Re: ...for neither - really?
Alejandro- Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 8:15:35 PM, you wrote: Just one thing: How could I stop or pause different sounds using the command Aplay? Kill the process? -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Can you do it for update or write and start it in interactive mode? Should support sending suspend and resume commands. Also makes it easy to keep a list of your running sounds in an array or something making it easy to close process when you wish. To pause, or resume, send a return to the process. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: Alejandro- Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 8:15:35 PM, you wrote: Just one thing: How could I stop or pause different sounds using the command Aplay? Kill the process? -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
My Unknowledge about Linux Shell commands is appalling... :o http://www.tuxradar.com/content/command-line-tricks-smart-geeks Mike Bonner wrote Can you do it for update or write and start it in interactive mode? Should support sending suspend and resume commands. Also makes it easy to keep a list of your running sounds in an array or something making it easy to close process when you wish. To pause, or resume, send a return to the process. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/for-neither-really-tp4681430p4681837.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Now that I am in front of a Linux Computer I confirm that it's possible to play many sounds at the same time, using open process put aplay sample.au into tCommand open process tCommand for neither This command does plays *.wav and *.au Does not works with *.mp3 or *.aiff http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/aplay1.html http://alsa.opensrc.org/Aplay Just one thing: How could I stop or pause different sounds using the command Aplay? Alejandro Tejada wrote Richard Gaskin wrote Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. I am not in front of a Linux computer to test this command, but Could developers play many simultaneous sounds in Linux using aplay and for neither? I remember a Space Invaders Linux clone published by Lestroso of FaSaSoftware that hangs badly while trying to play many sounds at the same time... :( Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/for-neither-really-tp4681430p4681811.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:52 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Adverb or adjective, I will continue to not make you any sandwiches if you add ly. So if I'm reading this correct on my dim lit screen, if I refrain from habitual using words that end in ly, Jacqui will happi send gastronomical pleasing sandwiches, dripping with loving applied condiments, and the crusts careful cut off (to be urgent delivered, I assumed, by swift moving overnight express)? off to church now, to worship prayerful :) -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 27/07/14 19:22, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:52 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Adverb or adjective, I will continue to not make you any sandwiches if you add ly. So if I'm reading this correct on my dim lit screen, if I refrain from habitual using words that end in ly, Jacqui will happi send gastronomical pleasing sandwiches, dripping with loving applied condiments, and the crusts careful cut off (to be urgent delivered, I assumed, by swift moving overnight express)? off to church now, to worship prayerful :) I am a strict adherent of the church of Ly! Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 7/27/2014, 11:22 AM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:52 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Adverb or adjective, I will continue to not make you any sandwiches if you add ly. So if I'm reading this correct on my dim lit screen, if I refrain from habitual using words that end in ly, Jacqui will happi send gastronomical pleasing sandwiches, dripping with loving applied condiments, and the crusts careful cut off (to be urgent delivered, I assumed, by swift moving overnight express)? off to church now, to worship prayerful :) I was wondering when someone would ask what I was talking about. It's a pseudo-inside joke between Monte and me, but If you do ever find out, I will also not make you sandwiches. On second thought, I relent. It has to do with this: http://xkcd.com/149/ Monte and I showed up wearing the same tee shirt at the last Edinburgh conference. So we fed each other sandwiches. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 26/07/14 06:26, Kay C Lan wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Those are adverbs. When Richmond corrects our English I can't help but think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc ___ Thanks for that: it is now on the locked Facebook page for the pupils of my school to watch :) Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 26/07/14 06:45, Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 8:36:17 PM, you wrote: Should I submit a Dictionary bug to have this simpler less silly form documented? Weird... silly is an adjective that ends in ly. I suppose it's in the same boat with jolly, portly, and unseemly. I don't think I would want to be in that boat. You might fell all boatly :) Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Don't read, don't write, don't wait for it. Perhaps for neither could be changed into without waiting. Definitely not asynchronously, because that frightens new users. We should do anything we can to keep the language as accessible as possible. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Installer Maker for LiveCode: http://qery.us/468 Buy my new book Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner http://qery.us/3fi LiveCode on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/runrev/ On 7/25/2014 21:34, Richard Gaskin wrote: Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. When you read the full Dictionary entry for open process it kinda makes sense, but it feels a bit silly to type it. Anyone here think it's worth the dev team's time to propose asynchronously as a synonym for for neither? Better still, anyone here know their way around the code base and care enough about this sort of nit-picking to add that? Is it even worth thinking about? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Richard Gaskin wrote Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. I am not in front of a Linux computer to test this command, but Could developers play many simultaneous sounds in Linux using aplay and for neither? I remember a Space Invaders Linux clone published by Lestroso of FaSaSoftware that hangs badly while trying to play many sounds at the same time... :( Al -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/for-neither-really-tp4681430p4681435.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Sounds good to me Richard although Jacque did get a bee in her bonnet when we started adding adjectives to the language last year (globally, recursively) ;-) Personally I think all IO should at least have an asynchronous option similar to sockets so there should be a `with message` option on everything. Actually I think just about everything that blocks should have that option because blocking is just plain bad for everyone but the absolute newbie. Cheers Monte On 26 Jul 2014, at 5:34 am, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. When you read the full Dictionary entry for open process it kinda makes sense, but it feels a bit silly to type it. Anyone here think it's worth the dev team's time to propose asynchronously as a synonym for for neither? Better still, anyone here know their way around the code base and care enough about this sort of nit-picking to add that? Is it even worth thinking about? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 26/07/14 00:35, Monte Goulding wrote: Sounds good to me Richard although Jacque did get a bee in her bonnet when we started adding adjectives to the language last year (globally, recursively) ;-) Those are adverbs. Richmond. Personally I think all IO should at least have an asynchronous option similar to sockets so there should be a `with message` option on everything. Actually I think just about everything that blocks should have that option because blocking is just plain bad for everyone but the absolute newbie. Cheers Monte On 26 Jul 2014, at 5:34 am, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Monte recently helped me with a shell task by reminding me that I can use this for asynchronously calling another process: open tSomeProcessCommand for neither Useful enough, but the syntax kinda bugs me. When you read the full Dictionary entry for open process it kinda makes sense, but it feels a bit silly to type it. Anyone here think it's worth the dev team's time to propose asynchronously as a synonym for for neither? Better still, anyone here know their way around the code base and care enough about this sort of nit-picking to add that? Is it even worth thinking about? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 26 Jul 2014, at 7:45 am, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Those are adverbs. That's what I meant.. I haven't had a coffee yet ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 7/25/2014, 4:35 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Sounds good to me Richard although Jacque did get a bee in her bonnet when we started adding adjectives to the language last year (globally, recursively) ;-) Adverb or adjective, I will continue to not make you any sandwiches if you add ly. Mark's suggestion of without waiting isn't bad, though knowing Dr Raney, the word neither is probably some kind of 'nixy thing that makes sense in some context. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Well in that case I'd better propose an alternative. Having had some caffeine I am now awake enough to recognize that 'for neither' is completely redundant. Just drop it off and the statement makes perfect sense. Cheers Monte -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 26 Jul 2014, at 10:52 am, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Adverb or adjective, I will continue to not make you any sandwiches if you add ly. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Monte- Friday, July 25, 2014, 6:33:53 PM, you wrote: Well in that case I'd better propose an alternative. Having had some caffeine I am now awake enough to recognize that 'for neither' is completely redundant. Just drop it off and the statement makes perfect sense. Bingo! Caffeine to the rescue. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Monte Goulding wrote: Having had some caffeine I am now awake enough to recognize that 'for neither' is completely redundant. Just drop it off and the statement makes perfect sense. i thought some sort of default came into play without further modifiers, no? What happens now when you call it with no modifiers? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 7:18:12 PM, you wrote: i thought some sort of default came into play without further modifiers, no? What happens now when you call it with no modifiers? I thought Monte was suggesting this as an enhancement? -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: Those are adverbs. When Richmond corrects our English I can't help but think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 7:18:12 PM, you wrote: i thought some sort of default came into play without further modifiers, no? What happens now when you call it with no modifiers? I thought Monte was suggesting this as an enhancement? He was, but as I wrote I thought the reason we had to write the silly-sounding for neither was because with no args it uses some sort of defaults. Well, I just tested it and it seems that the defaults it uses are exactly what's been proposed here. Should I submit a Dictionary bug to have this simpler less silly form documented? And FWIW I only tested with a shell call to aplay - anyone else want to confirm this before I file the report? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Richard- Friday, July 25, 2014, 8:36:17 PM, you wrote: Should I submit a Dictionary bug to have this simpler less silly form documented? Weird... silly is an adjective that ends in ly. I suppose it's in the same boat with jolly, portly, and unseemly. I don't think I would want to be in that boat. -- -Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com This communication may be unlawfully collected and stored by the National Security Agency (NSA) in secret. The parties to this email do not consent to the retrieving or storing of this communication and any related metadata, as well as printing, copying, re-transmitting, disseminating, or otherwise using it. If you believe you have received this communication in error, please delete it immediately. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
On 7/25/2014, 10:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Well, I just tested it and it seems that the defaults it uses are exactly what's been proposed here. Oh, I do so love happy endings. :) And now I don't have to ship Monte a corned beef on rye. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Re: ...for neither - really?
Doesn't have to be that fancy Jacque. I'm happy with PBJ ;-) -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 26 Jul 2014, at 2:09 pm, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: On 7/25/2014, 10:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Well, I just tested it and it seems that the defaults it uses are exactly what's been proposed here. Oh, I do so love happy endings. :) And now I don't have to ship Monte a corned beef on rye. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
