AW: Problems building my standalone
Thank you Jacqueline and Lynn for your advices, I also have the feeling that the Valentina problem is a following error of the other one. I have to dig deeper into that. Thanks for making your thoughts Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von J. Landman Gay Gesendet: Montag, 26. April 2010 22:07 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: Problems building my standalone Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I wanted to create a new version of my prog, with minor changes. Creating the standalones for win and Mac, everything worked fine. The Win standalone runs fine, but the Mac standalone hangs at a call of a handler of a substack (after start using.). Because this substack is a third party password protected stack, I can't debug it. This can happen if there is an error in the library and so the script aborts. Have you contacted the third-party vendor? That is what I'd do next. Does the runrev licence expire in any kind? No. You can't use an expired license with a newer version of Rev, but your licensed version will run forever. Is the Valentina licence be valid only for a limited period? (I ask this in the valentina list.) Or could perhaps the latest Mac-Update interfere in any kind? I don't know about Valentina, but an OS update might interfere. It depends on what the third-party library is doing. If it is written in RevTalk only, then it is not likely to be a problem. If it is an external then it might have problems after an OS change. It feels like linking the externals and substacks doesn't work anymore correctly, but I don't know why and where to look for and how to analyse. You could add a logging handler to your standalone that writes the result of the commands that fail to a text file. That could give you some information. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Its a real start. It seems unlikely to have left out anything significant, but it obviously has quite some false positives, but when the thing is winnowed down to a couple of hundred, one can go through by hand and knock off the ones that don't apply. I wish I still had half Richmond's energy! I'll take a look today and tomorrow, but fear that by the time I get through he'll have done it over several times. The reason time goes so much faster as we get older, is that we slow down so much. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Richmond-goes-data-mining-a-k-a-shovelling-through-the-sh-tp2065617p2067108.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
I've got through about 20 entries, and have a splitting headache from using the Rev dictionary with its 4 point font. How on earth does this manage to be approved for use in the public sector in the UK? Has no-one noticed yet? So I will have to resume in a bit using either the web version or will reset the monitor resolution. There's a lot of winnowing out to do. The dictionary classifications are not consistent, see for instance the treatment of hotspot(s). Some stuff is indeed OS specific. Some stuff is non-functional and only included not to throw errors when people use Hypercard commands. So it will be a lot smaller list when its done. There is also stuff included for Linux that does not in fact work' like the printing and font stuff. All the same, it is going to throw up large functionality areas that are missing, and have been for a long time, as in the speech stuff. So its worth doing, and Richmond done good to make a start. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Richmond-goes-data-mining-a-k-a-shovelling-through-the-sh-tp2065617p2067134.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[Database] Retrieving sql statement result
Hi all, I have a question about runrev database commands. Is there a way to get the result of a sql statement that doesn't retrieve data (is not a select)? For example: In a postgresql scenario I need to execute the statement: listen foo and I need to retrieve the result. It seems that the only rev command I can use is revExecuteSql but in this way I can't get the result the sql engine gives after the statement is executed. revDataFromQuery seems to work only for retrieving data from a query, not from a statement... Any ideas? Thanks in advance Best Regards Marcello___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Directory Configuration
I get my index.html file . Or, if it is available, the index.irev file, However, if I remove these 2 pages, I get the list of directories. I did not change any preferences in the on-rev server. All the best, Paolo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining . . .
On 27/04/2010 10:07, Peter Alcibiades wrote: I've got through about 20 entries, and have a splitting headache from using the Rev dictionary with its 4 point font. Well; until somebody pulls their finger out back at HQ re fonts on Linux I suggest you use Björnke von Gierke's super BvG Docu stack as you can change the font size to suit your needs and avoid the cluster headaches: http://www.bjoernke.com/?target=bvgdocu ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Directory Configuration
Hi Sarah, ... What happens if you go to http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/index.html directly? Then I get my index.html just fine. So what could be the problem? Rick On Apr 27, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: For anyone who has an On-Rev account: What do you get when you point your Web-browser to: http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/ Are you getting a list of your directories, or something else? If you are getting a list of directories, isn't this a problem? Shouldn't the page forward to some other webpage like your index.html page? Is there a way to configure things so that it does forward to your index page? A configuration file of some sort, located where? Are you sure that directory has a valid index file in it? What happens if you go to http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/index.html directly? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Hello, for testing I created a new mainstack and tried: put the externalpackages of this stack into fld status. It returns empty in the IDE as well as in a standalone, though I have activated in the standalone settings Database and Valentina2 XML and Internet libraries. What am I doing wrong, is it a syntax error? Thank you Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Hi Tiemo, at least for the IDE the externalPackages are a property of stack home put the externalpackages of stack home will give you the list. This is done in order to make the exts available to all stacks that are open in the IDE. Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Hi Malte, Yup, that does the trick in the IDE. Any idea why the list is empty in my standalone? Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Malte Pfaff-Brill Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 2010 15:05 An: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Betreff: Re: the externalpackages returns empty, why? Hi Tiemo, at least for the IDE the externalPackages are a property of stack home put the externalpackages of stack home will give you the list. This is done in order to make the exts available to all stacks that are open in the IDE. Cheers, Malte___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Directory Configuration
Hi again, Ok, I solved the problem. It's the capital problem with On-Rev again. If you name your index, Index.html it doesn't work right. The system apparently has to have it named index.html with the small i. Thanks for the help! Rick On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi Sarah, ... What happens if you go to http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/index.html directly? Then I get my index.html just fine. So what could be the problem? Rick On Apr 27, 2010, at 12:00 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: For anyone who has an On-Rev account: What do you get when you point your Web-browser to: http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/ Are you getting a list of your directories, or something else? If you are getting a list of directories, isn't this a problem? Shouldn't the page forward to some other webpage like your index.html page? Is there a way to configure things so that it does forward to your index page? A configuration file of some sort, located where? Are you sure that directory has a valid index file in it? What happens if you go to http://(Insert Your Domain).on-rev.com/index.html directly? Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Rick Harrison You can buy my $10 music album Funny Time Machine digital CD on the iTunes Store Now! To visit the iTunes Store now to listen to samples of my CD please click on the following link. (Please note you must have iTunes installed on your computer for this link to work.) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=213668290 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing stacks without opening
Thanks. I figured out, too, that my thinking that things were being saved in stacks I'd accessed this way was because they were still loaded into memory. When I quit and reopened nothing was there. So you need to save the stack. Still I can see where this can be handy in some situations as all the normal openCard, etc scripts are not called. Marty Marty Knapp wrote: So it appears that you can set custom properties of a stack and put information into fields of stacks that are not open, from a stack that is open. I just did it by accident! That being the case, is there anything that I should be aware of when doing this? Is the referenced stack loaded into memory? Is this considered bad form? As Phil said, it can be handy. I use prefs stacks this way sometimes because they're available but out of the message path. I make sure to close the prefs stack when the main stack quits. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why?
On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Yup, that does the trick in the IDE. Any idea why the list is empty in my standalone? Check the externalPackages of stack revExternalLibrary in a standalone. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Peter Alcibiades wrote: So its worth doing, and Richmond done good to make a start. I made a list last night and will post it later today. There are some errors that the list can correct, but for the most part I think it is accurate. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Help with pref file
Saraha, Your suggestion worked! I just compile my app. I opened it and complete the pref file and then quit my app and relaunch it. The pref file inserted the name of the school in my report! Thanks! Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Apr 26, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Sarah Reichelt-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: I set up my pref file to be a substack of my app. My app is launched using a Splash screen. The user clicks on the Preference in the menu and then enters the name of the school for the report in the Prefs substack. When the Preference substack is closed, the name of the school appears throughout the report at the top of the card. Here is my problem: When I added a name of the school in the preference pane and closed it the name was correctly inserted in the report. When I quit the program and restart it the name of the school is not in the report but it still appears in the Preference substack. So the name of the school is saved in Preference substack but it is not being saved in the report? I am supposed to conduct a test of my program today in a school. Can anyone give me a quick fix for this problem? Charles, the pref file gets saved and it stores the data. The other stacks in the app do not get saved I presume, so any changes to them are only temporary. When your app starts, say in a startup handler or in a preOpenStack handler, read the settings from your prefs file and apply them again, as if someone had just entered the data into the prefs stack. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Help-with-pref-file-tp2065319p2065954.html To unsubscribe from Help with pref file, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Help-with-pref-file-tp2065319p2067788.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27/04/2010 18:17, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: So its worth doing, and Richmond done good to make a start. I made a list last night and will post it later today. There are some errors that the list can correct, but for the most part I think it is accurate. Can you tell me how you did it? I have a feeling the way I went about it was extremely and unnecessarily long-winded. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27 Apr 2010, at 17:46, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I have a feeling the way I went about it was extremely and unnecessarily long-winded. Yes. My stack loads all the docu stacks into memory, and _tries_ to unload them again. However, that fails sometimes, due to the build in docu using the stacks etc. So maybe the big resource usage you mentioned in the orignal mail, could be due to that. Also, make sure to not put all the xml into one field and then parse that. That would be very resource intensive! Instead, load one file, parse it, then replace it with the next file, etc. You could have used my library to access the values of the xml files, using something similar to (see below). Tho, depending on the way you read the xml yourself, your approach could be faster, as I am using the external to read the whole xml into customproperties (and it probably was simpler anyway, as you didn't need to learn how my stuff actually works). I'm sure you had fun Bjoernke PS is code: on mouseUp --untested repeat for each line theLine in field list of stack BvG docu send docsLibContent theLine to stack docsLib by BvG if the result true then put the result exit repeat end if if the content[unix] of stack docsLib by BvG ) = true then put theLine return after UnixCompatibles end if end repeat put unixCompatibles end mouseUp -- official ChatRev page: http://bjoernke.com?target=chatrev Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://bjoernke.com/chatrev/chatrev1.3b3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain
I have set up a new subdomain on a domain I am hosting on on-rev. I copied the files from another subdomain where I was developing the site to the subdirectory for the new subdomain. I can see all the irev pages in the on-rev client for both subdomains. The development site works fine but I get a 404 error saying it can't find the index.irev page in the site of the new subdomain.If I change the index page to a plain index.html page in the new subdomain the page will display. What could be the reason that the browser can't find the irev page? Is there another setting I need to change in addition to creating the subdomain? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: On-Rev Directory Configuration
Nice catch. This underscores an important principle I think anyone preparing files for web use should consider. Actually 3 principles: 1. don't capitalize anything. 2. don't use spaces in file names. 3. don't use special characters in file names. I'm sure some could add a few others, but these are 3 big ones. You'd be surprised how many SQL databases consider capitals in table and column names for instance. If you make a practice of never capitalizing anything, it ceases to ever be a problem again. Bob On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:13 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi again, Ok, I solved the problem. It's the capital problem with On-Rev again. If you name your index, Index.html it doesn't work right. The system apparently has to have it named index.html with the small i. Thanks for the help! Rick ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain
Martin, I think you make a change to the .htaccess file that lives in the same directory as your index.irev file. You add a line that overrides the server defaults for index files. On my runrev subdomain there is an .htaccess file in the public_html folder. If you are working out of another folder you'll have to put your .htaccess file in that folder. Let's see if we can get it going, Mike --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Martin Koob mk...@rogers.com wrote: From: Martin Koob mk...@rogers.com Subject: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:08 AM I have set up a new subdomain on a domain I am hosting on on-rev. I copied the files from another subdomain where I was developing the site to the subdirectory for the new subdomain. I can see all the irev pages in the on-rev client for both subdomains. The development site works fine but I get a 404 error saying it can't find the index.irev page in the site of the new subdomain. If I change the index page to a plain index.html page in the new subdomain the page will display. What could be the reason that the browser can't find the irev page? Is there another setting I need to change in addition to creating the subdomain? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain
Martin, I found the magic words. put this line: DirectoryIndex index.irev in your .htaccess file in the same directory as your index.irev folder --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Martin Koob mk...@rogers.com wrote: From: Martin Koob mk...@rogers.com Subject: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:08 AM I have set up a new subdomain on a domain I am hosting on on-rev. I copied the files from another subdomain where I was developing the site to the subdirectory for the new subdomain. I can see all the irev pages in the on-rev client for both subdomains. The development site works fine but I get a 404 error saying it can't find the index.irev page in the site of the new subdomain. If I change the index page to a plain index.html page in the new subdomain the page will display. What could be the reason that the browser can't find the irev page? Is there another setting I need to change in addition to creating the subdomain? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain
Michael Kann mikek...@... writes: Martin, I found the magic words. put this line: DirectoryIndex index.irev in your .htaccess file in the same directory as your index.irev folder --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Martin Koob mkoob at rogers.com wrote: Hi Michael thanks for the quick reply I looked for the .htaccess file. There is one in the public_html directory (it is blank) there is not one in the subdirectory for the subdomain. I checked the subdirectories for the other subdomain that is working and it does not have a .htaccess file. In the development site I had a .htaccess file in a subdirectory of the subdomain to protect some files in it. That got copied over with the site. Could that be interfering with the loading of the site? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New version of RunRev makes .png images all black
Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to get them to display correctly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why?
Thanks Trevor, never heard about this stack, and don't know if this is where they are supposed to be (why don't the docs tell anything about it?), but there they are! Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Trevor DeVore Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 2010 16:54 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: AW: the externalpackages returns empty, why? On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Yup, that does the trick in the IDE. Any idea why the list is empty in my standalone? Check the externalPackages of stack revExternalLibrary in a standalone. -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com Releasable Revolution Resources for Developers: http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black
And I'm noticing that the .gif are not anywhere near as nice as the smooth .png images. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:04 PM, william humphrey b...@bluewatermaritime.com wrote: Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to get them to display correctly. -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain
Martin, First, I noticed a mistake in my post. The last line should be -- in the same directory as your index.irev file (NOT FOLDER) Just some thoughts: I looked for the .htaccess file. There is one in the public_html directory (it is blank) there is not one in the subdirectory for the subdomain. - -- To test it out you could create an .htaccess file in the same folder as your index.irev file - I checked the subdirectories for the other subdomain that is working and it does not have a .htaccess file. - -- The .htaccess file could be in a higher directory. It could still have power over the subdirectories that are nested within it. - In the development site I had a .htaccess file in a subdirectory of the subdomain to protect some files in it. That got copied over with the site. Could that be interfering with the loading of the site? - -- Might be the case. If you can find where it got copied to you might try changing it, then leave it where it is. - I tested it on my server using this setup: In the public_html folder I put two files 1. .htaccess DirectoryIndex index.irev -- only line in file 2. index.irev -- contained this text HTML ?rev put the milliseconds ? /HTML 3. Make sure you transfer files with ASCII transfer mode 4. In the browser type http://fake.on-rev.com 5. You will see the milliseconds in your browser You might try this toy configuration to get a purchase on the problem. Good luck, Mike Michael Kann mikek...@... writes: Martin, I found the magic words. put this line: DirectoryIndex index.irev in your .htaccess file in the same directory as your index.irev folder --- On Tue, 4/27/10, Martin Koob mkoob at rogers.com wrote: Hi Michael thanks for the quick reply I looked for the .htaccess file. There is one in the public_html directory (it is blank) there is not one in the subdirectory for the subdomain. I checked the subdirectories for the other subdomain that is working and it does not have a .htaccess file. In the development site I had a .htaccess file in a subdirectory of the subdomain to protect some files in it. That got copied over with the site. Could that be interfering with the loading of the site? Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black
william humphrey bill at bluewatermaritime.com wrote: Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to get them to display correctly. What platform are you using? On WindowsXP PNGs in build 4.5.-dp3 display correctly. Wilhelm Sanke ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black
On 27/04/2010 20:04, william humphrey wrote: Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to get them to display correctly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution That's funny; I thought Enterprise owners who had access with the developer previews were not allowed to discuss their findings in the wild. Not that it fusses me unduly, being 'only' a Studio owner. However. I, g-e-n-e-r-a-l-l-y, stick to licensing agreements and NDAs. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27/04/2010 19:02, Björnke von Gierke wrote: On 27 Apr 2010, at 17:46, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I have a feeling the way I went about it was extremely and unnecessarily long-winded. Yes. My stack loads all the docu stacks into memory, and _tries_ to unload them again. However, that fails sometimes, due to the build in docu using the stacks etc. So maybe the big resource usage you mentioned in the orignal mail, could be due to that. I loaded each XML file individually. My long-winded referred to my code: on mouseUp put empty into fld FLIST answer folder Choose a folder to process set the defaultFolder to it put into PropName3 put the files into fld FileList wait 40 ticks put fish into PhileName put fish into fld PhileName put 1507 into KOUNT put KOUNT into fld KOUNT put 1 into XOUNT wait 40 ticks repeat until PhileName contains index add 1 to KOUNT put KOUNT into fld KOUNT put line KOUNT of fld FileList into PhileName put line KOUNT of fld FileList into fld PhileName wait 40 ticks if PhileName contains index then exit repeat else set the useUnicode to true set the RTFText of fld EXEMEL to URL (file: PhileName) put line 1 of fld EXEMEL into PropName1 repeat with KK = 1 to 13 delete the first char of PropName1 end repeat repeat put the first char of PropName1 into PropName2 if PropName2 contains then exit repeat else put PropName3 PropName2 into PropName3 end if delete the first char of PropName1 end repeat put PropName3 into line KOUNT of fld PropName if fld EXEMEL contains unix support= quote true then --do nix-- else add 1 to XOUNT put PropName3 into line XOUNT of fld FLIST --put PropName3 PhileName into line XOUNT of fld FLIST save this stack end if put into PropName3 end if end repeat - end mouseUp fairly pedestrian, nicht? not the freezing of the RunRev IDE - that was clearly something to do with file 1507 ( = 3011.xml) gumming up the works; as I don't pretend to understand XML I won't attempt any solutions to that one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
I Can't change field layers
Hi everyone, I have three problems: 1) The button and field level numbers are locked within a group. So I can't rearrange them. 2) When I click on a group it moves with my cursor until I click again. That's obviously not what I wanted. 3) When I click on Select Group it doesn't allow me to click on individual fields. I can select the fields from within the inspector, but I shouldn't have to do that. It used to be when I rebooted, these problems would go away but not this time. Any advise the group can give me is very appreciated. Since these problems are only in two stacks, could they be corrupted? Joe in Orlando Florida. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
dot POS files and Corpus Linguistics
Well, Yippee-doo; the good folks at the University of Oxford have sent me the files of the York-Toronto-Helsinki Parsed Corpus of Old English Prose (try saying that with your mouth full of cornflakes). Jolly generous considering it is normally restricted to British Higher Education Institutions (somehow the University of Plovdiv, Paisii Hilendarski doesn't fit in that category). HOWEVER; the corpus comes in .pos files whcih cheeses me off immensely; on opening them with the redoubtable TextWrangler they are heavily formatted in some odd fashion suggesting some sort of meta-tagging. The Java-based CS_2.002.74.jar, a.k.a 'CorpusSearch' doesn't run for some funny reason on ye olde G4 (have yet to try it on the Ubu-Box); but that doesn't really fuss me as ye olde academics have decided the parameters of their stuff in advance and my feet are too big for their shoes (hey; it's mixed metaphors time again). So; I am looking to build a Runrev data-miner / chewer / masticator / whatever; but, until I can work out what a .pos file can be opened with (so I can hae a keek at its formatin) the whole thing is on standby. Once I can see what a .pos file should look like in some sort of POS-file reader I can cobble together a suitably algorithmic sieve to make the file look like it should inside a text field prior to 'chewin the fat'. Google comes up with unintentionally witty results about 'point of sale' and so forth, as well as something about Arabic linguistic corpora, Chinese linguistic corpora and so forth (well, at least they are going in the right direction). Having written one of those slimy messages back, where one thanks people fulsomely and then shoves in the 'However'; I got a we cannot comment on other methods of accessing the corpus message. Well; at least I signed my name with my second name (Richmond) otherwise I would have had what the Americans call a 'Dear John' message . . . :) Any help re POS-file readers would be most welcome. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I Can't change field layers
On 27/04/2010 21:03, lunchnme...@aol.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have three problems: 1) The button and field level numbers are locked within a group. So I can't rearrange them. 2) When I click on a group it moves with my cursor until I click again. That's obviously not what I wanted. 3) When I click on Select Group it doesn't allow me to click on individual fields. I can select the fields from within the inspector, but I shouldn't have to do that. It used to be when I rebooted, these problems would go away That sounds like something to do with your operating system rather than RunRev. Personally (I know this will involve a lot of time) I would back everything up and reinstall my OS. but not this time. Any advise the group can give me is very appreciated. Since these problems are only in two stacks, could they be corrupted? Joe in Orlando Florida. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 27/04/2010 18:17, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: So its worth doing, and Richmond done good to make a start. I made a list last night and will post it later today. There are some errors that the list can correct, but for the most part I think it is accurate. I've now double-checked some of the things I wasn't sure of, and I think my list is pretty accurate now. Can you tell me how you did it? I have a feeling the way I went about it was extremely and unnecessarily long-winded. I extracted the dictionary entries by reading the custom properties from the doc clumps (the dictionary builder that ships with the MC IDE does this, so I just modified that script a bit.) Once I had a complete list of all 1600+ entries, I used BBEdit and grep to remove or extract various combinations of platform support. I first removed from the list all entries that were available on all platforms, leaving only those that had at least one platform missing. I also removed entries where the dictionary is wrong (for example, all inks are fully cross-platform now but the dictionary hasn't been updated.) I also removed all synonyms (mostly the XBrowser references) and all instances of COM: except for the first one. What I found when I was done was that the only tokens that Linux does not support fall into three basic categories: browser xcmd, quicktime-related, and things the OS itself does not support. I also found 32 Linux-only commands unique to that OS which no other platforms support. There are Linux/OS X commands that Windows does not support. There are 16 Windows-only tokens that don't apply to any other OS. And so forth. The results are here: http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt. It looks to me like linux support is well-balanced, and that every OS has a good number of platform-specific tokens that can't possibly be applied elsewhere. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27/04/2010 21:10, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 27/04/2010 18:17, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: So its worth doing, and Richmond done good to make a start. I made a list last night and will post it later today. There are some errors that the list can correct, but for the most part I think it is accurate. I've now double-checked some of the things I wasn't sure of, and I think my list is pretty accurate now. Can you tell me how you did it? I have a feeling the way I went about it was extremely and unnecessarily long-winded. I extracted the dictionary entries by reading the custom properties from the doc clumps (the dictionary builder that ships with the MC IDE does this, so I just modified that script a bit.) Once I had a complete list of all 1600+ entries, I used BBEdit and grep to remove or extract various combinations of platform support. I first removed from the list all entries that were available on all platforms, leaving only those that had at least one platform missing. I also removed entries where the dictionary is wrong (for example, all inks are fully cross-platform now but the dictionary hasn't been updated.) I also removed all synonyms (mostly the XBrowser references) and all instances of COM: except for the first one. What I found when I was done was that the only tokens that Linux does not support fall into three basic categories: browser xcmd, quicktime-related, and things the OS itself does not support. I also found 32 Linux-only commands unique to that OS which no other platforms support. There are Linux/OS X commands that Windows does not support. There are 16 Windows-only tokens that don't apply to any other OS. And so forth. The results are here: http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt. It looks to me like linux support is well-balanced, and that every OS has a good number of platform-specific tokens that can't possibly be applied elsewhere. Much, much better than my effort: Thank you very much. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
J. Landman Gay wrote: What I found when I was done was that the only tokens that Linux does not support fall into three basic categories: browser xcmd, quicktime-related, and things the OS itself does not support. I should have added speech support to that too. So, four categories. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27/04/2010 21:33, J. Landman Gay wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: What I found when I was done was that the only tokens that Linux does not support fall into three basic categories: browser xcmd, quicktime-related, and things the OS itself does not support. I should have added speech support to that too. So, four categories. What this does not include is the fairly significant font detection and printing problems that are, by now, well-documented. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dot POS files and Corpus Linguistics
Richmond, it appears that .pos files are LOTUS NOTES, among many others http://file-extension.net/seeker/file_extension_pos http://filext.com/file-extension/POS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Notes http://www.computerfileextensions.com/file-extensions.php/POS FILE FORMAT: http://www.x-ways.net/winhex/POS_Format_2_0.html On 27 April 2010 11:04, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.comwrote: Well, Yippee-doo; the good folks at the University of Oxford have sent me the files of the York-Toronto-Helsinki Parsed Corpus of Old English Prose (try saying that with your mouth full of cornflakes). Jolly generous considering it is normally restricted to British Higher Education Institutions (somehow the University of Plovdiv, Paisii Hilendarski doesn't fit in that category). HOWEVER; the corpus comes in .pos files whcih cheeses me off immensely; on opening them with the redoubtable TextWrangler they are heavily formatted in some odd fashion suggesting some sort of meta-tagging. The Java-based CS_2.002.74.jar, a.k.a 'CorpusSearch' doesn't run for some funny reason on ye olde G4 (have yet to try it on the Ubu-Box); but that doesn't really fuss me as ye olde academics have decided the parameters of their stuff in advance and my feet are too big for their shoes (hey; it's mixed metaphors time again). So; I am looking to build a Runrev data-miner / chewer / masticator / whatever; but, until I can work out what a .pos file can be opened with (so I can hae a keek at its formatin) the whole thing is on standby. Once I can see what a .pos file should look like in some sort of POS-file reader I can cobble together a suitably algorithmic sieve to make the file look like it should inside a text field prior to 'chewin the fat'. Google comes up with unintentionally witty results about 'point of sale' and so forth, as well as something about Arabic linguistic corpora, Chinese linguistic corpora and so forth (well, at least they are going in the right direction). Having written one of those slimy messages back, where one thanks people fulsomely and then shoves in the 'However'; I got a we cannot comment on other methods of accessing the corpus message. Well; at least I signed my name with my second name (Richmond) otherwise I would have had what the Americans call a 'Dear John' message . . . :) Any help re POS-file readers would be most welcome. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- - Stephen Barncard Back home in SF ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to insert text at cursor position?
The problem was here was indeed the hilite. Putting put hello world into the selection or put hello world after the selection in a button works. Putting one of the above into a popup button doen't work. So, is there a way to somehow store the selection before it get lost? Can i insert text into a field from a popup button? Regards, Claus. Am 26.04.10 21:59, schrieb J. Landman Gay: Both work, I'm not sure why the first one didn't for the OP. It works here. Perhaps his button had auto-hilite set to true, which steals the selection. Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Actually, I find this very disturbing, since either of these expressions/commands would work in HyperCard; consequently, being very simple as they are, they should both work in Rev. I can understand complex deviations from HyperTalk, but not the basic, simple ones. What works in HyperTalk should work in RevTalk. Just my HO, but one of the reasons I've found Rev to be frustrating. Joe Wilkins On Apr 26, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Claus Dreischer wrote: doh ... i tried with put hello world into the selection which failed. Thanks Mark for the prompt response! Am 26.04.10 20:54, schrieb Mark Schonewille: Claus, put hello world after the selection -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 27/04/2010 21:33, J. Landman Gay wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: What I found when I was done was that the only tokens that Linux does not support fall into three basic categories: browser xcmd, quicktime-related, and things the OS itself does not support. I should have added speech support to that too. So, four categories. What this does not include is the fairly significant font detection and printing problems that are, by now, well-documented. You were asking for supported tokens in the language, so that's what the list includes. I just noticed a couple of entries that are now fully cross-platform, so I removed them and updated the text file a moment ago. http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt BTW, while checking with one of the engineers this morning about cross-platform inks, I asked about the font issue. He said it doesn't occur on his machine (nor does it on my Ubuntu installation) so he's not sure what's going on with that. He mentioned that users should ensure they have the right fonts installed, but I think you've already done that. The last time I worked with someone who had the problem it turned out to be their font manager, but I don't know enough about it to expand on that. He updated his copy and the problem went away. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Jacque, what about record sound and record video? They're marked in my dictionary as being Mac +Windows only. I haven't tried to use either one. Peter -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Richmond-goes-data-mining-a-k-a-shovelling-through-the-sh-tp2065617p2068117.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cannot run .exec file of project
I am using Rev Enterprise 4.0.0 (built 950). After compiling my project, I found that my app ran fine on OS X (10.6.2) but it will not run on Windows XP using Parallels Version Build 5.0.9344. The splash screen appears but the application does not launch and an error message dialog that is set using the error reporting in Standalone Applications setting appears: Executing at 1:48:22 PM on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 Type: Chunk: can't find stack Object: card 'card id 1002' of stack 'C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Desktop/S504.exe' Line: show stack 'Support 504 Assist' Line Num: 48 Hint: continue And I had to use Control-Alt-Delete to stop the splash from continuing to try to find the Support 504 Assist stack. The above script refers to my script in the splash stack below which is supposed to launch my app: on openStack send continue to me in 2 seconds end openStack on continue close stack AppStart go stack Support 504 Assist show stack Support 504 Assist end continue The funny thing is that this same script work about a year ago when I created another app. When I tested my old app, I got the same error message except with only the name of the app being different! In both instances, I tried to launch both apps from the desktop. I check my standalone application settings to see if the stack Support 504 Assist was accidentally left out but it is included in the stack files. Has anyone ran into this problem? Or is this script needs to be changed? -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-run-exec-file-of-project-tp2068120p2068120.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Peter Alcibiades wrote: Jacque, what about record sound and record video? They're marked in my dictionary as being Mac +Windows only. I haven't tried to use either one. Oh right, I forgot those too. Basically the browser, speech, and recording features are all implemented as externals. Ditto dynamic font loading. In Mac and Windows there are system-wide resources that can be called on to implement these things. If Linux doesn't provide that then it would likely be a lot of work to write each of them from scratch. It's my guess that's the reason they aren't available on that OS. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
On 27/04/2010 22:15, charles61 wrote: I am using Rev Enterprise 4.0.0 (built 950). After compiling my project, I found that my app ran fine on OS X (10.6.2) but it will not run on Windows XP using Parallels Version Build 5.0.9344. The splash screen appears but the application does not launch and an error message dialog that is set using the error reporting in Standalone Applications setting appears: Executing at 1:48:22 PM on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 Type: Chunk: can't find stack Object: card 'card id 1002' of stack 'C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Desktop/S504.exe' Line: show stack 'Support 504 Assist' Line Num: 48 Hint: continue And I had to use Control-Alt-Delete to stop the splash from continuing to try to find the Support 504 Assist stack. The above script refers to my script in the splash stack below which is supposed to launch my app: on openStack send continue to me in 2 seconds end openStack on continue close stack AppStart go stack Support 504 Assist show stack Support 504 Assist end continue The funny thing is that this same script work about a year ago when I created another app. When I tested my old app, I got the same error message except with only the name of the app being different! In both instances, I tried to launch both apps from the desktop. I check my standalone application settings to see if the stack Support 504 Assist was accidentally left out but it is included in the stack files. Has anyone ran into this problem? Or is this script needs to be changed? Knowing that RunRev 4.0 for Windows will not run under WINE in Linux makes me think that Windows executables made by the RunRev standalone builder are probably not very haooy with any sort of emulated environment. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Knowing that RunRev 4.0 for Windows will not run under WINE in Linux makes me think that Windows executables made by the RunRev standalone builder are probably not very haooy with any sort of emulated environment. I run, test, and work with Windows executables in emulation all the time without issue. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to insert text at cursor position?
Claus Dreischer wrote: The problem was here was indeed the hilite. Putting put hello world into the selection or put hello world after the selection in a button works. Putting one of the above into a popup button doen't work. So, is there a way to somehow store the selection before it get lost? Can i insert text into a field from a popup button? You have a couple of choices. The easiest is to just turn off auto-hilite and substitute your own handlers. On mousedown, hilite the button, on mouseUp and mouseRelease, unhilite it. The second way is to use a local script variable to store the selectedchunk. When the button is released, reselect the stored chunk: local sStoredChunk on mouseDown put the selectedchunk into sStoredChunk end mouseDown on mouseUp select sStoredChunk end mouseUp on mouseRelease select sStoredChunk end mouseRelease -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining . . .
On 27/04/2010 22:28, J. Landman Gay wrote: Peter Alcibiades wrote: Jacque, what about record sound and record video? They're marked in my dictionary as being Mac +Windows only. I haven't tried to use either one. Well, I wouldn't bother because if they are marked 'Mac +Windows only' they are probably not going to do you much good under Linux. Mac and Windows are like Communist states; centrally planned and controlled (and should we forget that we might like to recall Mr Jobs' recent antics with Adobe) with all that entails; a certain even-ness of form and quality, but an inability to do some individual, regional stuff. Linux is rather like Germany in the early nineteenth century; a lot of city-states with a wide variety of political systems but sharing a fairly closely related dialects. Great for growing your own, private political experimentation; but when you export your bananas to the next-door statelet don't be entirely surprised if they fall foul of decree Number 666 on crooked bananas that only holds sway in that statelet. Oh right, I forgot those too. Basically the browser, speech, and recording features are all implemented as externals. Ditto dynamic font loading. In Mac and Windows there are system-wide resources that can be called on to implement these things. If Linux doesn't provide that then it would likely be a lot of work to write each of them from scratch. It's my guess that's the reason they aren't available on that OS. So; it would probably better in future, to prevent these temper tantrums, general misunderstandings, and so forth if anything that is implemented as an external was marked as so, so that folk who ran RunRev on a different platform to that on which a certain external ran would be aware that it was an external and not what we might terms a core feature of the IDE. 'Core Features' should be defined as those capabilities that functioned 100% on all the OSes for which RunRev is currently available (obviously, in the light of so many flavours of Linux there would have to be some sort of rider referring to the flavours the Linux version was guaranteed for. If this was sorted out developers would understand what was really meant by cross-platform and, should RunRev not live up to their expectations / requirements shop elsewhere. Similarly, if developers wished to develop for a subset of the platforms for which RunRev is offered they could check capabilities against a (three-column) list to see which externals were available where. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining . . .
Richmond Mathewson wrote: So; it would probably better in future, to prevent these temper tantrums, general misunderstandings, and so forth if anything that is implemented as an external was marked as so, so that folk who ran RunRev on a different platform to that on which a certain external ran would be aware that it was an external and not what we might terms a core feature of the IDE. It might help. It's clear if you open the Externals folder in any of the Runtime/Resources folders, but not everyone will know to look at that. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
On 27/04/2010 22:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: Knowing that RunRev 4.0 for Windows will not run under WINE in Linux makes me think that Windows executables made by the RunRev standalone builder are probably not very haooy with any sort of emulated environment. I run, test, and work with Windows executables in emulation all the time without issue. Wow I rattled that one off fast; hitting the 'O' key twice instead of the 'P' . . . :) Here we go again: all sorts of unknowns are coming to the surface re RunRev: 1. RunRev IDE for Windows does not run under WINE (Woops; before I get all domatic about the inevitable number 2 I'd better see if I can get a Windows standalone to function in WINE; turning on the Ubu-Box and here we go . . . ) 2. WOW! I got a (albeit crude, basic stack) Windows exe standalone, built on Ubuntu 10.04 beta something to run under WINE. Although all the colours were inverted. 3. Now somebody with some jazzier computers than mine had better try the same tests with VMware, CrossOver, CrossDresser and all the rest. [Trick Question; which of those last 3 methods of emulation is not an emulator?] I am beginning to think that RunRev's REAL shortcoming is not that it cannot do this and that on some OS or another, but that it is suffering from serious UNDER-DOCUMENTATION. Adequate Documentation will require a whole lot of work and a whole lot of testing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I Can't change field layers
In a message dated 4/27/10 3:32:22 PM, richmondmathew...@gmail.com writes: That sounds like something to do with your operating system rather than RunRev. Personally (I know this will involve a lot of time) I would back everything up and reinstall my OS. Thanks for trying. I'm hoping it doesn't come to this though. I fixed some of it. There is a problem in the resumeSteck handler. When I remarked that out some of the problem went away. I'll have to look into that. Joe in Orlando ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
J. Landman Gay wrote: You were asking for supported tokens in the language, so that's what the list includes. I just noticed a couple of entries that are now fully cross-platform, so I removed them and updated the text file a moment ago. http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt I see RevBrowser calls there, but where's the RevZip stuff on that list? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining . . .
On 27/04/2010 23:02, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: So; it would probably better in future, to prevent these temper tantrums, general misunderstandings, and so forth if anything that is implemented as an external was marked as so, so that folk who ran RunRev on a different platform to that on which a certain external ran would be aware that it was an external and not what we might terms a core feature of the IDE. It might help. It's clear if you open the Externals folder in any of the Runtime/Resources folders, but not everyone will know to look at that. Well I didn't! As the Documentation never gives the impression that there is anything qualitatively different between what is implemented in the 'core features' and as externals, and does not indicate what is 'core' and what is not; I don't suppose it has occurred to many people to go and look. My Externals folder (Mac G4) contains these: Browser,revbrowser.bundle Database,revdb.bundle Font Support,revfont.bundle Speech,revspeech.bundle XML,revxml.bundle Video Grabber,revvideograbber.bundle Revolution Zip,revzip.bundle I cannot see the sound-recording stuff there; so how am I to know, as you claim, that it is implemented as an external? My headless XP box is playing silly bu**ers at the moment (i.e. it will not connect with the Mac - have to join it up with a VDU and a keyboard and muck about). My Externals folder (Ubu-Box) contains these: revdb.so revxml.so revzip.so Now that tells me that the Linux version does not sport the same font-handling capabilities as the Mac one; but what capabilities? The ability to embed fonts/ dynamic font-loading? the name 'revfont.bundle' doesn't strike me as particularly transparent. So, things are not that much clearer, and while Thee, Me and many other people on the Use-List may enjoy the hunt to find out the cans and the cannots, in the long run it might be better if things were explictly stated where everybody can see them. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I Can't change field layers
On 27/04/2010 23:09, lunchnme...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/27/10 3:32:22 PM, richmondmathew...@gmail.com writes: That sounds like something to do with your operating system rather than RunRev. Personally (I know this will involve a lot of time) I would back everything up and reinstall my OS. Thanks for trying. I'm hoping it doesn't come to this though. I fixed some of it. There is a problem in the resumeSteck handler. When I remarked that out some of the problem went away. I'll have to look into that. Presumably by resumeSteck you mean resumeSteak; as Steve Jobs is a vegan I know that that one won't run on Mac . . . :) Unless of course you are trying to 'fork' the code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27/04/2010 23:18, Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: You were asking for supported tokens in the language, so that's what the list includes. I just noticed a couple of entries that are now fully cross-platform, so I removed them and updated the text file a moment ago. http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt I see RevBrowser calls there, but where's the RevZip stuff on that list? As I noted just now; I found a RevZip external lolling around in my Externals folder on my Ubuntu machine. However I have never used RevZip anywhere so maybe its another thing that is slightly misleading. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
Richmond, Thanks for you comment! It did run under previous versions of Parallel last year. And I am actually running on XP. This latest version of Parallels is supposed to be much improved. So the problem is my script, Rev. 4.0, or Parallels. I don't have a windows computer to try it on but I may be able to try on one in a few days. Charles Szasz csz...@mac.com On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Richmond Mathewson-2 [via Runtime Revolution] wrote: On 27/04/2010 22:15, charles61 wrote: I am using Rev Enterprise 4.0.0 (built 950). After compiling my project, I found that my app ran fine on OS X (10.6.2) but it will not run on Windows XP using Parallels Version Build 5.0.9344. The splash screen appears but the application does not launch and an error message dialog that is set using the error reporting in Standalone Applications setting appears: Executing at 1:48:22 PM on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 Type: Chunk: can't find stack Object: card 'card id 1002' of stack 'C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Desktop/S504.exe' Line: show stack 'Support 504 Assist' Line Num: 48 Hint: continue And I had to use Control-Alt-Delete to stop the splash from continuing to try to find the Support 504 Assist stack. The above script refers to my script in the splash stack below which is supposed to launch my app: on openStack send continue to me in 2 seconds end openStack on continue close stack AppStart go stack Support 504 Assist show stack Support 504 Assist end continue The funny thing is that this same script work about a year ago when I created another app. When I tested my old app, I got the same error message except with only the name of the app being different! In both instances, I tried to launch both apps from the desktop. I check my standalone application settings to see if the stack Support 504 Assist was accidentally left out but it is included in the stack files. Has anyone ran into this problem? Or is this script needs to be changed? Knowing that RunRev 4.0 for Windows will not run under WINE in Linux makes me think that Windows executables made by the RunRev standalone builder are probably not very haooy with any sort of emulated environment. ___ use-revolution mailing list [hidden email] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution View message @ http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-run-exec-file-of-project-tp2068120p2068148.html To unsubscribe from Cannot run .exec file of project, click here. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-run-exec-file-of-project-tp2068120p2068232.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: You were asking for supported tokens in the language, so that's what the list includes. I just noticed a couple of entries that are now fully cross-platform, so I removed them and updated the text file a moment ago. http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt I see RevBrowser calls there, but where's the RevZip stuff on that list? The list does not include any tokens that are fully cross platform. RevZip is, so it isn't in there (well, it doesn't actually run on OS 9 I don't think, so technically maybe it should be.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I Can't change field layers
lunchnme...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/27/10 3:32:22 PM, richmondmathew...@gmail.com writes: That sounds like something to do with your operating system rather than RunRev. Personally (I know this will involve a lot of time) I would back everything up and reinstall my OS. Thanks for trying. I'm hoping it doesn't come to this though. I fixed some of it. There is a problem in the resumeSteck handler. When I remarked that out some of the problem went away. I'll have to look into that. I think reinstalling the OS is not only a lot of work, but it won't help. My advice is: don't do it. :) There's a glitch in groups which I've bug-reported, where the app browser does not show the group controls while you are in group-edit mode. You can work around it. Make sure that the Select Grouped icon is bolded on the toolbar. Edit the group, click on the object to relayer, and reset its number in its property inspector. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
On 27/04/2010 23:50, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: J. Landman Gay wrote: You were asking for supported tokens in the language, so that's what the list includes. I just noticed a couple of entries that are now fully cross-platform, so I removed them and updated the text file a moment ago. http://jacque.on-rev.com/codebits/tokens.txt I see RevBrowser calls there, but where's the RevZip stuff on that list? The list does not include any tokens that are fully cross platform. RevZip is, so it isn't in there (well, it doesn't actually run on OS 9 I don't think, so technically maybe it should be.) Well, as there isn't any Mac OS 9 RunRev anymore that shouldn't be a source of worry. Or, should it? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Composite objects (was:How to insert text at cursor position?)
Jacques. This is an aspect of Rev that likely confuses novices. Like me. The comboBox is really a composite object consisting of a field and other controls. So when you have a selection in it, asking for the selectedChunk, say, gives you a field reference you might never have known even existed. on mouseUp answer the selectedChunk --when the selection is in a comboBox end mouseUp Don't get me started on what comprises a tabbed menu, never mind a dataGrid. The point is that researching what tools might be available to gather the properties or object references you think you might need are sort of buried. One might find their thinking restricted to buttons, and miss out. Craig Newman ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dot POS files and Corpus Linguistics
On 27/04/2010 22:03, stephen barncard wrote: Richmond, it appears that .pos files are LOTUS NOTES, among many others http://file-extension.net/seeker/file_extension_pos http://filext.com/file-extension/POS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Notes http://www.computerfileextensions.com/file-extensions.php/POS FILE FORMAT: http://www.x-ways.net/winhex/POS_Format_2_0.html Thank you very much for your suggestion. However, I got led up that garden path and spent some time mucking around with Lotus notes. I then found out that in the case of corpus files POS means 'parts of speech'. This is typical academia delighting in obscurantism. Now for more 'fun': Also bundled in the corpus are .psd files which, wait for it, are NOT Adobe Photoshop files. PSD: Probably Something Different ??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Sockets
Hi, could any help me out with a full socket session ? Please! Thanks, Hershel ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: dot POS files and Corpus Linguistics
I think we can all agree RunRev is the best dev environment going but suggesting dot.net is a POS may be going a little too far On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/04/2010 22:03, stephen barncard wrote: Richmond, it appears that .pos files are LOTUS NOTES, among many others http://file-extension.net/seeker/file_extension_pos http://filext.com/file-extension/POS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Notes http://www.computerfileextensions.com/file-extensions.php/POS FILE FORMAT: http://www.x-ways.net/winhex/POS_Format_2_0.html Thank you very much for your suggestion. However, I got led up that garden path and spent some time mucking around with Lotus notes. I then found out that in the case of corpus files POS means 'parts of speech'. This is typical academia delighting in obscurantism. Now for more 'fun': Also bundled in the corpus are .psd files which, wait for it, are NOT Adobe Photoshop files. PSD: Probably Something Different ??? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Richmond goes data-mining (a.k.a. shovelling through the sh..)
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well, as there isn't any Mac OS 9 RunRev anymore that shouldn't be a source of worry. Or, should it? Not in my book. I haven't had anyone ask for an OS 9 app in years and years. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
I think in this instance you might want to define 'emulation'... Cheers, Luis. Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 27/04/2010 22:42, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richmond Mathewson wrote: 3. Now somebody with some jazzier computers than mine had better try the same tests with VMware, CrossOver, CrossDresser and all the rest. [Trick Question; which of those last 3 methods of emulation is not an emulator?] I am beginning to think that RunRev's REAL shortcoming is not that it cannot do this and that on some OS or another, but that it is suffering from serious UNDER-DOCUMENTATION. Adequate Documentation will require a whole lot of work and a whole lot of testing. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
I'd like advice in two areas . 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative weights. But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over the older Dual Core. So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for Mac ? 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM later. Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
I'd like advice in two areas . 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative weights. But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over the older Dual Core. So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for Mac ? As I understand it, the new Intel i5 is not that much faster than the old Dual Core, but the new graphics architecture makes the new MacBooks way faster than the old models, even if this is not obvious from the basic CPU speed. 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM later. Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Just get the biggest hard drive you can. My kids use BootCamp because they want to be able to play all the modern games. I use Sun's Virtual Box which is free, but doesn't have the performance of BootCamp. But I can switch to it without rebooting and it runs Rev fine. Parallels ( I think Fusion but I'm not sure) has the ability to run rom your BootCamp partition, so you can have both systems and just choose the one that meets your needs at the time. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
Hi Alex, This might help you. http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Triple_Boot_via_BootCamp -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer We have updated TwistAWord. Download TwistAWord 1.1 at http://www.twistaword.net Op 28 apr 2010, om 00:46 heeft Alex Tweedly het volgende geschreven: I'd like advice in two areas . 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative weights. But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over the older Dual Core. So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for Mac ? 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM later. Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
I am using Rev Enterprise 4.0.0 (built 950). After compiling my project, I found that my app ran fine on OS X (10.6.2) but it will not run on Windows XP using Parallels Version Build 5.0.9344. The splash screen appears but the application does not launch and an error message dialog that is set using the error reporting in Standalone Applications setting appears: Executing at 1:48:22 PM on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 Type: Chunk: can't find stack Object: card 'card id 1002' of stack 'C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Desktop/S504.exe' Line: show stack 'Support 504 Assist' Line Num: 48 Hint: continue Are you sure the missing stack is part of the exe? Is is it a separate sub-stack, in which case, you need to make sure it is kept with the exe if you move it. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sockets
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Hershel Fisch hersh...@syp2u4c.com wrote: Hi, could any help me out with a full socket session ? Please! Check out either of my email libraries: http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/POP_library_demo.rev http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/SMTP_library_demo.rev They both use sockets to communicate to the relevant servers. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
Alex This is a little off target from the question you actually asked, but I wanted to share my experience going from a 15 in MBP to a 13 in MBA. The biggest impediment I found to getting work done efficiently on the MBA was not the lack of speed. It was the fact that the 13 inch screen seriously limited the number of apps I could have running side- by-side. This then got in the way of such basic operations as copying text from a Word document into a text field in an application I was building in Rev or having a PDF of the Rev manual open at the same time as I was using Rev. I eventually decided to go back to using a 15 inch MBP pretty much exclusively for the screen size. Of course, YMMV. Marian On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: I'd like advice in two areas . 1. Should I buy the 13-inch or the 15-inch ? I can compare the screen sizes, and the resolution and even the relative weights. But I don't have a realistic idea of how much faster the Intel i5 is over the older Dual Core. So any advice about performance, or pointers to reliable benchmark sites for Mac ? 2. I plan to dual-boot or triple-boot OSX, Win 7 and Linux (some kind). Probably just using Bootcamp, but I might want to use VmWare or other VM later. Any advice on setting the machine up to make this easy ? Thanks -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run .exec file of project
Thanks Sarah for your suggestion! Prior to just reading your suggestion, I discovered that the problem is related to dragging the exec. file to the XP desktop without the other stack. So your are right! When I drag the whole window folder to the desktop, everything works fine. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Cannot-run-exec-file-of-project-tp2068120p2068406.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Sockets
HI, http://docs.runrev.com/Command/open-socket http://docs.runrev.com/Command/write-to-socket http://docs.runrev.com/Command/read-from-socket http://docs.runrev.com/Command/close-socket for what purpose you need socket session? Regards, SHANI -Original Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Reichelt Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:59 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Sockets On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Hershel Fisch hersh...@syp2u4c.com wrote: Hi, could any help me out with a full socket session ? Please! Check out either of my email libraries: http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/POP_library_demo.rev http://www.troz.net/rev/stacks/SMTP_library_demo.rev They both use sockets to communicate to the relevant servers. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black
Thanks for the heads up Richmond. I don't remember signing any NDA though. I'm running on Mac OS and have just converted the png's to jpg's which work with the same resolution but without the all black effect which was useless. Pain to convert everything to jpg's though. On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Richmond Mathewson richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 27/04/2010 20:04, william humphrey wrote: Has anyone using new RunRev build 4.5.0 dp 3 noticed that .png images display all black now? I have to go through and convert every one to gif to get them to display correctly. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution That's funny; I thought Enterprise owners who had access with the developer previews were not allowed to discuss their findings in the wild. Not that it fusses me unduly, being 'only' a Studio owner. However. I, g-e-n-e-r-a-l-l-y, stick to licensing agreements and NDAs. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.bluewatermaritime.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: MacBookPro advice needed.
My advice is smaller is better. I have an LCD screen at home and at work along with full keyboard and mouse and other peripherals at these two major use locations. So in effect, I have a dual screen setup at home and at the office. One large LCD and a smaller laptop LCD. When I travel I obviously only have the small laptop LCD but because the laptop is small, I tend to take it lots of places because it doesn't weight much and it is easy to protect. Small screen / small laptop works quite well for me with the LCD monitors at home and work. Kee Nethery___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
User Extensions/Externals
I am trying to use Shao Sean's ssMacWindows, following his instructions in RevUp Issue 79. Wasn't sure If I should place the ssMacWindows162 folder into ~/Documents/My Revolution Studio/Externals/, or unpack it there, so tried both. The first example is to create a field with the following script to turn on the black dot updated indicator: on keyUp setWindowModified the windowID of this stack, 1 end As soon as I type in the field I get: execution error at line 2 (Handler: can't find handler) near setWindowModified, char 1 setWindowModified looks like a Mac parameter (?). What am I missing? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: browser can't find .irev files on new on-rev subdomain
Hi Michael I tried putting the .htaccess file in the subdomain's document root and putting it in the public_html directory but that did not help. I tried just putting a basic html page in the subdomain's document root as index.html and that still generates the 404 error. if I take out the index.irev and index.html pages I will see a listing of the files in the document root. I am not sure what I did wrong. The process I used to create the subdomain was: 1. I used cPanel to create the subdomain for a hosted domain 2. I used the file manage from cPanel to copy the files from a document root where I was working on the site to the new document root. 3. I updated a config.irev file to ensure all the information was correct to reflect the new path. Is there something else I need to do to set up a subdomain. Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: User Extensions/Externals
Graham Heather Harrison wrote: I am trying to use Shao Sean's ssMacWindows, following his instructions in RevUp Issue 79. Wasn't sure If I should place the ssMacWindows162 folder into ~/Documents/My Revolution Studio/Externals/, or unpack it there, so tried both. The first example is to create a field with the following script to turn on the black dot updated indicator: on keyUp setWindowModified the windowID of this stack, 1 end As soon as I type in the field I get: execution error at line 2 (Handler: can't find handler) near setWindowModified, char 1 setWindowModified looks like a Mac parameter (?). What am I missing? Rev can't find the external. The handler it's missing is one of the calls in the external library. Externals are a little bit advanced. They aren't hard exactly but I'm not sure I'd learn Rev with them. This may be something you want to wait a while to tackle. On the other hand, if you're game, there are two lessons on the web site that cover how to set up and work with a stack using externals: http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/buckets/784/tags?tag=externals -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New version of RunRev makes .png images all black
william humphrey wrote: Thanks for the heads up Richmond. I don't remember signing any NDA though. I'm running on Mac OS and have just converted the png's to jpg's which work with the same resolution but without the all black effect which was useless. Pain to convert everything to jpg's though. If you're on the Improve list, the intro email you received explains the NDA status of anything posted to that list. I think most people already know that the next version is in progress, but technically we should discuss it over there. That said, it's pre-release software and those who use it can expect some bugs. The reason to release it to a limited audience is so that the bugs can be reported and fixed before the version goes final. Images shouldn't turn black (that's an alpha glitch which could be due either to Rev or to the format of your image) so I hope you'll report it. That way the team is alerted and can check it. They don't recommend using pre-release builds for any real work. Stick with the release version for that stuff. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
User Extensions/Externals
Jacque wrote: Rev can't find the external. The handler it's missing is one of the calls in the external library. So since I put it where instructed, and where rev Preferences says to look, why is it missing? Externals are a little bit advanced. They aren't hard exactly but I'm not sure I'd learn Rev with them. This may be something you want to wait a while to tackle. I'm not looking to write externals at the moment. This one obviously provides some solutions to rev's shortcomings on Mac OS, so I would like to see what is handled. That way I can save myself a lot of frustration (f'ing and blinding about why doesn't that work) and toil (reinventing perfectly good wheels). On the other hand, if you're game, there are two lessons on the web site that cover how to set up and work with a stack using externals. Does this mean that using an external is not just a case of putting it in the appropriate library and Voila!? In that case I will have to look at these lessons… now.___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT'ish: Logs on on-rev.com
Hi, I've got an account on on-rev.com and am trying to wrap my head around access logs. What's showing up in the raw logs does not seem to match what the statistic programs are showing. The cpanel documents aren't too helpful as they (typical in this industry) assume more knowledge than a newbie has... Can anyone point me to an online primer about access logs, exp. if it relates to the same system on-rev.com uses? Many thanks, Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I Can't change field layers
Richmond- Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:22:04 PM, you wrote: Presumably by resumeSteck you mean resumeSteak; as Steve Jobs is a vegan I know that that one won't run on Mac . . . :) Unless of course you are trying to 'fork' the code. Ouch... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: User Extensions/Externals
From: Graham Heather Harrison Does this mean that using an external is not just a case of putting it in the appropriate library and Voila!? In that case I will have to look at these lessons… I don't know what the instructions you followed said, but you need to bind the external to your app by setting the externals property of a stack to the path to the DLL or bundle. It's possible to set the property of the main stack manually, and then save the app; when you restart the app, it will load the external. However, for cross-platform apps the external name will be different (foo.dll versus foo.bundle), so you have to do something a bit uglier, typically with some code in the preOpenStack handler of your main stack: if ExternalWrapper is not among the lines of the stacksInUse then set the name of the templateStack to ExternalWrapper if the platform is Win32 then set the externals of the templateStack to externals/foo.dll else set the externals of the templateStack to externals/foo.bundle end if set the visible of the templateStack to false create stack start using stack ExternalWrapper end if This causes the name to be determined at runtime, but by then the main stack is already loaded so you have to attach the external to a separate dummy stack. You should also delete the dummy stack in your main stack's closeStack handler. At least this is how it's done in 3.5. I don't have 4.0. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paulmailto:pdero...@ix.netcom.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: User Extensions/Externals
Graham Heather Harrison wrote: Jacque wrote: Rev can't find the external. The handler it's missing is one of the calls in the external library. So since I put it where instructed, and where rev Preferences says to look, why is it missing? You need to tell the stack to use it. Or, alternately, you need to set up the IDE to automatically use it. You can do the first by setting the externals property of the stack (the first lesson), you can do the second by setting up the IDE folder and loading structures (the second lesson.) Unless you plan to use this external in every stack, setting up for a single stack is good enough. Externals are a little bit advanced. They aren't hard exactly but I'm not sure I'd learn Rev with them. This may be something you want to wait a while to tackle. I'm not looking to write externals at the moment. This one obviously provides some solutions to rev's shortcomings on Mac OS, so I would like to see what is handled. That way I can save myself a lot of frustration (f'ing and blinding about why doesn't that work) and toil (reinventing perfectly good wheels). I didn't mean writing one, just using them. Externals are custom extensions to the language. When you're just starting out with Rev I figured using the native stuff first would be the best way to wrap your head around how things work in general before jumping into extra additions. But they aren't *that* hard, so if you want it, go for it. On the other hand, if you're game, there are two lessons on the web site that cover how to set up and work with a stack using externals. Does this mean that using an external is not just a case of putting it in the appropriate library and Voila!? In that case I will have to look at these lessons… Right, they aren't automatic, they need to be specified. If you set the externals property of your stack using the correct file path to the external, it will load the next time the stack loads. If you want it available all the time for all stacks, then Trevor's lesson explains in good detail what you need to do to make it a part of the IDE. I don't generally go that far, since the very few externals I use are almost always exclusive to a particular stack. I usually put the external in the same working folder with my stack and point the stack's externals property to a relative file path. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I Can't change field layers
Joe, Rev actually ships with a wonderful tool for relayering (especially within groups) that nobody seems to know about. Check out Rev Navigator in the Plugins menu in the Development menu. You can try it for free but, if you use it as often as I do, you'll find it is a great investment. Paul Looney On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:03 AM, lunchnme...@aol.com wrote: Hi everyone, I have three problems: 1) The button and field level numbers are locked within a group. So I can't rearrange them. 2) When I click on a group it moves with my cursor until I click again. That's obviously not what I wanted. 3) When I click on Select Group it doesn't allow me to click on individual fields. I can select the fields from within the inspector, but I shouldn't have to do that. It used to be when I rebooted, these problems would go away but not this time. Any advise the group can give me is very appreciated. Since these problems are only in two stacks, could they be corrupted? Joe in Orlando Florida. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
