Re: Marker image sizes
Bernd set the standard for community assistance. The level of detail he applies to all of the many code examples he shares to help people get the most out of LiveCode is an inspiration to all of us. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com J. Landman Gay wrote: It took me some time to get around to trying this, but I must say, this marker will be very useful to some of us. :) Thanks for making these tools available, Bernd. On 8/12/2014, 12:08 PM, BNig wrote: and for a nice marker made with above utility set the markerPoints of a polygon graphic to -- -4,-6 -4,-5 -4,-4 -4,-3 -4,-2 -4,-1 -4,0 -4,0 -5,0 -6,0 -2,-4 -2,-3 -2,-2 -2,-1 -2,0 -2,-4 -1,-4 0,-4 1,-4 1,-4 1,-3 1,-2 1,-1 1,0 -2,-2 -1,-2 0,-2 3,-4 4,-4 5,-4 3,-4 3,-3 3,-2 3,-1 3,0 3,0 4,0 5,0 -6,2 -5,2 -4,2 -6,2 -6,3 -6,4 -6,4 -5,4 -4,4 -4,2 -4,3 -4,4 -4,5 -4,6 -2,2 -2,3 -2,4 -2,5 -2,6 -2,6 -1,6 0,6 1,6 1,6 1,5 1,4 1,3 1,2 3,2 3,3 3,4 3,5 3,6 3,2 4,2 5,2 3,6 4,6 5,6 3,4 4,4 - -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jacque at hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
It took me some time to get around to trying this, but I must say, this marker will be very useful to some of us. :) Thanks for making these tools available, Bernd. On 8/12/2014, 12:08 PM, BNig wrote: and for a nice marker made with above utility set the markerPoints of a polygon graphic to -- -4,-6 -4,-5 -4,-4 -4,-3 -4,-2 -4,-1 -4,0 -4,0 -5,0 -6,0 -2,-4 -2,-3 -2,-2 -2,-1 -2,0 -2,-4 -1,-4 0,-4 1,-4 1,-4 1,-3 1,-2 1,-1 1,0 -2,-2 -1,-2 0,-2 3,-4 4,-4 5,-4 3,-4 3,-3 3,-2 3,-1 3,0 3,0 4,0 5,0 -6,2 -5,2 -4,2 -6,2 -6,3 -6,4 -6,4 -5,4 -4,4 -4,2 -4,3 -4,4 -4,5 -4,6 -2,2 -2,3 -2,4 -2,5 -2,6 -2,6 -1,6 0,6 1,6 1,6 1,5 1,4 1,3 1,2 3,2 3,3 3,4 3,5 3,6 3,2 4,2 5,2 3,6 4,6 5,6 3,4 4,4 - -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Le 12 août 2014 à 01:07, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com a écrit : Thank you, that must have taken you a while to figure out. You're very kind. It's not so long to do, if one has some squared paper, but Bernd's stack (he sent it to me, thanks again Bernd) is far better ! Do you ever feel like when we talk, we should call ourselves this me? Sometimes I think I am talking to myself. :) Behavior buttons are a very good example of Multiple Personality Disorder... I would favor myself or even better itself over this me. Something concerning the parent button itself. ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel:++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Hi, since there was a stack mentioned I figured I make it available. The stack makes markerPoints for graphics in form of circle or ellipse. The stack has a minimalistic layout and the math for drawing an ellipse is taken from a stack from Jim James Hurley. http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/markers/markerUtilityCircle.livecode There is also a stack on LiveCodeShare that allows drawing or marker shapes http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/396/MakeMarker-Utility and for a nice marker made with above utility set the markerPoints of a polygon graphic to -- -4,-6 -4,-5 -4,-4 -4,-3 -4,-2 -4,-1 -4,0 -4,0 -5,0 -6,0 -2,-4 -2,-3 -2,-2 -2,-1 -2,0 -2,-4 -1,-4 0,-4 1,-4 1,-4 1,-3 1,-2 1,-1 1,0 -2,-2 -1,-2 0,-2 3,-4 4,-4 5,-4 3,-4 3,-3 3,-2 3,-1 3,0 3,0 4,0 5,0 -6,2 -5,2 -4,2 -6,2 -6,3 -6,4 -6,4 -5,4 -4,4 -4,2 -4,3 -4,4 -4,5 -4,6 -2,2 -2,3 -2,4 -2,5 -2,6 -2,6 -1,6 0,6 1,6 1,6 1,5 1,4 1,3 1,2 3,2 3,3 3,4 3,5 3,6 3,2 4,2 5,2 3,6 4,6 5,6 3,4 4,4 - Kind regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Marker-image-sizes-tp4681893p4681949.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Hi Jacque, Trying to build a 12x12 round marker, I realized that the markers coordinates 0,0 are positioned on the polygon vertex... so my previous circle was not correctly centered. And, a circle of 8x8 or 12x12 never will, you have to use odd numbers of pixels to have the marker well centered ! so, a 7x7 circle: 0,-3,1,-3,2,-2,3,-1,3,0,3,1,2,2,1,3,0,3,-1,3,-2,2,-3,1,-3,0,-3,-1,-2,-2,-1,-3,0,-3 and a 11x11 circle: 0,-5,1,-5,2,-4,3,-4,4,-3,4,-2,5,-1,5,0,5,1,4,2,4,3,3,4,2,4,1,5,0,5,-1,5,-2,4,-3,4,-4,3,-4,2,-5,1,-5,0,-5,-1,-4,-2,-4,-3,-3,-4,-2,-4,-1,-5,0,-5 Jacques On 8/10/2014, 7:25 PM, Jacques Hausser wrote: An the inner glow gives a decent result. What's boring is to set the points for a 8 x 8 circle... I offer it to you ;-) 2,0,3,0,4,0,5,0,6,1,7,2,7,3,7,4,7,5,6,6,5,7,4,7,3,7,2,7,1,6,0,5,0,4,0,3,0,2,1,1,2,0 ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel:++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
On 8/11/2014, 3:26 AM, Jacques Hausser wrote: so, a 7x7 circle: 0,-3,1,-3,2,-2,3,-1,3,0,3,1,2,2,1,3,0,3,-1,3,-2,2,-3,1,-3,0,-3,-1,-2,-2,-1,-3,0,-3 and a 11x11 circle: 0,-5,1,-5,2,-4,3,-4,4,-3,4,-2,5,-1,5,0,5,1,4,2,4,3,3,4,2,4,1,5,0,5,-1,5,-2,4,-3,4,-4,3,-4,2,-5,1,-5,0,-5,-1,-4,-2,-4,-3,-3,-4,-2,-4,-1,-5,0,-5 Thank you, that must have taken you a while to figure out. You're very kind. Do you ever feel like when we talk, we should call ourselves this me? Sometimes I think I am talking to myself. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
When I talk about you behind your back, I usually say that her, and people get the reference. :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, UX/UI Design On 8/11/14 4:07 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Do you ever feel like when we talk, we should call ourselves this me? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
I don't think it is possible to do what I need, but if anyone has time to tinker, I've put an example stack here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23431607/markerTest.livecode The problem seems to be that the markers are drawn based on each point's position as it would lie on a tiled copy of the original image. Markers are not drawn individually, they are stamped out of the tiled copy in the buffer. I don't see a solution to this. On 8/10/2014, 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Does anyone know how the engine calculates the size of an image used to draw the markers on a polygon graphic? I have an image that is 8 pixels square but when used as a marker it appears smaller. I've fiddled with the linesize of the graphic, which does change the marker size, but instead of drawing the image larger, it starts to tile it. The graphics are smallish (under 40 pixels in any dimension.) Does the number of points make a difference? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
I forgot to mention, I can get something close if I make the markers about half the size of the original images, but I need them to be the same size as the originals. On 8/10/2014, 5:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't think it is possible to do what I need, but if anyone has time to tinker, I've put an example stack here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23431607/markerTest.livecode The problem seems to be that the markers are drawn based on each point's position as it would lie on a tiled copy of the original image. Markers are not drawn individually, they are stamped out of the tiled copy in the buffer. I don't see a solution to this. On 8/10/2014, 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Does anyone know how the engine calculates the size of an image used to draw the markers on a polygon graphic? I have an image that is 8 pixels square but when used as a marker it appears smaller. I've fiddled with the linesize of the graphic, which does change the marker size, but instead of drawing the image larger, it starts to tile it. The graphics are smallish (under 40 pixels in any dimension.) Does the number of points make a difference? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Hi Jacque, I'm not going to claim any understanding of the engine… but, I played a bit and maybe this info will be helpful. I messed with creating the image within LC6.6.2 OSX 8.5:import snapshot from grc DemoOval and experimented with different size graphics. I started using a 100x100 graphic… the imported image matched the size of the graphic… The image matched the size of the graphic down to 9x9… but when the graphic was set to 8x8, the resulting image was 120x120… the same 120x120 was the result when the imported graphic was 7x7, 6x6, 5x5, 4x4, 3x3, 2x2, and even 1x1. be well, randy hengst -- On Aug 10, 2014, at 5:59 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: I forgot to mention, I can get something close if I make the markers about half the size of the original images, but I need them to be the same size as the originals. On 8/10/2014, 5:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't think it is possible to do what I need, but if anyone has time to tinker, I've put an example stack here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23431607/markerTest.livecode The problem seems to be that the markers are drawn based on each point's position as it would lie on a tiled copy of the original image. Markers are not drawn individually, they are stamped out of the tiled copy in the buffer. I don't see a solution to this. On 8/10/2014, 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Does anyone know how the engine calculates the size of an image used to draw the markers on a polygon graphic? I have an image that is 8 pixels square but when used as a marker it appears smaller. I've fiddled with the linesize of the graphic, which does change the marker size, but instead of drawing the image larger, it starts to tile it. The graphics are smallish (under 40 pixels in any dimension.) Does the number of points make a difference? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Hi Jacque, It seems that if you fill the Markerfill with your image,this image is transformed into a pattern, that is, repeated in every direction across the graphic and visible only in the markers (what I deduce because they don't look identical to each other, but two contiguous or overlapping markers give a continuous pattern). No problem if you use a plain color instead of your image. An the inner glow gives a decent result. What's boring is to set the points for a 8 x 8 circle... I offer it to you ;-) 2,0,3,0,4,0,5,0,6,1,7,2,7,3,7,4,7,5,6,6,5,7,4,7,3,7,2,7,1,6,0,5,0,4,0,3,0,2,1,1,2,0 - LC is able to read this continuous list if you past it into the marker points field of the inspector. Another possibility is to drop the graphic and use only it's list of points, and to clone your image and set the loc of each clone to the successive points... but it will give more headache if you want to change the scale. Good luck anyway Jacques Le 11 août 2014 à 00:59, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com a écrit : I forgot to mention, I can get something close if I make the markers about half the size of the original images, but I need them to be the same size as the originals. On 8/10/2014, 5:54 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't think it is possible to do what I need, but if anyone has time to tinker, I've put an example stack here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23431607/markerTest.livecode The problem seems to be that the markers are drawn based on each point's position as it would lie on a tiled copy of the original image. Markers are not drawn individually, they are stamped out of the tiled copy in the buffer. I don't see a solution to this. On 8/10/2014, 12:16 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Does anyone know how the engine calculates the size of an image used to draw the markers on a polygon graphic? I have an image that is 8 pixels square but when used as a marker it appears smaller. I've fiddled with the linesize of the graphic, which does change the marker size, but instead of drawing the image larger, it starts to tile it. The graphics are smallish (under 40 pixels in any dimension.) Does the number of points make a difference? ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel:++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Another possibility is to drop the graphic and use only it's list of points, and to clone your image and set the loc of each clone to the successive points... but it will give more headache if you want to change the scale. No, better to keep the graphic (without markers) and to use it's list of points as the locs of the image clones. ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of Lausanne CH 1015 Lausanne please use my private address: 6 route de Burtigny CH-1269 Bassins tel:++ 41 22 366 19 40 mobile: ++ 41 79 757 05 24 E-Mail: jacques.haus...@unil.ch *** ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
Jacque- You may be fighting a losing battle here. According to the docs for markerPattern (aka hilitePattern): The hilitePattern of a graphic, image, player, or EPS object has no effect. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
On 8/10/2014, 9:18 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- You may be fighting a losing battle here. According to the docs for markerPattern (aka hilitePattern): The hilitePattern of a graphic, image, player, or EPS object has no effect. Yeah, but it's a lie. :) It has an effect, it just isn't the one I want. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: Marker image sizes
On 8/10/2014, 7:25 PM, Jacques Hausser wrote: An the inner glow gives a decent result. What's boring is to set the points for a 8 x 8 circle... I offer it to you ;-) 2,0,3,0,4,0,5,0,6,1,7,2,7,3,7,4,7,5,6,6,5,7,4,7,3,7,2,7,1,6,0,5,0,4,0,3,0,2,1,1,2,0 Thank you, I will be able to use this. Bernd sent me a stack in email that does something similar and it works well. How did you get the points for the circle? I have one more to do that is slightly larger (12x12). Another possibility is to drop the graphic and use only it's list of points, and to clone your image and set the loc of each clone to the successive points... but it will give more headache if you want to change the scale. I'd thought of that, but using button icons, but there are too many. The card is already overloaded with objects, and I have thousands of points to plot. I reduced that to 800 graphics, each of which needs a different marker symbol at different times. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Marker image sizes
Does anyone know how the engine calculates the size of an image used to draw the markers on a polygon graphic? I have an image that is 8 pixels square but when used as a marker it appears smaller. I've fiddled with the linesize of the graphic, which does change the marker size, but instead of drawing the image larger, it starts to tile it. The graphics are smallish (under 40 pixels in any dimension.) Does the number of points make a difference? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
