the crux of this 
particular issue is the efficiency of the attacking bot, the sheer 
number of messages.


I appreciate Klaus taking the time to delete those manually, and in the 
past I've ditched large batches myself.


But since PHPBB provides a way to delete all of them at once, when Klaus 
and I and the other moderators get the ability to do that it'll make 
shortwork of a previously-onerous task.


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Mike Kerner wrote:

> Yeah, a few more community moderators would be welcome.
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Klaus wrote:
>
>> > Am 12.08.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham wrote:
>> > Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the
>> > relevant privileges.
>>
>> I had been asking for this a long time ago, but obviously the
>> mothership did not want to trust a long time user (since 1999)
>> who already has (limited) admin permissions for a couple of years
>> on the forum, THAT far.
>>
>> So I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of minutes
>> ago...
>>
>> I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis
>> and having others who are willing to assist can only help.


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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-14 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Yeah, a few more community moderators would be welcome.

On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

>
> > Am 12.08.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant
> privileges.
>
> I had been asking for this a long time ago, but obviously the mothership
> did not want to trust a long time user (since 1999)
> who already has (limited) admin permissions for a couple of years on the
> forum, THAT far.
>
> So I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of minutes
> ago...
>
> > I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and
> having others who are willing to assist can only help.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 12 Aug 2017, at 21:26, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> >>
> >>> The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
> >>> cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from
> >>> the Ukraine).
> >>
> >> Thank you for the report.  In the future, please use the "Report Post"
> link near the upper-right of each post.  That will flag it for moderation,
> where it will normally be handled quickly as soon as the next moderator
> shows up and does our customary "New Posts" to review.
> >>
> >> In this case (and the copycat later today) I banned the user but did
> not remove the posts.  There were too many.  In the past I used to hunt
> down individual posts and delete them, because that's all my moderator
> privileges allowed.  Since then I've used PHPBB on other sites where I have
> full privileges, and PHPBB provides an option to delete all posts from a
> given user, a much better use of time.
> >>
> >> I've written Support to let them decide whether to elevate my
> privileges to allow me to efficiently remove the spam posts, or to user
> their own powers to do so.  Hopefully that will be addressed shortly.
> >>
> >> --
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>
> Best
>
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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-13 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode

> Am 12.08.2017 um 23:47 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant 
> privileges.

I had been asking for this a long time ago, but obviously the mothership did 
not want to trust a long time user (since 1999)
who already has (limited) admin permissions for a couple of years on the forum, 
THAT far.

So I deleted the 49 slavic spam postings manually a couple of minutes ago...

> I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and 
> having others who are willing to assist can only help.
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> Mark.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 12 Aug 2017, at 21:26, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
>> 
>>> The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
>>> cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from
>>> the Ukraine).
>> 
>> Thank you for the report.  In the future, please use the "Report Post" link 
>> near the upper-right of each post.  That will flag it for moderation, where 
>> it will normally be handled quickly as soon as the next moderator shows up 
>> and does our customary "New Posts" to review.
>> 
>> In this case (and the copycat later today) I banned the user but did not 
>> remove the posts.  There were too many.  In the past I used to hunt down 
>> individual posts and delete them, because that's all my moderator privileges 
>> allowed.  Since then I've used PHPBB on other sites where I have full 
>> privileges, and PHPBB provides an option to delete all posts from a given 
>> user, a much better use of time.
>> 
>> I've written Support to let them decide whether to elevate my privileges to 
>> allow me to efficiently remove the spam posts, or to user their own powers 
>> to do so.  Hopefully that will be addressed shortly.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Richard Gaskin
>> Fourth World Systems
>> Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

Best

Klaus

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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Thank you - I'm sure there will be no issue with giving you the relevant 
privileges.

I know Heather has to deal with things like this on a regular basis and having 
others who are willing to assist can only help.

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Aug 2017, at 21:26, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Richmond Mathewson wrote:
> 
> > The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
> > cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from
> > the Ukraine).
> 
> Thank you for the report.  In the future, please use the "Report Post" link 
> near the upper-right of each post.  That will flag it for moderation, where 
> it will normally be handled quickly as soon as the next moderator shows up 
> and does our customary "New Posts" to review.
> 
> In this case (and the copycat later today) I banned the user but did not 
> remove the posts.  There were too many.  In the past I used to hunt down 
> individual posts and delete them, because that's all my moderator privileges 
> allowed.  Since then I've used PHPBB on other sites where I have full 
> privileges, and PHPBB provides an option to delete all posts from a given 
> user, a much better use of time.
> 
> I've written Support to let them decide whether to elevate my privileges to 
> allow me to efficiently remove the spam posts, or to user their own powers to 
> do so.  Hopefully that will be addressed shortly.
> 
> -- 
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> Fourth World Systems
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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode

Richmond Mathewson wrote:

> The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
> cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from
> the Ukraine).

Thank you for the report.  In the future, please use the "Report Post" 
link near the upper-right of each post.  That will flag it for 
moderation, where it will normally be handled quickly as soon as the 
next moderator shows up and does our customary "New Posts" to review.


In this case (and the copycat later today) I banned the user but did not 
remove the posts.  There were too many.  In the past I used to hunt down 
individual posts and delete them, because that's all my moderator 
privileges allowed.  Since then I've used PHPBB on other sites where I 
have full privileges, and PHPBB provides an option to delete all posts 
from a given user, a much better use of time.


I've written Support to let them decide whether to elevate my privileges 
to allow me to efficiently remove the spam posts, or to user their own 
powers to do so.  Hopefully that will be addressed shortly.


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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I don't know whether to laugh or cry; the latest "TERenist" is flooding 
the Forum

with links to the Ukrainian anti-corruption authorities!

Richmond.

On 8/12/17 10:50 pm, Brian Milby via use-livecode wrote:
  
  


  I guess we can use the "foe" feature to hide their posts (turns them into a 
single line).I'll see what it does to the digest shortly.
  

  
  

  
  
  
On Aug 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM,  mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com)>  wrote:
  
  
  
  Someone left the back door off the latch: bestdocs DilNeva and so it goes; and if everyone is "off" for their weekend it will keep going until we really are flooded. R. On 8/12/17 4:38 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote:  >  The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about  >  cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from  >  the Ukraine).  >   >  Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode


  
  
  
  
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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
 
 

 I guess we can use the "foe" feature to hide their posts (turns them into a 
single line).I'll see what it does to the digest shortly.
 

 
 

 
 
>  
> On Aug 12, 2017 at 1:55 PM,   (mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com)>  wrote:
>  
>  
>  
>  Someone left the back door off the latch: bestdocs DilNeva and so it goes; 
> and if everyone is "off" for their weekend it will keep going until we really 
> are flooded. R. On 8/12/17 4:38 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote:  >  The Forums 
> are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about  >  cars in Russian 
> (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from  >  the Ukraine).  >   >  
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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

Someone left the back door off the latch:

bestdocs

DilNeva

and so it goes; and if everyone is "off" for their weekend it will keep 
going until we really are flooded.


R.



On 8/12/17 4:38 pm, Richmond Mathewson wrote:

The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from
the Ukraine).

Richmond.


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Re: Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 6:38 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
> cars in Russian
>

Maybe they mistook it for an election?

:)


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Forum: Waves of Russian Nonsense

2017-08-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode

The Forums are filling up quickly with a whole lot of nonsense about
cars in Russian (althought, oddly enough it seems to be coming from
the Ukraine).

Richmond.
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