Re: Data Matrix

2010-03-12 Thread Malte Pfaff-Brill
Hi Jérôme,

maybe this one helps:
http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/343/0m3ga-net---QR-Code-Generator-%2B-Library-Stack

All the best,

Malte

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Re: Data Matrix

2010-03-12 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote:
 I am looking for a library for creating a data matrix in Revolution. I did 
 not find an example with Revolution. I found libdmtx, an open source software 
 for reading and writing Data Matrix 2D barcodes on Linux, Unix, OS X, 
 Windows, and mobile devices. But I found only binary for command line tools 
 for windows and I am not qualified to compile the code to create command line 
 tools Mac OS.

 Have you already created a data matrix with Revolution ? Is there a volunteer 
 to create an external/library ?


If you can rely on a web link, you can use Google's API directly.
Here is a script to generate a QR code as an image.

on mouseUp
 put fld Text into tPlain
 put 300 into tWidthHeight
 put http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=qrchs=; 
tWidthHeight  x  tWidthHeight  chl=  tPlain into tURL
 put URL tURL into img QR
end mouseUp

HTH,
Sarah
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Re: cantSelect

2010-03-12 Thread DunbarX
Richard.

Thanks for the info. I worked around it.

The dictionary entry for cantSelect says: When the user clicks the 
control with the Pointer tool, Revolution acts as though it has been clicked 
with 
the Browse tool. 

This is what started me on this. No biggie. But I do agree that the SC 
commands are plain and simple.

Craig
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Data grids don't refresh/redraw when disabled?

2010-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Massung
Just wondering if this was intentional behavior for a reason or not?

Often times I find myself disabling a DG while doing a large operation (like 
downloading a webpage) and then re-enabling it afterwards. If I disable it, 
though, any resizes won't redraw the DG.

Currently my only choice is to overlay a large rectangle on top of the DG that 
the user can't click through and not just disable it.

Anyone have any other suggestions?

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Re: Data grids don't refresh/redraw when disabled?

2010-03-12 Thread Neal Campbell
Could you set a flag when doing your download and which you check in the
mouseUp or mouseDown handler and just toss the event away?


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On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just wondering if this was intentional behavior for a reason or not?

 Often times I find myself disabling a DG while doing a large operation
 (like downloading a webpage) and then re-enabling it afterwards. If I
 disable it, though, any resizes won't redraw the DG.

 Currently my only choice is to overlay a large rectangle on top of the DG
 that the user can't click through and not just disable it.

 Anyone have any other suggestions?

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Re: cantSelect

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard-

Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:21:59 PM, you wrote:

 I much prefer the way SC handles the pointer tool, splitting messages so
 there's a separate suite for when the pointer tool is active:

 'Add pointerDown, pointerUp, pointerDoubleUp, etc. for when pointer tool
 is active'
 http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2606

I read #2606, and it seems to be about catching mouseUp, etc. when you
click on a card in pointer mode. When I've needed to do this I put a
graphic or image at the back of the card and catch mouseUp events
there. Wouldn't that do the trick for you without having to add a new
message to the engine?

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Re: cantSelect

2010-03-12 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mark Wieder wrote:


Richard-

Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:21:59 PM, you wrote:


I much prefer the way SC handles the pointer tool, splitting messages so
there's a separate suite for when the pointer tool is active:



'Add pointerDown, pointerUp, pointerDoubleUp, etc. for when pointer tool
is active'
http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=2606


I read #2606, and it seems to be about catching mouseUp, etc. when you
click on a card in pointer mode. When I've needed to do this I put a
graphic or image at the back of the card and catch mouseUp events
there. Wouldn't that do the trick for you without having to add a new
message to the engine?


Yes, but it won't work out as you might want:

If you're making a drawing app, you'll want to be able to allow the user 
to drag a marquee around objects to select them.


If you add another object in back, that object will be selected instead.

If you turn on that object's cantSelect property, you won't get the 
marquee selection.


Same with responding to drops in your drawing region, and other mouse 
actions in groups.


If you have time on your hands you can write several hundred lines of 
code to emulate the pointer tool using the browse tool.  But 
hand-crafting selection handles and the like is not merely tedious but 
very difficult to do well, and seems a substantial waste of programmer 
hours given that the pointer tool already provides more than 95% of 
what's needed automatically.


If you haven't worked in SuperCard, it may be difficult to fully 
appreciate how simple it can be to make a drawing app.  Sometimes I miss it.


With Rev's new options for making custom controls (behaviors + the 
selectGroupedControls group property - beautiful stuff) the opportunity 
for making some mind-blowingly cool custom drawing environments is wide 
open, far beyond what we used to do in SC.


But to fully exploit this currently requires a rare level of expertise 
with Rev's messaging, a willingness to experiment, and a lot of hard work.


A valuable complement for such work would be to implement tool modes as 
a group-specific property:

http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=623

SC has window-specific tool modes which is nice, but with Rev's more 
flexible groups it would make more sense, and be far more useful, to 
have tool modes specific to the group level.  That would allow us to 
have some nice single-window UIs with a toolbar, tools panel, and 
scrollable drawing region.


You can kinda do that now with careful use of cantSelect, but it's 
really a lot of work and not without complication.


And regardless of the scope of tool modes, we still need mouse messages 
to be sent to the card when the pointer tool is selected as they are 
when the browse tool is selected.  If the backward-compatibility issues 
for doing so with mouseDown, mouseUp, etc. are too much then 
pointerDown, pointerUp, etc. can be considered.


But whatever the means, messages are the lifeblood of interaction.  When 
we don't get them the blood stops flowing.


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Re: cantSelect

2010-03-12 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I agree with Richard in spirit. But my pet peeve is the lack of mouse messages 
and properties that are sent or set when the mouse is down (like for example 
mouseLoc). especially for games, educational apps and graphing, this would be 
similarly important.

On 12 Mar 2010, at 17:35, Richard Gaskin wrote:

 If you have time on your hands you can write several hundred lines of code to 
 emulate the pointer tool using the browse tool. But hand-crafting selection 
 handles and the like is not merely tedious but very difficult to do well, and 
 seems a substantial waste of programmer hours given that the pointer tool 
 already provides more than 95% of what's needed automatically.



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Substacks Editing and Visibility

2010-03-12 Thread Len Morgan
I was trying to update a stack I wrote a couple of years ago (in my 
revAdolescence stage) and moved what had been several separate stacks 
into substacks of the main stack.


One of those stacks was a debug stack that I can use to send logging 
information as the program runs.  It is marked as visible but ever since 
moving it into the mainstack, I can't see it anymore.  It is there 
because using tRev, I can get a snapshot of the stack and it indeed has 
the information I've been writing to it there.


So my first question is: Can you have a separate window  composed of a 
substack of the main window/stack, or are will I have to pull this out 
as a separate stack file in order to see it?  The location looks ok and 
as I said, the visible property is true.


My second question has to do with editing substacks.  CAN I edit a 
substack or do I have to pull it out, edit it, and then put it back as a 
substack of the main stack?


What I'm after in the end is a single (or as close as I can get to it) 
stack for updating.


Thanks,

len morgan
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Re: Data grids don't refresh/redraw when disabled?

2010-03-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
Isn't there a command to refresh the data grid? Seems like you could just call 
that when you are finished doing whatever you are doing. 

Bob


On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Jeffrey Massung wrote:

 Just wondering if this was intentional behavior for a reason or not?
 
 Often times I find myself disabling a DG while doing a large operation (like 
 downloading a webpage) and then re-enabling it afterwards. If I disable it, 
 though, any resizes won't redraw the DG.
 
 Currently my only choice is to overlay a large rectangle on top of the DG 
 that the user can't click through and not just disable it.
 
 Anyone have any other suggestions?
 
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Re: Substacks Editing and Visibility

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Len-

Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:41:42 AM, you wrote:

 So my first question is: Can you have a separate window  composed of a
 substack of the main window/stack, or are will I have to pull this out
 as a separate stack file in order to see it?  The location looks ok and
 as I said, the visible property is true.

go stack subStackName should do the trick, if I understand the
problem correctly.

 My second question has to do with editing substacks.  CAN I edit a 
 substack or do I have to pull it out, edit it, and then put it back as a
 substack of the main stack?

Editing substacks shouldn't be a problem. Are you saying you're unable
to do this or haven't you tried it yet?

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Re: Substacks Editing and Visibility

2010-03-12 Thread Len Morgan

On 3/12/2010 11:50 AM, Mark Wieder wrote:

Len-

Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:41:42 AM, you wrote:

   

So my first question is: Can you have a separate window  composed of a
substack of the main window/stack, or are will I have to pull this out
as a separate stack file in order to see it?  The location looks ok and
as I said, the visible property is true.
 

go stacksubStackName  should do the trick, if I understand the
problem correctly.

   
That worked but I don't understand why.  I'd like to have that stack 
just lurking around or minimized so I can bring it up when I want to 
look at it.  Clicking back on my original stack seems to leave both 
there and operational.  I'm just curious what go stack xxx does that 
makes it pop up when I've already start(ed) using stack xxx

My second question has to do with editing substacks.  CAN I edit a
substack or do I have to pull it out, edit it, and then put it back as a
substack of the main stack?
 

Editing substacks shouldn't be a problem. Are you saying you're unable
to do this or haven't you tried it yet?

   
I haven't tried yet but I remember something on the list about editing 
substacks.  It could have been that someone had both a substack and a 
real stack by the same name in the same folder and they we'ren't 
seeing the changes in the substack because they were editing the real 
stack.  I'm sure this will probably work though.


len
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Re: Substacks Editing and Visibility

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Wieder
Len-

Friday, March 12, 2010, 10:01:08 AM, you wrote:

 That worked but I don't understand why.  I'd like to have that stack
 just lurking around or minimized so I can bring it up when I want to
 look at it.  Clicking back on my original stack seems to leave both 
 there and operational.  I'm just curious what go stack xxx does that
 makes it pop up when I've already start(ed) using stack xxx

Start using adds the script to the existing library stacks in
memory. Go makes the target stack the default stack and shows it on
the screen (assuming it's visible). You've got a few options for
opening it in lurk mode: you could go invisible and just show the
stack when you want to; you could set the loc of the substack to
somewhere off-screen and bring it back when you wanted to show it, you
could just go to it when you wanted it on screen (no need to go at
any time before that), etc.

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Re: Substacks Editing and Visibility

2010-03-12 Thread Richmond Mathewson

 snip

I haven't tried yet but I remember something on the list about editing 
substacks.  It could have been that someone had both a substack and a 
real stack by the same name in the same folder and they we'ren't 
seeing the changes in the substack because they were editing the real 
stack.  I'm sure this will probably work though.


It is fairly daft to have a substack with the same name as the 
mainstack: things are bound to get

confused sooner rather than later.

If it is important that the mainstack and the substack have the same 
thing written in their title

bars then give them different names but make sure their titles are the same.

After all if one has 2 stacks with the same name (whether 2 mainstacks, 
2 substacks or ... ), for instance

called SAMENAME, and you execute something like this:

set the backgroundColor of stack SAMENAME to pink

all sorts of things could ensue . . .   :)

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Rosetta (system performance hit?)

2010-03-12 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Is there one?  Just having it installed?

Randall
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Re: Rosetta (system performance hit?)

2010-03-12 Thread Jeff Massung
My understanding is that Rosetta is just a PPC (and OS 9) emulator... and a
very good one, too. Having it installed (and no OS 9 apps running) is no
more a performance hit than having Parallels or VMware Fusion installed and
not running.

Jeff M.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Randall Lee Reetz 
rand...@randallreetz.com wrote:

 Is there one?  Just having it installed?

 Randall
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cloning a stack without it poping on screen

2010-03-12 Thread Andre Garzia
Hello Folks,

Do anyone here knows if there's a way to use a command to clone a stack
without making it appear on screen. It appears that the clone command makes
it appears at the screenloc. I've moved the parent/source stack off screen
and tried cloning but no luck, it still poped in the middle of the screen.
The fact is that I want to clone a stack, add some controls to it, position
it and then, show it, right now what happens is that the clone command put
an empty stack on the screen and then all of a sudden it moves to it's new
place with its controls added.

any clue?

Cheers
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Row count in datagrid

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Adams
Simple question.  How do I determine the row count in a datagrid?  I¹ve
searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it.

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Re: cloning a stack without it poping on screen

2010-03-12 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/3/12 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com:
 Hello Folks,

 Do anyone here knows if there's a way to use a command to clone a stack
 without making it appear on screen. It appears that the clone command makes
 it appears at the screenloc. I've moved the parent/source stack off screen
 and tried cloning but no luck, it still poped in the middle of the screen.
 The fact is that I want to clone a stack, add some controls to it, position
 it and then, show it, right now what happens is that the clone command put
 an empty stack on the screen and then all of a sudden it moves to it's new
 place with its controls added.

 any clue?

 Cheers
 andre


Hello Andre,

Have you try to clone your stack with the:

clone invisible stack myStack

form ?



Regards,


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Re: Row count in datagrid

2010-03-12 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/3/12 Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com:
 Simple question.  How do I determine the row count in a datagrid?  I¹ve
 searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it.

 Thanks,
 --
 Alex Adams


Hi Alex,

Have you tried :

put the number of lines of the dgProp[columns] of group myDataGrid

Note : The columns property return a line delimited list of columns in
your grid.



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Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Any thoughts on how I can track down what is preventing my menu buttons from
firing when triggered from the keyboard?

I've been trying to workaround the issue of how menus are drawn when the
menu buttons that display menus are colorized.  I tried adding some proxy
buttons to trigger the menu buttons which sort of works, but somewhere along
the way I lost keyboard triggering of the original menu buttons.

Possibly related:  I created a new test stack and used the Menu Builder to
add a standard menubar.  I noticed that the buttons in the default menu
display their keyboard control equivalents, whereas the buttons in my stack
do not.  I can't remember, is there a property/setting that enables this?

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Row count in datagrid

2010-03-12 Thread zryip theSlug
2010/3/12 zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com:
 2010/3/12 Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com:
 Simple question.  How do I determine the row count in a datagrid?  I¹ve
 searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it.

 Thanks,
 --
 Alex Adams


 Hi Alex,

 Have you tried :

 put the number of lines of the dgProp[columns] of group myDataGrid

 Note : The columns property return a line delimited list of columns in
 your grid.

Why I have read columns ??

For row, have you tried the dgNumberOfLines property?


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Re: Row count in datagrid

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Adams
put the dgNumberOfLines of group dgConnectedList of card
crdConnectedList of stack stkConnections into rowCount
Always equates to 0

What am I doing wrong?
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 From: zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:49 +0100
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Row count in datagrid
 
 2010/3/12 zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com:
 2010/3/12 Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com:
 Simple question.  How do I determine the row count in a datagrid?  I¹ve
 searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it.
 
 Thanks,
 --
 Alex Adams
 
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Have you tried :
 
 put the number of lines of the dgProp[columns] of group myDataGrid
 
 Note : The columns property return a line delimited list of columns in
 your grid.
 
 Why I have read columns ??
 
 For row, have you tried the dgNumberOfLines property?
 
 
 Regards,
 -- 
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 http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc
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Re: Row count in datagrid

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Adams
My mistake.  Once I rebuilt the list, it worked fine.

Thanks,
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 From: Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com
 Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:18:01 -0800
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Row count in datagrid
 
 put the dgNumberOfLines of group dgConnectedList of card
 crdConnectedList of stack stkConnections into rowCount
 Always equates to 0
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 -- 
 Alex Adams
 
 hawkVision ‹ tools for solving Wicked Problems
 
 (a)2 Technology Partners, Inc.
 831-726-8013
 a...@a2tecnology.com
 hawkVisionInfo.wordpress.com
 universalConnector.wordpress.com
 
 
 From: zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:49 +0100
 To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
 Subject: Re: Row count in datagrid
 
 2010/3/12 zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.com:
 2010/3/12 Alex Adams a...@a2technology.com:
 Simple question.  How do I determine the row count in a datagrid?  I¹ve
 searched through the manual, but I can¹t find it.
 
 Thanks,
 --
 Alex Adams
 
 
 Hi Alex,
 
 Have you tried :
 
 put the number of lines of the dgProp[columns] of group myDataGrid
 
 Note : The columns property return a line delimited list of columns in
 your grid.
 
 Why I have read columns ??
 
 For row, have you tried the dgNumberOfLines property?
 
 
 Regards,
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Re: cloning a stack without it poping on screen

2010-03-12 Thread Andre Garzia
:-O does that exist??? :-O

it is not on the docs...

actually there's a user comment saying that... wonderful!!!

Thanks!


On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:28 PM, zryip theSlug zryip.thes...@gmail.comwrote:

 2010/3/12 Andre Garzia an...@andregarzia.com:
  Hello Folks,
 
  Do anyone here knows if there's a way to use a command to clone a stack
  without making it appear on screen. It appears that the clone command
 makes
  it appears at the screenloc. I've moved the parent/source stack off
 screen
  and tried cloning but no luck, it still poped in the middle of the
 screen.
  The fact is that I want to clone a stack, add some controls to it,
 position
  it and then, show it, right now what happens is that the clone command
 put
  an empty stack on the screen and then all of a sudden it moves to it's
 new
  place with its controls added.
 
  any clue?
 
  Cheers
  andre
 

 Hello Andre,

 Have you try to clone your stack with the:

 clone invisible stack myStack

 form ?



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Re: Data Matrix

2010-03-12 Thread Jérôme Rosat
Hi Malte,

Thank you for the link. It is not a data matrix but it helps.

Jerome

Le 12 mars 2010 à 09:06, Malte Pfaff-Brill a écrit :

 Hi Jérôme,
 
 maybe this one helps:
 http://revonline2.runrev.com/stack/343/0m3ga-net---QR-Code-Generator-%2B-Library-Stack
 
 All the best,
 
 Malte
 
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Re: Data Matrix

2010-03-12 Thread Jérôme Rosat
Hi Sarah,

Thank you for the script. I did not know the Google's API.

I will try to use QR code instead of data matrix in my project.

Jerome

Le 12 mars 2010 à 10:12, Sarah Reichelt a écrit :

 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Jérôme Rosat jro...@mac.com wrote:
 I am looking for a library for creating a data matrix in Revolution. I did 
 not find an example with Revolution. I found libdmtx, an open source 
 software for reading and writing Data Matrix 2D barcodes on Linux, Unix, OS 
 X, Windows, and mobile devices. But I found only binary for command line 
 tools for windows and I am not qualified to compile the code to create 
 command line tools Mac OS.
 
 Have you already created a data matrix with Revolution ? Is there a 
 volunteer to create an external/library ?
 
 
 If you can rely on a web link, you can use Google's API directly.
 Here is a script to generate a QR code as an image.
 
 on mouseUp
 put fld Text into tPlain
 put 300 into tWidthHeight
 put http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=qrchs=; 
 tWidthHeight  x  tWidthHeight  chl=  tPlain into tURL
 put URL tURL into img QR
 end mouseUp
 
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Quartam Reports Image Path

2010-03-12 Thread Alex Adams
I am including an icon in each Quartam report that I am building.  The image
path stored in the report files are literal.  How do I store a relative
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Was: how to preserve character set encoding when creating a text file? Is: Czechmate: [OT] need to hire Rev programmer

2010-03-12 Thread Josh Mellicker
We need to hire a Rev programmer who is expert at international character set 
encoding, has a Windows XP system, and who can solve the following problem:


 In Czechoslovakia, the Application Data folder on Windows XP is called 
 Data aplikací. So, when we get specialfolderpath(26) on Windows, the path 
 looks something like this:
 
 C:/Documents and Settings/Username/Data aplikací/OurFolder/
 
 In Rev, all works fine.
 
 But when we create a (regular or binary) text file from a Windows standalone:
 
   put tBatchCommands into URL (binfile:  theBatchFileLoc())
 
 the Czech character in the text file is transformed into this:
 
C:/Documents and Settings/Username/Data aplikacÌ/OurFolder/
 
 (You can see the last character in Data aplikacÌ has changed)
 
 When telling cURL to execute this batch file, obviously it cannot find the 
 path and an error results.
 
 This has only been a problem for Czechoslovakian customers, I think because 
 in most other countries, the translation of Application Data doesn't 
 contain any double-byte characters, and mostly with Windows XP (since in 
 Vista, the folder is called AppData in Czech and English).
 
 Obviously we are messing up the character encoding when we write the text 
 file and the character is changed.
 
 Again, just to be clear: This is NOT a problem WITHIN Revolution, ONLY when 
 writing a text file using the command above.


If you know how to write a text file on Windows that preserves international 
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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Scott Rossi wrote:

Any thoughts on how I can track down what is preventing my menu buttons from
firing when triggered from the keyboard?

I've been trying to workaround the issue of how menus are drawn when the
menu buttons that display menus are colorized.  I tried adding some proxy
buttons to trigger the menu buttons which sort of works, but somewhere along
the way I lost keyboard triggering of the original menu buttons.

Possibly related:  I created a new test stack and used the Menu Builder to
add a standard menubar.  I noticed that the buttons in the default menu
display their keyboard control equivalents, whereas the buttons in my stack
do not.  I can't remember, is there a property/setting that enables this?


There's accelKey and accelMods. Menu buttons have some specific 
properties that have to be set too, so compare yours with the ones 
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Czechmate: [OT] need to hire Rev programmer Was: how to preserve character set encoding when creating a text file?

2010-03-12 Thread Josh Mellicker
Sorry for the repeated post, my subject line was backwards before.

We need to hire a Rev programmer who is expert at international character set 
encoding, has a Windows XP system, and who can solve the following problem:


 In Czechoslovakia, the Application Data folder on Windows XP is called 
 Data aplikací. So, when we get specialfolderpath(26) on Windows, the path 
 looks something like this:
 
 C:/Documents and Settings/Username/Data aplikací/OurFolder/
 
 In Rev, all works fine.
 
 But when we create a (regular or binary) text file from a Windows standalone:
 
  put tBatchCommands into URL (binfile:  theBatchFileLoc())
 
 the Czech character in the text file is transformed into this:
 
   C:/Documents and Settings/Username/Data aplikacÌ/OurFolder/
 
 (You can see the last character in Data aplikacÌ has changed)
 
 When telling cURL to execute this batch file, obviously it cannot find the 
 path and an error results.
 
 This has only been a problem for Czechoslovakian customers, I think because 
 in most other countries, the translation of Application Data doesn't 
 contain any double-byte characters, though it has been a problem with some 
 user accounts with accented characters
 
 Obviously we are messing up the character encoding when we write the text 
 file and the character is changed.
 
 Again, just to be clear: This is NOT a problem WITHIN Revolution, ONLY when 
 writing a text file using the command above.


If you know how to write a text file on Windows that preserves international 
character sets, and are available and interested, please reply off-list.

Thanks!







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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

J. Landman Gay wrote:

Scott Rossi wrote:
Any thoughts on how I can track down what is preventing my menu 
buttons from

firing when triggered from the keyboard?

I've been trying to workaround the issue of how menus are drawn when the
menu buttons that display menus are colorized.  I tried adding some proxy
buttons to trigger the menu buttons which sort of works, but somewhere 
along

the way I lost keyboard triggering of the original menu buttons.

Possibly related:  I created a new test stack and used the Menu 
Builder to

add a standard menubar.  I noticed that the buttons in the default menu
display their keyboard control equivalents, whereas the buttons in my 
stack

do not.  I can't remember, is there a property/setting that enables this?


There's accelKey and accelMods. Menu buttons have some specific 
properties that have to be set too, so compare yours with the ones 
created by the menu builder.




I should have added that you don't actually need to use these commands 
most of the time. You can indicate the keyboard shortcuts by adding 
symbols to the button contents on each line that requires one. As of 4.0 
you can find the updated syntax in the engine change log that lets you 
add keyboard shortcuts comprised of more than one modifier key. If you 
only need one modifer per menu item, you can just use the old way: put a 
slash and a letter after the menu item. For example, if you want the 
Copy item to use Cmd-C, its line in the button contents would be:


  Copy/C

Adding an ampersand after one of the letters will cause it to draw with 
an underline on Windows menus, so Copy would look like this if you want 
both the old-style underline and the command key shortcut:


  Copy/C

The menu builder can add accelerators and modifiers via its interface 
checkboxes. If you do that and then look at the button contents, it's 
easy to see how it works.


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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote:

 Possibly related:  I created a new test stack and used the Menu Builder to
 add a standard menubar.  I noticed that the buttons in the default menu
 display their keyboard control equivalents, whereas the buttons in my stack
 do not.  I can't remember, is there a property/setting that enables this?
 
 There's accelKey and accelMods. Menu buttons have some specific
 properties that have to be set too, so compare yours with the ones
 created by the menu builder.

Thanks.  I've been comparing for th last hour and can't see what's
different.  I've tried the above on the simple default menu created by the
Menu Builder tool -- select the menubutton and in the message box put the
accelKey of the selObj -- and I get nothing.  Same with accelMods.
Shouldn't I get a value in the message box?

Regards,

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Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote:

 You can indicate the keyboard shortcuts by adding
 symbols to the button contents on each line that requires one. As of 4.0
 you can find the updated syntax in the engine change log that lets you
 add keyboard shortcuts comprised of more than one modifier key. If you
 only need one modifer per menu item, you can just use the old way: put a
 slash and a letter after the menu item. For example, if you want the
 Copy item to use Cmd-C, its line in the button contents would be:
 
Copy/C
 
 Adding an ampersand after one of the letters will cause it to draw with
 an underline on Windows menus, so Copy would look like this if you want
 both the old-style underline and the command key shortcut:
 
Copy/C
 
 The menu builder can add accelerators and modifiers via its interface
 checkboxes. If you do that and then look at the button contents, it's
 easy to see how it works.

Thanks, I have all this, but the menus aren't triggering, that's what's so
frustrating.  In the test stack, the menus trigger from the keyboard
shortcuts as expected.  In my working stack, the menubuttons refuse to
trigger.

Here's another symptom...  When the test stack is suspended (my working
stack is the top stack) the keyboard shortcuts continue to trigger the menus
in the test stack.

My working stack has a custom windowShape -- could that be an issue?  It
hasn't been up until my messing around with the menu buttons, but this test
with menus firing in the suspended stack makes me suspicious.

Thanks  Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, I wrote:

 Any thoughts on how I can track down what is preventing my menu buttons from
 firing when triggered from the keyboard?

On windows...  I just discovered that the menubar property of my working
stack was somehow set to empty, even though the menu was present and set up
right.  I'm thinking maybe this was the problem.  Thanks for your responses
Jacque -- you helped me consider other issues to track down.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
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Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread mstrayer1
Hello all, 
I'm new to revolution and have run into a problem. 
I've made a simple little standalone application 
(4 text fields, 1 label, 1 button). Right now all that 
it does it that when the button is pressed it place the 
contents of one of the fields into the label. The 
system that this is being run on is Windows7 64bit 
+ Norton Internet Security, both with latest updates. 


The first time I tried run the standalone I was rewarded 
with multiple messages for NIS stating that the application 
was behaving suspiciously . I told NIS to allow the application 
to continue running and everything works fine. 


Of course this presents major heartburn for any distribution 
of the find product since most end users won't be thrilled by 
a bunch of NIS warnings, I know I wouldn't. 


So, the question is, has anyone else run into this and what 
can I do to stop it. 


Thanks 
Mike Strayer 





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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Scott Rossi wrote:

Recently, I wrote:


Any thoughts on how I can track down what is preventing my menu buttons from
firing when triggered from the keyboard?


On windows...  I just discovered that the menubar property of my working
stack was somehow set to empty, even though the menu was present and set up
right.  I'm thinking maybe this was the problem.  Thanks for your responses
Jacque -- you helped me consider other issues to track down.


Yeah, that would do it. Re-reading the docs about accelKey and 
accelMods, it looks like that's only for regular card buttons, not menu 
buttons. I've never used those settings because they didn't used to work 
cross-platform, but now I see the docs say they do. If so, that's 
another change I didn't notice. I'm still recovering from the lock 
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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Massung
Just noting that 2 of my apps are running on Windows XP  Vista machines 
without this issue at all (this includes machines with either Norton or McAfee).

That said, if you figure out what's causing it and how to stop it, I'd very 
much like to know so I can watch for it with my future releases.

Jeff M.

On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:22 PM, mstray...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 The first time I tried run the standalone I was rewarded 
 with multiple messages for NIS stating that the application 
 was behaving suspiciously . I told NIS to allow the application 
 to continue running and everything works fine. 

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Re: Data grids don't refresh/redraw when disabled?

2010-03-12 Thread Trevor DeVore

On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:40 AM, Jeffrey Massung wrote:


Just wondering if this was intentional behavior for a reason or not?

Often times I find myself disabling a DG while doing a large  
operation (like downloading a webpage) and then re-enabling it  
afterwards. If I disable it, though, any resizes won't redraw the DG.


I did a quick test and it appears that the Rev engine does not send  
the resizeControl message to the data grid when it is disabled. I'm  
asking around to see if this is intentional or not (I don't think it  
is correct behavior) but the workaround is to do the following after  
resizing the data grid if your data grid is disabled:


dispatch resizeControl to group DataGrid

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DataGrid AddData issue

2010-03-12 Thread Jeffrey Massung
So, I'm not quite sure the best way around this problem, hoping Trevor or 
someone here can help...

It looks like AddData doesn't instantly add the data to a DG form (haven't 
tried a table). So, for example, if I were to do the following:

## inside the DG group control

on doSomething
-- .. construct some data ..

addData tData

get the dgNumberOfLines of me
get the dgDataControlOfIndex[it] of me

-- .. do something with the data control ..


The problem here is that the data control I get back is not of the row I just 
added, but rather the row previous to it. This is really problematic as I'd 
like to call a handler on that control, but only when it's created. I also 
can't wait a little bit of time because several rows may be added in between.

My best work-around thought for now is to have a flag in tData that is set to 
true so that FillInData can check it and call the appropriate handler and set 
it to false, but that's pretty hacky and I'd prefer being able to do it some 
other way.

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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

mstray...@comcast.net wrote:
Hello all, 
I'm new to revolution and have run into a problem. 
I've made a simple little standalone application 
(4 text fields, 1 label, 1 button). Right now all that 
it does it that when the button is pressed it place the 
contents of one of the fields into the label. The 
system that this is being run on is Windows7 64bit 
+ Norton Internet Security, both with latest updates. 



The first time I tried run the standalone I was rewarded 
with multiple messages for NIS stating that the application 
was behaving suspiciously . I told NIS to allow the application 
to continue running and everything works fine. 



Of course this presents major heartburn for any distribution 
of the find product since most end users won't be thrilled by 
a bunch of NIS warnings, I know I wouldn't. 



So, the question is, has anyone else run into this and what 
can I do to stop it. 


Oh yes. One of my clients had all kinds of problems with their app 
because Norton's kept flagging it. There may be a way to get Norton's to 
whitelist your app if you contact them. In our case, we had to omit a 
feature that used an external, which solved it. But your app doesn't use 
an external and is pretty self-contained, so it sounds like Norton's has 
upped the ante lately.


Norton's may honor a manifest if it is built into your app, but I'm not 
sure.


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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Vlahos

I just ran into this today with Vista.

However, it was even worse than what you describe. Norton flagged it  
as behaving suspiciously and DELETED the standalone!


No option to even allow it.

Bill Vlahos



On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:22 PM, mstray...@comcast.net wrote:


Hello all,
I'm new to revolution and have run into a problem.
I've made a simple little standalone application
(4 text fields, 1 label, 1 button). Right now all that
it does it that when the button is pressed it place the
contents of one of the fields into the label. The
system that this is being run on is Windows7 64bit
+ Norton Internet Security, both with latest updates.


The first time I tried run the standalone I was rewarded
with multiple messages for NIS stating that the application
was behaving suspiciously . I told NIS to allow the application
to continue running and everything works fine.


Of course this presents major heartburn for any distribution
of the find product since most end users won't be thrilled by
a bunch of NIS warnings, I know I wouldn't.


So, the question is, has anyone else run into this and what
can I do to stop it.


Thanks
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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
I'm sure glad I don't use Norton; haven't since it slowed my Mac to a crawl 
some 20 years ago.

Joe Lewis Wilkins



On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

 I just ran into this today with Vista.
 
 However, it was even worse than what you describe. Norton flagged it as 
 behaving suspiciously and DELETED the standalone!
 
 No option to even allow it.
 
 Bill Vlahos
 
 
 
 On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:22 PM, mstray...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm new to revolution and have run into a problem.
 I've made a simple little standalone application
 (4 text fields, 1 label, 1 button). Right now all that
 it does it that when the button is pressed it place the
 contents of one of the fields into the label. The
 system that this is being run on is Windows7 64bit
 + Norton Internet Security, both with latest updates.
 
 
 The first time I tried run the standalone I was rewarded
 with multiple messages for NIS stating that the application
 was behaving suspiciously . I told NIS to allow the application
 to continue running and everything works fine.
 
 
 Of course this presents major heartburn for any distribution
 of the find product since most end users won't be thrilled by
 a bunch of NIS warnings, I know I wouldn't.
 
 
 So, the question is, has anyone else run into this and what
 can I do to stop it.
 
 
 Thanks
 Mike Strayer
 

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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread Mark Swindell
Das ist creepy.

Mark

On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Bill Vlahos wrote:

 I just ran into this today with Vista.
 
 However, it was even worse than what you describe. Norton flagged it as 
 behaving suspiciously and DELETED the standalone!
 
 No option to even allow it.
 
 Bill Vlahos
 
 
 
 On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:22 PM, mstray...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I'm new to revolution and have run into a problem.
 I've made a simple little standalone application
 (4 text fields, 1 label, 1 button). Right now all that
 it does it that when the button is pressed it place the
 contents of one of the fields into the label. The
 system that this is being run on is Windows7 64bit
 + Norton Internet Security, both with latest updates.
 
 
 The first time I tried run the standalone I was rewarded
 with multiple messages for NIS stating that the application
 was behaving suspiciously . I told NIS to allow the application
 to continue running and everything works fine.
 
 
 Of course this presents major heartburn for any distribution
 of the find product since most end users won't be thrilled by
 a bunch of NIS warnings, I know I wouldn't.
 
 
 So, the question is, has anyone else run into this and what
 can I do to stop it.
 
 
 Thanks
 Mike Strayer
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Rosetta (system performance hit?)

2010-03-12 Thread Randall Reetz
Does anyone know the answer to this system performance hit (running rosetta)?
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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread J. Landman Gay

Bill Vlahos wrote:

I just ran into this today with Vista.

However, it was even worse than what you describe. Norton flagged it as 
behaving suspiciously and DELETED the standalone!


No option to even allow it.


It didn't quarantine it somewhere?

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Re: Regular expression

2010-03-12 Thread Ken Ray
 on mouseUp
local mySource,myStart,myEnd,TESTO,myStart2,myEnd2
put xx src='HTTPWEB' width='3845' height='334' src='HTTPWEB' x
 into TESTO
put empty into mySource
put empty into myStart
put empty into myEnd
put matchChunk(TESTO,src='([^']*)',myStart,myEnd,myStart2,myEnd2)
put myStart  comma  myEnd  comma   myStart2  comma  myEnd2
 end mouseUp
 
 This script returns 13,19,, .
  I exprected something like 13,19,57,63 , because now I have two strings
 matching src='([^']*)' .

Sorry, Paolo, that's not how matchChunk works. You only get a single match
on a given capture region (what's inside the parentheses). Normally this
match is greedy - that is, it will give you the *largest* match it can in
the string you're evaluating. You can modify that by providing the ? and
turn it non-greedy, which will give you the *shortest* match.

So with a string of:

The hot dog in the hotel was hotter than usual.

get matchText(tString,(h.*t),tMatch)
put tMatch
-- he hot dog in the hotel was hotter t

get matchText(tString,(h.*?t),tMatch)
put tMatch
-- he hot

get matchChunk(tString,(hot),tStart,tEnd)
put tStart,tEnd
-- 5,7

Of course, you can provide multiple capture regions if you know how many
regions there will be in the string, but note that the greediness applies
here too, so watch when you use ? and when you don't:

get matchChunk(tString,(hot).*(hot),tStart,tEnd,tStart2,tEnd2)
put tStart,tEnd,tStart2,tEnd2
-- 5,7,30,32  -- matched first hot, and hot in hotter

get matchChunk(tString,(hot).*?(hot),tStart,tEnd,tStart2,tEnd2)
put tStart,tEnd,tStart2,tEnd2
-- 5,7,20,22  -- matched first hot, and hot in hotel

If you don't know the number of possible capture regions, you'll have to use
a repeat loop and limit the string by deleting up to what has matched the
last time for each iteration:

on mouseUp
  put The hot dog in the hotel was hotter than usual. into tString
  put  into tMatches
  put 0 into tAdder
  repeat
if matchChunk(tString,(hot),tStart,tEnd) then
  put (tStart + tAdder)  ,  (tEnd + tAdder)  cr after tMatches
  add tEnd to tAdder
  delete char 1 to tEnd of tString
else
  exit repeat
end if
  end repeat
  put tMatches
end mouseUp

-- 5,7
  20,22
  30,32

Anyway, you get the idea...


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread Ken Ray

 Any thoughts on how I can track down what is preventing my menu buttons
 from firing when triggered from the keyboard?

One thing that Richard told me that I didn't know was that the
defaultMenuBar actually works on Windows... not the same as on Mac, but it
solved a similar problem I had: my app had a toplevel stack and a palette -
the user would click on the palette to change a property and then the next
time they hit a keystroke to trigger a menu in the menubar on my toplevel
stack, it didn't trigger.

As it turns out, if you set the defaultMenuBar to the menubar of your
topStack, it will be the recipient of all menu key accelerators, regardless
of whether someone clicks on a non-toplevel stack or not.

So my suggestion would be to check if the defaultMenubar is being set, and
if not, to try setting it...

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software, Inc.
Email: k...@sonsothunder.com
Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/


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Re: Sticky Popup? -- SOLVED

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, I wrote:

 Is there any way to make the action of popping up a menu sticky?

Background: I was trying to get a menubar with a custom appearance (black
menubar, white button text) to work on Windows Vista and XP.  The problem
was, colorizing the menu buttons on XP winds up colorizing the text of the
menu (white text on a white background is fairly difficult to read), while
on Vista I found it virtually impossible to change the appearance of the
menu at all (it takes on the default appearance of the OS).

I tried using proxy buttons to display the menus of the real buttons, but in
doing so pulldown menus are no longer sticky, and when menus are popped,
their command-key equivalents are not displayed. Setting the menubar of the
stack to empty allowed customizing of the menubar itself, but then the
menubar lost its standard behavior and refused to respond to keyboard
shortcuts.

The solution I found was to set the ink of the default menubar to noop and
place a dummy menubar of my design *behind* the real menubar.  Even though
the real menubar is invisible, it responds to clicks and its pulldown menus
display properly, with their stickiness intact, so one gets the illusion
of clicking on the custom menubar.

Not sure if this is the best way to pull off custom menus, but it seems to
work fine here (and maybe this will save someone some hairpulling).

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Keyboard Menu Control Blocked?

2010-03-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Ken Ray wrote:

 As it turns out, if you set the defaultMenuBar to the menubar of your
 topStack, it will be the recipient of all menu key accelerators, regardless
 of whether someone clicks on a non-toplevel stack or not.

Good to know Ken.  It turns out this wasn't the issue in my case, but still
useful to know.  I have some toplevel/palette stack arrangements that this
will probably affect.

Best Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: Rosetta (system performance hit?)

2010-03-12 Thread René Micout
Hello,

In french : http://www.apple.com/fr/rosetta/
In English : http://www.apple.com/rosetta/ :
Here are all the instructions you’ll need: double-click the application icon. 
Behind the scenes, Rosetta dynamically translates most of your PowerPC-based 
applications to work with your Intel-based Mac. There’s no emulation. No 
second-class status. It looks and feels just like it did before. On a Mac, 
you’d expect nothing less.

Bons souvenirs de Paris
René

Le 13 mars 2010 à 07:43, Randall Reetz a écrit :

 Does anyone know the answer to this system performance hit (running rosetta)?
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Re: Revolution Standalone + Norton Internet Security

2010-03-12 Thread Bill Vlahos
It didn't say it would and I didn't get any message about quarantine.  
It certainly removed it from the file structure where is was.


I opened a ticket at Norton and requested they whitelist my app and  
look into why Revolution programs are getting flagged. Unfortunately  
they say it will take 4 to 6 weeks to resolve.


Bill

On Mar 12, 2010, at 10:56 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:


Bill Vlahos wrote:

I just ran into this today with Vista.
However, it was even worse than what you describe. Norton flagged  
it as behaving suspiciously and DELETED the standalone!

No option to even allow it.


It didn't quarantine it somewhere?

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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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